posted June 29, 2007 09:50 AM              

I just wanted to share something (I really do have too much time, donīt I?).

I remember, or Diandra reminded me of that, that IQ said that if Isis, and Osiris are aspecting Sun, Moon, AC or Node in another one`s chart, then there is soulmate-potential.

However, I checked that with some couples and want to share my results. (I used the main aspects and quinkunx within orb: 2,5°):

ANTONIO BANDERAS - MELANIE GRIFFITH
His Isis trine her Moon
His Osiris trine her Sun
his Osiris sextile her Moon
His Osiris quinkunx her Node
His Osiris quinkunx her DC

JOHNNY DEPP - VANESSA PARADIS

his Isis conjuncts her True Node
his Isis quinkunx her Isis
her Isis quinkunx his Moon
her Isis conjuncts his AC

A GAY COUPLE I KNOW

Osiris trine Sun
Osiris trine Node
Sun trine Isis
Moon trine Osiris

FRIENDS OF MINE; WHO ARE VERY MUCH IN LOVE

his Isis sextile her AC
his Isis square her Isis
his Osiris quinkunx her Sun
his Osiris sextile her AC

FRIENDS OF MINE (MARRIED FOR 3 YEARS)

her Osiris trine his True Node
her Isis quinkunx his DC
his Isis sextile her AC

MY PARENTS

his Osiris trine her Moon
his osiris opposite her Isis
her Osiris quinkunx his Moon

ROBERT AND ELISABETH BROWNING

his Isis trine her Isis
His Osiris square her True Node

(I don`t know their birthtimes, so I left out AC and MOon; so there could be more connections; actually assuming a Noon-time;

his Moon is trine her Osiris
and her Moon is opposite his Osiris

JOHNNY CASH AND JUNE CARTER (her time unknown)

his Isis trine her Sun
his Isis square her Osiris
his Osiris square her Osiris
her Isis conjuncts his True Node

Mmh, those were all I could think of; however it seems that indeed Isis and Osiris are triggered by Sun, Moon, ASC, Node in meaningful relationships. And it seems to be at least 3 aspects, or 2 main aspects involved.

Can anyone confirm this? Or was it just coincidence with those couples?

DD

posted June 29, 2007 10:02 AM              

his Isis sextile her Node
his Osiris square her Node
her Isis conjunct his Sun

Oh and I did some calculations with random celebrities and my horoscope (I was quite shocked to find good aspects with two actors, so I had to find some actors, who don`t make good aspects to my horoscope)

I chose Leonardo di Caprio, because he definitely is noone I would think of as soulmate-or even crush-material:

his Isis is sextile My Moon

and that`s it! Good to know.

A musical acotr I had a short crush on:

his Isis trine my Node

NOthing else.

A real-life crush I had in school;

no aspects, not even one

(even though his Osiris was exactly conjunct my Valentine; and I sure was absolutely in love with him, but no soulmate-material)

posted June 29, 2007 11:07 AM              

will smith and jada pinkett maybe? i love those 2 also

OHH

I Did my Mom and Dad!! - a karmic astrologer confirmed they are soulmates also

- Dadīs osiris oposes Momīs sun(-1š)
- Dadīs osiris (< ) Momīs NN(0š);
-Dadīs Isis sextiles Momīs NN(-3š)
- Dadīs Osiris oposes Momīs osiris(0š)
- Dadīs isis/osiris oposes Momīs karma(-9/-2)
- Momīs Osiris oposes Dadīs NN(-7š)
- Momīs osiris skuares Dadīs asc(-2š)
- Momīs isis sesquiquadrats Dadīs NN(0š),sextiles Dadīs MC(1š)

Also theirs Psych trine Psyche(0š) adn they have all Dr Zīs Soulmate Clues,mostly with DWīs !

posted June 29, 2007 01:09 PM            

Meaning, my Isis 7 Aqua & Osiris 21 Aqua...

And his is Isis 9 Aqua & Osiris 22 Aqua?

His IC is exactly conjunct my Isis And my Osiris is exactly sextile both his natal Juno & Chiron (conjunct in his chart).

It's the f#cking Pisces Psycho again. This is insane.

posted June 29, 2007 01:40 PM              

well, IQ the Master of Asteroids said that after lookin for the minimum 3-5 exact aspects between maibodies in sinastry:Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/Saturn/Pluto/Asc/NN/Karma , we could go up the next stage:asteroids.

Then,we look up the major ones concerning love and also he said that whenever isis/osiris makes tight aspects between and to sun/moon/karma/asc - then it could be soulmate material.

