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Azalaksh
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posted July 24, 2008 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eclipse blurb from Anne Ortelee:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018497.html

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posted July 25, 2008 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is more on eclipses

Eclipses, why are they such a big deal?
by Estelle Daniels

In astrology you don't have to be paying attention very long before you hear the phrase; "It's an eclipse!" But most people don't understand why eclipses are so important and/or dreaded.

First you need to know just exactly what an eclipse is. In astronomy, it's easy, when you get a full moon that turns all coppery and weird, that's a lunar eclipse. They aren't really common, but they do come about every few years. Then there are the solar eclipses, when the sun is blotted out by the moon. Those are fairly rare, separated by decades, and maps of the path of totality are shown and the phenomenon is explained (the moon is passing in front of the sun and the shadow falls on the earth) and warnings are issued to not look directly at the sun. People buy welder's glass so they can safely look at the sun, or they build a projection box, which is easier, cheaper and safer, but not as neat as using welder's glass.

Those are the astronomical eclipses, which are also considered eclipses by the astrological crowd as well. But there are other eclipses that the astrologers pay attention to, that the astronomers dismiss as mere passing curiosities, and are not remarked upon.

In an astrological ephemeris, you can learn to spot an eclipse. It's really quite easy. All eclipses happen at the New Moon (Solar eclipses) or the Full Moon (Lunar eclipses). However, not every New or Full Moon is an eclipse. What makes a lunation (New and Full Moons) an eclipse? The Nodes. The Nodes of the Moon are mathematical points, and are considered "shadow planets" in Hindu astrology. They are eclipse markers, and they are included in the ephemeris mostly so people can see when the eclipses are. The Moon's Nodes are points that show where the Moon's orbit intersects the ecliptic — the Sun's orbit. The ecliptic is named that precisely because this is the line in the sky where eclipses happen. Nowhere else. The Nodes are always opposite each other, so the ephemeredes only show the North Node, and you are supposed to know the South Node is exactly opposite in the zodiac.

When a New or Full Moon is within 17 degrees (or so) of the North or South Node, it is an eclipse. Maybe it won't be visible where you are, or indeed anywhere on earth (some occur north or south of the poles), but astrologers consider it an eclipse. You can have as few as two or as many as seven eclipses in any given year. It all depends on the position of the Nodes and the New and Full Moons. Most commonly, eclipses occur in pairs, a solar and lunar or a lunar and solar, roughly two weeks apart. Then slightly less than six months afterward, it repeats.

The Nodes move in an apparent retrograde motion in the zodiac in an 18.6 year period. Sometimes you will see the terms "mean node" and "true node". The mean node is the approximate place the actual Node is as it moves in a regular steady motion backward through the zodiac. The true node is the actual mathematical position of the Node which can vary in speed and direction. OK I said they move retrograde, but in actuality it's more like three steps backward, one step forward, three steps backward etc. remember these are mathematical points, and vector analysis has allowed computers to take into account the slight wobbles in the orbits of the earth and moon so as to get an extremely accurate placement of these points which do actually wander a bit. Most charts use mean nodes, though some programs allow you to choose. They may vary by a couple degrees, but it's not a big deal.

OK, so you see a New Moon (Moon and Sun are conjunct— in the same degree) which happens every 29 days or so. You then check to see where the North Node is. If it's within 17 degrees of that degree, or the degree opposite, it's a solar eclipse. A Full Moon occurs when the Moon is in the opposite degree from the Sun, at the halfway point between New Moons. If either the Moon or Sun is within 17 degrees of the North Node, then the Full Moon is also a lunar eclipse.

So you find an eclipse, or two or more, now what? What makes these things so important?

The other planets in astrology all exhibit retrograde motion from time to time. The Moon and Sun do not. But they do have these eclipses. In a way, eclipses have a similar energy to retrogradation, more intense, something hidden and not immediately accessible, a reversal of energies. After all, the Sun or Moon is potentially blotted out. So what should be prominent and visible is not. That's a big deal.

To see if you will be personally affected by any particular eclipse, look at your natal chart. (You need a full natal chart to do this.) If the eclipse is within three degrees conjunct or opposite a planet or your Ascendant or Midheaven, then it becomes personal for you and you can expect change in the areas governed by that planet or point. Further, you can also expect change in the houses that planet rules, irregardless of the actual house the planet resides in. As an example, the eclipse is at 4 degrees of Virgo, and your Venus is at 6 degrees of Pisces, then your Venus will be affected by the eclipse. Now assuming that Venus is in your ninth house, and presuming equal size houses, that eclipse will also bring change in the houses where Taurus and Libra (ruled by Venus) are on the cusp, which would be the 11th and 4th houses. So look for change in the areas of law, religion and higher education (9th), friends, groups and aspirations (11th) and home, family matters, and the past (4th), as well as relationships, how you relate socially and women in general (Venus).

