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Diandra23
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Diandra23
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Its not silly Taurus

Cause to tell the truth you just got me confused witht the question hihihi - better wait to DD answer that !

I took IQ´s and DD´s list of Solstices and just did the comparison with 2ºorb.

I took the defintions in CafeAstrology:

" How to Find the Solstice Point (Antiscia) of a Planet or Point

To find the Antiscion Point or Solstice Point of the Sun in your chart, for example, you would subtract the degrees in longitude of the Sun from 30 degrees and finding the corresponding sign from this list:

Gemini-Cancer
Leo-Taurus
Virgo-Aries
Libra-Pisces
Scorpio-Aquarius
Sagittarius-Capricorn

My Sun's position is 25 degrees Virgo 21 minutes. I find the Antiscia of my Sun by subtracting 25 degrees 21 minutes from 30 degrees (or 29 degrees 60 minutes) to arrive at 4 degrees 39 minutes. From the list above, we find that the Antiscia of the sign Virgo is always Aries. Therefore my Solstice Sun is 4 degrees Aries 39 minutes.

My Moon's natal position is 28 Pisces 25. To find the Antiscion point, I subtract this degree from 30 degrees, to arrive at 1 degree 35. The Antiscia of the sign Pisces is always Libra, so I arrive at the degree of my Solstice Moon: 1 Libra 35"

Hmm..so this is about the planet of a person;therefore thinking on sinastry i would say that for example I have a certain planet in sign and degree.Say my Venus is at 28ºVirgo and he has his Kiron at 27ºAries.
Then, his Kiron is the Antirsticia Point of my Venus.
So, my Venus is solstice conjunct his Kiron.

Well..i bet DD or IQUNK knows better hihih

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Very revealing and helpful, many thanks Iqhunk

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Hi,


" certain planet in sign and degree.Say my Venus is at 28ºVirgo and he has his Kiron at 27ºAries."
Well, actually the antiscion point of your Venus would be 02° Aries, since you have to substract your natal position from 30°.

30° - 28° = 02°
And the antiscion point of Virgo is always ARies, so it is 02° Aries and the contrascia is 02° Libra.
Any planet of 2° Aries or Libra would "mirror" your natal Venus.

For example:
My Pluto is on 09° Libra.
the Antiscion-point of Libra is Pisces, after substracting 09° from 30° I get 21°.
So the antiscion point of my natal Pluto is 21° Pisces.
Now let`s say someone had his Mars on 20° Pisces, then his Mars would be conjunct the solstice point or antiscion of my natal Pluto or like I like to write it: his Mars solstice conjunct my Pluto.
It would be interpreted like some sort of a conjunction, but it`s more sort of a hidden aspect. It`s like you can feel a connection, an attraction, but oyu don`t see why.

DD

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hi, er DD what do u mean by IQ's solstice system ? i am not aware of his take on ythis ?
can u give me a gist ?
also Diandra those r some telling solstice aspects
u r blessed , if they live up to it

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Diandra23
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Hi VenusdeIndia

IQ´S System is this one:

"I also have a different take on Solstice Points. I would use the following:

Cancer-Leo
Gemini-Virgo
Taurus-Libra
Aries-Scorpio
Pisces-Sag
Aqua-Capricorn

as opposed to what is conventionally used.

However, I have not studied this methodology. I just know that mathmematically for the solstice point theory to work, the calculations have to use the above pairings." - IQUNK

As you see, i looked up the 2 systems on comparing the Natals and Dracos just to see how it would work.

- Do ou think are interesting,really?
As im still newbie ( wishing to turn to a more insightful soul hihi) im not particularly inside the importance of having or not Solstices in sinastry and how they "appear" in the relationship itself.

Im not english so, what is the meaning of " if they live up to it?"

Thanks for the Blessing

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From cafeastrology.com

"Solstice Points/Antiscia in Synastry
Some astrologers use Solstice Points (Antiscia) in Synastry work, where the Antiscion degrees of one person's planets and points are compared to the other person's natal positions.

Look for close conjunctions and oppositions from the planets in one person's natal chart to the other person's Antiscion points.

