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Topic: Isis, Osiris and Soulmates
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted June 30, 2007 11:16 AM
Izo,I`m really glad you have come back. I missed your posts as I still miss IQ`s. Thank your for your nice words. Yes, I try to sound balanced and structured, because the truth is, if I didn`t strive for structure, I would completely get lost in my emotional chaos. lol And yes, there are two actors. And the second is Joaquin Phoenix. LOL I will tell you the first one in an email, if I find your email addy. But I think I have talked so much here on it, that it´s no longer a mystery. Diandra,
oh, so then I have to expand this to karma and valentine, right? And yes, I agree to what you said. I have been so obsessed with looking for the ONE, the one true love, the Twinsoul, but instead what I really need and want is the soulmate that really loves me and whom I can love (without having the urge to run away, I am such a restless soul sometimes). BTW are you implying this actor could be the best SM for my lifè? DD IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted June 30, 2007 12:21 PM
GOSHHHH i wrote such a big post that LL didnt accepted im gonna try to write the same again:VenusDeMilo, but that Pisces,do yu love him?Have you looked to tight aspects between karma/NN and other planets? TwinkleStars, please,dont talk about Izo like that She´s a wonderful person,with a great heart and sweet and honest. She´s the one of a few who i consider to be a close friend,even if i dont know her in person.Since the beginnig that Izo always has helped me,as well as she does with many others here. We are just a community or persons who are atracted to astrology and tries to understand better our own souls,our paths and our relationships too. When i needed,she was always there to help me and im foreb~ver thankful of that. So please dont talk like that,case you will only diminuish yourself and thats not what you want isnt it? Well,regarding the guy,the aspects must be within 1ºorb to be considered meaningfull to IQ ( but sometimes also applies to 2ºorb , i think).
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posted June 30, 2007 12:22 PM
VenusDEindia, didnt IQ said they were Twin Souls?They have Valentine trine Valentine and karma trine karma , dont they? Jane, with those 0ºorb aspects...no doubt you are SM Regarding actors, i always was fascinated by misterious guys- Butler will be always attractive even with his opera phantom disfigured face for me. And Ewan,well i wouldnt mind him to sing for me in the shower as well ( someday im gonna convince my bf to sing for me hihihi) DD, as for what ive seen in my opinion, he is really your SM
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Taurus80 Newflake Posts: 10 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2007 12:37 PM
Hi all!nice nice aspects !!!! Jane you are hiliarous!! Twinkle, please do not talk to Izo that way, i wasn't going to say anything yesterday when you started with that jab toward her, but please do not make this thread into bashing people. IP: Logged |
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posted June 30, 2007 12:42 PM
Hahah u people are funny. Until you have actually checked out her other posts where she curses at me in another section of this forum then maybe you should mind your own business thanks Don't speak without knowing the facts first. I know very very well she's not usually in here. So don't try and tell me she is. She's following me because she's holding an internet grudge. IP: Logged |
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posted June 30, 2007 12:43 PM
Yeah Taurus This Thread is all about LOVE IP: Logged |
Taurus80 Newflake Posts: 10 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2007 01:02 PM
Yeah Diandra! Twinkle, please leave this out of a thread about astrology. No one has started anything with you on this thread, so please just stop. Thank you IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted June 30, 2007 01:06 PM
