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darkdreamer
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posted May 16, 2008 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

no all these aspects were "midpoint-synastry". It means you calculate the midpoint of two planets in your chart.

For example:
I have Moon on 17° Aquarius (317°)
My Venus is on 6° Capricorn (276°)

The midpoint of those two planets is 296,5° or 26° Capricorn.

That would be my Moon/Venus-midpoint. Now this guy`s Venus is on 26° Capricorn, almost exactly on my Moon/Venus-midpoint, so he brings my Moon/Venus-combination to life.

On another site I found the interpretation for Moon-Venus: Essence of femininity. Devotion, tnederness, gentleness. "Ideal woman".

So he triggers these feelings inside of me I guess. analytically speaking his perception of an ideal woman, his perception of femininity (Venus) activates / stimulates Moon and Venus in me, sort of reminds me that I am a woman. I am only speaking hypothetically.

Antiscia: those are reflection-aspects, as if you put a mirror on the axis of 0°Capricorn - 0° Cancer (some use the Libra-Aries-axis).


"Antiscion - the shadow of a planet. Antiscia are also known as solstice points. Antiscia are arrived at by reflection of the axis of the solstices, which is a line from 0 degrees Cancer to 0 degrees Capricorn. The antiscion of a planet is regarded as if it is actually placed there. The opposition to this placing is known as the contrantiscion. Antiscia are used not only for planets, but for house cusps and Arabic Parts too. The degree of orb allowed is tight being just one to one and a half degrees at most. As an example, by reflection, a planet posited at 5 degrees Aries will have its antiscion at 25 degrees Virgo.


Sign
Antiscion Sign

Aries
Virgo

Libra
Pisces

Taurus
Leo

Scorpio
Aquarius

Gemini
Cancer

Sagittarius
Capricorn

Cancer
Gemini

Capricorn
Sagittarius

Leo
Taurus

Aquarius
Scorpio

Virgo
Aries

Pisces
Libra"


http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/dignity.html


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Lara
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posted May 17, 2008 09:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you DD
I still don't get how one finds that aspect though... l must be braindead at moment

As for midpoints:-

MINE
Sun / Moon
opposes his Osiris
opposes his Jupiter

Sun / Venus
opposes his Jupiter

Sun / Mars
conjunct his juno
square his mars

Moon / Venus

Moon / Pluto
conjunct his vertex
square his cupido
square his uranus
square his venus

Moon / AC
opposing his valentine

Venus / mars
(interestingly my venus/mars midpoint is EXACT conjunct my natal sun!!!)
opposes his aphrodite
conjunct his ceres

Venus / URanus
conjunct his vertex
square his chiron

Venus / Pluto
conjunct his vertex
square his venus
square his uranus
square his cupido

Venus / AC
opposes his valentine
square his vesta
square his pluto
square his PofF

Venus / Vertex
conjunct his IC

Node / Vertex
conjunct his IC
square his psyche

Node / Pluto
square his venus

Pluto / Vertex
conjunct his AC
opposes his DC
opposes his saturn

Eros / Psyche
semi square his mercury

Amor / Psyche
square his moon

Cupido / Psyche
square his valentine

Mars / Aphrodite
square his IC

Adonis / Aphrodite
opposes NN

Isis / Osiris
opposes his osiris

Venus / Valentine
conjunct exact his psyche
square exact his IC
square exact his MC

Kaali / Siva
conjunct his Isis

Siva / Parvati
conjunct his mercury

HIS
Sun / Moon
opposes my venus
opposes my saturn
opposes my NN

Sun / Venus 12virgo

Sun / Mars 17leo
square my adonis
my psyche
my IC
my MC

Moon / Venus

Moon / Pluto
opposes my sun
opposes my mercury

Moon / AC

Venus / mars

Venus / URanus

Venus / Pluto

Venus / Vertex
square my isis
square my mars

Node / Vertex
conjunct my sun
square my juno

Node / Pluto

Pluto / Vertex
square my adonis
square my psyche

Eros / Psyche

Amor / Psyche
semisquare my mercury

Cupido / Psyche 6taurus
conjunct my sun
conjunct my mercury

Mars / Aphrodite
conjunct my uranus
square my parvati

Adonis / Aphrodite

Isis / Osiris
opposing my moon

Venus / Valentine
conjunct my adonis
conjunct my psyche

Kaali / Siva
square my NN

Siva / Parvati

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darkdreamer
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posted May 18, 2008 05:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

in midpoint astrology you only use the hard aspects conjunction, opposition, square, semisquare and sesisquare, but no trines and sextiles.
The reason for this is, that the hard aspects seem to provide more energy and attention,t hey set things in motion.


