posted December 15, 2007 12:30 PM            

(I chuckle when I write your name, I think it's cute )
Here's a good place to start:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/venusreturn.html

There are threads here at LL too, if you google Lindaland Venus Return they should probably come up..... I need to leave right now, but if no one else bumps/links them I'll pull them up when I get back.

posted December 15, 2007 12:36 PM              

the Venus-return is the chart for the moment the transiting Venus is exactly conjunct your natal Venus.
I`m gonna have my next Venus-return next january, when transiting Venus will be on 6°07 Capricorn as my natal Venus. I then erect a chart for that exact moment, and that chart is the Venus-Returnchart and is valid until Transit Venus will be conjunct my natal Venus the next time; usually this Venus-Return-chart lasts a bit more than a year. My last Venus-return had been on december 16th last year, so in my case this Venus-return chart lasted for 1 year, 1 month and 2 weeks.

Unfortunately I donīt know how to interprete Return-charts.

posted December 15, 2007 12:51 PM              

Also, here is my Venus Return - chart and my Venus-Return-synastry chart with my natal chart.

posted December 15, 2007 01:16 PM              

- go to astro.com, look at your natal chart and see where your Venus is located natally

- then look at the transits for this year; see when Transit Venus will be exactly conjunct your natal Venus (degree and minute, like in my case 6 degrees, 7 minutes and 33 seconds in Capricorn)

- now draw up a chart for that exact time (in my case 29th january next year at 8:43 a.m.) - that would be my Venus-Return-chart.

posted December 15, 2007 01:32 PM              

your Venus return would be on 17th january 2008 at 6:45 a.m. (I used Tampa as birth-place, is that right?).
The Venus return chart would indicate all matters surrounding love, art, relationships and other social connections. And apparently if there are some planets in the 1st, 4th, 7th or 10th house, it is considered being an important year for relationships.

You`re having Sun, Mercury, Chiron and Neptune in the 1st house and Moon in the 4th house.

The ruler of the Capricorn-asc, is Saturn and falls into the 8th house of your return-chart. Maybe there will be some deep transformational stuff going on relationship-wise.
Saturn also trines Jupiter, which falls in the return chart`s 12th house and rules the 12th house. Mmh, maybe you get help from an invisible, maybe even spiritual source?
Something like being guided?

Venus herself is on the cusp of the 12th house, using Placidus-houses, so maybe a secret affair? Or very deep spiritual stuff reaching into relationships?
Venus also sextiles Neptune in the 1st house- more guidance? Or is it just a sign of diving into a dreamworld?
Venus is also opposite Mars in Gemini in the 6th house, maybe that is the hook, that pulls you back into the real world again?
Of course Mars-Venus-opposition could indicate some passionate exchange, but on the cusp of the 12th - 6th house maybe very much connected to a spiritual side.

Ah I donīt know, I`m not good in interpreting Return charts.

I don`t know why my chart is not showing up on your computer. I can see it okay.

posted December 15, 2007 02:02 PM            

I am littlebit confused with my VR chart for next year. I have deep and long lasting relationship transits and progressions, possible getting married, but It is ridicoulus now, because I am alone.

Can you look at it? WHat you see? Somebody said there is Cap woman "in the game". Again, omg...can't escape them ))))

26th December, 1976, 6:15 AM, Zagreb, Croatia

Venus is on her point somewhere around 6th March 2008.

posted December 15, 2007 02:23 PM              

yip, it definitely is a big difference, Bombay or Tampa.

Using Bombay your Venus-return falls onto the 17th january 2008, but on 5:15 p.m., which gives your Return-chart a 12°-Cancer-ascendant.
This puts also your Return-Sun in the 7th house, and gives you a packed 8th house with Mercury, Neptune, Chiron and NN there.

Of course all of this changes the interpretation a lot.

