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darkdreamer
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posted July 21, 2008 08:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump for later research

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DD, my new found Guru's ASC conjunct my Atlantis

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Venus de INdia (and others),

that is a significant placement I think (I have that natally Atlantis conjunct AC, Mars, NN, Neptune and Angel).

I have actually found an astonishing pattern regarding asteroid Atlantis and its aspects to Venus, NN, Karma, Vertex and most of all DNA and of course Sun and Moon.
Why DNA? Well, DNA Represents our genetic code, so if we were split from our Twinsoul in Atlantis, it might show up as an aspect.

I also used the conjunction, trine, opposition, square, sextile and quinkunx and quindecile.
Quinkunx because it is said to be a karmic aspects, with all these adjustments that needs to be made; also the YOD isn`t ccalled Figner of God, for nothing I guess.

The Quindecile is a new one to me, and I`m not dead-certain about it, but it seems to relate to this sort of obsession and passion and also upheaval and sepearation that the separation or even the union with a Twinsoul could bring.

Oh I forgot I also looked at the mirrordegrees, solstice points.

Let`s begin:

Angelina - Brad

natal:
her Atlantis trine her Karma (0)

his Atlantis square his NN (4)
his Atlantis / DNA-mp solstic his VErtex (0)
his Atlantis quindecile his IC (0)


synastry:
her Atlantis sextile his DNA (1)
her Atlantis sextile his Venus (1)
her Atlantis sextile his MOon (0)
her Atlantis quinkunx his VAlentine (1)
her Atlantis / DNA-mp solstice his Sun (1,5)


his Atlantis conjunct her DNA (5) - too wide, I guess
his ATlantis sextile her Vertex (3)
his Atlantis conjunct her IC (4)
his Atlantis trine her Sun (1)
his Atlantis opposite her MOon (1)
his Atlantis / DNA conjunct her SN (1,5)
his Atlantis / DNA solstice her Venus (0) and her AC (1)
his ATlantis / Valentine conjunct her DNA (1,5)


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librasunleomoon
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posted July 21, 2008 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
weird....so my boyfriend's atlantis is conjunct my venus! and mine is conjunct his saturn

however his atlantis is also conjunct his moon. when i think about atlantis, and it's sinking, i wonder if this is why he always feels down like he can't control his bad moods?

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darkdreamer
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Antonio - Melanie:

natal:
his ATlantis conjunct his NN and VErtex (2)

her Atlantis opposite her Karma (5)
her Atlantis quindecile her Antivertex (2)

synastry:

his Atlantis conjunct her Venus (1)
his ATlantis sextile her NN (2)
his Atlantis trine her AC (1)
his Atlantis quinkunx her MOon (3)
his Atlantis / DNA conjunct her Valentine (2,5)


her Atlantis quinkunx his AC (2)
her Atlantis oposite his MOon (3)
her Atlantis / DNA Conjunct his Venus (1,5) and opposite his Chiron (2,5)
her Atlantis / Valentine-mp conjunct his Venus (3) and opposite Chiron (2)

JOhnny - June:

natal:
his ATlantis conjunct his Chiron (3)

her Atlantis opposite her Valentine (1)


synastry:
his Atlantis conjunct her Venus (0)
his Atlantis conjunct her NN (4)
his ATlantis conjunct her Chiorn (3)
his ATlantis / DNA-mp conjunct her Chiron (3)
his Atlantis / DNA-mp solstice her DNA (1)
his Atlantis / Valentine- mp conjunct her Karma (3) and solstice her MOon (1)

her Atlantis square his DNA (2)
her Atlantis opposite his Karma (2)
her Atlantis / DNA solstice his Sun (2,5) and his Chiron (0,5)
her Atlantis / Valentine opposite his DNA (2)