In my records, I have some examples: the woman's solstice Venus exactly conjunct the man's Descendant in the synastry of a couple who both felt they fell in love at first sight (no other Ascendant-Descendant connections in regular synastry); a man whose Venus-Moon conjunction did nothing but square his partner's Saturn—the anticision degrees of Venus-Moon tightly conjunct her Sun/Moon midpoint; in two cases of married couples with no Sun-Moon interaspects nor Sun/Moon midpoint contacts, solstice Venus and solstice Mars, respectively made tight conjunctions to Sun/Moon midpoints; tight solstice Vertex conjunction to the Moon; exact solstice North Node conjunct Venus in synastry; a man's solstice Sun tightly conjunct a woman's Moon in a relationship in which proposal of marriage occurred within the first two weeks of meeting (they did marry)."

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Diandra23
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Thanks Tigerlily!

In fact,we do have that Venus solstice the other´s AC, as well as the Venus/Mars Mid solstice conj the other´s VX.
Also the NN solstice conj the other´s Valentine/Mars and ones VX solsctice other´s Venus.

We did loved each other at first sight and we have no sun/Moon interaspects in sinastry.

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Hi Diandra,

you have some strong solstice-connections there.
BTW did you already see that your NN is solstice conjunct his NN within 30 minutes?


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Hello,

I was thinking a bit. There have been three books I read during my childhood, which impressed me very deeply. Of course there were some other, too. But those I loved so much.
And these books were:

Don Quixote
Robin Hood
Little prince


Especially the characters of the first two and the attitude towards people and love were maybe even a little bit formative for me. I have always seen myself as some kind of "Dona Quixote", at least I often behaved that way. lol
And Robin Hood is just adorable.


However, as some of you know, there`s a musical actor that I adore quite much. And funnily, the first piece I have seen him in was "the Man of La Mancha", where he portrayed none other than Don Quixote.
Now, that I have the chance to see him again, it will be in a new musical with the title "Robin Hood". What a coincidence! I guess the next one will be the "little Prince"

But I thought that maybe the asteroids would give a clue, why I feel so drawn to these two characters, and maybe even reveal why he feels drawn to them, too.


The results were rather amazing. Natally we have strong connections to both stories.
I looked at Robinhood, Marian, Don Quixote, Dulcinea, P (his name), K (my Name).

I have natally:

Robin conjuncts my Sun (within 0°23)
Robin exactly conjuncts my DSC-ruler
Robin exactly trines my dr Venus
dr Robin exactly sextile my Karma

Marian exactly sextile my Neptune
Marian exactly sextiles my NN
MARIAN EXACTLY SEXTILE MY P (HIS NAME!) - what does that mean? He carries for me the vibration of a "Damsel in Distress"? lol
Marian opposite my dr Chiron


Quixote conjunct my Sun / Moon-mp
Quixote conjunct my Antivertex
Quixote opposite my Eros
Quixote solstice conjunct my Amor
dr Quixote solstic conjunct my Moon
dr Quixote widely conjunct my K (I identify with Quixote obviously)

Dulcinea sextile Venus
Dulcinea conjunct Uranus

In his chart:

Robin exactly trine Uranus
Robin conjunct dr Neptune
Robin solstice conjunct dr Moon
dr Robin conjunct Saturn
dr Robin solstice conjunct P (he identifies with Robin HOod?)

Marian opposite Venus
Marian opposite Karma
Marian conjunct dr Mars
Marian sextile dr Juno
Marian trine K

Quixote trine DC-ruler
Quixote trine Eros
Quixote square Karma
dr Quixote conjunct Mars

Dulcinea conjunct Moon
Dulcinea solstice conjunct Saturn
dr Culcinea trine Venus


in the synastry there are also some interesting connections:

my Robin opposite his Robin
my Robin opposite his dr Neptune
my Robin trine his Uranus
MY ROBIN CONJUNCT HIS DR KARMA
my Robin solstice conjunct his dr Moon
my Robin solstice conjunc this dr Juno
MY DR ROBIN CONJUNCT HIS SUN
- actually my Dr Robin, dr Sun and dr Mercury (DC-ruler) and my Chiron are all conjunct his Sun

