posted October 29, 2007 09:35 AM              

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Su/Mo - The inner marriage of yin & yang. At-oneness with self.

Su/MC - The perceived goal or object of life. Individuality. Father image.

Mo/MC - How one nurtures oneself and the world. Mother image.

ASC/MC - Expressing our image very powerfully in the world.

Su/ASC - Sense of self confidence and creativity.

Ve/Ma - Passion, sexual drive. Desire. "Carnal juices".

Su/Ma - Essence of masculinity. Action, aggressiveness. "Ideal man"

Mo/Ve - Essence of femininity. Devotion, tenderness, gentleness. "Ideal woman"

Ve/MC - "The Romantic Ideal." Very strong attraction.

Ve/Vx - Compulsive, powerful feelings of physical attraction.

Pl/Vx - A deeply transformative/destructive, obsessive encounter. Possible cruelty, or emotional manipulation. Karmic.

Node/Vx - Similar to the above, but without the manipulative element. A feeling of having known each other before. Inescapable associations. Fateful unions.

And of course Eros/Psyche from Kim's site: Desire to merge, sexual energy is intense, deep and emotive. Transformation whether taboo or not."""

add these i came up with

Node/Asteroid Karma
Pluto / Asteroid Karma
Isis/Osiris
Valentine/Pluto
Eros/Pluto

posted October 29, 2007 09:44 AM              

her Karma/Plu = his Chiron
his ''' ''' = her Saturn
her Isi/Osi = his Pluto
his Isi/Osi = her vertex
Her Val/Plu = His S.Node
his Val/Plu = her Sun, Moon, Amor !!!
her Eros/Plu = His Chiron
His Ero/Plu = Her Siva
her Siva/Plu = his vertex
his Siva/Plu = her Siva
her Node/Karma= his Saturn
his Node/Karma= her parvati
her Ver/Karma = his venus
his ver/Karma = her Plu

posted October 29, 2007 01:27 PM              

fascinating topic!

I have been looking at three synastries (only conjunctions / oppositions within 2° - or is that too wide?):

Synastry with A

my Sun / MC = his SN (0)
my Sun / ASC = his MErcury (1) and Osiris (1,5)
my Sun / Mars = his MErcury (0) and Osiris (0,5)
my Venus / Vertex = his Valentine (0,5)
my Node / Vertex = his Kaali (1,5)
my Pluto / Karma = his Juno (1)
my Sun / Venus = his Sun (1)
my Venus / Pluto = his Neptune (0)
my Siva / Pluto = his MOon (1)

his Sun / Moon = my black moon lilith (0)
his Venus / Mars = my Valentine (2)
his NOde / Karma = my Lilith (1)
his pLuto / Karma = my Uranus (2)
his Isis / Osiris = my NN and Neptune (1,5)
his Sun / Venus = my Venus (0)
his Venus / Pluto = my Siva (1)
his Siva / Kaali = my Sun (1) and Mercury (0)
his Pluto / Kaali = my Sun (0) and Mercury (1)

Synastry with P:

my ASC / MC = his Venus (2) and Karma (2)
my Venus / MC = his Moon (1)
my pluto / Vertex = his Isis (1) and Psyche (2)
my Eros / Psyche = his Karma (0)
my VAlentine / PLuto = his Venus (1)
my Eros / Pluto = his Psyche (2)
my Kaali / Pluto = his Saturn (1)

his Sun / Mars = my IC (1)
his Node / Karma = my Sun (0,5) and Mercury (1,5)
his Pluto / Karma = my Venus (2)
his Isis / Osiris = my Lilith (1)
his Valentine / Pluto = my Saturn (0)
his Venus / Pluto = my Venus (0), Isis (2) and Osiris (2)
his Siva / Kaali = my Lilith (0)
his Siva / Pluto = my Mars (0) and ASC (2)
his Kaali / Pluto = my Amor (0)