Cancer ASC- probably means you will be very vulnerable when it comes to relationships next year, very emotional, caring, perhaps on the moody side at times.
ASC-ruler Moon is in Taurus in 11th house; seems the area of friendship will be highlighted, but the ASC in Cancer and the ASC-ruler in Taurus seem to imply very deep and lasting feelings surrounding those friendships. Or well, in some interpretations it also sais, the 11th house is the house of "love received".
But the Moon unfortunaly squares Neptune in the 8th house. Probably you will tend to not see people as they really are and will be in danger of getting deceived or deceiving yourself. Illusions will be an issue, but also the possibility to delve really deep into spiritual stuff (Neptune in 8th house conjunct Mercury and Chiron).
The Mercury-Chiron conjunction in 8th house is exact, and Mercury rules 3rd and 12th house, so maybe here is some healing indicated, probably through talking about spiritual stuff.

Venus herself falls into the 6th house and rules 11th and 4th house. Maybe you can combine friendship and family next year, probably in your everyday life (6th house)?

Regarding my own Venus-return charts, I noticed something.
Last year the return chart`s DSC was conjunct someone elses`Moon.
In next year`s return chart my Moon is opposite this someone`s Moon.
And his return chart`s ASC will be conjunct my natal Mars, and his return Moon will be opposite my natal Karma, and his return`s Mars will be opposite my natal Sun and Mercury.

I wonder, if we can look at a synastry between Venus-return chart and another person`s natal.
Well, I guess for that other person it would be only like a fleeting Transit. But if it touches our Venus-return, does it hold any meaning for us?

posted December 15, 2007 03:38 PM              

your return chart is on 4th march 2008 at 10:47 a.m.

The VR has ASC on 22° Gemini and the ruler of 1 is Mercury in 9th house.
Actually there is a packed 9th house with Moon, Mercury, Chiron, Venus and NEptune there, even though Neptune is only a few seconds away from MC, so it could be counted for the 10th house, too.
I think, relationship wise, there could be some travelling or maybe you meet a foreigner or someone during your studies (do you visit an university?).

That Venus-Neptune-conjunction on the MC seems to imply that this will be a year, where relationships are important to you. Maybe you`ll experience some very romantic love, but it`s also possible that you may fall in love with a dream, instead of a real person. Well, Venus-Neptune is capable of both, making an impossible dream come true, or dazzling you with illusions.

The NN in the 10th house also seems to say: the purpose (NN) of this year is to confront you very visibly (MC) with relationships (it is the Venus-return-chart after all).

There`s also a Sun-Uranus-conjunction in 10th house, so it seems, that whatever happens relationship-wise, it will be a big surprise.

But there is also a Mars-Pluto-opposition from the 1st to the 7th house; maybe some very intense encounters will take place, and some transformation will be going on, but of course Mars-Pluto can also indicate power struggles of the not so pleasant kind (well, I guess power plays are never pleasant).

But having said that, of course it is not CERTAIN that there will be a romantic relationship. Venus signifies more than just the lovey-dovey couples.
Maybe it could have to do with creativity, arts, music, friendships, teacher-pupil-relations (the 9th house-action could hint into that direction, too).
So, it can be a sign of a significant relationship forming, but it doesn`t have to be a romantic one, I guess.

But like oyu I have those progressions that speak of the possibility of love-relationships. like Progressed Mercury / Venus / Antivertex conjunct my natal Moon; progressed ASC conjunct my natal Venus and such things, but there`s no relationship for me, either.
BUT what is true is that I have been THINKING a lot about relationships and what I really do need.
So maybe it`s just that.

posted December 15, 2007 03:47 PM            

Thank you very much. So i guess it is suprise again....I forgot to tell you, I will have Progressive Moon conjcuting SN + NN and Chiron conjucting Venus.
Can you say it is surpise from past?

posted December 15, 2007 04:48 PM              

I think nothing in astrology will "make" another one love you.
I think astrology just provides a tool to see how the energies of two people mesh, and when there are times, in which something "could" happen between them.
But it`s really only that, I believe.