his Robin opposite my Sun
his Robin opposite my Mercury, DSC-ruler
his Robin sextile my dr Venus
his Robin conjunct my dr Pholus
his dr Robin sextile my Neptune
his dr Robin sextile my NN
HIS DR ROBIN EXACTLY CONJUNCT MY MARIAN
HIS DR ROBIN EXACTLY CONJUNCT MY P

my Marian conjunct shis SAturn
my Marian squares his Karma
my Marian solstice conjunct his Moon
my marian solstice conjunct his Juno

his Marian sextile my Venus
his Marian trine my Pholus
his Marian conjunct my dr Saturn
his Marian sextile my dr K
his dr Marian trine my Moon
HIS DR MARIAN CONJUNCT MY KARMA

my Quixote sextile his Juno
my Quixote sextile his dr ERos
my Quixote conjunct his dr Ceres
hy Quixote sextile his dr Quixote
my dr Quixote opposite his Neptune
my dr Quixote solstice conjunct his NN
my dr Quixote solstice conjunct his PHolus

his Quixote trine my Mars
his Quixote exactly trine my ASC
his Quixote trine my Neptune
his Quixote trine my NN
his quixote sextile my dr Moon
his Quixote sextile my dr Karma
his dr Quixote trine my Eros
his dr Quixote trine my Vertex
his dr Quixote solstice conjunt my Pluto

my Dulcinea opposite his Venus (and exactly conjunct his Marian)
my Dulcinea solstice conjunct his Valentine
my Dulcinea conjunct his dr Mars
my Dulcinea sextile his dr Dulcinea
my dr Dulcinea solstice conjunct his Venus
my dr Dulcinea solstice conjunct his Karma

his Dulcinea square my Moon
his Dulcinea sextile my Saturn
his Dulcinea sextile my Juno
HIS DULCINEA CONJUNCT MY K
HIS DR DULCINEA CONJUNCT MY VENUS
HIS DR DULCINEA SOLSTICE CONJUNCT MY SUN

There`s also an exact opposition of his name in his chart to my name in my chart, which also conjuncts / opposites his Dulcinea.
And this opposition is solstice conjunct / opposite his dr Robinhood and my P and Marian.


The DW`s are:

Robin / Robin
Robin / Neptune
Robin / Sun

Marian / Saturn
Marian / Karma
Marian / Moon

HOw fitting! A dw on Robin - Sun and Marian - Moon for the male and female stereotypes.

Quixote / Eros (also natally)
Quixote / Quixote
Quixote / Neptune
Quixote / NN


Dulcinea / Venus - another sterotype
Dulcinea / Dulcinea


So, I guess, riddle is solved. Yes, it is in the stars, that both of us feel drawn to these kind of stories.

DD


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DD

I was thinking how odd it was that i didnt saw you here sooner

but now i know it was cause you were having one more EUREKA about you and the SM actor!

That Robin Hood story is one of my favorits too: when i was younger i just felt in love with Kevin Kostner when i saw him as Robin and since then i dreamt of a Robin Hood to myself ( yup my charming Prince stealing the rich to give to the poors hihih..well here in my country theres a lot or Mab to steal indeed...)

But really talking serious...there are no coincidences and yup its very probable that he would be making a very charming little prince who talks dearly to his Rose - another beautiful story!

Its funny that you personify the Robin to Him - maybe you are seen as the one with the higher values and higher force than him

Hmm he´s more the Dulcineia what funny-some time ago you talked about the awakening of the Feminine in you throught him ( or it was the other one?)

those stereothypes were rightly there as well as the connections between your names - me and Jonnhy also have them in sinastry

Unfortunately i dont know very well the DQuixote and Dulcinea Story.

No, i didnt saw that solstice conjunctions between our NN!!!
But how couldt that be if my NN is in 21ºGem and his NN is in 9ºCancer? ( its not a tight orb is it?)

Hmmm I saw right now another thing:my Draco NN is in 8ºCancer which will conjunct his NN in 8ºCancer!!

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Diandra,

I have been a bit busy, that`s the reason I stayed away so long, and I had to make some decisions.


"That Robin Hood story is one of my favorits too: when i was younger i just felt in love with Kevin Kostner"
I actually I never liked him in that role. But that I don`t like him in any role, I guess.
But there was a Tv-series with Michael Praed as Robin Hood. I loved that one!