Diandra, I do love him. I always will. the feeling between us is magical. But I'm so disillusioned. I'm terrified of him though. It's funny, because when we first met, I told him I was afraid of him... and I was... I was afraid that I thought I met this wonderful person who told me all these wonderful things about himself and then he would change (like my ex-husband did)... He promised he would never change, or ever treat me badly, he said "I don't fight... I have never fought with any girlfriend"... and now I know why!!! If there is any conflict or difficult, he completely cuts you off and avoids you. It's ridiculous behaviour. Anyway... now... the thought of trusting him chills me to my bones in a very real fear... since he's emotionally stood me up TWICE now. I can never put my heart on the line again for him. I just can't. I think a third time might actually, literally kill me. I can't even fathom the thought of going through it again.We have like... pretty much every soulmate indicator that there is. It would take me forever to list everything... but, here are the main ones and what you asked about: His Karma is opposed my Venus/Neptune conjunction which sits on his Sun/Moon midpoint. I've been told the conjunction on the Sun/Moon midpoint is a little too wide (2.5 degrees)... but I think it's significant. My Sun/Mars conjunction is exactly sextile/trine his North & South nodes. So is my ASC. His Venus is exactly sextile my Sun/Mars conjunction. His Venus is also conjunct my Vertex (1 orb) and DC (4 orb). My Chiron is conjunct his DC (3 orb). His Pluto is exact on my ASC, my Pluto is quindecile his Venus (exact). His Valentine is exact on my Venus/Neptune conjunction. My Valentine is conjunct his Moon (1 orb). My Amor opposed his Pluto (1 orb). His Amor is conjunct my Sun/Mars (a little wide tho... 2/3 orb, not sure if its valid). Isis is in the same position and so is Osiris in both our charts... within a couple of degrees. I know he's my soulmate, maybe even my twin soul, BUT... I don't believe we are destined for this lifetime. I really don't Darkdreamer... thanks for your kind words. I have accepted it and I try to let him go on his way, but he keeps popping up. I wonder if it's because maybe we are supposed to find a way to be together and make this work? Is the universe trying to tell me that? The thing is, I wouldn't even know where to start. There is no trust. There is less than no trust. There is a trust DEFICIT. I wish he would go on his way... spiritually, literally, in every way. I forget about him consciously, I ignore his emails and his stupid email games (he hacked my email and myspace!). I don't tak his calls. I try not to think about him... then guess what? I dream of him. VIVID dreams. That come true. I hate this. Thanks for listening. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted June 30, 2007 01:13 PM
Jane,I can relate to what you said about Brad. I always liked him, but only in a brotherly or sisterly way. well, he has been born on the same day as me, so maybe that`s why he feels kind of familiar. Regarding Kyle McLachlan, I used to like him, or I was fascinated by him, but I`ve seen him in the wrong film or rather series, and that "Twin Peaks" really brought a lot of darkness into my mind. I can`t say it differently, but with it came a lot of twisted dreams and even one horrible vision, that I would have loved to believe was just a dream, but unfortunately two years ago I found out that it was indeed true. I`m glad I found my balance back, but seeing Kyle is like I`m confronted with those dark images again, and I mean, really nasty and dark images. That is the reason I asked my Higher Self to keep him out of my dreams. But for some reason I don`t understand, he has been having his guest appearances in my dreams for the last 15 years, mostly saying mysterious things I don`t understand and sometimes he is something of a warning voice. *shrugs* So, all of this led me to stay far away from everything he did. I really don`t want to go there again; in the time when I was watching Twin Peaks, I learned a lesson in irrational fears. Irrational maybe, but it feels very real, when you`re under its influence. And as I said I don`t wanna go there again. So, in a way poor Mr MacLachlan is linked with feelings of darkness, fear and (self)destructive behaviour in my mind. But for some reason he`s still in my data-list on astro.com. Twinkle Stars, can`t we all get along nicely? I don`t know what has happened between Izo and you, but I`d really like to keep that thread a nice one. DD
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posted June 30, 2007 01:20 PM
Venus,I kind of can relate to what you wrote. My musical mystery man had a knack of popping up again and again in my life, and I so tried to avoid him. But that was probably the mistake. By deliberately trying to avoid him, I must have sent a lot of energy into his direction, or creating a void, that magnetised him back (into my consciousness at least). And the more I consciously avoided him, the more he invaded my dreams. I fought it, I fought so hard my feelings for him, which I knew were wrong, because he is gay and all. But then this year on the 7th april I suddenly realized, my feelings weren`t wrong at all. I loved him, I may have loved him in another life, too, and I will love him to the day I die. But I let him go. DD IP: Logged |
izodesmozina unregistered