Big change can be good or bad, but usually people are a bit afraid of change, so eclipses are considered difficult influences. But sometimes what at first seems bad, can eventually turn out to be good. One woman I know has a solar eclipse on her Venus, which ruled her 11th house of friends. She decided to pull up stakes and move because she just couldn't stand her friends, they were nasty and unhelpful and she felt used and undervalued, and she wanted to pursue her dreams of a better more prominent career path. So she got a new better job and moved across country. She settled in, made new friends, and those friends introduced her to the man who became her husband, the son of a billionaire. She had a child at the age of 39 and was amazingly happy, richer than she ever imagined, with a wonderful family and a full happy life. This is a true story, and the marriage happened within three years of leaving the old locale. So the eclipse was the kick in the butt to get a new job and set of friends and through that, make a whole new, better happier and more wonderful life for herself. Now, she was not necessarily happy with the original change, but she did it, and in the end it was way better than before.

So eclipses are not necessarily bad, they just shake up the old way of doing things.

Eclipses are also important in the arena of world events. The chart of the eclipse itself is studied by astrologers and the degree of the eclipse is a sensitive point for a year or longer. When other planets conjunct or oppose that degree— even months or more than a year after the eclipse, it can trigger delayed reactions of the energy of that eclipse. This is how some people are trying to predict/pinpoint earthquakes and other earth phenomena.

An eclipse can also cause change or problems in a country, if the eclipse is conjunct or opposite a planet or ascendant or midheaven of the country's chart. (Yes countries, states and other municipalities have charts— usually it's cast for noon of the day of incorporation. So do corporations, houses, vehicles and other non-living things.) The effects are the same as for a person, but the houses have a slightly different meaning for a municipality or country than they do for a person.

Then the chart of the eclipse itself can be problematic if another planet is conjunct, opposite or square the degree of the eclipse. That planet's energies colors the already heightened energies of the eclipse. If it's a pleasant planet— like Venus, it's no big problem usually. But if it's one of the planets that can cause sudden upsetting change, Mars, Uranus, or Pluto, it could be a bit rougher ride. And if there are two or three planets in a pattern tied into the eclipse, it becomes more intense and "interesting."

Incidentally, astrologers don't always take into account whether the eclipse is actually visible or one of the "less important" types of eclipses. If it is visible, and you are in the path of totality, it can be considered quite a bit stronger in influence. But an eclipse that occurs outside the earth's visibility can cause just as much change as one that is actually visible. It all depends if the degree hits your chart, or your country's chart or is with other planets that make it more intense and energized.

Eclipses are like "super" new and full moons. Their influence can last from six months (the average Lunar eclipse) to a year (the average Solar eclipse) or more (big eclipses with other close planetary aspects/patterns or perhaps one that it total in the area you live). These time frames are approximate. Sometimes the energies around the eclipse itself are really high and people are just keyed up and weird. Sometimes the eclipse itself seems to pass almost unnoticed, but three months later when Mars and Jupiter hit that point, all hell breaks loose. It's tough to tell beforehand, and even sometimes after the fact.

Many predictions are made from eclipse charts, and some actually come to pass. Many do not, but that's not necessarily a bad thing if the prediction is for disturbing or catastrophic happenings.

So hopefully you have a better understanding of eclipses and why astrologers pay such close attention to them. Keep watch in your own chart, and you can see the areas where change may be coming for you or loved ones. It's better to know beforehand and be a bit prepared, than have it hit without warning. That's one reason people go to see astrologers after all.

© 2000, 2004 Estelle Daniels, all rights reserved.
http://www.estelledaniels.com/Articles/Eclipses.html

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posted July 26, 2008 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I thought I would add mine. It should be interesting to see how it plays out for all of us!

Solar Eclipse on August 1st:

hits our composite 11th house
hits my 8th house
hits his 1st house
hits my Sun/Moon midpoint at 9 Leo
hits my Uranus at 9 Leo

Lunar Eclipse on August 16th:

hits our composite 5th house
hits my 3rd house
hits his 8th house

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posted July 26, 2008 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How wonderful!