"y charming little prince who talks dearly to his Rose - another beautiful story!"
Yes, and so sad in the end. I just read a greeting card with a quotation from the end of the book: "If you`ll have found consolation, and you`ll always found consolation, you`ll be glad to have known me." *sniff* For some reason it made me almost break into tears, when I read this.

"ts funny that you personify the Robin to Him - maybe you are seen as the one with the higher values and higher force than him"
Ha, yes, I`m fighting for freedom and justice and little puppies. lol
But it`s true, when I was a little girl and I was expected to play with dolls, I rather went outside and played with swords or a crossbow. Even though I never really knew how to handle that thing. lol

"Hmm he´s more the Dulcineia what funny-some time ago you talked about the awakening of the Feminine in you throught him ( or it was the other one?)"
It was the other one, indeed, but it doesn`t matter. I guess it`s a recurring theme in both of those "connections". And yes, he IS my Dulcinea, or has been it.
"I have dreemed thee too long, never seen thee or touched thee, but known thee with all of my heart. Half a prayr, half a song, thou hast always been with me, though we have been always apart." - I love the lyrics to that song.


"Unfortunately i dont know very well the DQuixote and Dulcinea Story."
The first book that ever made me cry.

And I remember the day when I got it so well. I was 9 years old, and was to be going on my first trip away from home, with my class. And since my mum knew I loved reading they gave this book to me. And the moment I touched the book, I was feeling as if I was touching my own destiny. SCary feeling for a 9 years old. But there was something so special about it. I knew it, even before opening it.
Well, it`s a little sad actually.
Don Quixote is a middle-aged man, who is reading too much, so his mind gets confused, until he can?t tell reality from fantasy anymore. He yearns back for the age of chivalry and knights and noble ladies the knights were fighting for and adoring from afar.
And one day, he just leaves his home, dresses up as a knight, and really starts LIVING OUT his dream, his fantasy. But it is more than that. HE believes this is the real world.
Of course all other around him just laugh at him, wherever he goes. Noone understands him. But wherever he goes, he does good deeds, he believes in the good in humanity. He has those high ideals, even though everyone else think of him as a fool.
And there is a lady, he adores, Dulcinea. And when he gets to a tavern, he thinks he recognizes his lady Dulcinea, for whom he did all those good deeds, in the barmaid Aldonza, who in reality isn`t much more than a common maid, even a ***** to be precise. Certainly not the epitome of virginal virtue, he sees in her. But even though she tells him that, shouts at him, gets angry with him, tries to make him see her for who she really is, a dirty barmaid, a **** with no hope, no future, just her cynisism, he insists that she indeed is his sweet lady Dulcinea.
And after a while she is getting softer, she looses a bit of her cynisism and after a fight, while he is praying to the stars, she tends to the wounds of the men, who have been involved in that fight. She tries to be good, to see the good in everyone, to change her course in life, her perception of life.
It leads her to get bruised and raped by those men, she has taken care of (horrible scene on stage I can tell you). Of course that cures her from being idealistic again. HOwever, Don Quixote, living in his own world, just keeps on adoring her and doesn`t really understand what is going on. In the end he has a fight with a knight, his nemesis, his archenemy; this knight he is fearing more than anyone else. This knight is actually himself, his reflection in the mirror (it is a deeply psychological piece; Jung would have had a field day with this one. ), it leads him to actually break down, because he faces reality. He gets sick, his heart is broken, his soul has lost its wings, nothing makes sense anymore. His world has been shattered. And then he falls really sick, phyisically sick (he is an elder man after all). He surrenders, he gives in to the world around him telling him, his world, his dream can never be true, and that just finishes him off, I dare say.
And he is lying in bed, slowly dying; not yet dead, but neither alive.
And then suddenly Aldonza, the barmaid, he has once believed to be his lady Dulcinea, forces entry (his relatives don`t want to let her), and she begs him, she implores him to believe again. To return to his faith. To remember his dream, because he doesn`t recognize her anymore. he can`t remember anything of him being Don Quixote.
But she insists, singing the words to him, he has sung to her, and suddenly he remembers. He gets up, suddenly full of life again, he asks for his armour to set out and follow his quest. But it`s too late, he has been weakened too much, and so he sinks to the ground and dies. But Aldonza, who refuses to be called by her name anymore, claims that she really is Dulcinea. If he believed her to be, then she must be a piece of Dulcinea inside her, and she chooses this way, instead of her old one. She has realized, that she has a choice, and she swears to fulfill his last will, she, instead of him, will go on his quest, and thus to her he will live forever.
*sniffs* Just writing this down, makes me almost cry again.

