posted November 23, 2007 08:34 PM            

Bill Gates natal chart

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted November 23, 2007 10:10 PM            

Now I know my fortune is coming!

posted November 23, 2007 10:45 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted November 23, 2007 10:58 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted November 23, 2007 11:18 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted November 23, 2007 11:28 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted November 24, 2007 02:59 AM            

1. Venus in the 11th House.

2. Something called a Doryphory, which I am still trying to figure out, which to me seems to be a well aspected stellium with a Sun or Moon (a luminary) in the 2nd House for example.

Then I found this on: http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/subhalakshmi.htm

quote:

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Main features of the horoscope
1. Lagna is Libra. Two malefic planets afflict the lagna lord
Venus placed in the 10th house with yogkaraka Saturn (4th
and 5th lord) and Ketu.

2. Second lord Mars in lagna is aspected by Moon and Jupiter. Association of the 2nd lord with Jupiter in a kendra makes a person very prosperous. Here, the association of the 10th lord Moon also exists and this makes the even more person very prosperous.

3. Third lord Jupiter (retrograde) is in the 7th house with the 10th lord Moon, a friendly house and aspected by Mars and Saturn. Third lord associated with a benefic in a kendra, the person enjoys the company of relatives but the aspect of malefic planets is not good.

4. Fourth and fifth lord Saturn is placed in 10th house with the lagna lord Venus and Ketu. Association of 4th and 5th lord with the lagna lord in a kendra gives comforts, property, success, name and fame but the association of a malefic planet Ketu also foretells destruction or problems.

5. Sixth lord Jupiter in the 7th house with the Moon aspected by Saturn and Mars. 7th lord Mars is in the lagna aspected by Jupiter and the Moon.6. Eighth lord Venus is placed in the 10th with Saturn and Ketu. Eighth house is aspected by Mars, 2nd and 7th lord.

7. Ninth and 12th lord Mercury is exalted in the 12th house with the 11th lord Sun and aspected by Saturn. The lord of the 9th in the 12th house gives the tendency for philanthropic action. This combination shows that religious inclinations and association with great mystics.

8. Tenth lord Moon is in the 7th with Jupiter aspected by Mars and Saturn. The association of Jupiter with Moon shows an excellent position but the aspect of Saturn and Mars is not good.

9. Eleventh lord Sun is placed in the 12th house with an exalted 9th lord, Mercury and aspected by the 4th and 5th lord Saturn. The lord of gain in the 12th means expenditure for good causes.

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also... there are a lot of famous people who aren't billionaires and billionaires who aren't famous, even though fame and money do go hand in hand... I say this because there are aspects which indicate fame, and fame can be used as a platform towards wealth...

Also, one can inherit money and not earn it through career...

For example:

quote:

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Key Factors to Look For in the Natal Chart For Determining Money Potential:

1.

The condition of the 2nd house for one's personal assets: planets found within the house and their aspects; the ruler of the second house and its position by sign, house and aspect; and the sign on the cusp of the second house.
2.

The condition of the 8th house for one's personal assets accumulated through partnership and/or marriage: planets found within the house and their aspects; the ruler of the eighth house and its position by sign, house and aspect; and the sign on the cusp of the eighth house.
3.

The condition of the 11th house for one's personal assets accumulated through business and career: planets found within the house and their aspects; the ruler of the eleventh house and its position by sign, house and aspect; and the sign on the cusp of the eleventh house.
4.

The condition of Venus, the natural ruler of the second house, and Jupiter, the planet of expansion. Also, look for where the signs Taurus and Sagittarius are found in the chart.
5.

The chart ruler (ruler of the Ascendant) and its relationship to the rulers of the second and eighth houses. Also take note of any planets found in the second and eighth houses.
6.

The condition of Saturn and Mars in the chart, in order to determine the native's drive and ambition. On their own, these factors do not show money potential, but they are contributing factors to accumulating wealth.

The second house rules possessions and attitudes towards money. The eighth house rules money accumulated through partnership or marriage. The eleventh house rules money accumulated through business and career.