In the end,we analyse it all together and see if there are patterns.
The final word is from IQ and so all this curiosity of asteroids came from there!

posted June 29, 2007 03:51 PM              

Sun semisx Isis (.5)
Sun quinkx Osiris (2)
Sun Opp Isis (2)

My sister & her boyfriend already have:

Venus sx Venus (0)
Venus sq Mars (0)
Venus con Jup (0)
Sun quinkx Mars (0)
Jup Opp Asc (0) & Jup sx Asc (0)

****edited:***added
HIS ASC Trines HER Mars (.5)
HIS ASC semisex HER Venus (.5)

They have some others too,

Please help with an answer. My sister keeps bugging me to find out if they are soulmates, and I'm still learning and don't want to give her any wrong answers.

DT

posted June 29, 2007 04:08 PM              

unfortunatelly i cant say if your sister and his bf are soulmates cause im yet a newbie on this.
The right person to analyse that kind of statements is maybe Iqunk,who for now isnt here on LL ( will return next week,i think).

I see that you already saw if they had a minimum of 3-5 exact aspects in sinastry;but look closely in particular if there are within 1šorb major aspects(conj,trines,oposit,sextiles) between sun/moon/asc//venus/mars/saturn/pluto/NN/Karma.
the planet jupiter which you posted,doesnt enter in this premiss cause is not considered a planet of major importance in love relationships - those above are seen as more important and which can closely bond 2 people by love.

the venus/mars and venus/venus are within the premiss

Then,add those considered the love asteroids,including valentine,amor,lust,cupid,union,aphrodite,you can go to the thread love asteroids for refenrence and see the respective numbers to go to Astro in sinastry

posted June 29, 2007 04:32 PM              

My Osiris Trine his Moon
My Osiris Sextile his Mercury

posted June 29, 2007 04:45 PM              

I was curious so I checked.

And we have:

My Osiris Trine his Pas Fortunae

My Isis Sextile his Venus
My Isis Sextile his Mercury
My Isis Semi-Sextile his Saturn
My Isis Trine his Uranus
My Isis Sextile his Chiron

posted June 29, 2007 07:18 PM              

But then again, we could be wrong, and Isis, Osiris isn`t all that important after all.

posted June 30, 2007 01:48 AM            

If you're single, you date. You'd have a lot of data to make comparisons with.

With that said, I don't have a lot of Isis/Osiris action going on with many people at all (romantic or otherwise).

Oh Diandra.... I have been through the ringer with this guy. We have lots of exact planetary aspects, lots of asteroids, lots of angles.

posted June 30, 2007 03:52 AM              

-ex no 1: 3 aspects (+3 wide)
-a colleague's boyfriend: 2 aspects
-very good friend of mine (just friends): 3 aspects (+2 wide)
-a neighbour: 2 aspects (+2 wide orbs ones)
-ex no 2: 4 aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown) (+1 wide)
-boss: 2 aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown) (+2 wide)
-colleague: 1 aspect (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-colleague/enemy: 4 aspects!! (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-ex no 3: none! (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-friend: 2 aspects (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-boss: 4 aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-favourite actor: 2 (+2 wide)
-friend: 2 (+2 wide)
-friend who had a crush on me: 2 (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-mutual crush, nothing happened: 2 aspects
-colleague: 4 (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-huge crush of mine: 3 aspects (+2 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-colleague/enemy: 2 (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-a friend's ex (barely spoken to him): 5 aspects (+2 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-famous person: 2 aspects
-friend: 2 aspects
-friend's ex: 2 aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-friend's ex (never met him): 1 aspect
-friend's crush (never met him): 4 aspects
-friend's crush (never met him): 1 aspect
-friend's crush (never met him): 2 aspects (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-mutual crush, nothing happened: 1 (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-enemy: 2 wide aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-actor: 3 (+1 wide)
-colleague: 2 (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-colleague: 2 (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-colleague who has a crush on me: 3 aspects
-famous person: 2 aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown)
-friend from the internet: 5 aspects (+1 wide)
-patient of mine: 3 aspects (+2 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)

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posted June 30, 2007 04:58 AM              

I actually wanted to include that first we have to look for the minimum of 3 exact aspects between main bodies, but then forgot to write it down here.
I really think even a wonderful Isis-Osiris-conjunction in synastry wouldn`t point to a soulmate, if it is isolated in the chart. It has to be connected to main bodies.
In my chart it`s easy, because my natal Isis-Osiris-conjunction is conjunct my Venus, so almost everything (Venus is 2° from the Isis-Osiris-conjunction), that touches my Isis-Osiris also triggers my Venus. Also, my dr Isis/ Osiris is trine my natal Sun, so another connection to a personal planet.