"No, i didnt saw that solstice conjunctions between our NN!!!
But how couldt that be if my NN is in 21ºGem and his NN is in 9ºCancer? ( its not a tight orb is it?)"
It`s an exact orb.
You got to substract 21 from 30 to get the exact solstice point.
So the solstice point of 21 Gemini is 9 Cancer.

Just picture this:

The Sun crosses 0 Cancer and moves onwards to 9° Cancer.
The solstice point has now the same distance to 0° Cancer as the Sun, but in the opposite direction.
So, if you have 0° Cancer you have to go 9° backwards, and thus you arrive at 21 Gemini.
That is the solstice point of 9° Cancer.

DD

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DD,
iT´S TRUE that story made me let go of a tear while i was reading it.
It is really very beautiful as much tht its sad. I think the greater love stories are the ones that trully have Drama like Romeo/Juliet,and thes stories of Nicholas Sparks for example.

Well i just realised that i have calculated the wrong Solstice Points - im now double embarassed!!!As I have passed some time figuring out all them in natals and dracos and now turns to be all wrong - its really sad hihihi - cause I liked a lot of those "solstive Points"
You are goin to laugh about this,know what i did?
I was with your and IQ´S tables of the Signs and just thought " Hmm a 2ºorb would mean that if my Sun is at 5ºVirgo,then if his Moon is at 6º or 7ºAries,then its the Antirsticia Point" - In fact now i know that I was making all of a mess of it!!

I had such wonderful aspects that it was dificult to believe isnt it?
Well im now goin to jump right on on them but this time in the RIGHT way DD

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Diandra.
it meant that the aspects should hopefully work as we theoretically think them to
also i have found IQ solstice points quite revealing in syanstry

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Venus de India,

yes, IQ`s mirror-degrees seem to be quite revealing in synastry; I think I will include them from now on regularly.

I just had a look at two synastries with men, who played a pivotal role in my life, and influenced my course in life significantly. I`m sure, if it hadn`t been for them, my life would have been different, and I wouldn`t be the person I am today.

Synastry 1: (I only looked at those solstice conjuncts according to IQ`s system in 2° orb)

his Sun - my Siva
his Moon - my Pluto
his Mars - my Neptune (exact)*
his Mars - my NN *
his Jupiter - my Sun
his Saturn - my Antivertex*
his Valnetine - my MC*
his Juno - my Pluto *
his Siva - my Sun
his Kaali - my Venus


how interesting! There`s a dw on Sun-Siva.


synastry 2:

his Moon - my Uranus*
his Venus - my Moon
his SAturn - my ASC*
his Saturn - my Mars
his Uranus - my DC
his Neptune - my IC
his Pluto - my SN*
his pluto - my DC
his Chiron - my ASC
his Chiron - my Neptune
his Chiron - my NN
his Juno - my Saturn*
his Eros - my Psyche*
his Psyche - my Karma
his Siva - my Kaali*
his Kaali - my Valentine*
his VAlentine - my Siva*

that means basically, that his opposition of Chiron / Saturn to Uranus / Pluto is mirrored almost exactly by my ASC and NN. Again, this is interesting.


Diandra,

don`t worry about the calculation of solstice points. It took me quite some time to wrap my brain around this concept. But it seems to work, the traditional system as well as IQ`s. But I must say IQ`s system is very appealing to me, because it combines two signs, which share the same, ancient, ruler, and thus have something in common despite their differences.

