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Topic: *statistically* most lasting attraction between signs
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Hexxie
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posted August 10, 2007 02:21 PM
 
I find it surprising that, according to this author, Aquarius males don't do well with Libra or Gemini females?! What's up with that? Only thing I could venture to guess is that maybe the proverbial 'book ends' syndrome could come out of these relations. What I mean by book ends is that air signs can be so up in their heads that they may just sit there next to each other holding all this great information between them but not doing a damn thing about it hehe. I have about 5,979 Aquarius friends and love them all... but then I do have an Aqua Moon so maybe this is why I find this surprising. *edit-P.S. Oh yay, I made the top of page 3!!! It's the little things you know... ------------------
`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll
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Lucia23
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posted August 10, 2007 02:53 PM
Wooow, this is really hopeful in terms of Leo Women with Scorpio men...which is often considered to be one of the most ill-fated and crappy pairings for long-term potential.IP: Logged |
MUSTANG
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posted August 10, 2007 07:26 PM
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Mary, the constant crier, was surprisingly a Capricorn!
Shocking! She seemed very outwardly emotional with her emotions, which isn't something you see much with capricorns. I knew the 48 year old was an aries right away. That's the sun sign I can always recognize for some reason.  I am not even going to touch the marriage debate... ------------------
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CoralFrequency
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posted August 10, 2007 08:58 PM
LOL Cardinal signs seem to really love themselves.
Have you noticed for both men/women and women/men.. all the cardinal signs have their own sign *first* - Capricorn is the only sign that has their own second.. but it's still top two.So I got Aries/Leo and Sag tops.. that's not too surprising. I'm not sure if I ever want to get married. This is the funniest part: 936 Libra Male Aries Female  lol - last on the list awwww I still love Libras.
Aqua, I know someone who has been with her partner about 6 years (1st long term relationship). They have a child and have been living together but are not married yet. Neither of them seem to want to get married. There is no issue there. He's pretty traditional so I think it's mainly her who's happy with things as they are. She's a Pisces/He's a Leo btw.
Other than the piece of paper, and the wedding costs (and the extra financial gains you may incur during a divorce) I can't see any practical way in which 'marriage' would affect the lives of two people in a relationship.
You can easily be de-factos without being married. I don't see what the difference would be, practically.. Maybe I have too much earth in my chart lol Thanks for posting these again!  IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 10, 2007 11:37 PM
Personally I'm a bit cynical about those umarried unions thingys: meaning I think they always end anyways because people usually stay in one of those things just to keep their options open and because of commitment phobias but that's just me. I'd rather live alone unmarried than cohabit with someone and have children out of wedlock. I personally couldn't live with someone like married couple for that long "happily-unwedded" anyways, its just too strange to me and not to mention very unsecure emotionally and financially.IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted August 11, 2007 12:20 AM
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I didnt read the whole thread so I dont know if anyone pointed this out but there is a seemingly high number of sextile and most notably - semi-sextile - signs that top the lists. Which is surprising bec they are generally among the weaker sign relationships of the "major" aspects. I would venture that this is bec those signs have venus conjunct their partner's sun. This usually happens with semi-sextile signs, occasionally sextile.