This gay musical singer I`m constantly speaking of, well we have a very intense configuration in our synastry.
His Venus and Eros are conjunct my Venus, while his Mars is exactly conjunct my Pluto. And his Mars is quare my Vensu, while my Pluto squares his Venus and Eros.

If you read up this aspect in synastry you will find something about power struggles, and the danger of violence (the Mars-Pluto-thing), but you always will find the interpretation, that this configuration indicates a very strong intense attraction (Pluto, Mars and Eros in aspect to Venus).

Does that mean he "forgets" that he`s gay, just because I appear?
No way, and no astrological configuration could change that.
Still I guess this configuration implies that there`s a rather intense energetic exchange, at least I can confirm that for my part. Pure energy, like I have never experienced it before. But that is all.
I could imagine that he does indeed feel that energy, too, but that he interpretes or feels it differently than I do.
you know, let it be a strong attraction on my part, it could be an equally strong dislike on his part, too.
I can`t imagine a gay man wanting a woman to bombard his Venus and Mars with her Venus.
And "energetic exchange" can go both ways, I guess. ATtraction and rejection. HOw it is felt, it might depend on the personal natal chart and the life-choices one has made.
Ah, I`m not even sure I still make sense here, so I better stop now.

But if you wanna know if there is a good chance for a relationship with this man, I`d look into the progressed synastry. It is often very revealing.
For example in this example with the musical-actor, the Venus-Mars-Eros-Pluto - configuration is always there. But just now my progressed Mars has come into conjunct his natal Sun. And the transiting Jupiter / Pluto-conjunction was making their dance just on top of it. And it`s me who feels like she`s dancing at the edge of a very deep abyss.

Also my progressed ASC has just walked into the conjunction to his natal Eros and will move from there into a conjunct to his natal Venus and a square to his natal Mars, therefore triggering the mentioned challenging configuration of Venus-Venus-Eros-Mars- Pluto.
For people like me who like to look at Draco, too, I couldn`t really miss the fact that his progressed Mars is exactly opposite my draconic Venus this year.

I guess I didn`t have a chance.

However, of course there is no relationship whatsoever between the two of us, but he confronted me with that big theme "relationships" and in a way I relate to him, so astrology fulfilled its function I guess, in indicating areas that will become important for me.

But on the other hand, in every relationship that I have ever seen, there has been progressed Venus-synastry, when it began.
So, if you find a Sun-Venus, Venus-Venus, Venus-Mars, ASC-Sun, ASC-Mars, ASC-Venus conjunction / opposition / trine in progressed to progressed or progressed to natal, then your (astrological) chances would increase.

But actually Ė wouldn`t take those prediction-tools too sincerly. I don`t think you can ever predict what is going to happen. I think to know what is going to happen, you actually have to go out there and experience it.

But you knew that, didn`t you?

posted December 15, 2007 05:26 PM              

I had a short look at the synastry between you and this guy and noticed following things:

- your Sun conjunct his Neptune
- your DSC conjunct his Pluto
- your ASC conjunct his NN
- his Sun opposite your Chiron
- his Sun conjunct your Karma
- his DSC conjunct your Jupiter
- his Venus opposite your Mars

- his Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto in your 7th house
- his Moon in your 4th house
- your Mercury, Venus, Jupiter in his 7th house
- your Moon in his 8th house

aspects between the rulers of the ASC-DSC-axis:
- his ASC-ruler exactly sextiles your ASC-ruler
- his DSC-ruler sextiles your ancient ASC-ruler
- his ASC conjunct your ancient ASC-ruler

Seems like there is something there. The Pluto-DSC-conjunction looks rather intense, as well as the Venus-Mars-opposition promise some sparks.
The connection between the ASC-DSC-rulers show that there is a personal connection, or at least could be, a friendly one (all these sextiles).

The planetary action in the 4th, 8th and especially the 7th house looke like an attracting factor, too.
His Sun in your 7th house and your Venus in his 7th house makes me somehow think of the "ideal man" and "ideal woman".

But I`m getting too tired now. So I better stop here.