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posted June 30, 2007 01:47 PM
WOW, girls! I am very moved by the fact that you defended me! You are all very dear to me too and I consider you my friends, even if we don't know each other in person. Lots of hugs and kisses from me to you! I do not know who Twinkle Stars is, I have never spoken to her before. Even though I am wrongfully accused, I will let this matter pass because I respect DD and all of you and do not wish to bring sadeness and negative energy in a thread that is about love and soul mates. Thank you all for your support! IP: Logged |
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posted June 30, 2007 02:13 PM
DD, Joaquin Phoenix, hmmm? Veeeeeeeeeeery nice! . Never did my synastry with him, but now you got me curious too . I just love his intensity! I wrote you an e-mail, I hope you received it. Yes, I returned. Actually, I never left. I was about to do that and register with a new nickname, but I changed my mind. I am staying registered with this nickname. There are a lot of people with several identities here on LL already and I don't want to create more confusion. I read your story with the musician (I don't remember on what thread you posted it, but it really impressed me). I am sorry you went through such a painful experience. I know how hard it is to let go while you still love the person. Venus, I don't know your story with the Pisces. I know you posted a Davison chart some time ago and asked if it had soul mate potential. I wanted to reply back then, but couldn't get my ideas in a proper order and decided not to. But I remeber you had an almost exact North Node-Valentine conjunction in the 12th composite house. I would think having the life path (NN) in conjunction with true love (Valentine) in the house of spirituality and past lives is definitely a very strong indicator (and I know IQ said so )! Is this the Pisces man? By the way, I also remember that you guys had Pluto in the 12th house (don't remember whether it was in the Davison or composite). I know from experience it is not an easy placement. Does the description from cafeastrology.com fit? quote: Composite Pluto in the 12th House. Power struggles between the two of you tend to be buried instead of dealt with spontaneously. When they do emerge, they may surprise both of you, as they have been brewing for some time and are well-developed. This "slush" that can take the form of resentment can undermine your relationship if you're not careful. Do your best to watch for the tendency to eat your words when you feel dominated or when your needs are pushed to the side. These feelings have to go somewhere, and matter that is swept under the carpet will emerge at some point.
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Taurus80 Newflake Posts: 10 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2007 02:35 PM
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samsara Newflake Posts: 0 From: buenos aires, argentina Registered: Aug 2009
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posted June 30, 2007 02:38 PM
Hi Guys, What is all this Isis ,Osiris stuff. I've been into Astrology for yearsand I know anything about the stuff your referring to. PLEASE,fill me in or point me to a web site where I can learn about this stuff. Are you talking about asteroids? Anyway, I want the low down :-) Please let me know all you can tell me about these points. Valentine? never heard of this stuff. I'm curious and fascinated though!! Thanks in advance for your help! IP: Logged |
izodesmozina unregistered
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posted June 30, 2007 02:45 PM
Diandra , Sorry for my absence . Exams went well. I have one more next week and after that I will have more free time at my disposal to study charts and asteroids . I will write soon with news. I am happy that everything turned out alright with you and your man! So you're seeing each other again this week-end? Hihihi! Have lots of fun! And less arguments . Hugs!! Taurus, Thank you for everything! You have always been so nice and thoughtful! How are things with you and your Juno-POM-dw guy? Blissful, I hope! Take care, sweetie! IP: Logged |
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posted June 30, 2007 02:47 PM
(((((((((Taurus))))))))))May I have your e-mail adress so I can invite you to our support group? IP: Logged |
samsara Newflake Posts: 0 From: buenos aires, argentina Registered: Aug 2009
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posted June 30, 2007 03:07 PM