Statistically though, there was only a marginal dif bet the top and bottom of the lists. Anything above the most basic level of astrology just about ignores sun sign compatibility in long term relationships and this study generally shows why. It is not a statistically significant factor
I was thinking something similar, Bucketrider. In these combinations there's very often a Venus conjunction of some kind, eg Venus-Venus, Venus-Sun, Venus-Mercury. Me and my bf are semisextile suns (Taurus-Gemini) but we have Venus-Venus and Venus-Mercury conjunctions (among other Venus aspects). Among our generation, if I'm working this out correctly, I also think that Venus trine Pluto would be common among Taurus-Gemini and Gemini-Gemini couples (if the Venus is in Gemini and one or the other partner has Pluto in Libra) - this one seems to be quite a powerful aspect, and one that could maybe help to illustrate why Taurus-Gemini couples tend to be long-lasting unions despite the sun sign incompatibility. Many marriage-age Gemini's (I'm talking in the generation of Gemini's and Taureans in their 30's) also have Saturn in Taurus, which could represent a stronger feeling of commitment from the Gemini man to the Taurus woman who the Venus aspects are shared with. Just a few thoughts. Edit: The Venus-Pluto trine aspect among this generation would also work with Pluto in Virgo, Venus in Taurus. Also Pluto in Scorpio, Venus in Cancer would work for Gemini-Taurus and Gemini-Gemini couples. IP: Logged |
MoonDreamer81
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posted August 11, 2007 12:47 AM
Hmmm.....my Venus conjuncts my Gemini's Sun(-1 deg.)!Would that count,even though our Suns are supposedly "incompatible"?We do also have my Venus(7*Gemini) trine his Pluto(4*Libra)------------------
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GeminiLover75
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posted August 11, 2007 01:13 AM
Yep, that's exactly what I'm getting at. IP: Logged |
CoralFrequency
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posted August 11, 2007 03:44 AM
Put it this way, if I had an actual reason to get married, I would.. For instance, if we were planning on having kids at that time.. and I thought they might get hassled or put down because we are not married.. (though I guess other kids wouldn't know), but in this case I'd get married.Or, if we found a house we'd really like to buy and the bank would give us a higher loan as a married couple - again - I'd get married. All I'm saying is that, other than the practical considerations to me - a union between two people should be in their minds and hearts - first and foremost .. and I would trust that person 100% - otherwise I wouldn't be with them.
They could either be trustworthy or betray my trust.. But they can do this easily – after we are married also.
If a person wants to leave, then he should feel free to leave from my perspective. If I did get married and 5 yrs later I'd find out that the only reason X stayed with me is because he felt bad getting a divorce and felt compelled by that piece of paper… This would highly bother me.. At the end of the day I hope everyone is happy.. If X isn't happy with me – There's the highway and all the freedom in the world.. Plus, the fact that we would last years without that piece of paper - would strengthen my trust in the person.. and I'd feel more comfortable getting married.. because I would know them inside and out.. It would be a situation where I lived with this person daily for a very long time.. so I'd know the good and the bad and whether we can work in a marriage.
If they are untrustworthy or someone who would cheat - they would still do that if were married.. so why go through all that drama *and* a divorce.. I'd rather find out if someone is like this at de-facto stage. I'm sorry if this sounds counter-normal lol My parents got a divorce and it wasn't pretty. Generally I'm quite phobic to divorces.. IP: Logged |
kaira
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posted August 11, 2007 08:25 AM
I knew Pisceans and Librans were meant for each other. <3IP: Logged |
aqua inferno
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posted August 11, 2007 10:15 AM
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Love doesn't needs vows or parchments to exist (though if my girlfriend fancies an expensive rock on her finger she can really bet her buttons I'll get her one; Free of vows LOL!) I personally find that a non-marriage union is great for two individually charged spirits who love each other.
oh, so you've decided to be with her forever then?
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Thus its statistically flawed to write up a report on unions without even considering adding in numbers on non-marriage ones.
1. you can't say that unless you have proof.
2. some of this info is from way back - before this "new age" stuff when people would be pressured to marry. so it is accurate.
3. it's not easy finding info on unmarried couples. And what makes you think it's anymore different?Dude, I don't like commitment anymore than you do, and despise the idea of marriage. Vows seem so forced and insincere...and since I'm not religious it's really meaningless. Despite this, it's still shows more love and sincerity than "I don't want to marry" i.e. I want to keep my options open. Anyway for every happy unmarried *old* couple you can think of, I can give you more [happily married *old* couples] IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 11, 2007 10:36 AM
The whole irony is that as much as people complain about not wanting to be tied down by the vows of marraige they end up being tied down to eachother by choosing to live as a married couple does anyways. Why anyone would want to do that is beyond me but that could be my need-my-personal-space-gemini venus/virgo moon speaking. I think marraige is only bad when people enter it with false expectations, on false premises,etc. That's why I too am weary of marraige but whatever, I second Aqua when I think it seems alot more sincere and out of love when its all done for the right reasons than the unmarried one where its really just seems like people keeping their options open and not really wanting to be there for the long haul. IP: Logged |
Xodian
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posted August 11, 2007 01:45 PM
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oh, so you've decided to be with her forever then?