On August 1st,

the eclipse will be conjunct my natal Moon at 10'28 Leo and opposite my natal Mars at 10'14 Aquarius. It will also trine natal Saturn at 7'46 Sag, and square natal Pluto at 7'06 Scorpio.

I'm excitedddd :-)

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posted July 27, 2008 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This eclipse is exactly on my birthday, on top of my Leo sun in 2nd house, and opposite Jupiter in Aqua 8th house. On top of that Saturn is sitting on top of my Venus-Moon conj in Virgo, and Pluto opposite my natal Saturn.

To be honest i am really worried and scared for my mental health at this moment! my work is a mess. Then I just received a knock-out "punch" regarding my love relationship 2 weeks ago, and I am still feeling literally dead in my heart.

I hope that Lara is right, that it will be a good eclipse for all of us. After all, i feel there is nothing worse than what has happen to me lately. But then who knows, catastrophes don't come alone.

oh well, that's my depressed heart speaking. Sorry... Anyone has any idea? please throw me a straw.

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hi, 8th moon - this one is just inside my 7th house, and fittingly opposes my eros/psyche conjunction in 1st, conjuncting my juno AND my daughter's moon. i read that eclipses aspecting the moon refer to changes of home and career - and it's looking like that's falling into place (happily) for my daughter. i am looking forward to the next few months/years immensely with this! thanks for the thread...X

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posted August 01, 2008 12:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUMP!

Just a reminder for everyone. Don't forget your new moon wishes!!!

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posted August 01, 2008 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know the exact time of the eclipse?

The Sun, the eclipse, the New Moon and Mercury will be conjunct my 9'55 Sun/Moon midpoint, my 9'10 Venus/Mars midpoint, my 9'36 Sun/S Node midpoint, my 8'39 Nada, my 10'37 Moon/mercury midpoint, my 10'13 Solstice Saturn and my 11'50 Draconic Sun. It will be opposite my 9'39 Aquarius Lust and square my 9'36 Taurus Sun/N Node midpoint.

I'm feeling it already...big-time.

As I write this Astro.com says the Sun is currently at 9'26 Leo, the Moon is at 8'10
Leo and Mercury is at 12'13 Leo. Venus is at 24'02 Leo (conjunct my 24'55 Leo Venus, my 24'29 N Node/ASC midpoint, my 24'27 Pandora, my 25'14 Sun/Uranus midpoint, my 23'17 DNA, my 23'39 Mean Black Moon Lilith and my 23'56 MC/Saturn midpoint).

On top of all that, transit Chiron and transit N Node are squaring my natal Saturn. Transit Saturn is conjunct my Draconic Sun/Moon midpoint, my Vesta, my Vertex and my Venus/Pluto midpoint.

Some very intense energies swirling around me right now.

Edited: Just looked it up and the eclipse takes place at 6:09 AM EST and the New Moon will be exact at 6:12 AM EST...so just two hours away. No wonder I'm feeling it so strongly!

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The eclipse conjuncts my ASC (13 deg Leo), it conjuncts my man's Moon (10 deg Leo) and opposes his Sun+DC (13&14 deg Aquarius)...

I wonder what's in store...

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posted August 01, 2008 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"To be honest i am really worried and scared for my mental health at this moment! my work is a mess. Then I just received a knock-out "punch" regarding my love relationship 2 weeks ago, and I am still feeling literally dead in my heart."

"I hope that Lara is right, that it will be a good eclipse for all of us. After all, i feel there is nothing worse than what has happen to me lately. But then who knows, catastrophes don't come alone."

"oh well, that's my depressed heart speaking. Sorry... Anyone has any idea? please throw me a straw."


I am in the same boat,and so I can relate. All I can say is just hang in there,have faith,and believe that things will turn out well in the end. That's what I do. That's what keeps me going,fighting,and persevering.

I wish you all the best. I wish that for everybody in lindaland.

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posted August 01, 2008 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...this is an interesting eclipse for me since it seems to be all about responsibility.

The solar eclipse will be be loosely conjuncting Saturn (at 2 degrees Leo... does this count?) and my IC at 6'44 Leo.

From what I've read on the various links, a conjunction to Saturn represents taking responsibility. When the lunar eclipse occurs, it will be opposing my Saturn which means letting go of responsibility...but at the same time conjuncting my MC which is about taking responsibility.