Johnny (Depp) - Vanessa

natal:
his ATlantis conjunct his AC (3)
his Atlantis / VAlentine-mp conjunct his AC (0)

her Atlantis conjunct her Moon (2)
her Atlantis solstice her Venus (3)
her Atlantis / Valentine-mp conjunct her SN (1,5)


synastry:

his Atlantis trine her DNA (2)
his ATlantis solstice her AC (2)
his ATlantis / DNA opposite her DNA (2,5)

her Atlantis sextile his Venus (3)
her Atlantis conjunct his NN (3)
her ATlantis / DNA opposite his DNA (0)
her Atlantis / Valentine oposite his MOon (2,5)

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darkdreamer
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Paul - LInda

natal:
his ATlantis conjunct his Sun (5)
his Atlantis / DNA-mp conjunct his Moon (1)

her Atlantis trine her NN (2)
her Atlantis / DNA conjunct her IC (1)

synastry:

his ATlantis conjunct her Karma (1)
his Atlantis square her Sun (0)
his ATlantis / DNA-mp conjunct her MC (2) and solstice her Venus (2)

her Atlantis trine his Venus (1)
her Atlantis sextile his Vertex (1)
her Atlantis / DNA-mp solstice his Moon (2) and VErtex (2)


Paul - Joanne

natal:
his ATlantis quinkunx his Vertex (1)

her Atlantis / Valentine-mp solstic her AC (2)


synastry:
his ATlantis trine her DNA (1)
his ATlnatis quiinkun her Vertex and Karma (1)
his Atlantis / Valentine-mp conjunct her Venus (1,5)

her Atlantis quinkunx his Moon (1)
her Atlantis / DNA-mp solstice his Valentine (1,5)

Richard - Liz

natal:
his ATlantis square his Sun (2)
his ATlantis / DNA-mp conjunct his vEretx (3)
his ATlantis / Valentine-mp conjunct his venus (2)

her Atlantis conjunct her Chiron (3)
her Atlantis opposite her Moon (1)

synastry:
his ATlantis trine her Venus (2)
his ATlantis quare her Chiorn (0)
his ATlantis quindecile her Karma (0)
his ATlantis / DNA-mp solstice her IC (1)

her Atlantis opposite his Sun (1)
her Atlantis conjunct his Valentine (1)
her Atlantis / Valentine-mp conjunct his IC (2)

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Lara
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my Atlantis square his venus
my atlantis square his uranus
my atlantis exact square his chiron
my atlantis exact opposes his vertes
my atlantis trine his juno
my atlantis sextile his aphrodite
my atlantis trine his kaali
my atlantis trine his atlantis
my atlantis trine his MC

his atlantis trine my mercury
his atlantis bi-quintile my saturn
his atlantis quincunx my osiris
his atlantis square my siva
his atlantis sextile my psyche
his atlantis sextile my karma

yes, this is Mike and me !

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darkdreamer
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posted July 21, 2008 12:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Librasunleomoon,

this is not weird, that is actually the aspect I found the most: Venus conjunct Atlantis and often Atlantis was also aspecting Moon.

In fact I think (Have to look more closely though) that in every single case of these celebrity-soulmates there was a Venus-Atlantis aspect within tight orb (3° or so).

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librasunleomoon
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posted July 21, 2008 12:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's so awesome i meant weird in a "omg wow she was right" way when i read it lol

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darkdreamer
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posted July 21, 2008 12:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let`s trace some patterns!


Atlantis - Venus:

Angelina - Brad: sextile (1)
Paul - Linda: trine (1)
Paul - Joanne: biseptile (1,5)
Richard - Liz: trine (2)
Antonio - Melanie: conjunct (1)
Johnny - June: conjunct (0)
Johnny - Vanessa: sextile (3)

In ALL relationships is a Venus-Atlantis aspect present, even though the one in Paul and Joanne`s case is a minor aspect, but they do have a midpoint with Atlantis and Venus:
his Atlantis / Valentine-mp conjunct her Venus (1)

It`s remarkable that they are ALL soft aspects, it`s like Venus doesn`t like too much tension in regard to Atlantis.
Sextile, trine and conjunction seem to be the aspects of choice (btw my Mum and Dad also share the VEnus-Atlantis-conjunction .

