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Topic: Moon conjunct Pluto, Describe your Mother
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3823 From: nevada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 07, 2008 11:35 AM
Actually it was GotGemini who inspired this thread You know how the Moon (and Venus somewhat) describe the Mother? I thought it would be interesting to compare notes with those of you who have the conjunction. Unfortunately I do not have an aspect between my Moon and Pluto but I do have a child with this aspect. He would probably describe me as mean j/k more like driven (as it pertains to his immediate goals). Persistent. Anyone? make sure to include the house it's in
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Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Mercury Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 07, 2008 11:59 AM
*winks at lalalinda*I have Pluto conjunct Moon 0º in Libra in the 2nd house. Since I don't yet know what the 2nd house is about yet (i've been looking up houses for the last 2 hours lol), i'll go ahead and answer your request the best way I could. My mom. Hmm. My Leo mom. I LOVE HER! She is a great person despite the negative trials and tribulations she has endured through her life (In case anyone wants to see her chart, Aug 4, 1954 in Atlantic City, NJ unknown time). I dunno. Me and my mom have this sort of unspoken connection (maybe that is why I have gotten along with every Leo female I have ever met). Growing up, she just "understood" me. She let me be me. She trusted me not to travel down the wrong path and succumb to peer pressure and I didn't. We used to have looong talks about whatever (my mother believes in past lives and believes she was Cleopatra in a past life). Of course we had our clashes but they were few and far in between and usually very minor. But like I said, I have to put emphasis on saying our connection was sort of unspoken. I felt like she knew what I was thinking and vice versa. She is a very good friend to me. When she sees me, she immediately can tell if everything is well or bad in my life. Thats why i'm a little careful about seeing her when all isn't well with certain things in my life. I know she is going to tell me the flat out truth which I may appreciate, but at that time, I may not want to hear lol. (Come to think of it, I never looked at her chart! Guess I will today lol!) ------------------ Virgo Asc & Mars Gemini Sun Libra Moon Gemini Mercury Cancer Venus IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted May 07, 2008 12:32 PM
You went there.She has Pluto CNJ Mercury CNJ Sun in the 4th in Do you need a description? What about -> Dictator in a Headscarf. I have Virgo Pluto CNJ Libra Moon in 10th. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 07, 2008 02:58 PM
Would you count mine? I don't think I would (7th). I have moon 20 deg lib, pluto 11 deg libra (6th). And "dictator" is taking it lightly, I love my mum (and she loves me), but she is suffocating, manipulative, controlling and outrageously over the tope. But that could be a 4th house saturn issue and the fact that she is a sco-leo moon and I'm aqu. IP: Logged |
evander Knowflake Posts: 195 From: east of eu Registered: Apr 2008
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posted May 07, 2008 04:27 PM
i hv pluto[7th house sco] sextile moon [capp 10house conjunct mc]. venus is conjunct pluto. my mom is a scorpio [sun, venus, neptune]. she's ... well we have had our disagreements. but she's supportive, truthful [never kept secrets], dangerous [makes me measure words when i confront her, she's more then capable to strike back [ in a verbal sense] ... she trusted me. thought me basics of astrology. she holds weight to my opinion. respects my privacy. she can be slightly over possessive but she keeps it in control. transformationally speaking she's constantly changing her appearance and building up her personality.
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alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 1840 From: Connecticut Registered: May 2005
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posted May 07, 2008 06:48 PM
quote: But that could be a 4th house saturn issue and the fact that she is a sco-leo moon and I'm aqu.