DD

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posted October 11, 2007 09:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The REAL ONES SOLSTICE

SINASTRY

DD´s System:

His Venus widely solstice my VX(4º)
His Juno is solstice my IC(2º)
hIS Fortuna is solstice my Sun(1º)
His Osiris/Isis are solstice my Neptune(0º)
His AC is solstice my Kiron(0º)
His DC is solstice my Jup(0º)-the ruler of my 3rd
His Karma is solstice my Venus/Mars Mid(3º)
His Valentine is solstice my Sun/Moon Mid(2º)
Here it is DD,the exact solstice of our NN(0º)

IQ´S System

My Moon is solstice his Sun(3º)and his Psych(3),his Adonis(2)
my Venus is solstice his Marriage(0º)
My VX is solstice his Venus/Mars Mid(0º)
My Amor widely solstice his Sun/Moon Mid(4º)
My Marriage is solstice his Wedding(1º)
My Marriage solstice his PF(1º)
My Juno solstice his Pluto(0º)


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Hi All,
Thanks for clarifying the solstice points.
Actually, DD is correct on calling the pairing I mentioned as "reflections" because the solstice point pairings are predefined.

So we have two different types of additional conjunctions. Solstice and Reflection.
The pairings I gave are from Tobey's book where he discovered the concept of "Mate Signs".

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Thanks IQ for having showed us your system.

In fact that "mirrors" really have sense cause i have found some interesting pairings in our sinastry ( as well as with DD´s Solstice points)

I hope i am not being a "pain in the ass" but:

IQ,
Did you red the previous posts where ive talked about the conections of our Union/Destiny/VX in sinastry?
Would you say that because of the patterns, could also be added as the Rule 1 the Union/AC exact conjunction?

I looked up the Dracos concerning your Reflexioned Mirrors and it shows this:

His Draco Sun reflects my Sun(2º)/Wedding(0º)
His Draco Moon reflects my D.Eros(2º)
hIS Draco Venus reflects my D.Uranus(0º)/Draco Marriage(1º)
His D. DC REFLECTS MY oSIRIS(1º)
His D. Psych reflects my D.Psyche(2º)/Venus(0º)
His D.Valentine reflects my D.Amor(3º)/Neptune(0º)
His D. uNION reflects my d.eROS(3º)
His D. KARMA reflects my 5THCUSP(1º)
His D. Osiris/Isis reflects my D.Venus/D.Atlantis(2º/1º)/Kiron(3º)
Hsi D.Eros reflects my D.AC(1º)/D.Merc(0º)
His D.POM reflects my D.AC(1º)/D.Merc(0º)
His D.Atlantis reflects my Marriage(2º)/my D.Jupiter(0º)
His D.SATURN reflects my Venus/Mars Midpoint(1º)/D.Fortuna(0º)
Hsi D.Uranus/D.Ceres reflect my D.AC(0º)
His D.Neptune reflects my PF(0º)
Hsi D. Pluto reflects my D.KAALI(1º)/KARMA(0º),Fortuna(1º), and widely my Valentine(4º)
Hsi D.VX reflects my Isis(2º) and widely my NN(5º)

My D.Sun reflects his Sun(1º) - DW
mY D.Moon reflects his POM(0º)
My D. Venus reflects his D.VX(3º)
MY D.Valentine reflects his Mercury(0º)-ruler of his3rd and his 12th hOUses
MY D.UNION reflects his SATURN(0º)
My D.KARMA reflects his Psyche(2º)/Merc(3º) adn widely, his Sun(4º)
MY D.Osiris reflects his Telephus(3º)and widely,his Isis(4º)
My D. KAALI reflects his Love(2º)/MarriagMen2(2º)/D.PLUTO(1º) -dw
My D.Psyche reflects his MarriageMen1(2º)/and widely,his NN(4º)
My D.AC reflects his Hapiness(2º),and widely,his Destiny(4º)and also , his D.POM(1º)
My D.Saturn reflects his MarriageMen2(3º)
My D.Pluto reflects his AC (3º)

His Sun/Moon Mid reflects my Amor(3º)
My Sun/Moon Mid reflects his Part Fate(1º) and conjunct his VAlentine( DD´s System)
My Venus/Mars Mid reflects his NN(2º)

What it caught my attention mostly was that as DD found, according to her system,Our NN´s are solstice conjunct by exact orb (0º)

Thankx

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posted October 12, 2007 09:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

"So we have two different types of additional conjunctions. Solstice and Reflection."
So, you would treat them like conjunctions?