We are a llllllong way from answering that question definately. However the prospects look... promising (she is the only woman who I ever made a compromise upon when it came to one of my most strongest core beliefs... and I never do that.) quote:
1. you can't say that unless you have proof.
2. some of this info is from way back - before this "new age" stuff when people would be pressured to marry. so it is accurate.
3. it's not easy finding info on unmarried couples. And what makes you think it's anymore different?
Dude, I don't like commitment anymore than you do, and despise the idea of marriage. Vows seem so forced and insincere...and since I'm not religious it's really meaningless.Despite this, it's still shows more love and sincerity than "I don't want to marry" i.e. I want to keep my options open. Anyway for every happy unmarried *old* couple you can think of, I can give you more [happily married *old* couples]
1. What proof? A union is a union regardless if its a marriage or otherwise. Marriage is a more traditional and evenly accepted form of a union but that doesn't mean one can leave out others and say that it legitimately reflects the love relationships and partenrship success of all signs. 2. All the more reason to have it updated and reflect the current situational outlook we have right now. A lot of things have changed and it would really put a lot of future couple prospects out there in doubt. 3. Again this debate has turned into a versus thing when all I was saying that its foolhardy to leave out other prospective unions. Yes I am sure marriage isn't a bad thing when all the cards have been played right and no one's keeping any wild hands up their sleeves. Usually that isn't the case but yes sure there are marriage success stories (my parents being a very good example of that.) quote:
I second Aqua when I think it seems alot more sincere and out of love when its all done for the right reasons than the unmarried one where its really just seems like people keeping their options open and not really wanting to be there for the long haul.
You keep refering to that as if its a bad thing. You have to realize the extensive damage some divorce situaitons can cause... Its not pretty to say the least. Atleast with an unmarried union, a couple can easily decide upon the best course of action without forceful lawyers from either side breathing down their necks. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 11, 2007 02:21 PM
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You keep refering to that as if its a bad thing. You have to realize the extensive damage some divorce situaitons can cause... Its not pretty to say the least. Atleast with an unmarried union, a couple can easily decide upon the best course of action without forceful lawyers from either side breathing down their necks.
Errr, coming from that situation myself I think I would know how damaging a divorce could be to all parties involved thank you very much. Yes, divorces are bad but splits of unmarried unions can be just as bad if not worse because of the fact that they rarely ever last because of the reason that people are in that type of relationship to begin with. And this is especially if there was the same type of emotional attachment and the two people and add to the fact that the two people were living together. Nevermind the lawyers, you hear of people going to Small claims court arguing about who gets what and what have you. Yeah, just as bad as a married union which makes me wonder why people would want that stress as an unmarried person but each to their own I guess.*shrugs* IP: Logged |
pearlized
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posted August 11, 2007 02:45 PM
I knew i picked a winner! Pisces Female married to a Capricorn male.
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Xodian
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posted August 11, 2007 04:52 PM
Dulce:Not as bad as you're trying to make it out to be when you take into account the fact that there was a verbal agreement bewteen the two parties that the relationship in question was not contracted in anyway; They simply chose to live togather for mutual benifit. Now if abuse in any form is onvoveld then its a different story all togather. But in the larger picture, no its not as bad a divorce settlement. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 11, 2007 05:11 PM
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Not as bad as you're trying to make it out to be when you take into account the fact that there was a verbal agreement bewteen the two parties that the relationship in question was not contracted in anyway; They simply chose to live togather for mutual benifit.