If that's your experience, 23, maybe I shouldn't reproduce. I fear for my poor children-to-be. Haha ------------------ Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 07, 2008 06:51 PM
Alanabelle - its not you, its the kids, make sure you don't pop one out that is an aqu and that squares your sun (mum and I have a t-square sun-moon-sun combo)IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri Moderator Posts: 2913 From: Never Never Land Registered: Oct 2006
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posted May 07, 2008 10:33 PM
Intense...she is a Sun conjunct Pluto and her moon is conjunct my moon and my Pluto. I love her to death but sometimes our relationship is really volatile in the true Scorpionic sense. We fight like crazy with the whole emotional manipulation thing going on (more her than me). But we are very loyal to each other quote: If that's your experience, 23, maybe I shouldn't reproduce. I fear for my poor children-to-be. Haha
Actually my aunt is a Scorpio moon in Leo and she is one of the coolest people I know with a wonderful relationship with her Gemini daughter...My mom is a Leo Scorpio Scorpio...love her to death but she could be intensely dramatic ------------------ Sun-Gemini Moon-Scorpio ASC-Libra IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 07, 2008 11:53 PM
Yes what BUD says is pretty accurate. But its different when they aren't your parent and its different if you are a gem-sco moon (which my partner is and thus seems to get on better with my mum than me).I must say that I gave my mum hell too, so part of the blame probably falls on me as well. If you saw the synastry and the transits we went through, you'd be amazed that we still love each other and are still talking to each other, but that's really the power of love, so in that way we, are a success story. Enough about me, I don't even count the 9 degree "conjunction" between my moon and pluto IP: Logged |
artemisss Knowflake Posts: 218 From: NY, NY, USA Registered: Feb 2008
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posted May 08, 2008 02:54 AM
moon [in pisces] trine pluto[in scorpio] [pluto in 8th, moon in 1st] venus in capricorn alot of chaos growing up, control, secrecy, violence with father, etc,,,, now i am 23, and she is my best friend...things are different and there is a lot of mutual respect and love IP: Logged |
alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 1840 From: Connecticut Registered: May 2005
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posted May 08, 2008 06:53 AM
I know guys, I was kidding :-). I know it takes more in a chart than just sun/moon signs to influence a person's character and personality.23, That's funny because I've always wanted an Aqua child. I mean I'd love the little thing no matter what sign it fell under, but Aqua is a huge preference :-). I'm very Aquarian myself so I know it's probably out of selfish preference, I've got the Moon(8th) SQUARE Pluto (11th), so I know the energy is used differently but no problems with my Capricorn Mom. Power struggles, yea but what child doesn't have them? She's also very suspicious, doesn't trust ANYONE, (which makes my life a tad difficult with all the friends I track through the house..blame that on a super strong 11th house) a bit extreme, and quite passionate. My father fears her, as she is t-o-u-g-h. But I'm a Scorpio with an 8th house Moon, so it doesn't bother me as much..maybe because I'm used to how it works. But man, I've spent most of my time growing up (and now!) convincing her that not everyone is out to harm me.
What's interesting is that almost everyone in my family has the Moon in aspect to Pluto- hard aspect. No soft aspects here- and the women/mothers in our family are held in the highest regard, almost as if they were queens or the ultimate power. Very, very strong women, who will do anything to survive and protect her loved ones. Kind of like the Mars concept, taken to the extreme.
