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Lara
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posted June 15, 2008 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Portobello road is in Notting Hill, London... probably where Jude lives

amazing! :O

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posted June 15, 2008 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
NOw I can see it.

Well, progressed synastry is making a synastry of your progressed planets and natal planets. You compare:

- your progressed to his progressed
- your progressed to his natal
- your natal to his progressed

But apparently only conjunction, opposition and trine seem to work as "relationship-starters"; other aspects may play a role in the nature or style of the relationship, but they don`t "trigger" it.


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posted June 15, 2008 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ok l already have this info on file so l will just list the EXACT and 1 deg aspects X

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posted June 15, 2008 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
"Portobello road is in Notting Hill, London"
You`re kidding, right?

I have been to london once many many years ago (10 years to be exact), but I didnīt stumble across THIS road.
But maybe I have read about it somewhere, and it sank into my subconsciousness, so I wasn`t aware of it, and for some reason it surfaced last night.

*deep sigh* It`s a good explanation to keep myself from freaking out here.


'Exact Venus-Mars-trine, THIS exact?
Wow, no wonder you are so strongly attracted.


EDIT:
Has there been something going on in the sky last night, cause the whole night, even before my weird dream, just felt so THICK with electricity and "magic", as if something extraodinary was going on.
Without reason all my hairs on my arm suddenly stood up and there was a great intensity in the air; it felt like one of these nights when the borders to the supernatural realm becomes VERY thin.

Did anyone else experience something like this?

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posted June 15, 2008 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
progressions for the day we met!!

my Pr ASC conjunct his Pr Sun (1)

my Pr ASC conjunct his Pr Pluto/ruler of his ASC (0)

my Pr venus square his Pr mars (0)

my Pr ASC square his Pr ASC (2)


his pr ASC trine my N asc (4)
his pr AC trine my N venus (3)
his pr venus opposes my N sun (3)


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posted June 15, 2008 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yes, exact venus trine mars in conversed progressions.
l mean it's literally 0'00.

i think something is going on in the sky at the moment... l have a huge headache today right on both my crown chakra and my 3rd eye and l only ever get these headaches when l do a lot of spiritual healing work!!

Maybe we are quickening towards 2012 now, seeing as solstice is in a few days

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posted June 15, 2008 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
So, if we apply WEstran`s rules strictly, you had:

"my Pr ASC conjunct his Pr Sun (1)"

This would have been the major attractor for the beginning of a relationship.
So I tend to think that the converse progressions maybe does play an important role here, too.

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posted June 15, 2008 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
that pr ASC conjunct his pr sun is normal progressions though.

The venus/mars trine is the conversed.

Is it worth looking at progressed composite too?

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posted June 15, 2008 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I had that, too, an unbelievably strong headache yesterday, which was even still there, when I awoke for the first time this morning.

It felt like something was "burning out" my head along with the area of my 3rd eye; actually it almost felt like all energy and intensity had been drawn and focused exactly there.

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posted June 15, 2008 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yes! That is exactly how l feel today - how strange that we both had the same headache.

I am also trying to let go of a lot of ex relationship patterns so l don't drive my man away anymore! I think lots of aspects are pushing us at the moment, maybe.


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posted June 15, 2008 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I have worked on letting go of unhealthy patterns in relationships, too.

I just looked at the transits.

TR Mars is exactly conjunct the SN at the moment on 20° Leo, which widely opposes my Moon on 17° Aquarius and trines my natal Chiron exactly.

There`s also an opposition of Kaali to Pluto on 1° Cancer - Capricorn, which falls onto my natal Sun-Venus-midpoint.

Transit Karma is also exactly conjunct my Eros and Vertex and opposes my Sun-Moon-mp exactly.

Transit Valentine is exaclty opposite my own natal VAlentine.


If I look at the draco Transits the Mars / SN conjunction is on 00° Libra conjuncting my own Draco Kaali.

Transiting Draco Kaali is exactly conjunct my Draco Chiron and Transiting draco Pluto is opposing my Draco Chiron - a forced, powerful healing?

Transiting Draco Valentine is exactly opposing my own natal Venus (and curiously, Transiting Draco Valentine is exactly conjunct Jude Law`s natal VAlentine by 0°07. LOL).


So, yes, I say it`s safe to say there IS something going on in the sky.
And for me it shows very much a Kaali-Pluto-Chiron-face.

Oh I forgot to mention, the current Transiting Sun-Venus-conjunction in Gemini falls into my 7th house and opposes my Sun and DSC-ruler Mercury exactly.

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posted June 15, 2008 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I thought i'd look to see if his sun/moon midpoint is activated in the conversed progression or the date we met cos in our synastry you know it's conjunct exact my SN.

his sun/moon midpoint 24'cancer is square my pr conversed mars (2) and square his own pr conversed ASC exact.
It is square my N moon exact and my N venus (2)

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posted June 15, 2008 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
VERY interesting, your transits!!!