And I think, in addition to having synastrical exact aspects between main bodies, the Isis-Osiris-aspects should be linked to main bodies in the charts. I think that is the reason IQ suggested to look out for connections to Sun, Moon, Node and ASC. But I guess you did that.
In the case of those two actors, which puzzle me a lot, there`s a connection of Isis, Osiris that is intervowen with personal planets on both sides.
ACtor no 1 has his Mars conjunct my Isis, Osiris and Venus, while my Sun is trine his Isis and my Node / ASC trines his Osiris (all within 2°).
this (his) Mars, (my) Isis, Osiris,Venus stellium is sextile his Venus/ my Jupiter and square my Pluto / MC.
His Isis is not only trine my Sun, but also quinkunx his own Valentine and square my VAlentine and widely sextile his own Node.
Also, his Osiris is the apex planet of a yod between his Venus and Mars (exact sextile-aspect); it`s also quinkunx my Isis / Osiris-conjunction, so that in that case there`s a huge interplay between those planets.
In the case of the other actor his Isis falls onto my Stellium of Neptune, Node, ASC and sextiles my Pluto; it`s also exactly trine his own Moon, so with that Isis-conjunction comes a synastric trine of (his) Moon to my Neptune, NOde and ASC and an opposition to my Pluto.
His Osiris is sextile my Moon, opposite my Karma and quinkunx my Saturn (all within 1°).
In his own chart Osiris is only sextile his Vertex. This Vertex is also trine my Moon, sextile my Karma and square my Saturn (again within 1°), but since we`re still unsure about the Vertex, I don`t count it as a main body, until now, so he would maybe react much less to this synastric Osiris-Moon - sextile (Having said that, we have a synastric dw of Osiris-Moon, so who knows? Theories, Theories).
As I mentioned, my own Isis / Osiris is conjunct my Venus and square my Pluto; His own Sun / VAlentine-conjunction sextiles this Isis /Osiris/Venus-stellium (synastric Sun-Venus, VAlentine - Isis, Valentine- Osiris within 1°). Additonally his Pluto squares my Isis, Osiris, Venus (Pluto is a generational thing, but the squares of his Pluto to my Isis, Osiris are within 1°, whereas the Pluto-Venus-square is 1,5° - all pretty tight).
All of this is just hypothetical, I know, but I think that is what we should look for, patterns. Only if we find such patterns and interlocking aspects of Isis / Osiris with other personal synastric aspects Isis / Osiris might give hints to soulmates.

Also, I would keep the orbs even tighter (unless it`s conjunctions); I agree with IQ on the 2° orb; I just widened it to 2,5° probably to find more aspects (I am bad, I know ); but when I looked at my examples again, actually the only aspects I used with a more than 2° orb were:

The Isis-Node-conjunction of Johnny and Vanessa with an orb of 2°01 (I think that`s alright)
and the Isis-Moon-trine of Antonio and Melanie with an orb of 2°10 (and those two wouldn`t even need that; they have so many aspects).

Maybe I`m getting repetitive, but I really don`t think an Isis-Osiris-connection alone (not even 3 or more of them) give hints towards Twinsouls; there have to be more things falling into place (like for example Nodal connections - conjunctions preferably, connections to the water houses, and all the known patterns) and even then only your heart can tell you if he is the ONE or not. But soulmates, yes, I think we meet a lot of them, and with some we share a deeper bond than with others, and I hope you can see it in the horoscopes (still searching and investigating the clues). But soulmates are not only the ones you love, but also the ones you love, and then love turns to bitterness, or even your enemies. Soulmate are in your life to teach you lessons, of love, of letting go, of learning tolerance, I don`t know; every lesson is unique I guess.

HOwever, looking at your list (and you should see MY list; if I had dated every single man on there, oh my There is Antonio BAnderas, Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Joaquin Phoenix, Brad Pitt, John Cusack, Bruce Willis, Ewan McGregor, Jude Law, Gerry Butler; John Cusack, Kyle MacLachlan, Stuart Townsend and many many more.)

"ex no 1: 3 aspects (+3 wide)"
I would definitely count that. Not every ex`s is a soulmate, but probably most are.

"-very good friend of mine (just friends): 3 aspects (+2 wide)"
It doesn`t surprise me. Good friens should have a connectiont o your soul. I haven`t got many friends, but those I have, I would consider as soulmates.

"-ex no 2: 4 aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown) (+1 wide)"
That is pretty much.