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the above from cafeastrology: http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/astrology_of_money_wealth.html

Oprah's has this which indicates money apparently:

quote:

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Oprah Winfrey's Venus (found in the second house on the cusp) conjuncts her Sun, sextiles her Moon, trines Jupiter, squares Saturn, quincunxes her Ascendant, and trines her Midheaven. Her Sun, Venus, and Mercury occupy her second house, and the second house ruler (Uranus) trines Mars and squares Neptune. Interestingly, her fifth, eighth, and tenth house rulers are the Sun and Venus, which are conjunct each other in the second house, and conjunct the second house cusp.

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posted November 24, 2007 03:01 AM              

But they also say, that it`s very helpful to have an applying progression to actually reach that kind of wealth.
For example: I have the Jupiter-Pluto-quinkunx, but it was already separating at my birth, so no huge amounts of money for me I guess.

My opinion on this:
Jupiter / Pluto as well as Jupiter / Saturn are quite generational aspects, and imo a single aspect doesn`t show if you are gonna be rich or not. You have to take the rest into account, too.
Also, maybe it`s also a matter of definition: What means being rich to you?
Being a billionaire?
Always having enough money to indulge in your hobbies (that would be my idea of being rich)?

And those are only the material definitions of "wealth", but actually the other "wealth", being rich through love, friendship, ideas, health and spirituality matters more to me.

posted November 24, 2007 12:33 PM            

We can look at money in terms of income and inheritance: 2nd and 8th houses then.

Wealth - positive Uranus, Neptune and Pluto aspects to Venus and/or Jupiter.

With Uranus it is sudden and unexpected money, like lottery.
With Neptune it is accumulated money, faith and belief that you will be rich enable you to manifets money.
With Pluto it is inherited money or made with help of other people's money.

Also, Jupiter trine Saturn can bring weath.

And of course, there are simply lucky people with Venus/Jupiter aspect. But of course, very few of them use their potential.

posted December 09, 2007 12:05 PM              

What do you all think?
Any truth in that?
http://www.themetaarts.com/archives/200304/basilfearington.html http://www.themetaarts.com/archives/200305/basilfearington.html

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Leo Sun, Aquarius Moon, Libra Ascendent.

posted December 09, 2007 12:27 PM              

I thought Libra is also an AP? Not? AP is not only zero aries but zero of all cardinal point?

The article states that there are lots more... but all focusing on mainly jupiter,pluto or their midpoint.

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Leo Sun, Aquarius Moon, Libra Ascendent.

posted December 09, 2007 01:08 PM            

I have a client who is a member of one of the most historically wealthy families in the U.S. She doesn't have a lot of her own personal money, she actually is an artist who has great difficulty with her finances dwindling to nothing very often, but she has the Jupiter/Pluto midpoint at the Aries Point. Many wealthy people have a strong focus at the Jupiter/Pluto, Jupiter/Uranus, Jupiter/Venus and Jupiter/Sun midpoints.

For example: Madonna and Michael Jackson both have the Jupiter/Pluto midpoint at the Aries Point of 0 degrees Libra.

ASC=Jupiter/PLuto
Sun=Jupiter/Pluto
Moon=Jupiter/Pluto

Those are strong measurements for wealth and resourcefulness.

Oprah Winfrey has some planet or point configured with her Jupiter/Uranus midpoint suggesting her tremendous wealth. (This is a later edit: Oprah Winfrey has Uranus=Jupiter/Pluto, that's her wealth through ideas, humanitarian outreach, media).

I'm not a millionaire or billionaire but so far I've been able to meet my needs somewhat comfortably. I have Jupiter-Uranus sextile, I have a wide Jupiter-Pluto sextile, ordinarily I wouldn't count it if I read it in someone's chart, but a girl can dream, can't she?

When transiting Pluto opposed my Sun/Jupiter midpoint, I received a small inheritance and a few financial windfalls. It happened during the first transit, then the retrograde and then the last transit again.

So yeah, I'm curious as to what will happen with the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction on December 11th, at the Galactic Center. It's also opposing my Venus/Jupiter midpoint.

Geocosmic Valentine

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"Everybody is a star!"

posted December 09, 2007 01:32 PM              

thank you for the information !

I checked those too and...

Sun/Jupiter = Mercury
Venus/Jupiter = NN
Jupiter/Uranus = Pluto

Actually i never wanted to be wealthy, a little more than i have now would suffice
Love is the main concern in my life afterall