For antiscia, it`s actually easy.

I have Sun on 26° Sagittarius

I know, that Sagittarius has it`s antiscion in Capricorn, so the exact antiscion degree must be in Capricorn.

To find the exact degree, you subtract 26 from 30 (because my Sun is on 26th degree of Sagittarius) - so my antiscion would be 4° Capricorn.


Moon on 17° Aquarius.
Aquarius has the antiscion in Scorpio.
I calculate:
30°-17 = 13
So the antiscion of my Moon is on 13° Scorpio


Mars on 5° Sagittarius
Again the antiscion will fall into Capricorn. So I calculate:
30 - 5 = 25
So, the antiscion of my Mars is on 25° Capricorn (almost exactly conjunct this guy`s Venus. lol)


Did I make things a bit clearer or even more blurry?

DD

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK finished those pesky midpoints :S

They look ok... lol but i'm a bit mad at them so taking so long!!!


MINE
Sun / Moon
opposes his Osiris
opposes his Jupiter

Sun / Venus
opposes his Jupiter

Sun / Mars
conjunct his juno
square his mars

Moon / Pluto
conjunct his vertex
square his cupido
square his uranus
square his venus

Moon / AC
opposing his valentine

Venus / mars
(interestingly my venus/mars midpoint is EXACT conjunct my natal sun!!!)
opposes his aphrodite
conjunct his ceres

Venus / URanus
conjunct his vertex
square his chiron

Venus / Pluto
conjunct his vertex
square his venus
square his uranus
square his cupido

Venus / AC
opposes his valentine
square his vesta
square his pluto
square his PofF

Venus / Vertex
conjunct his IC

Node / Vertex
conjunct his IC
square his psyche

Node / Pluto
square his venus

Pluto / Vertex
conjunct his AC
opposes his DC
opposes his saturn

Eros / Psyche
semi square his mercury

Amor / Psyche
square his moon

Cupido / Psyche
square his valentine

Mars / Aphrodite
square his IC

Adonis / Aphrodite
opposes NN

Isis / Osiris
opposes his osiris

Venus / Valentine
conjunct exact his psyche
square exact his IC
square exact his MC

Kaali / Siva
conjunct his Isis

Siva / Parvati
conjunct his mercury

HIS
Sun / Moon
opposes my venus
opposes my saturn
opposes my NN

Sun / Mars
square my adonis
my psyche
my IC
my MC

Moon / Pluto
opposes my sun
opposes my mercury

Venus / Vertex
square my isis
square my mars

Node / Vertex
conjunct my sun
square my juno

Pluto / Vertex
square my adonis
square my psyche

Amor / Psyche
semisquare my mercury

Cupido / Psyche
conjunct my sun
conjunct my mercury

Mars / Aphrodite
conjunct my uranus
square my parvati

Isis / Osiris
opposing my moon

Venus / Valentine
conjunct my adonis
conjunct my psyche

Kaali / Siva
square my NN


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future_uncertain
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posted May 18, 2008 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So would MC aspects count? These are the planets/angles in my husband's chart that aspect my MC:

Moon
Mercury
Venus
Mars
Saturn
Neptune
Pluto
AC
MC

all with orbs of 0-1 degrees, with the exception of Mercury, which is conjunt within 4 degrees.

What would this mean?

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darkdreamer
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posted May 19, 2008 12:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
future_ uncertain

I think MC-aspects count, after all a planet aspecting MC is aspecting IC at the same time, too.

In Uranian astrology (which works with midpoints) MC is a very important point.
For example I found this interpretation for the Venus/ MC - midpoint:

The romantic Ideal. Very attraction.


DD

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posted May 19, 2008 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the midpoint between sun scorp 23 and Venus sag 14 degrees?

Is it like this if you looked at it on a chart? X-----/-----x. Where "/" would be the midpoint. Basicaly drawn g a line between the two planets and the center of the line is the midpoint?

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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Lara
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posted May 19, 2008 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok whilst i'm on a roll

Venus/MC midpoint

his venus/MC
conjunct my pluto (0)
trine my mars (1)
trine my MC (1)
square my aphrodite (0)

my venus/MC
conjunct his ceres (1)
trine his MC (1)
opposes his Osiris (2)
opposes his aphrodite (0)


SO...

DW's of
venus/MC and
Aphrodite
MC


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darkdreamer
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posted May 19, 2008 05:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got Gemini,

the midpoint would be 3.5° Sagittarius.


Lara,

with midpoints oyu should only use conjunction, opposition, square, semisquare and sesisquare.

But still awesome aspects!