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darkdreamer
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posted July 21, 2008 12:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Atlantis - Vertex, Karma or NN (for the "fate-aspect"):

Angelina - Brad: sextile Vertex (3)
Paul - Linda: conjunct Karma (1) and sextile Vertex (1)
Paul - Joanne: quinkunx Vertex and Karma (1)
Richard - Liz: quindecile Karma (0)
Antonio - Melanie: sextile NN (2)
JOhnny - June: conjunct NN (4) and opposite Karma (2)
JOhnny - Vanessa: conjunct NN (3)

Also present in ALL relationships.

Atlantis - Sun or Moon

Angelina - Brad: sextile Moon (0), trine Sun (1), opposite Moon (1)

Paul - Linda: square Sun (0)

Paul - Joanne: quinkunx Moon (1)

Richard - Liz: opposite Sun (1)

Antonio - Melanie: quinkunx Moon (3), opposite Moon (3)

JOhnny - June: -

Johnny - Vanessa: -

So, in two cases no aspect with Sun or Moon. But again there is a midpoint with the Sun or Moon:

JOhnny - June:
his Atlantis / Valentine mp solstice Moon (1)
her Atlantis / DNA mp solstice his Sun (2)


JOhnny - VAnessa:
her Atlantis / Valentine opposite his Moon (2)

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darkdreamer
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Atlantis - AC or IC:

Angelina - Brad: conjunct (4)
Paul - Linda: -
Paul - Joanne: -
Richard - Liz: -
Antonio - Melanie: trine AC (1), quinkunx AC (2)
JOhnny - June: -
Johnny - Vanessa: solstice AC (2)

This one doesn`T seem to be necessary.


Atlantis - DNA:

Angelina - Brad: sextile (1) and conjunct (5)
Paul - Linda: trine (1)
Richard - Liz: -
Antonio - Melanie: -
Johnny - June: square (2)
JOhnny - Vanessa: trine (2)

Hmm, only two relationships without the DNA-Atlantis-aspect.
Let`s look at the midpoints for that:

Angelina - brad:
her Atlantis / DNA solstice his Sun;
his Atlantis / DNA conjunct her SN, solstice her Venus and AC
his ATlantis / VAlentine conjunct her DNA


Paul - Linda:
his ATlantis / DNA conjunct her MC and solstice her Venus
her Atlantis / DNA solstice his Moon and VErtex

Paul - Joanne:
her Atlantis / DNA solstice his Valentine


Richard - Liz:
his Atlantis / DNA solstice her IC

Antonio - Melanie:
his Atlantis / DC conjunct her Valentine
her Atlantis / DNA conjunct his Venus and oposite his Chiron

Johnny - June:
his ATlantis / DNA conjunct her Chiron and solstice her DNA
her Atlantis / DNA solstice his Sun and his Chiron
her Atlantis / VAlentine opposite his DNA

JOhnny - VAnessa:
his Atlantis / DNA opposite her DNA
her Atlantis / DNA opposite his DNA

So, let`s summarize.
These aspects seem to be common:

1. Atlantis in soft aspect to Venus (conjunction, sextile, trine)

2. Atlantis in aspect to Sun or Moon (also challenging aspects)

3. Atlantis in aspect to DNA or the midpoint of Atlantis / DNA to important points

4. Atlantis in aspect to Vertex, Karma or the Nodes

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Lara
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posted July 21, 2008 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how do l work out DNA please? Is it a number?

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darkdreamer
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The asteroid DNA has the number 55555.