"-colleague/enemy: 4 aspects!! (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
That would just emphasize my theory that soulmates are not only people you unconditionally love, but sometimes they challenge you in such ways that you may even see them as an enemy.
I may sound stupid now, but I have learned as much from my enemies as from the loved ones, sometimes even more.

"-ex no 3: none! (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
That is surprising and interesting.

"-boss: 4 aspects (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
Your boss has much influence over your fate in a certain sense, I think. So, I guess there`s much to learn in such a relationship. It`s sometimes (depending on the boss) a bit like a parent-child-relationship, and in those dependant connection we make the heaviest and lasting experiences, I think. I`m sure I have plenty of karmic connections with my boss; lol he pushes all the wrong buttons, he`s actually sometimes like my mother was during my puberty. We`re cursed to repeat the lessons, until we have finally understood and learned them I guess.

"-favourite actor: 2 (+2 wide)"
Who is this? Robert Downey Jr?

"-colleague: 4 (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
This sounds interesting. ONly a colleague or a friend, an enemy? And are those aspects connected to personal synastric aspects?

"-a friend's ex (barely spoken to him): 5 aspects (+2 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
WOW, that is nothing you really want to find. lol

Venus de Milo,

this Pisces-Psycho, did you find Isis-osiris-connections with him?
However, maybe Isis, Osiris isn`t connected in your own chart, that could be a reason for little action in synastry.
Also, after reading your posts, I think this Pisces definitely is your soulmate, one of those we encounter, but sometimes it`s part of the lesson to learn to let each other go. That is the hardest lesson I ever had to learn. Sometimes you want to make it work so hard, but then the trust gets lost, destroyed, whatever, and in the end you have to realize, that it will not work, because you`re not meant to be living happily ever after; you`re meant to be let go of expectation of each other and to let each other go, despite the love you maybe still feel, or maybe because of the love you feel. Sometimes you can deeply love someone, but have to realize that it`s time to part ways.
Hmm, I wrote "you" but actually I think I was referring to my own experience. lol

DD

posted June 30, 2007 06:47 AM              

Liz Taylor and Richard Burton
as for my Parents ( are u'll bored aldready ? )
they have the following freaky 0 degree aspects in their synastry , IQ says this convinced him they r soulmates

her Isis, Sun and moon conj his D.C.
her Osiris conjunct his venus and Valentine
his Isis trines her sun and moon
his Osiris conjuncts her Valentine

these r all i could see, there might be more.
here's their Birth Data

him
23/01/1956
11:00 a.m.
Jodhpur, Rajasthan, India
her
27/03/1960
11:58 A.m.
Jodhpur, Rajasthan, India

posted June 30, 2007 07:21 AM              

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"-ex no 3: none! (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
That is surprising and interesting.

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"-favourite actor: 2 (+2 wide)"
Who is this? Robert Downey Jr?

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"-colleague: 4 (+1 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
This sounds interesting. ONly a colleague or a friend, an enemy? And are those aspects connected to personal synastric aspects?

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"-a friend's ex (barely spoken to him): 5 aspects (+2 wide) (birthtime and ascendant unknown)"
WOW, that is nothing you really want to find. lol

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posted June 30, 2007 08:25 AM              

im so happy to see you here!how are you? did your exams went well? were been missin you - youve been busy for good things

DD,and all others,

IQ talked about the importance of isis-osiris tight aspects in sinastry between asc-moon-sun-karma-valentine.
He believes (this is from his quote) that certain interaspects shows us our best Soulmate for a life.
And yes,the soulfamily we have, with whom we have a soul contract, can be more than one of course
As for the Twin Soul, as i have said before,its a very very hard encounter and a very rare one also.
iīve red on an article that indeed,onl5 about 5% of humanity has found theirs,cause that encounter can many times only happen in periods of Centuries
I believe that in our life we must try to find our best companion,the one who can love us for who we are.That also is a soulmate,and for what ive red,soulmates relationships are more peaceful and understanding than the ones of Twins.
In the soul unions ive posted some links where i red those and it makes sense to me afterall.

So, i beieve we can be so happy its not needed to bwe only with the Twin

posted June 30, 2007 09:15 AM              

My Amor semi-sextile his Sun
My karma Trine his Neptune

His Amor Trine my Mercury
His Amor Trine my Mars

That other man who came back into my life and I have:

My Amor Trine his Mercury
My Amor Trne his Venus
My Amor Sextil his Uranus
My Amor trine his Chiron

His Amor Sextile my Jupiter
His Karma Semi-Sextile my Mars

posted June 30, 2007 09:32 AM              

Doesn't look to good.