Hi Venus, I read your stuff about the pisces guy and maybe (please don't be offended) he's damaged goods. When people react that extremely to slights and arguments maybe they are dealing with extreme situations in their past that you don't know about. In that case if you knew the truth about their childhood or past relationships with women you might feel compassion. I'm not suggesting that you engage with this man. But maybe if you really knew his reasons for this behavior you could feel less frustrated or fearful. He sounds like someone that's has a lot of issues with women and intimacy. You know anything about his relationship with his mother? Thats usually tthe key to a man's realtionship with woman. Maybe there are some huge things there that you could never dream of that happened with his mother.Maybe ther are things he never told you about. And that he's just too wounded a person in the romantic arena. This is just my two cents. Also being a Pisces myself ,I know the men are all very,very fragile in some ways. I've seen this even in the tough pisces males I've known. All of them are extrtemely vulnerable people. If your a stronger sign or not a water sign, you may think they play head games or whatever. But it's mostly about protection. Other water signs seem to feel the fragility of pisces and are intuitivly more aware. They feel it this fragility too but have more resources. Even scorpio's, who can be tough as nails,make pisces feel understood and that alone can be soothing because the eggshell self pisces has feels comfortable knowing it's known. so even when i get in fights with scorps I know they know me so well that I still feel ok with it. But when other types that dont; undertsand , it feels like too mucvh. becuae you know they don't understand you and then you still have to contend with fights and other things. My advice is to drop feeling angry or hurt by this person. And try to understand them. If this guy is too screwed up ,due to issues from childhood. Maybe you have to cut your losses and move on.But if you see it as something he didn;t inrensionally do. You can feel better about it all. There arn't that many truly mean pisces that I've known. And the few I have always feel bad about it. So just see him as a little fish struggling on a hook. Maybe you don;t have time for all that and he should have his life together etc. But this is the reality of it. You won;t be able to change him most likely. Maybe he;s tried and can't and needs help. But you have needs and this man may not be able to meet them. Anyway, I understand pisces very well, as well as anyone can I guess. It;s a blessing and also very hard to be one I think. If you have any questions about the sign I'll help you. But I hope my little post helped too. Samsara
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posted June 30, 2007 03:11 PM
Samsara, Yes, we are talking about asteroids. Better than giving you my opinion about them, I'd rather let you make up your own. There are no sites about them, as I know of, but there are a few very good, informative threads here on Lindaland. I'm sure I missed some, but I hope Diandra and the girls will remember more . Enjoy! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009111.html (about Valentine and other love asteroids) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009192.html (about asteroid Karma) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013894.html (on Isis and Osiris) IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted June 30, 2007 03:12 PM
Yeah Taurus,welcome aboard hihihihiVenusDEMilo, Hmmmm its awful that youre feelin that. At the same time you want him to be near you,and dont:cause he makes you suffer. AS Izo said,i didnt knew you had a valentine-NN conjunction - accordingly to IQ,he says that aspect by itself can turn all other negative into less harmfull isnt htis wonderfull? Myself struggled hard to find this particular on my own sinastry i must say Darkdreamer is my testemony on that hihihi and i finally found one Valentine/NN conjunction (1º) in heliocentric to tropical! So, i think that you can think very well on that,all that youve passed,all that you feel still, and see if you picture yourself being happy with him,with effort always. If you picture that on your mind,theres the chance it happens. i wish all SM be together and happy you know;but sometimes its just not the right time i guess.
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posted June 30, 2007 03:13 PM
SAMSARA, read the thread about karma,isis and osiris,and all that started by IQ On Asteroids he´s the one who addicted us on this Asteroids hihihiIzo, you were very right on waht you said in the suport group i feel a little ashamed to be having that insecurity torwards my Jonhy-he didnt deserved that - im gonna kiss him endlessly on our weekend do that he doesnt stay sad with me! DD, would you like to be on our support group about SM?