Or what "vibration" or quality do they have?

Are they harmonious, because they link signs with each other, who despite their differences have something in common? (like Sag and Pisces, both being known for their idealism, and dreams greater than life?)

Or are they complimentary, because they always connect a yin aspect with a yang aspect (particularly in the Cancer - Leo-connectiont his becomes obvious)?

Or are they challenging, because they connect different elements with each other?
fire - water: Leo - Cancer, Aries - Scorpio, Sagittarius - Pisces
Air - Earth: Gemini- virgo, Libra - Taurus, Aquarius - Capricorn?

Interesting even those challenging elements have at least one thing in common:
Fire and water are both emotional signs, just the one is more extroverted, while the other is more turned inwards. (sounds complimentary to me, too)
Earth and air tend to be less emotional than fire and water, but are maybe a bit more objective than the previous two.


DD

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posted October 12, 2007 10:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

DD´S System ( Dracos)

His D.Sun solstice my D.AC widely(4º)
Hsi D. Moon solstice my D.Osiris(2º)/D.POM(2º)
hIS d. vENUS SOLSTCIcE MY Sun/Moon Mid(0º)
His D. AC solstice my D.Uranus(1º)
HIS D.DC solstice my D.Kiron(0º)and widely,my Amor(4º)
Hsi D. Psych solstice my Isis(0º)
His D.Valentine solstice my Pluto(0º)
His D. Amor solstice widely my Union/Destiny(3º)
Hsi D. Union solstice my D.juno widely(4º)
His D. Karma solstice my Marriage(0º)
Hsi D Karma solstice my Jupiter(0º)
Hsi D. Kaali solstice my VENUS/MARS Mid(1º)
His D.Siva solstice my Osiris(1º)
Hsi D. Eros solstice my D.Union(2º)/my Osiris(3º)
His D. POM solstice my D.Union(2º)/my Osiris(3º)
His D.Saturn solstice my PF(1º)and widely,my NN(5º)
Hsi D. Pluto solstice my PF(2º)

My D.Union is solstice his D.Uranus/D.Ceres(0º)his Hapiness(3º)and widely, his Destiny(4º)
My D.Osiris solstice widely,his Amor(4º) and his Jupiter(1º)
My D.Isis solstice his D.Osiris(1º) and D.Isis(0º)
My D.AC solstice his Horus(0º)
My D. Plutro solstice his kiron(2º)
My D. VX SOLStice his Mars(2º)and solstice his SUN/MOON MID(3º)
My D. Juno solstice his Sappro(2º)

Also found , regarding a Part Of Reincarnation:

His Reincarnation:

Conjuncts my Draco Juno(2º)
Oposes my Mars(0º),Valentine(0º),Karma(3º)and widely,my Fortuna(4º),my Draco Saturn(2º) and my Draco Kaali(3º)
Trines my D.Venus(3º)

My Reincarnation

Conjunts his AC(1º),his Draco Pallas(1º)
Oposes his Draco Karma(1º),his DSC(1º)
Trines his D.Atlantis(1º)

Hsi Reincarnation

Solstice my D.Siva(4º)
Mirrors my D.VX(2º)

My Reincarnation

Solstice his Draco Amor(2º)
Mirrors his Draco Jup(2º)

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posted October 15, 2007 07:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive always had this doubt: whic~h arabic parts are the ones more "fiable"?

I mean,some may indeed have major influence than others and create a more powerfull "force" that impulls,than others.

For example: there are 3 arabics for marriage - i dont know what to use regarding the one that may be more important.

Or if Part of Reincarnation shows in our natals specific aspects that points to past live or if in sinastry, shows us how or with who we shared previous lifes?

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posted October 15, 2007 09:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here r my solstice aspects as per IQ 's system
my solstice isis conj his osiris
his solstice kaali opp my siva!!!
his s siva conj my Asc
my s psyche conj his Asc.
his s Pluto on my venus-chiron opp his s. valentine
his s moon-mars on my uranus
his s. juno conj my valentine
my s. juno conj his draco sun
my s. Tnode conj his draco Asc
my draco s. moon conj his natal eros conj siva
these r at the top of my head, will add more later

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Venus

Those seem wonderful Reflections

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