And what makes you think that people who get married don't choose to live together out of mutual benefit? Anyways, yes the split of common union is just as bad for the simple fact that there was cohabitation, emotional attachment, and ESPECIALLY if there are children involved too.Are you telling me that suddenly walking out of something like that would be akin to a walk in the park? Which is why I wouldn't enter that type of thing unless it was more binding....you know, like a marriage. I wouldn't enter something like that unless I was sure it would be forever and we wouldn't have to go through that mess whether a marraige or common-law-whatever. IP: Logged |
Xodian
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posted August 11, 2007 05:16 PM
As I said, there are exceptions (which obviously include children, abusive situations, etc.) but generally there is no Pre-nup agreement signed and thus a relationship of such calibur ain't for the faint of heart  . The common law can go only as far as listing out and making a case against possible torrents (most of which do not end up being there unless there were threatning situations or a thrid party is involved in the mix i.e. children.) Again, as I said before its a more viable solution for couples who are individualistically charged yet still want to be togather; A fine balance between mutuality and individuality. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 11, 2007 05:21 PM
Remember that the famous couples named in this thread practically live like married couples (sans the piece of paper) hence I was only speaking of those type of situations, not the ones where people decide to play house for 5 minutes until they get bored.IP: Logged |
Xodian
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posted August 11, 2007 05:25 PM
Yes but still the same manner of situation applies ; Unless a torret is involved in one manner or another or a third party is in the mix. I didn't say it wouldn't be any less emotionally easy though.Keep an open mind here Dulcio . And don't worry... I ain't the type to use, abuse and vamoose (though sometimes I wish I was... It would make letting go in situations that weren't ment to be so much more easier...) IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 11, 2007 05:36 PM
If it works for you and other people that's great, personally I could never do it myself for aforementioned reasons above. But just remember, marraige does not always end in divorce if entered for the right reasons and this survey shows it. IP: Logged |
Xodian
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posted August 11, 2007 05:39 PM
To-May-To, To-ma-to . Always kept the benifits of marriage in mind; heck even seen the benifits myself. Just that... being by myself for so long has taught me the importance of self-perserverence and marriage for some reason would just interfere in such a situaiton rather then enhance it. But as you said; To each their own . IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted August 11, 2007 08:15 PM
I think I'm kinda 'take it or leave it' about the concept of marriage per se. I've been in two very serious relationships that were (and are) de facto in nature, and so they function very much so as a marriage. Having said that, I would want to be very sure about legally committing myself to someone, on a practical level because of things such as divorce settlements and so on which I tend to be a bit paranoid about - I lost out financially on one breakup and I have no desire to repeat that. HOWEVER I do like the romantic idea of marriage in that if someone proposes to you, for them to make that gesture then they must really love and want to be with you so much so, that they want to go that extra mile and publicly, with all their friends and family present, make sincere and loving promises to you... that kind of deep, sincere and committed love doesn't come along very often, and so the fact that two people want to make that symbolic union and have everyone share in that with them at the wedding and be known from then onwards as a couple who made that commitment, that to me is incredibly special and rare. So I guess, it's what marriage symbolises emotion-wise, along with the maturity of the two people to really mean it, that makes it appealing. PS: I'm a Venus in Gemini with Sag rising, so yes I do like freedom and fun in my life - but if you marry the person who's right for you, there is no problem. Marrying the person you love is not a restriction.  IP: Logged |
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posted August 11, 2007 10:18 PM
I don't care to ever get married. I personally don't agree with it. I'm not religious nor do I support the fact that not all loving couples have the same freedom to get married as I (a straight female) do. I think it's gross that our society allows 12 year-old girls to get pregnant and have as many babies they like but doesn’t allow two men who are in a committed loving relationship to get married. If I ever do get married, it will only happen for tax related reasons. I don't think getting married should been seen as the highest possible symbol of love nor should a big shiny ring. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 12, 2007 06:41 AM
I don't know if I'll ever get married knowing my virgo moon/gemini venus issues with personal space (as much as it pains me to say it *sigh*), its just if I were to choose between that and the common law/unmarried/whateveryoucall it would definitely be the former as its seems more to me like a sincere gesture of love. The latter obviously does not and on top of that, it seems very insecure to me financially and emotionally because I don't see that option lasting forever.....I'd prefer to live alone as an unmaried person w/ a long-term S.O. than be co-dependant as if we were married folk only w/ out the paper. Its a scary thought to me financially (and emotionally) but I think I'm being redundant now so I'll stop here. IP: Logged |
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