I have two synastries here:

synastry 1:

1. Atlantis - Venus
no aspects

2. Atlantis - Sun, Moon, AC, IC
his Atlantis trine her Sun (2)

3. Atlantis - NN , Karma, Vertex
her Atlantis quinkunx his Karma (0)
his Atlantis septile her Karma (0)
his Atlantis square her Vertex (3)

4. Atlantis - DNA
his Atlantis opposite her DNA (3,5)

5. midpoints Atlantis / DNA and Atlantis / Valentine
her Atlantis / DNA solstic his SN (0)
his ATlantis / DNA conjuncts her Karma (3,5)


Second synastry:

1. Atlantis - Venus
her Atlantis conjunct his Venus (4°48)
his Atlantis quindecile her Venus (0)

2. Atlantis - Sun, Moon, AC, IC
her Atlantis conjunct his AC (0)
his ATlantis solstice her AC (1)

her Atlantis trine his IC (0)

his ATlantis triseptile her Sun (0)
his Atlantis triseptile her Moon (0)
(actually that is septile-chain, since her Sun is exactly septile her Moon)


3. Atlantis - NN, Karma, Vertex
her Atlantis solstiche his Vertex (2)
his ATlantis conjunct her Vertex (0)

his ATlantis solstice her NN (2)


4. Atlantis - DNA
her Atlantis trine his DNA (0)
his Atlantis square her DNA (1,5)


5. midpoints:
his Atlantis / DNA opposite her Valentine (3)
his ATlantis / VAlentine solstic her Karma with 0°08!


So many dw`s.

Atlantis - Venus (if you can count it)
Atlantis - AC
Atlantis - Vertex
Atlantis - DNA


DD

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Lara
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posted July 21, 2008 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks

Is this just tropical? Wow!

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darkdreamer
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Yes, for research I left out the Draconics for now. Even though seeing that CAyce saw the Draconic placements rather than the tropical ones I should have a look there, too.

What I know is that the man of the 1st syastry has his Draconic Atlantis exactly conjunct her AC and Atlantis.
Her Draconic Atlantis falls into his AC-sign, but I don`t know if it is conjunct.

In the second synastry his draconic Atlantis is exactly conjunct her MC and also conjuncts her draconic Karma for instance.

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Lara
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well Mike and i have

his DNA trine my atlantis
his DNA square my AC
his DNA trine my AC
my DNA opposes his atlantis (wide orb though)

**edited to add ATLANTIS ! duh !

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darkdreamer
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Lara,

hm, as far as I see it there is no aspect between DNA and Atlantis.

The DNA - ASC-dw is interesting.
But honestly I don`t think these tropical DNA-aspects are so extraordinary.
But I`m not completely sure how to weigh DNA in synastry. I just included it, because it represents the Genetic Code of a person and if two people have been together in Atlantis, then it should show in the synastry, shouldn`t it?

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Lara
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lol

thats cos atlantis wasn't in the aspects list LOL

oops. sorry

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darkdreamer
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Please, Lara, can you see if there are aspects between:

1. Atlantis - Venus (this one seems to be absolutely required)

2. Atlantis - Sun, Moon, AC, IC

3. Atlantis - Vertex, NN, Karma

4. Atlantis - DNA?

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Lara
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posted July 21, 2008 06:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sure

1. Atlantis - Venus (this one seems to be absolutely required)
my atlantis square his venus

2. Atlantis - Sun, Moon, AC, IC
my atlantis semi square his AC exact
my atlantis trine his MC

3. Atlantis - Vertex, NN, Karma
his atlantis semi square my vertex exact
his atlantis sextile my karma (5)
my atlantis opposes his vertex

4. Atlantis - DNA?
his DNA trine my atlantis
my DNA opposes his atlantis (7)

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darkdreamer
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"1. Atlantis - Venus (this one seems to be absolutely required)
my atlantis square his venus"

Hmm, strange. In those other synastries the Atlantis-Venus-aspects were harmonious or conjunctions. I wonder if that difference is important.
Maybe explains the turmoil?


"2. Atlantis - Sun, Moon, AC, IC
my atlantis semi square his AC exact
my atlantis trine his MC"
Well, I mostly want to see major aspects n(yes, I know I broke my own rule ), but exact minor aspects could be important, too.


"3. Atlantis - Vertex, NN, Karma
his atlantis semi square my vertex exact
his atlantis sextile my karma (5)
my atlantis opposes his vertex"
Hmm definitely meaningful. Especially t he Atlantis-Antivertex-conjunction.