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posted June 30, 2007 03:30 PM
Hihihi! Already asked DD in the e-mail . Diandra, Nooooooooooo! Do not feel ashamed! There is no reason for that. Yes, admit that you have some personal issues to confront, but John is patient and understanding and will help you all the way. That is what soul mates do . He will help you grow as a person and you will do the same to him! Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! You guys are so adorable! Whenever you feel down and start to doubt your relationship, remember all the tests you guys were put through, all the difficulties that you have overcome! You are so right and so good for each other! I am sure you guys will make it all the way! IP: Logged |
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posted June 30, 2007 03:33 PM
Izo, what a sincronicity between me and you hihihi Yeah my personal issue is being a Virgo He´s indeed my Saturn guy :P - when i act childish,he just put me in the right place but with sweetness of course. - feel that too...that we are the ones for eacth other --awww im missin him now - he´s studyin Math - right now i sent him an sms not to fall asleep hihihi
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posted June 30, 2007 05:34 PM
Oh you girls, you make me feel really great and that on a day, that has been quite awful. So much warmth, appreciation, respect and understanding here. I really feel at home with you. And of course I do want to join your support group. I feel we have such a lot in common and can support each other as well as learn from each other. So, yes, please let me in. My day hasn`t been too great, because it`s very likely that I won`t see my actor after all. Everything seemed to right, but now, with the terrorist`s threats in London. *sighs* I don´t know what I`m gonna do, I just don`t know.
For Joaquin Phoenix, well, that is a much lighter matter right now. But you`re so right about his intensity. I still can`t watch "Quills" in one go. I have to make breaks, because his intensity takes my breath away. I actually didn`t see it too often because of this. I`m just one wobbly, whiney mess after seeing a film with him. lol It`s true, I cannot see his films with others together, because it`s followed by extended crying sessions. But after that I everytime pushed the memory of my weak emotional moments away. no, no, no, grown up girls don`t cry over men they only saw on film. lol However, never did our synastry before, but after this dream, I thought I should do.
That man surely is one explosive mixture of intensity. Sun, Venus, Mars - conjunction in Scorpio, Taurus-ASC, Aries-Moon. O la la! However, now you asked me, you don´t have a choice, I will post what I found out synastrically; well the main things: Exact aspects between main bodies:
His Sun sextile my Venus His Moon trine my True Node his Moon opposite my Pluto His Pluto sextile my ASC his Karma opposite my Sun (well it`s 1°15, damn it!) His Valentine opposite my PoM His PoF conjunct my ASC The Isis-Osiris-aspects within 2° are:
his Isis conjunct my True Node (0°11) His Isis conjunct my ASC (3) His Isis conjunct my Neptune (0°03) His Isis sextile my Pluto (1) His Osiris sextile my Moon (0) His Osiris opposite my Karma (0°11) My Isis square his Moon (1,5) My Isis sextile his Valentine (0°17) My Isis square his Pluto (0) My Osiris square his Moon (2) My Osiris sextile his Valentine (1) my Osiris square his Pluto (0°04) That gives us actually 2 dw`s with Isis / Osiris: Isis / Pluto Osiris / Moon Other synastrical aspect are: (only a selection) His ASC sextile my Jupiter (0) His Jupiter square my ASC (0) His Vertex square my Saturn (1) His Saturn conjunct my Vertex (2) His Moon trine my Neptune (0°03) His Mercury sextile my Sun / Mercury (2) His Venus conjunct my Uranus (2) His Mars conjunct my Uranus (0) His True Node conjunct my ASC (3,5) His Vertex trine my Moon (0) His Vertex trine my Karma (0) His Karma opposite my Mercury (0) His Karma trine my Psyche (0) His Amor sextile my Node (0) His Amor sextile my Neptune (1) His Amor conjunct my Pluto (2) His Psyche sextile my Node (2) His Psyche sextile my ASC (1) His Psyche trine my Pluto (1) His Psyche conjunct my Pallas (1) His Juno sextile my Venus (1) His Neptune conjnct my ASC (1) his Pluto square my Venus (1) His PoM sextile my Vertex (0) His PoM sextile my Eros (1)