Dad- Moon conjunct Pluto: spoiled his mother, she was the most important thing in his life, treated her like a queen or a goddess, but she was a very strict woman, often feared, fearless, another t-o-u-g-h, takes no bullcrap woman. It's prob why he fell for my mom, don't they say Men go after women who remind them of their mothers? She died when he turned 18. Mom- Moon square Pluto: helped her mom in every way ever since she was little, dedicated and sacrificed a great deal of her life (giving up a full scholarship to an Ivy league school to help her mother raise her two younger brothers), the only child out of 7 who cares for her My sister "lucked out" with the Moon semisextile to Pluto, she's the only one who lacks any passion and that drive to "do whatever it takes to survive, no matter what". She's also very airy so that adds to it (AC, Sun in Gemini, Moon in Libra, Saturn in Aquarius) Prob not relevant at all, but I've got a Jupiter in the 3rd, cut me some slack ------------------ Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted May 08, 2008 02:04 PM
I have Moon conjunct Pluto in the 5th. Different signs. My Moon is at 29 degrees Virgo. My Pluto is at 4 degrees Libra.It's fitting that my Moon is in the 5th as my mom is a Leo. My mom is a mother of five children. The first and the last were accidental conceptions. She was a homemaker and a daycare provider while I was growing up. She often confided in me when things got tough on her emotionally. My dad ran his own business for many years, and that was stressful on my mom. She is a creative person. She enjoys crafts and music. She sews. She bakes. In recent years she been a youth pastor for a church. She is a good event coordinator, and I've seen her take that role many times in my life. As for my relationship with her, I would say it's always been good. I remember having so many conversations about her regarding religion growing up. Usually those conversations were initiated by me. We were both fans of Max Lucado's early work. The only things I would have asked to have different would have been more adequate discipline. I'd have preferred her to have been a little less lax in some regards. Also, I don't believe she's ever really understood me, though there is a belief on her part that she does. IP: Logged |
seveneieghtorange Knowflake Posts: 410 From: atlanta, georgia Registered: Jan 2005
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posted May 08, 2008 03:52 PM
My Pisces mom...she has a Virgo moon, which conjucts HER mother's natal sun. Interestingly, she and her mother were extremely close before my grandmother passed away. My mom..well, i love her to death. She affects me more than I think she really does. Her advice and her reactions and her comments on how I live my very unorthodox [in her opinion] can be sometimes very scathing. When I was growing up, she didnt know exactly how to love me. She used to show it through money - giving me money, buying me clothes, but she was never physically there when I was growing up. I think I probably missed her more than I let on when I was growing up and when I needed that motherly love. I basically had to fend for myself with it comes to the emotional department. My mother was always out taking care of business and leaving me with the housekeepers, so thats how my life was - my mother never took me to school, that was a rarity. Our driver took us (me and my brother) to school, the servants picked us up from school, while my mom lunched with her friends, business ppl, etc. She was a housewife, but we had a lot of agricultural business back home in the Philippines so she was always out and about. Now that Im much older, she will probably say that she was there for me when I was growing up; but my experience would prove otherwise. I love her, though. She's not ever cold, she's very sweet - so sweet that on her birthdays, she will go shopping and pick out something for ME.
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LibraLady2709 Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Registered: Feb 2008
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posted May 08, 2008 04:09 PM
My moon is in the 8th house and is trine my Pluto (I have Moon in Cancer, Pluto in Scorpio).My mother's moon is probably Gemini; there is a small chance that it could be Cancer, but it is a VERY small chance since the moon changed signs very, very late in the day that she was born. I don't know her exact birth time--and neither does she, and her parents are deceased so there is no one that knows her real birth time that I could ask about it and I don't know if it is recorded in city records--so I just usually count it as Gemini since it fits her personality and it's more likely. My mom and I are pretty much emotional opposites and we don't always get along. I don't really feel like we connect emotionally to each other and we are VERY different people. Her mom, like me, had an air sign Sun and a water sign Moon....but I wasn't close to her either because I didn't see her a lot. I was much closer to my dad's Virgo Moon (and Virgo Sun) mother. As for parent-child connections...I don't really know what the Gemini-Cancer moons between my mother and I mean, but I do know that (a) I have no 5th house planets and (b) strongly am against having children of my own, so maybe that has some sort of influence? IP: Logged |
Vastorode Knowflake Posts: 16 From: USA Registered: Mar 2007