Let me check mine to see if there is some similar pattern between us.

jeepers
T sun is square my N moon (1)
T venus is trine my N venus EXACT! lol!!!!!!!!!!
T venus square N pluto EXACT
T jupiter trine N sun exact
T saturn trine N sun (1)
T venus opposes N aphrodite (0)
T neptune trine N aphrodite (0)
T pluto trine N AC (0)
T NN opposes N AC (0)
T Armor square N sun (0)
T aphrodite square N venus (1)
T aphrodite trine N mars (0)
T eros sextile N sun (0)
T psyche conjunct N IC (1)

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posted June 15, 2008 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
OMG i'm so stupid - cos we were looking at my transits of day l met Mike, l forgot to change the date LOL
so those transits above are for the date l met him not now!!!

The NOW transits are:

T sun/venus conjunct have just separated from conjuncting my APHRODITE!!!
T sun/venus square N uranus (1)
T moon trine N cupid (1)
T mars trine N venus (1)
T mars square N mars (1)
T jupiter opposes N armor (1)
T neptune opposes N neptune (1)
T pluto square N chiron (1)
T pluto trine N AC (0)
T NN square N mars (1)
T chiron square N mars (0)
T osiris opposes N venus (1)

uffff so much mars - karma action!


Mike (my SO) has sun/venus/eros/cupid transiting his 8th house LOL
and
T venus opposing N eros (0)
T pluto conjunct N eros (0)
LOL
maybe he is coming round after all!

hmmmm the day we met he had
T eros conjunct N IC exact
and l had
T psyche conjunct N IC
A-mazing!

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posted June 15, 2008 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
T-Pluto square your Chiron - so you also have Chironic things going on.


BTW the Mars-SN conjunction falls exactly onto my Cupid - it would make sense that I`m thinking of Jude Law with this transit, because our synastry has many Cupid-aspects:

His Cupid conjuncts my Mars, Neptune, NN and ASC (0) and sextiles my Pluto and opposes my dr Moon.
My Cupid trines his Mercury (0) and Karma (0) and sextiles his Uranus; it also opposes his dr Neptune and dr Cupido exactly and conjuncts his dr DC - I never saw THAT before - we have a dw of Cupido-ASC. ROFL


His dr Cupido conjuncts my Moon and conjuncts my dr Uranus.
My dr Cupido conjuncts his Venus and ASC (0).

ROFL What a mass of Cupido-aspects. It`s ridiculous!


It also makes sense that for you Aphrodite has been highlighted, because it just plays such an important role in your synastry with Mike.

But those headaches and painful healing might have to do with all those Chiron-NN-Pluto-Mars-aspects for you now.


EDIT:
Since I don`t have a clear grasp of how to interprete Cupido I searched a bit for it, and that is what came up:

"Cupido is the look of love, how attractive the couple appears to each other and to
others together. The attraction comes from the deep instinctual soul level and draws
us out of our separation in our search for our inner beauty as it appears in another.
This is what turns us on sexually and excites us emotionally about the other.
Example: In the composite chart of Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton the asteroid
Cupido is conjunct by 3 degrees Jupiter (8th house) which is ruler of the Midheaven.
Composite Saturn (9th house) also sits a few degrees away from the Midheaven,
implying that it was difficult for either of them to run away and this would explain
marrying each other twice. Richard Burton was quote as saying on Elizabeth Taylor:
"I might run from her for a thousand years and she is still my baby child. Our love is
so furious that we burn each other out." In 1969, Richard Burton bought her one of
the world's largest and most beautiful diamonds from the jeweler Cartier. It was
called the "Burton-Cartier Diamond," to the then-"world's most famous couple."
Source: www.imdb.com Note that composite Venus (12th house) is trine
Jupiter/Cupido by implication through its trine with Ceres at 29 Libra."

Hmm, stuff for thought.

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posted June 15, 2008 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yes Aphrodite does, you are right.. you reminded me of our karma/aphrodite conjunct DW!!!

LOL DD I can't see your post for CUPID!!!!
My gosh - cupid is everywhere in your aspects. wow

DD,

it's a shame you can't look up the Dr transits - you eally need to meet him!

I just glanced at mine and they are pretty draconic!
T pluto square his N venus (0) lol
T mars opposes his N eros (0)
T chiron opposes his N sun (0)

T sun trine my N psyche (0)
T moon square my N chiron (0)
T pluto trine N aphrodite (0)
T NN conjunct N saturn (0)
T chiron opposes N eros (0)

I conclude that some things are 'written in the stars'

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posted June 15, 2008 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I will not meet him, but at least I`m going to see him.

Why can`t I look up the draconic transits?
Well, I could have a glance for next year, even if just for fun.


EDIT:

The article I quoted is from this link: http://www.astrocollege.com/campus/libraries/Unravelling_Mysteries_of_Love.pdf

There are nice explanations on some asteroids.
DD

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posted June 15, 2008 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
OMG guess who JUST texted me out of the blue! The dancefloor guy l met, you remember? The one who blew me away? lol

He wants to know if l wanna take a trip to mars with him ROFL!