Synastry with J:

my Moon / MC = his Venus (2) and ASC (2)
my Sun / ASC = his Saturn (1)
my Venus / mars = his MErcury (0) and Karma (0)
my Sun / Mars = his Saturn (0)
my Venus / Vertex = his Chiron (0,5)
my Pluto / Karma = his Isis (0)
my Isis / Osiris = his Sun (0)
my Siva / Pluto = his MOon (1)
my Kaali / Pluto = his Siva (2)

his Sun / Moon = my Mars (2) and Amor (1)
his Moon / MC = my Chiron (2)
his Sun / ASC = my Sun (2,5) and Mercury (1,5)
his Venus / mars = my Mars (1) and ASC (1)
his Sun / Mars = my Karma (2,5)
his Venus / Vertex = my MC (1)
his pluto / Vertex = my Lilith (0)
his Node / Vertex = my Chiron (0)
his Eros / Psyche = my Saturn (2)
his NOde / Karma = my Venus (2,5)
his Eros / Pluto = my Sun (1) and Mercury (2)
his Sun / Venus = my Sun (1) and MErcury (0)
his Siva / Pluto = my Mars (2) and ASC (0)
his Vertex / Karma = my MC (2)

Hmm, I wonder what it means that my Lilith triggers exact midpoints in every of those cases.

posted October 29, 2007 03:30 PM            

My Sun/Moon conjuncts his Draconic Cupido/Psyche midpoint

My Moon/MC conjuncts his ASC/DSC axis

My ASC/MC conjuncts his Sun/Venus midpoint and his Valentine

My Venus/Mars conjuncts his Draconic Cupido/Psyche midpoint

My Sun/Mars conjuncts his Eros/Psyche midpoint

My Moon/Venus conjuncts his Draconic Venus/Mars midpoint

My Venus/MC conjuncts his Chiron, Eris and DNA

My Venus/Vertex conjuncts his Reiki and Pholus

My Pluto/Vertex conjuncts his Union and Draconic Valentine

My NNode/Vertex conjuncts his Mars, Neptune, Lilith, and Draconic Eros

My Eros/Psyche conjuncts his Union, Draconic Valentine, and Draconic Mercury

My NNode/Karma conjuncts his ASC/DSC axis and his ASC/MC midpoint

My Isis/Osiris conjuncts his Draconic Sun/Moon midpoint and ASC/DSC axis

Also worth noting:

My Venus/Saturn conjuncts his Sun/Venus midpoint

My Sun/NNode midpoint conjuncts his Vertex

My Cupido/Psyche midpoint conjuncts his Draconic Moon

My Venus/Pluto conjuncts his Draconic Venus

posted October 30, 2007 05:25 PM              

Great that oyou have posted the meanings of Midpoints.

Hi all girls and guys also

DD had already looked upon me and my bf´s Midpoints and how they would trigger conections in each other - she made a wonderful work on that, and now with my new ASC some Midpoints turn out to be some diferent ( the ones that have my AC)

But why only conj/opos? I thought that also squares activated the Mids.

Nevertheless,as asked,im posting here ours and see

is in 2ºorb right?

His Sun/MO skuares my D.Jup(1),D.Uran(2) and D.kiron(0).Trines my Karma/Valenti Mid(1),my Valentine(1),my Karma(2),my Mars(1).

His Ven/Ma conjunt my Saturn(1).Oposes my POM(0),and widely my Juno(3). Trines my D.Moon(1).

His Eros/Psyche oposes my Juno(2), D.Union(1). Trines my D.ASC(2). Skuares my D.Isis(0) and D.Saturn(2) and D.Pluto(2)

His Isis/Osiris trine my Sun(1),Juno(1),D.union(2). Skuares my D.IC(2),D.Isis(1)D.Nept(1)

His Sun/Venus conjunct my AC(0º)
His Sun/Venus conjunct my Merc(0), oposes my VX(0).Trines my Kiron(2).