Could it be that I am supposed to be giving up emotional responsibilities and taking on responsibilities related to my personality and/or career?

Did this make sense??? It made sense in my head.

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posted August 01, 2008 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's my mom's birthday today.

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posted August 01, 2008 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww...thank her for us, AG! We're lucky to have you!

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posted August 02, 2008 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 03, 2008 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have eclipse happenings to share, or is it too early for that?

8th

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posted August 03, 2008 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes.....I wrote about it on

The thread on Asteroid,Sunshine - Florida?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018592.html


I know there is a lot more to it than just changing my mind about activism

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posted August 03, 2008 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus,

So...does this mean that your move to FL will "seal the deal" with your gal? (Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere...I may have missed out on something.)

Any way, I'm glad to hear that things seem to be working out!

8th

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We were sitting outside when the eclipse happened, didn't see it or even remember it at that moment, but decided to go on a trip together :-)

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posted August 04, 2008 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A quote to share from a friend of mine who is a children's Macmillan nurse

quote:
you've got to have hope, else how will you get out of bed in the morning?

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posted August 04, 2008 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Glaucus,

So...does this mean that your move to FL will "seal the deal" with your gal? (Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere...I may have missed out on something.)

Any way, I'm glad to hear that things seem to be working out!

8th"


I would love to relocate to St. Petersburg,Florida to be with Meghann. The stuff that I found and happened to me last Saturday seems like I meant to relocate there. However,things aren't working out with her yet.


Jupiter in Sagittarius in 3rd,Sunshine in Gemini in 9th,Megaira in Virgo in 4th T-Square
Hera in Cancer in 10th,Flora-Megryan in Taurus in 8th/9th, Megaira in Virgo in 12th Minor Grand Trine
Hera in Cancer in 10th,Flora-Megryan in Taurus in 8th/9th,Jupiter in Sagittarius in 3rd,Sunshine in Gemini in 9th Boomerang (A yod with an object opposing the apex)
Sun-Meglass in Scorpio in 2nd oppose Flora-Megryan in Taurus in 8th/9th
Moon-Megantic in Pisces in 6th quintile Peterburgtrista in Sagittarius in 4th


I have Sun-Meglass in Scorpio in 2nd,Moon-Megantic in Pisces in 6th,Meigooni in Cancer in 10th Grand Trine
Hera and Meigooni are not only in a conjunction, but they also parallel with 3 minutes of arc.


Ceres in Leo in 11th,Eris in Aries in 8th,Megangross-Florey in Sagittarius in 8th Grand Trine
Floris-Jan in Scorpio in 3rd sextile Juno-Menghuan in Virgo in 1st
Megangross-Florey in Sagittarius in 4th conjunct IC in Sagittarius
Megangross-Florey in Sagittarius in 4th square Ascendant/Descendant axis
Megangross-Florey in Sagittarius in 4th sextile Uranus-Mego in Libra in 2nd
Florya in Sag in 4th square Juno-Menghuan in Virgo in 1st
Juno-Menghuan in Virgo in 1st, Eros in Libra in 2nd, Floris-Jan in Scorpio in 3rd,Florya in Sagittarius in 4th,Meges in Capricorn in 5th 12th Harmonic Configuration


I met her when she was living in New Hampshire. She relocated to St. Petersburg, Florida Spring of this year. My natal chart shows that she was meant to relocate there. It seems that I was meant to have a committed relationship with her,and she ends up Florida. Maybe I am meant to have a committed relationship with her in Florida. I hope that turns out to be the case.


I have to say that my pulling out the Sun out of the Tarot deck was an amazing synchronicity though as I was focusing on Florida,The Sunshine State. It was the only card that I touched from that deck. I just reached for a card and just drew it out, and just happened to be the Sun. I never had a tarot card synchronicity like that before. It does seem like a very good sign. Only time will tell though. It's interesting that transiting Peterburgtrista in 18'03 Cancer was in my 11th trining my Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd at that moment too.

Here's hoping that things will turn out well.


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posted June 01, 2023 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HRH-FishAreFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So awesome Glaucus posted the Eclipse article by Estelle Daniels. Estelle is presenting at our upcoming in-person NCGR meeting in Saint Paul, Minnesota this Sunday, June 4th, 2023.

For Minnesota and west central Wisconsin folks interested in attending, here's a link to the event:

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/astrologickal-magick-with-estelle-daniels-tickets-626616736527

Hosted by: North Star Astrology - Minnesota Chapter of NCGR

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