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posted May 19, 2008 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, here is two. Person A's sun/Venus midpoint conjunct person b's IC 1.5 degrees. Also person a's mercury, conjunct person b's IC 0 degrees. Does that have any significance?

Also, person a's moon/Juno midpoint conjunct person b's moon/Venus midpoint by 1 degree. Is that of any significance?

Also, who is affected more and how? The planet person or the midpoint person?

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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posted May 19, 2008 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, person A's Mars conjunct person b's sun/moon midpoint by 4 degrees. Is that of any significance also?

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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posted May 19, 2008 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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posted May 19, 2008 10:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Midpoint orbs should always be 2 degrees or less.

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posted May 20, 2008 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do the other ones I asked about mean?

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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darkdreamer
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posted May 20, 2008 03:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got Gemini,

"Person A's sun/Venus midpoint conjunct person b's IC 1.5 degrees."
Definitely important. I see the Sun-Venus-midpoint as if you had a Sun-Venus-conjunction.
Person B inner core (IC) would trigger appreciation, love and affection (Sun / Venus) in A.


"Also person a's mercury, conjunct person b's IC 0 degrees."
Yes, I think so, if you read the beginning of this thread, a lot of couples seem to have MErcury aspecting IC (or another angle), especially if Mercury rules the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th or 10th house.


"Also, person a's moon/Juno midpoint conjunct person b's moon/Venus midpoint by 1 degree. Is that of any significance?"
I don`t know. But I don`t consider aspects between midpoints.

REason:
You have a billion midpoints in your chart as everyone else. All these midpoints are dormant. They are woken up by someone who puts a planet or angle on the place of oyur midpoint or in hard aspect to it.
But somehow I don`t see this work with midpoint to midpoint. but I can be wrong of course.


"Also, who is affected more and how? The planet person or the midpoint person?"
I think it`s the midpoint person. A midpoint is being triggered inside the midpoint person, let`s say Venus-Mars.
This midpoint is usually dormant, sleeping. It`s there, but not active, maybe person A doesn`T even know about his midpoint Venus-Mars.
But now comes another person B, along, and she has her ASC on the midpoint of A; her ASC will trigger his Venus-Mars-energies strongly, which probably results in a strong physical attraction. But person B just triggers it by only being herself, her body, her ASC. In a way she doesn`t even intend that. It just happens, because person A has his midpoint there.
But of course, once person A will react with passion, person B probably will not stay unimpressed. There`s no stronger aphrodisiac than feeling desired and wanted.

DD

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Lara
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posted May 20, 2008 03:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But somehow I don`t see this work with midpoint to midpoint. but I can be wrong of course.


I totally agree DD which is why l was fazed when a member of another forum told me that midpoints to my composite were negative!!

That is like a midpoint to a midpoint aspect LOL!

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darkdreamer
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posted May 20, 2008 03:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

nope, I wouldn`T mind that.
You know you have fantastic synastry and more importantly a deep love for each other.

Did you see my post in the "significance of asteroid" thread regarding the pattern I found?

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posted May 20, 2008 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darkdreamer, I REALLY appreciate that! Thank you VERY much!

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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Lara
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posted May 30, 2008 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you see my post in the "significance of asteroid" thread regarding the pattern I found?

No l didn't cos i've been in NYC ith my man... but l will look now!


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Arnicka
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posted May 31, 2008 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dark Dreamer, This is part of the synastry I have with someone who I feel is very much a part of me, but it does have a lot of angle action and not so many planets involved, so Im wondering does it fit in with these rules?? Thanks!

His amor conj my mc [2]
My amor square his mc [2]

My asc trine his dsc [1]
His asc trine my dsc [1] – our asc are sextile, so this is why

My sun [asc ruler] sq his asc [2]
His sun [ic ruler] opp my asc [1]

My dsc ruler conj his dsc [1]

My asc conj his ic [1], his mc conj my dc [1]

His vertex axis falls on my ic/mc [1]
My vertex axis falls on his asc/dc [4]

My dsc ruler opp his dsc ruler – by sign, not aspect.

Btw, we have a great [my opinion] synastry but a strange composite. ive never considered how the angles hit each other and vertex etc because I dont know how to incorporate, can anyone say anything or especially have experience with so many angle connections or if this means anything at all? TY

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darkdreamer
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posted June 01, 2008 05:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arnicka,

personally I value the angles even higher than normal planetary aspect. That is because you will have a Venus-Mars-conjunction with everyone born a certain day.
BUT a conjunction of your ruler of DSC and hsi ruler of ASC (just an example) will only happen at a certain time on the DAY. So, it`s the most individual connection possible - aspects to the angles, or between ruler and angle, or between rulers themselves.
It might even explain why you don´t fall in love with everyone born on the same day.