Of course you can do draco transits - l forgot you had a date with him


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posted June 15, 2008 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Is this the same guy, you felt that instant attraction to?

A trip to Mars? On a day when Mars is exactly conjunct karmic SN? ROFL
He doesn`T know about astrology, does he?

Jip, I have a date with Mr Law. ROFL

But for now I just looked at the tropical, what dw`s I have with him.

Here`s my finding:


his Venus conjunct my Neptune (3)
my Venus semisextile his NEptune (0.01)

his Venus very wideely sextile my Pluto (4)
my Venus square his Pluto (1)

his Venus opposes my Kaali (0)
my Venus conjunct his Kaali (2)

his Mars conjunct my Valentine (1)
my Mars quinkunx his Valentine (1)

his Saturn widely conjunct my SN (5)
my Saturn conjunct his SN (0)

his Saturn conjunct my Karma (0)
my SAturn quinkunx his Karma (3)

his NEptune ocnjunct my ASC (0)
my NEptune conjunct his ASC (0)

his Neptune trine my IC (1)
my NEptune trine his IC (2)

his Pluto trine my DC (2)
my Pluto trine his DC (0)

his luto conjunct my MC (0)
my Pluto conjunct his MC (0)

his NN ssquare my Chiron (3)
my NN trine his Chiron (3)
- his Chiron is also EXACTLY conjunct my Part of Reincarnation

his NN sextile my Siva 82)
my NN sextile his Siva (1)

his Osiris square my IC (0)
my Osiris square his IC (0)

his Eros trine my Vertex (0)
my Eros conjunct his Vertex (3)


and some other interesting conjunctions and oppostions:

his Sun conjunct my Venus, Isis and Osiris

his Venus conjunct my NN and Neptune and opposes my Karma

his Mars conjunct my Valentine and Amor

his Saturn conjunct my Karma and Kaali

his Chiron opposite my Aphrodite

his VErtex conjunct my Vertex

his ASC conjunct my Mars, Neptune, NN and ASC

his VAlentine opposite my Venus

his Amor conjunct my Psyche
(in the Draco`s there`s even my dr Eros exactly conjunct his Psyche with orb of 0°01)

his Cupid conjunct my Mars, Neptune, NN, ASC and Lust

his Juno conjunct my Amor and Mars


ROFL


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posted June 15, 2008 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
s this the same guy, you felt that instant attraction to?
A trip to Mars? On a day when Mars is exactly conjunct karmic SN? ROFL
He doesn`T know about astrology, does he?


LOL!!!!!! YES! It's the same guy... oh lord.
He doesn't know anything about astrology lol

wow - your date is going to be electrifying!

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posted June 15, 2008 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
DD, l read that article in that link WOW

I went ahead and worked out the true BML for our composite and it ends up being at

12.5' cancer
which doesn't mean anything until... l mention
mercury 12'26 cancer
MC 12'50 cancer
Venus 13'10 cancer
valentine 9'24 libra
AC 11'39 libra
IC 12'50 capricorn

OMG - no bad aspects to saturn *phew* but it sounds so damn heavy LOL


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posted June 15, 2008 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Lilith conjunct Venus in the composite?
Sounds like a fatal, mmh, I mean fated attraction.


BTW are you going to see that dancerfloor-guy again? Only on a platonic level of course.


Oh and on another note, did you see how I did it once again?
Changed the subject to Jude Law, avoiding to delve too deep into my synastry with that singer I met last month?
God, I can`t believe it has been almost 4 weeks.

Did you ever experience something like that? That you didn`t WANT to think too much about someone, because the more you think about him, the more you feel like you are being drawn "in"? I`m not yet sure what this "in" is exactly, but it sometimes feel like some kind of "undertow".

Ah, I rather continue babbling about Jude Law, that seems to be less dangerous for my emotional balance.


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posted June 15, 2008 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Not sure if l will see him again else 'platonic' might go out of the window

Yes, the lilith/venus exact conjunct was almost too much for me.

Here is the true BML ephemeris, so you can do yours and Jude's
http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/osculating.txt

LOL yeah, l think concentrating on Jude is not such a bad thing for your emotional state.

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posted June 15, 2008 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I already checked the true Lilith on astro.com.


In the composite it is exactly conjunct Amor on 13° Capricorn.

Other aspects:
- square Chiron in 4th house
- exactly square Cupid in the 10th house (ROFL how did I know that Cupid would surface again? )

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posted June 15, 2008 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

Astro don't use true lilith. They use mean lilith and it's totally different.


Remember l always thought that my lilith was conjunct his DC and his was conjunct my AC? Well that was off Astro.

The link you just gave me is for TRUE BML and these were the differences in my results:

my BML trine his mercury (1)
my BML square his mars (1)
my BML conjunct his Juno (2)


his BML trine my sun (1)
his BML trine my mercury (1)
his BML sextile my juno (1)


totally not lilith/AC

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