posted June 06, 2008 06:15 PM            

Exactly......that's my point

posted June 06, 2008 06:25 PM              

Heartbreak Transit:
Transit Saturn aspects natal Chiron

Culmination Transit:
Transit Chiron aspects natal Saturn"

posted June 06, 2008 06:49 PM              

But one thing that sent a shiver down my spine, because I have a dear friend stuck in a bad marriage to whom this applies to:

Saturn-Chiron midpoint conjunct natal planet: Saturn bond of dominance.

He has very difficult synastry with his wife by either traditional synastry or Magi synasty standards. No harmonious aspects between any personal planets at all, but several oppositions, plus a couple squares and quincuxes. Her Saturn tightly squares his moon and also tightly squares his moon's ruler. And her Pluto opposes his Venus.

posted June 06, 2008 07:12 PM              

That would make more sense for your friend's chart, as Saturn bonds of dominance only work when there are also good aspects, otherwise how could it glue you to someone? Your friend and his wife share quincunxes.

Right enough though, the Saturn/Chiron midpoint conjunct his Sun would be a powerful dominance bond which would make it extremely difficult for him to leave her and make it very easy for her to take advantage of him or deceive him IF SHE WOULD WISH TO. Sounds like she uses it. But Saturn square Moon is even worse I think.

posted June 07, 2008 04:52 AM              

You mentioned on page 1:

"Venus-Pluto linkage: Sexual linkage. The most long-lasting of them. The conjunction can mean obsession, especially of the Venus person"

Does this mean 'especially FOR the Venus person", or is the Pluto person really obsessing over the venus person?

Thanks,

posted July 18, 2012 02:04 PM            

http://www.magiastrology.com/lessons.php

Beyond that introduction, they also have their much longer free "mini-book" for download in a pdf file. It is in two parts: Chapters 1-7, and 8-14.
http://www.magiastrology.com/mini-book.php

There are a few chapters beyond this, saved for those who pay for the entire book. ...But this was written several years ago, and they have introduced many more concepts from this time (and they continue to introduce, based on ongoing research). There is so much to peruse at their site, in their examples; as well as at the sites of other Magi practitioners, where you can glean most of the concepts from.

Here is one Magi astrologer, who I've mentioned before, whose info I seem to find well organized and presented. Here is her page for self-learning:
http://www.magihelena.com/magi_learning.htm

As others have said, who don't put much stock in this field of astrology...I think it is important to remember that they base all this so-called research on celebrity data--famous people and their relationships--so it is hardly a random data pool! Though, I would assume that practitioners are gathering their own data, to support or tweak the concepts handed down from on-high by the Magi Society, based on their own dealings with private clients(non-famous and otherwise).

posted July 20, 2012 09:29 AM            

My most recent discovery is that I may become verrrry old as I just read this. Well I already was aware of that MAGI Fountain-of-youth aspect being a Sun/Neptune enhancement (= conj./trine/quincunx/(contra-parallel) but as I read the below it's not ONLY the Sun/Neptune that bestows the native with longevity & youth but also Jupiter/Neptune and even Sun/Mars.

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26. Neptune Enhancement of the Sun gives natives the athletic ability that makes them much more durable than other athletes. (Look younger and live longer too.) This Enhancement occurs only about two weeks a year. (When occurring in both longitude and declinations, it is a Planetary Eclipse.) The Neptune enhancement of the Sun is not the only aspect that increases longevity, but it is the most powerful one, and increases longevity to the greatest extent. The Jupiter enhancement of Neptune is interpreted as expansion and increase (Jupiter) of longevity (Neptune). Another is Mars enhancement of the Sun.

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I have both enhancements in the declinations Sun/Neptune and Jupiter/Neptune and both within 10 min. orb.
Jupiter/Neptune in fact is a BI-level aspect as it's also present in the Longitudes where retro-neptune applying to Jupiter (conj.) at orb 3'40 but that would count due to what they call a 'cumulative effect'.

posted July 20, 2012 10:36 AM            

Jupiter, Uranus, moon, Neptune are all parallel in my chart I believe.

posted July 21, 2012 10:19 AM            

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Magi Pyramid: A term in Magi Astrology referring to the condition where in the declinations, at least 3 planets are each in aspect to one another. This usually occurs when 3 planets are all parallel to each other, but it is possible for it to occur when 1 planet is contra-parallel to 2 planets, which are, in turn, parallel to each other. To qualify for being a Magi Pyramid, the aligning planets can be any combinations of Sun, Venus, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, or Chiron

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posted July 25, 2012 06:54 AM            

If you like to stare at the visual wheel reduce the orb to 70% (= close to the orbs they use) and choose for "add aspect lines to Chiron" or "add aspect lines to all" (for Vesta/Juno etc.) to make your (synastry) wheel.

posted July 25, 2012 11:12 AM            

They're all conjuncty..

posted July 28, 2012 11:53 AM            

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Earth-Moon Complex: In a heliocentric chart, Magi Astrology refers to the Earth as the Earth-Moon Complex. From the perspective of the Sun looking out into the solar system there is little to no differentiation between the placement of the Earth and the placement of the Earth’s Moon. They are seen as combined. For the purpose of interpretation, the Earth-Moon is very similar to the Sun. However, aspects to the Earth –Moon are more powerful than to the Sun because the Earth-Moon is really two planets combined.

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posted July 29, 2012 07:20 AM            

found this but it seems to be talking about synastry.

posted July 29, 2012 08:37 AM            

And to specify a *LINKAGE* :

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LINKAGE: An inter-aspect that is formed by a conjunction, trine or parallel. May also be formed by a quincunx, contra-parallel or contra-latitude IF neither planet is Saturn.

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And so the difference between a Cinderella-ASPECT and a Cinderella-LINKAGE;

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Cinderella ASPECT: A Chiron enhancement to the Sun, Venus, Jupiter, Neptune or Pluto. A Chiron enhancement of the Moon is also a Cinderella aspect if the exact birth time is known. Natal Cinderella aspects are seen in the chart of people who have "Cinderella" moments in their romantic lives and/or career- times when they "miraculously" fall into something wonderful.

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Cinderella LINKAGE: A linkage between charts in any dimension from Chiron in one chart to the Sun, Moon (if exact birth time is known), Earth, Venus, Jupiter, Neptune or Pluto of another chart.

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