"My asc trine his dsc [1]
His asc trine my dsc [1] – our asc are sextile, so this is why"
Well, it`s not a "real" double whammy, because the same angle in both charts is involved. BUT still it looks easy, harmonious and nice. It would be much stronger if there was a conjunction or opposition. But the trine is the next best one in my opinion.


"My sun [asc ruler] sq his asc [2]"
Which means that your ASC-ruler squares his DSC, also; that is like having a Mars - Venus-square (with you being Mars.
I`m uncertain how to interprete the square, but I think basically there is a strong attraction, but with several "bumps" and difficulties included - it`s a square after all.


"His sun [ic ruler] opp my asc [1]"
So his IC ruler conjuncts your DSC? A very close and intimate connection. Yes, definitely a winner!

"My dsc ruler conj his dsc [1]"
Also a good one. Like a Venus-Venus-conjunction (of course it`s not EXACTLY the same as the planetary aspect, but it helps to translate it this way, makes it easier to grasp the meaning).
Maybe it means that basically you share a very similiar view (conjunction) of relationships (DSC). But you`d have to look at all the constellations concerning the DSC to back that up, natally and synastrically.


"My asc conj his ic [1], his mc conj my dc [1]"
Wow, that is a STRONG one! Definitely a soulmate-aspect, as the angles are so often interchanged.

"His vertex axis falls on my ic/mc [1]
My vertex axis falls on his asc/dc [4]"
At least the first one is very strong; I don`t know if the orb of the second one is still valid; I would hope so, because that means that someone and me have a Venus-Antivertex-conjunction,a nd who wouldn´t want to have that?

However, Vertex always points to meetings that will transform you in some way. It doesn`t always mean that you will be together in heavenly bliss forever, but it will surely impact your life. Especially if Vertex is connected to the angles; on the IC it affects your deepest emotional core and probably also your home, family and even career.

"My dsc ruler opp his dsc ruler – by sign, not aspect."
It`s not as strong as an aspect, but I still would consider it as a kind of basic attraction.

DD

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posted June 02, 2008 01:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the reply - Definitely more to consider, esp the insight into the asc ruler sq dsc - never thought of that. Much appreciated

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posted July 29, 2008 04:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

i am doing the synastry for 2 friends of mine (to keep myself busy) and l came up with these DW's for them. May l ask you what you think?

His PF conjunct her her karma (3)
His karma quincunx her PF (1)

his pluto square her osiris (0)
his osiris opposes her pluto (0)

His karma conjunct her Chiron (4)
His Chiron opposes her karma (2)

His DNA trine her psyche (3)
His psyche trine her DNA (2)

his Pluto opposes her Osiris (0)
his osiris square her Pluto (0)

his sun conjunct her venus (0)
his venus conjunct her sun (0)

his sun conjunct her Chiron (1)
his Chiron conjunct her sun (1)

his mercury conjunct her venus (2)
his venus conjunct her mercury (1)

his moon conjunct her saturn (2)
his Saturn trine her moon (3)

his venus sesqudrate her Pluto (0)
his Pluto opposes her venus (6)

his juno trine her AC (3)
His AC conjunct her juno (0)

His karma quincunx her kaali (2)
His kaali opposes her karma

Do you get a feel for how this relationship is please cos l really don't. It's a mix of sexual and spiritual to me. Maybe karmic too?

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posted July 30, 2008 06:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As important as double whammies are, they alone will not provide the complete picture of a relationship. Actually oyu have to asess the natals first and look at the position of Venus, Mars, Sun, Moon, ASC and the ruler of 1st, 7th, 5th, 4th and 8th house natally and synastrically to see HOW deep exactly the interchange reaches.


But of course an exact double whammy of Sun-Venus is something very very beautiful to have, as it signifies a great deal of affection, warmth and love between two people. There`s a lot of warm attraction, even though not necessarily very sexual (unless of course Sun or Venus rule 5th, 1st or 8th hous or the conjunction itself is aspected strongly by Mars, Pluto or even Uranus).

Venus-Mercury is good for a loving exchange of words; good for communication.

Moon - Saturn makes this being rather karmic and provides the necessary glue, gives the sincerity that Mercury-Venus lacks.

Venus seisquare Pluto is very exact, therefore I think thereis some obsessive streatk to it (the opposition is far too wide to count as something individual)


Juno - ASC: that I like. Maybe they are meant to have a relationship and being commited to each other?

Karma - Chiron; Sun-Chiron and even Pluto-Osiris makes me think that there are also some wounds they have to heal together.


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