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kfn327
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posted January 04, 2008 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kfn327     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do any aspects indicate attractiveness? I understand beauty is subjective, but I seem to remember reading something somewhere about aspects to Venus...?

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Xodian
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posted January 04, 2008 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sexually speaking (and an obvious stereotypical statement and thus is not limited to it.)

Venus Conj. Pluto is an extremely powerful position when it comes to a person inciting sexual desire in the opposite or the same sex. But it comes at a heavy price.

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CoralFrequency
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posted January 04, 2008 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure about the conjunction attracting others at - a heavy price. I knew someone with the conjunction. I have the opposition on my Nodes of all places lol.. I actually think the opposition/square causes a lot more problems for the person than the conjunction does.

The person is a lot more self aware with the conjunction and more able to attract romantic/sexual encounters where love runs very deep – without it becoming harmful to anyone..

The opposition is the worst. Maybe I’m biased lol

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Sarai
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posted January 04, 2008 03:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you're wondering about on the spot, initial attractiveness? The kind that's sort of emitted by someone? Because I've fallen for people who weren't initially attractive to me but became irresistible after getting to know them.

I find hard/tight aspects involving Venus, Mars, Pluto and Uranus might be involved in the "moths to a flame" kind of attractiveness. Depends on so much more, though, but it's usually been these planets for me.

Sarai

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Xodian
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posted January 04, 2008 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coral:

Personally speaking (and offcourse the following content cannot be taken as fact.)

Venus conj. Pluto may not be as harmful to the partner in question as is Venus opps. Pluto. However, it still has the liability to be a self-destructive aspect if not taken under caution (speaking only through an astrological viewpoint offcourse.) There are two powerful contengents trying to dominate one another in this aspect; The overwhelming sexual desire which can lead to a whole slew of sexual encounters and a powerful need to be with someone who can fulfill those inner emotional needs. Thus the confliction can lead to a lot of sexual interactions which in the end may just leave a person empty no matter how many times he/she tries to quench that sexual thirst. For no amount of sex could fill that empty gap of emotional needs.

So a person could either end up becoming a cynic on the views of romantic love and soulmates or come to a hard realization that sex just isn't enough to fulfill what they want.

Sarai:

The Venus conj. Pluto aspect usually is an onspot vibe.

To quote Astro.com:

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This position indicates deep-seated and sometimes uncontrollably powerful desire.

This makes you an arduous and astute suitor against whom other suitors have little chance. Your problem, however, may be that you are too intense.

If you and your partner are willing to plumb the depths of desire, however, you can attain the ultimate in sexual stimulation.

You look upon sex as an almost religious opportunity for self-dissolution and union with the universal whole. For you sex contains the seeds of enlightenment through immolation of the ego in the fires of physical passion.


Oh yeah... And what do they say about Libras being not passionate? Lol!

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whalepiscean
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posted January 04, 2008 04:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kfn327: By attractiveness do you mean beauty or you being attracted to a person? Because I posted a topic once on beauty and the planets.. basically what makes someone beautiful. If you want I can find it.

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whalepiscean
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posted January 04, 2008 04:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the article:

"Just as Mercury is the primary indicator of communication in the chart so the Ascendant or Rising sign, which stands for planet Earth, is the primary indicator of beauty. This does not mean it is the ONLY indicator, but the primary one. Every other planet, when well placed, will contribute to the total beauty of the individual, but there is always one that does so more than the others, and that is what the concept of rulership is all about. A planet is well placed when it is in its own gender, element, or sign. The Sun, for example, is well placed in a masculine(fire or air) sign, especially fire, and most of all in Leo(its ruling sign). The other planets follow the same rule according to their ruling signs.

The issue of rulership or dignity is pivotal to determining what is a beautiful planet and what is not. Planets in their own gender, element, or sign are comfortable or "at home" there because the natures of both the planet and the sign are complementary, similar, or even identical. Ease or comfort produces harmony which produces beauty. The more naturally the planet and sign blend the more harmony or beauty is produced. Planets in an inharmonious or incompatible gender, element, or sign are uncomfortable there and produce only tension, distortion, and conflict which produces ugliness.

The planets and their beauty quotients based on their ruling signs are as follows...

The Earth/Ascendant:

This is the main indicator of physical beauty(or the lack of it) in the chart. Earth rules Libra, the sign of beauty, so that Libra rising is first on the list of attractiveness. Libra rising has a beautiful face, and is well proportioned in every way. Not every Libra rising is perfect by the way -this depends on the other planets in the chart. One would think that the other two air signs, Gemeni and Aquarius, would come next in order of attractiveness, but it seems Sagittarius and Leo hold that distinction. Sagittarius has a pretty or handsome face, is usually brunette and often tall with a great body. So many models have Sagittarius rising. Leo ascendant is regal or noble looking and usually blond or light in coloring. The males bald early. Gemini is usually slender, brunette and sometines blonde, with a pretty or handsome face. Aquarius is also handsome or cute with brunette to blonde hair coloring. Finally, there is Aries ascendant which is not too tall, usually brunette, and whose features show strength and confidence. The males also bald early.