His Moon/Mars oposes my Sun/Moon Mid(3) and my D.AC(3).Trines my Osiris(1)

His Sun/Mars conjuncts my D Union(2),my Juno(1).trines my Sun(1),

His MO/VE oposes my D Venus(0)and my Isis/Osiris Midpoint
.Trines my D.Isis(1),my D Saturn(1),my D Pluto(1)my D Adonis(2). Trines widely my Mars/Vaentine (3).Skuares my Sun(1).

His Sun/AC oposes my D Moon(2).

His NN/KARMA conj my D Venus(1)and my Isis/Osiris Mid.oposes my Uranus(2).

His Pl/karma conj my D.Pl/D.Anteros(3), D.Adonis(3). Trines my Marriage1(0),Jup(0)

His Valent/Pl conj my Ve/MA Mid(1).Oposes my D Osiris(0),D Sapprho(2).

His Eros/Pl oposes my Osiris(1).Trines my D kiron(2) and my Amor(2).

His Sun/MC conj my D moon(3) and my Eros(1).Trines my D Kiron(1).

His MO/MC conj my Amor(1).Trines my Sun/MO Mid(1)

His AC/MC conj my D Venus(1).Oposes my Uranus(1).

His Ven/MC conj my D ASC(3)and my D Moon(3)

His Ven/VX oposes my D Union(3),my Juno(0)

posted October 30, 2007 05:42 PM              

oh, now i see you used it too..

posted October 30, 2007 05:59 PM              

You mentioned Pluto/Karma midpoint as being important, what do you think about having Pluto conjunct Karma (1)? (it`s in my natal chart)

posted October 30, 2007 06:44 PM              

Sun/MO conj his Amor/Karma(3)and his SUN/MC Mid(1)and his D Saturn(1).oposes his Mo/Ma(2).Trines his D Union(0).

Ve/Ma conj his Hapiness(0).Oposes his D kiron(2).

Eros/Psych conj his Amor(0) and D Nept(0).Oposes his Mo/Mc Mid(2).Skuares his VX(1),Valentine(1).

Isis/Osiris conj his D Amor(0), and his AC/MC Mid(1).Oposes his Mars(1).

Sun/Ven conj his D VX(2)and his Sun/AC MID(0).Oposes his D Valentine(2).Trines his Osiris(2).Skuares his POM(2).

MO/MA conj his Marriage2(0).Trines his Ve/Ma Mid(0),his Part Wedding(0),D Vesta(0)

SUN/MA conj his Destiny(3) and his D Eros(2).

MO/VE conj his Sun/MC(1),D Saturn(3),Amor/Karma Mid(1).Trines his Jup(1).Skuares his Psych(1),Lovers(1)

SUN/AC conj his D Juno(1). Oposes his MO/MC MiD(2).

NN/karma conj his Part Fate(2),Hapiness(2).Oposes his Moon(0).Trines his D ASC(2).Skures his D Union(3)

Pl/Karma conj his D DC(1), Saturn(2). Trines his Moon(3).

Valent/Pl conj his D Juno(0). Oposes his Mo/MC(3).Skaures his D Venus(3).

Eros/Pl conj his D VX(0),Sun/AC mID(2).oPOSES His D Valentine(2),Wedding(1).

Sun/MC skuares his Ve/Ma(2),Sun/Ma(2).Trines his POM(3)

Mo/MC conj his Valentine(3).Oposes his SUN/MOON MID(0),

AC/MC conj his Part Fate(0). Oposes his Moon(2).Skuares his D Union(1).

VEN/MC CONJUNCT HIS AC(1)and his Amor/VALENTINE MID(1).Oposes his DRACO KARMA!.. Trines his INferior Sun/Ven Conj(1). Skuares his Pluto(3)

Ven/VX CONJ exaclty his Valentine(0) and his Draco Venus(2). Oposes his Sun/Moon Mid(3).