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posted May 08, 2008 05:59 PM
um, i don't have moon conjunction Pluto but it sounds better than mine, but i have moon opposition Pluto, and emotionally my mom and dad were never there for me "never" ,i grew up relying on myself on everything , i mean every "thing" , i remember when i was young i used to feel the need for a "hug" or a "kiss" or just a comforting words from my parents but i never got it never...i know i went to my mom to get those emotional feedbacks but i never got it, instead i got things like "don't feel that emotion" , instead of feeling why i am getting those feeling, they blocked my feelings and just changed the subject or they went in a deep silence " its like i felt bad because i was feeling bad" you know its weird. , my mom got married in a very young age 18 and my dad was around 30? , i never had a deep emotional moment with my parents "never" its like they put a wall between me and my emotions, they never admitted it or nurtured it , so i kind of depended on myself from young age, it sucks because moon opposite Pluto is like being in too much control of you feeling that "unknowingly " you cant feel what the other persons is feeling which sucks,i have Scorpio sun/mercury/ rising and Aries moon , i figured out the answers all by myself on why things happened and so on, i noticed friendship with girls are so good for me , because it helps me open up and be comfortable with my feelings , what a combination right? sun/mercury/rising Scorpio and Aries moon , and moon opposite Pluto , good thing i have people who understand my crazy feelings. my friends tell me i can be an awesome psychologist, they always come to me and tell me their problems and i help them it feels so good to help people to sort out their feeling too. i just wanted to share this Pluto opposition moon with you guys its a crazy placement. IP: Logged |
plutomaki Knowflake Posts: 73 From: Puruuto Registered: Apr 2008
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posted May 09, 2008 10:02 AM
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taurus/gemini cusp Knowflake Posts: 750 From: London, England Registered: Sep 2006
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posted May 09, 2008 01:53 PM
Sorry to intrude, with my big fat Moon square Pluto, but the whole Pluto/moon thing in regards to our relationships with our mothers is an interesting subject..... I love my mum. But, (and there is a but!) she and I do not connect as emotionally as I would have liked. Growing up (and there were many more problems with my father, believe me) I always felt like she couldn't be reached, and funnily enough, she has complained that I am too distant as well! Now this could also be explained by my Aquarius moon and Uranus singleton and her close Sun-Uranus conjunction. But I do feel like Pluto plays it's part here too..... I know my mum loves me now, but it was very easy to doubt that when I was growing up. To be fair, she had her problems (my dad was an alcoholic and he was violent to me - not her or my sister - just me!!!) It was very hard and I always felt like she didn't do nearly enough to protect or comfort me. That and other incidents (which I won't bore you with) showed her up to be spineless and down right neglectful. She could also be selfish, irresponsible, snobby (Leo sun) and quite tight. No one buries their head in the sand quite like my mum and she has such insecurity in her own originality that she comes across as weak and a copycat. If only she would realise that she's SO quirky, unique and original that she doesn't need to do that. I also felt continuously let down by her and I'm sure she felt the same about me. She was just never adequately there for me. There was a definite lack of maternal bond there, I think. That said, it's not all bad news. She's fun and sparky - very optimistic (Sagittarius moon) and incredibly intelligent, in the way that a mad professor might be - academically bright (she speaks four languages and has great general knowledge) but forgetful and scatty - which leads to lots of hilarious moments!!! Over the years, she's mellowed a lot (she was reasonably mellow before - a bit of an old hippy, you might say!) Things have improved in the last decade since I've lived away from her, (doesn't it always?!?!?!) And she's lost a bit of that copycat streak (is there in waves, I'd say). And nowadays, I could call her if I was in serious dire straights and she'd be there with bells on..... IP: Logged |
starrym Knowflake Posts: 204 From: boston Registered: Nov 2007
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posted May 09, 2008 03:35 PM
i can add - my moon (taurus) is opposite pluto (scorpio)love my mom. like many people mentioned here - she's very supportive. shes extremely trusting. she puts me first a lot. i have wonderful looooong conversations with her. she has taught me so so so much about myself and others through those conversations. she knows how to shake me up, get me frazzled, and then put me back down in safer ground than what i began on. she can be demanding and expect a lot from me. she doesnt let me cheat on life. she can detect my faults when i want them to slip by. over and over again, she rebuilds me in the most incredible way. she's always there for me. ive been through a lot together. i consider her my best friend IP: Logged | |