The ascendant is not generally physically attractive in the earth and water signs, but there are always exceptions. Take Richard Gere and Burt Reynolds, for example, both of whom have Scorpio rising and are considered quite attractive. In such cases other factors in the chart overpower or greatly modify the Ascendant influence. In general, Earth sign ascendants tend to be short and stocky except for Capricorn which is often thin or slender looking. Water ascendants often have pretty faces but their bodies are so often obese or out of proportion, except for Scorpio who is generally stocky with a beaked or prominent nose. Of course, other powerful planets or patterns in the chart can modify these descriptions to varying degrees.

Determining a person's correct ascendant is not an easy task, mostly due to the fact that it changes sign roughly every two hours and that not everyone keeps accurate records. Then there is the astrologer's nightmare -daylight savings time(double summer and war time as well), which can throw you off by half a sign or more. Finally, there are often other overpowering elements in the chart which can sometimes eclipse or overshadow the Ascendant's influence. It's no wonder over fifty percent of charts have incorrect Ascendants(and Midheavens). This is particularly so with celebrities who often give false or modified birth data usually for reasons of privacy. Favourite strategies include changing the year or reversing AM and PM.

Relying soley on birth data is not enough. It helps tremendously to visually recognize the various Ascendants in people. I do this all the time with the outer planet positions which are easier to spot or recognize because of their long-term influences. It's a little trickier with rising signs, though, but with time and practice it can be done.

It also helps to know that neighbouring signs are as different as night and day, and that this helps astrologers to decide between two rising signs. Also, masculine rising signs(fire or air) are generally taller, leaner, and more extroverted in nature, whereas the feminine ascendants(earth and water) are usually shorter, stockier, and more introverted in nature . A good way to narrow down the ascendant is to consider the element. Fire ascendants have that wild, energetic, and expressive look about them. Air ascendants have that social, refined, and intellecual look. Earth ascendants have that firm, tough, down to earth look. Water ascendants have that dreamy, sensitive, and domesticated look. Once you've figured out the element you can work on the specific sign.

Venus and Mars:

Perhaps next in importance after the Ascendant, when considering beauty, especially among females -is the planet Venus. The Ascendant is the covering, but Venus is the substance. Lady Venus, ruler of Taurus, is a very sensual and earthy planet. It rules the erotic or torrid aspects of love and sensuality. Venus is most desirable in the feminine signs, particularly in the earth signs, and most of all in Taurus -its ruling sign. Someone with both a masculine ascendant and a feminine Venus is truly a most attractive and desirable person, especially if female. Venus in fire can be passionate but it loses much of its femininity and can be crude or insensitive. Venus in air comes closest to being bisexual and has a very cerebral approach to sex.

Mars is best in the fire and air signs keeping the body trim and active and therefore contributing much to a person's beauty or level of physical attraction. Mars in fire, and especially in Aries -its ruling sign, is often found in the charts of atheletes or people in occupations where physical strength, speed, and stamina are required. Mars in air is more mentally or socially than physically active, but stays trim and attractive nonetheless. These descriptions are especially true if the ascendant or rising sign is also in fire or air. Mars in Earth tends to be slow and sluggish while Mars in water lacks energy and confidence. These shortcomings will especially be evident if the ascendant is also in a feminine sign. Men(or women) with both a masculine Ascendant and Mars are often physically attractive and challenging to the opposite sex.

Uranus:

Uranus is another planet that can make a real difference on a beauty level. Like the Ascendant, it is an air sign planet, ruler of Aquarius, and air sign planets, when well placed are particularly strong endowers of beauty. Uranus in an air sign can give great beauty, and to a somewhat lesser degree in a fire sign. I have observed the various Uranus signs personally over the decades and can confidently vouch for this. The stunning beauty of Uranus in an air sign is especially evident when combined with a air or fire ascendant. As an example, some of the most gorgeous models are those born between 1968 and 1975, when Uranus was in Libra. Uranus in Libra is probably second only to Ascendant in Libra as far as beauty is concerned. Uranus in Gemini(1942-49) and Aquarius(1912-19) and (1995-2003) are also extremely attractive and exciting placements.

The Other Planets:

Sun, Moon, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto well placed have their own brand of beauty to offer.