NN/VX conj his D Kaali(1).conj his Moon/AC Mid(3).Conj his Karma(3). Oposes his D Union(3),his Ven/Uranus Mid(1) and his Jup(0).

posted October 31, 2007 10:57 AM              

Since IQ said that midpoints were also very revealing that i tried to see the interconnections - really they make much sense indeed

For example me and my bf have a lot of atraction to each other but we dont have in sintarsy the venus/pluto or venus/mars trine or conj--but the ven/mar Mid are activated!

And then,also the ones that concern Destiny and powerfull feelings like love are also activated ;

Sun/Mo and the beautiful sun/ac conj ac THat points all the fateful atraction

posted October 31, 2007 11:07 AM              

Lots of Karma..sigh...

posted October 31, 2007 12:36 PM            

On my wedding day transiting Sun was conjunct my Sun/N Node midpoint.

(Transiting Moon was conjunct my Solstice Venus.)

Transiting Mercury was conjunct my ASC/Venus midpoint (and my Saturn).

Transiting Venus was conjunct my Venus/MC midpoint.

Transiting Mars was conjunct my Sun/Venus midpoint (and my Part of Marriage).

Transiting Jupiter was conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint and my Venus/Mars midpoint (and my Solstice Saturn).

Transiting Uranus was conjunct my Venus/Vertex midpoint (and my N Node, my Solstice Jupiter, and my Solstice Cupido/Psyche midpoint).

Transiting Neptune was conjunct my Valentine/Cupido midpoint (and my ASC).

Transiting Pluto was conjunct my Sun/Saturn midpoint.

(Transiting True Node was conjunct my IC and my Draconic Juno.)

Transiting Chiron was conjunct my Sun/Mars midpoint.

Transiting Juno was conjunct my Valentine/Pluto midpoint (and my Solstice ASC).

posted October 31, 2007 05:04 PM              

one thing i wanted to say, is i accidently checked vertex/mc instead of venus/mc and with me and my guy, his is conjuncting my asc (and venus/neptune midpoint) exactly, while mine is conjuncting his psyche exactly! so there might be something to that one.

posted November 01, 2007 01:41 AM              

You are absolutely correct, it should work on her Pluto and his Venus too. I am normally a male chauvinist so I associate Pluto with the man and Venus with the girl
Calculation Example:
If Venus of the girl is 11 Libra and Pluto of the guy is 7 Leo, the NEARER midpoint is 64/2 or 32 degrees from 7 Leo towards 11 Libra or 9 degrees Virgo.

If the Moon is in 9 Virgo at the time of meeting, things could go BOING with Cupid emptying his quiver, shooting them all over, IF they are destined to be soul mates/twin souls.
He may or may not be your Twin Self but 100% definitely a Soul Mate with whom you will be sexually supercharged.
Your Asteroid EROS is in exact midpoint of your Venus and his Pluto. His EROS is exactly between your EROS and your Pluto.
Your Venus is opposed to midpoint of His Venus and His Pluto.
Total sexual mega attraction, more of you to him than him to you.
If you were a guy and he was a girl, you would have got an instant woodie during the meeting.

The Transit Moon opposed your Natal moon during the meeting and this triggered the emotional reactions on top of the sexual mega attraction.
He would have been aroused too but he may have controlled it. Transit Moon was exactly square his Eros on that fateful day.
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posted November 01, 2007 11:01 AM              

that is very fascinating, what IQ wrote.

"Calculation Example:
If Venus of the girl is 11 Libra and Pluto of the guy is 7 Leo, the NEARER midpoint is 64/2 or 32 degrees from 7 Leo towards 11 Libra or 9 degrees Virgo."
That surprised me. So is it okay to look at "mixed" midpoints like her Venus and his Pluto, instead of just looking at his Venus and his Pluto in aspect to her planets? Do you know what I mean?

"Total sexual mega attraction, more of you to him than him to you."
Is the one with the personal planets involved like Venus and Eros the more attracted?

Do I look only at midpoint-aspects to Venus, Mars, Pluto and Eros or can I look to other planets, too?

Well, I gave those three synastries with P, A and J a closer look in the light of those new considerations.