"4. Atlantis - DNA?
his DNA trine my atlantis
my DNA opposes his atlantis (7)"
The last one definitely is too wide. What orb has the DNA-Atlantis-trine?

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Lara
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posted July 21, 2008 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1 degree

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Can I join in once again in this thread?

How are you girls?

Funny that you bumped this thread DD - im reading one of Marion Zimmer´s books where Atlantis seems to pop out once in a while as a place where Twins were together in a high number

SINASTRY:

J´s Venus semisextile my Atlantis 0º

My Antisticia Point of Venus sextile his Atlantis 4º too wide though i guess..

My ATlantis (conj my Venus) is conjunct his Venus/AC mID. 1º

J´s Atlantis sextile my Sun 0º

His AT/DNA Mid. conj my Mars.Opose my 5thCusp.Conj mY Antist.Moon Point(0º)

My AT/DNA Mid. conjunct his Venus 1º.Trine his Kiron.

My Atlantis conj his Karma Solst.Point (4º).
My Atlantis solstice conj. his Karma 4º

His Atlantis SolSTice Point conj. my NN 3º.
His Atlantis solstice Point conj my Isis 4º.

Hmmm seems interesting!

What do you think about Dracos?I know You´re curious to study it also.Cause if Atlantis connects to past and ancient magic place,naturally a "past life" conection will appear in such type of chart - well im presuming for now.

Just couldnt resist to see if also these patterns appeared there in our DRACOS.

HIS ATLANTIS ( D to D)

conj my NN
sextile my VX
sextile my Karma
Trine my DNA 5º

MY ATLANTIS

sextile his NN 5º
skuare his VX 0º
trine his Karma 6º
conj his DNA 5º
kIkunkx His MC

Conjunct exact his D.Amor as well
Solstice conj.his N.ASC!

His D.Atlantis solstice conj.my ASC!

CURIOSITY: his Atlantis is solstice conj my Isis/Osiris Mid. 1º and VX/Karma Midpoint.
My own Atlantis is solstice conjunct his Valentine/Karma Mid.0º

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forgot to mentio that his Atlantis conj my MC

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darkdreamer
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Diandra,

glad to see you`re back to this thread.


One word of caution, we have to be a bit careful not to include EVERYTHING, or any synastry would fulfill those rules I discovered. And it`s not very likely that we have spent a life with the milkman in Atlantis - well, at least not all of us.

Also, when I reserached that Atlatnis-connection witht eh celebrity couples, the connections were very clear, major aspects, solstice points (and you only use conjunction and opposition here) and rather tight orbs (I`d only expand the orb for a conjunction between asteroid and planet).

Also, I included the midpoints, but I`m very sceptical about them, because ther eare too many of them, and I fear we could find a lot of activations this way. HOwever, conjunctions / oppositions to midpoints could be very relevant though. At least my research showed that they are often triggered. Especially the Atlantis / DNA-midpoint, but the triggering planet has to be an important planet.


"J´s Atlantis sextile my Sun 0º"


"His AT/DNA Mid. conj my Mars.Conj mY Antist.Moon Point(0º)"

"My AT/DNA Mid. conjunct his Venus 1º"


"My Atlantis conj his Karma Solst.Point (4º)."
4° is definitely too wide for solstice points. I know that most astrologers only use a 0° orb, I personally allow even 2° orb, but really no more than t hat.


"His Atlantis SolSTice Point conj. my NN 3º."
Okay, exception accepted.


"at do you think about Dracos?I know You´re curious to study it also.Cause if Atlantis connects to past and ancient magic place,naturally a "past life" conection will appear in such type of chart - well im presuming for now."
I think it will, but it also seems that there has to be a clear pattern in the tropical alone.

"ATLANTIS ( D to D)

conj my NN

MY ATLANTIS

Solstice conj.his N.ASC!

His D.Atlantis solstice conj.my ASC!"
This one is definitely important. DW of Atlantis and AC.


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