the DRACONIC HIGHLIGHTS: (only compared natal to draco, not draco to draco)
his DC conjunct my dr Vertex (0) his dr Vertex sextile my ASC His Valentine conjuncts my dr Saturn his Saturn trines my dr Valentine his dr Sun conjunct my Psyche (0) his dr Moon trine my Valentine his dr Venus conjunct my Psyche his dr Mars conjunct my Moon his SN conjunct my dr Moon his SN conjunct my dr Psyche his DC conjunct my dr Eros his Antivertex conjunct my dr Sun (0) his Vertex trine my dr psyche His Karma sextile my dr Venus his dr Karma trine my Karma His Valentine conjuncts my dr Vertex His Valentine conjuncts my dr Eros His Valentine trines my dr Juno his dr Amor sextile my Amor his dr isis trine my Valentine his Osiris trine my dr Sun (0) His osiris opposite my dr psyche his dr Osiris conjunct my Nadir his dr Osiris trine my ASC his Psyche trine my dr Moon his Psyche trine my dr Karma His Psyche square my dr Saturn his dr psyche opposite my Valentine (0.03) his dr Juno opposite my Sun / Mercury his dr Juno trine my Psyche (0) his dr Uranus conjunct my Moon his Uranus opposite my dr isis / Osiris his dr Neptune trine my Valentine (0) his Pluto trine my dr Moon his Pluto conjunc tmy dr Karma Hmm, I noticed, there are some cross-aspects with Psyche, as well in the natal-synastry as in the draco.
Now, because I just found out about it, I looked at the sidereal comparision, too.
DW:
His s-Venus sextile my Node (1,5) My s Venus conjuncts his Node (1) his sVenus square my Isis (0) my s Venus conjuncts his Isis (1) his s Venus conjuncts my MC (3,5) his s Mc conjuncts my Venus (1,5) His s Node trine my Juno (0) his s Juno sextile my Node (0) his s Karma oposite my Valentine (2,5) his s Valentine trine my Karma (1,5) His s Karma opposite my Amor (1) His s Amor square my Karma (0) My s- Isis conjuncts his Osiris (2) my s Osiris conjuncts his Isis (3,5) (Actually, my sidereal Isis / Osiris-conjunctions falls onto his wide natal Isis / Osiris-conjunction) other aspects are:
His s Sun conjuncts my Pluto His s Moon conjuncts my Juno His s Venus conjuncts my Pluto (0) His s mars squares my Venus (0) His s Node trine my Saturn His s Valentine trine my Moon His s Amor opposite my Juno His s Eros conjunct my DC (0) His s Eros conjuncts my SN His s AC sextile my Moon His s AC sextile my Karma my s Venus trine his Moon My s Venus sextile his Amor my s Mars conjuncts his DC my s Saturn conjuncts his karma my s True Node conjucnts his DC my s Juno trines his Karma my s Valentine conjuncts his Sun My s Valentine conjuncts his Venus (0) my s Valentine trines his Juno My s Amor conjuncts his Sun My s Valentine conjuncts his Mars My s Amor conjucnts his Valentine My s Isis conjuncts his Node My s Osiris conjuncts his Node My s Eros conjuncts his Karma my s psyche conjuncts his MC My s AC conjuncts his DC (0) My s AC conjuncts his Valentine Hmm, *scratches head* this is, well, I don`t know what to say actually.
DD
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posted June 30, 2007 08:33 PM
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posted June 30, 2007 08:43 PM
My Aspects w/ Virgo Boy...(Yall knew I couldn't resist lookin these up! )...~My ISIS wide conj his NN(6 Deg.) ~My ISIS Sext his Karma(3 Deg.) ~My OSIRIS sq. his Vertex(3 Deg.) ~My OSIRIS sext his Union(2 Deg.) ~His ISIS sext my Mercury(0 Deg.) ~His ISIS sext my Asc.(2 Deg.) ~His OSIRIS sext my Venus(2 Deg.) ~His OSIRIS conj my NN(0 Deg.) ~His OSIRIS trine my Eros(1 Deg.) ------------------ S:Taurus ASC:Gemini M:Scorpio IP: Logged | |