With P:

his Venus / Pluto opposes my Venus (0)
his Venus / Mars opposes my Pluto (3) too wide?
his Venus / my Pluto conjunct my Eros (0)
his Pluto / my Venus oposes his Venus (3)
his Eros / my Pluto conjunct my Venus (2)

Other midpoint-aspects are:
his Venus / Eros conjunct my Chiron (0)
my Venus / Pluto opposes his Moon (3)
my Venus / Pluto opposes his Juno (1)
my Venus / Eros opposes his Sun (3)
his Venus / my Pluto conjunct my Vertex (0)
his Venus / my Eros conjunct my SN (2,5)
his Venus / my Mars conjunct my Moon (2,5)
his pLuto / my Venus opposes my PoM (1)
his pluto / my Venus opposes his Karma (1)
his Pluto / my Eros conjunct his NN (1,5)
his Pluto / my Eros opposes my Moon (2,5)

There seems to be some Venus-Pluto-action going on, but it`s not really a surprise, since we have a Grand Trine involving a Venus-Pluto-trine.

But who would be the most affected in this case?

With A:

his Venus / Eros conjunct my Venus (2,5)
his Eros / my Venus conjunct my Venus (0)
his Eros / my Venus conjunct his Eros (0)

his Venus / mars conjunct my Valentine (2)
my Venus / Pluto conjunct his NEptune (0)
my Venus / Eros opposite his Valentine (0)
his Venus / my Mars conjunct my Sun (3)
his Venus / my Pluto conjunct my Valentine (2)
his Venus / my Pluto conjunct his Neptune (2)
his Mars / my Venus conjunct his Neptune (0)
his Mars / my Venus conjunct his SN (1,5)
his Eros / my Pluto conjunct his Neptune (0)

With J:

his Venus / mars conjunct my Mars (1)

his Venus / mars conjunct my ASC (1)
his Venus / Pluto opposes my PoM (1)
his Pluto / Eros conjunct my Sun (2)
my Venus / Mars conjunct his Karma (0)
my Venus / Eros opposes his Chiron (0)
his Venus / my Mars conjunct my NN (1)
his Venus / my Mars conjunct my ASC (2)
his Venus / my Mars conjunct his ASC (0)
his Mars / my Venus opposes my Karma (1,5)
his Mars / my Venus oposes his Saturn (1,5)
his Mars / my Venus conjunct his Karma (2,5)

It seems in all three cases there is one midpoint dominant.
with P: Venus-Pluto
with A: Venus-Eros
with J: Venus-Mars

hmm.

What would you say, which of those midpoint-synastries is the strongest?

posted November 01, 2007 11:05 AM              

you´re not really surprised, are you?
If anything those strong midpoints suggest that there is more to the midpoint-concept and that is worth of further investigation.
You`ve already known that your parents are soulmates, and those midpoints just further prove the fact.

"is su/mo con mom's sun n moon !!!"
I could become green with envy. just kidding
But it`s a great aspect.

mom's ve/ma conj dad's Val
dad's ve/ma conj mom's Val!!! A Double Whammy midpoint
Oh wow! I think dw-midpoints are very very strong.

posted June 07, 2011 12:49 PM            

quote:

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Ve/Vx - Compulsive, powerful feelings of physical attraction.

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Wow.. I find this to be extremely accurate.. That seems to be the way I feel for the guy whose Venus conjs my Venus/Vertex mp (2°). Nothing BUT obsessive and compulsive. There's really nothing more to it. I find him to be the most beautiful person in the world, ideal even. Yet, I'm not interested in him romantically. Nothing good going on in our synastry either, it's pretty much dookie besides his Moon conj my DC, and a Eros and Psyche conjuntion.

posted June 07, 2011 09:32 PM            

I have Sun.Moon,Merc all conjunct then wide conjunt to Mars...

Even my Venus.Verex midpoint is on my Leo Stelliumm..

Anyone that hits my leo stellium hits most of my midpoints...