The SUN is best in fire or air. A masculine Sun gives nobility and presence, especially when combined with a masculine Ascendant. Feminine Suns emit a lower force field and lack the "class" expressiveness, or dignity of their masculine counterparts

The MOON is best in water or earth. Feminine Moons give that competent, classic, or "professional" look, especially when combined with a masculine Ascendant. A particularly classic combination among women is Libra rising with Moon in Capricorn which gives Barbie doll-like features. Masculine Moons, on the other hand, are primitive by comparison, especially the fire Moons which can be animalistic in nature. Air sign Moons can be attractive, but in a bland or superficial kind of way, and then only when combined with a masculine ascendant. A feminine Moon will go a long way towards someone's professional success. Most successful employees, buisnessmen, politicians, or professional people in general have feminine Moons.

JUPITER is best in fire or air. Masculine Jupiters gives height and fullness and prominence, especially when they are combined with a masculine ascendant. Feminine Jupiters lack the enthusiasm, grandeur, and the moral fibre of their masculine counterpatrs.

NEPTUNE is best in the water or Earth signs. Feminine Neptunes add grace, sensitivity, and refinement to one's physical features whereas masculine Neptunes give hard and almost clod-like features. I've noticed, for example, how many young people with Neptune in Sagittartius have long skinny legs with large feet.

PLUTO is best in water or Earth. A Feminine Pluto adds depth, contrast, magnetism, and femininity to the appearance whearas a masculine Pluto can look haunting and almost bisexual in nature. Many with Pluto in Cancer, for example, have a jovial and domesticated look. Pluto in Leo people have a brilliant but icy gaze. Those with Pluto in Virgo have a chic or "high-definition" look to them. Pluto in Libra is often noted for its slim-model or cerebral look, and so on."

Not sure if I agree with it all though!

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blue moon
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posted January 04, 2008 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are/were 3 very handsome fellas in my family: my uncle, my brother and my son. The sideways gene in action.

My brother is a good example. Venus in Taurus on the Ascendant.

Girls used to go a bit silly over him. His wife said she nearly swooned when he first kissed her because he is so handsome. Now she gets to wash his underpants and clean up after his kids I should imagine the novelty has worn off.

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Green Fairy
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posted January 04, 2008 08:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whalepiscean did you get that article from the librarising.com website?

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posted January 04, 2008 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Venus in conjunction with the outer planets gives a very interesting look in females. For example Venus/Neptune conjunction women have this very fragile, otherworldly beauty. Saturn/Venus conjunction women look very healthy and fit, Venus/Uranus females have an odd beauty, Venus/Pluto have a very intense mysterious beauty about them.

Men with an Aries/Libra combination are usually very attractive without even trying. Maybe it's just me.

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Mama Mia
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posted January 04, 2008 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Venus and Venus Conjunct Asc is a good indicator also..

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Azalaksh
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posted January 04, 2008 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Feminine Suns emit a lower force field and lack the "class" expressiveness, or dignity of their masculine counterparts.
Masculine Moons … are primitive by comparison, especially the fire Moons which can be animalistic in nature.
masculine Neptunes give hard and almost clod-like features.
Oh for heaven’s sake!!
Could you please provide the name of this article/website so I can avoid it in the future?? Thanks

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Glaucus
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posted January 04, 2008 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My girlfriend is very attractive, and she has Venus in Taurus in 2nd sextile Pisces Ascendant with 19 minutes of arc. My Virgo Ascendant aspects that configuration with my Ascendant oppose her Ascendant with 16 minutes of arc and trine her Venus with 3 minutes of arc. That indicates that we are very attracted to each other.

My mother was very attractive and she was actually a cosmetologist. She went to beauty school.

My mother has numerous aspects to Venus
Venus in Cancer in 2nd house
conjunct Uranus in Cancer in 2nd - 3'39
trine chart ruler,Moon in Scorpio in 5th - 6'13
square 10th house ruler Neptune in Libra in 5th - 1'39
parallel Ascendant - '29
parallel Sun - '14
parallel Mercury - '10
parallel Jupiter - '21
parallel Uranus - '45
parallel Pluto - '10


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Mama Mia
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posted January 04, 2008 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about just having good looking parents and great grandparent..Honestly That is where the attractiveness comes in my family..Both my parents were attractive and I have a good looking family all the kids, grandkids, uncles and aunts and we all look alike, strong genes..

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posted January 04, 2008 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Also personal tastes could influence what one believe is attractive

even things like racism,bigotry

If you go to Stormfront, White Supremacist site, you will know that they don't view any people other than white as attractive and view blacks to be ugly.

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posted January 04, 2008 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yup I got it from Libra Rising!! LOL Zala so you can avoid it :P

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posted January 04, 2008 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Librarising.com is a terribly inaccurate website.

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blue moon
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posted January 04, 2008 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point, Glaucus.

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Sarai
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posted January 04, 2008 06:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Librarising.com makes up their own ascendants and stuff. It's hard to tell who is what ascendant. what's wrong with them?

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posted January 04, 2008 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. They switch people's pics into different risings, just so they make their "points"

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