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Topic: Galactic Center anyone??
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 501 From: ca, usa Registered: Jan 2008
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posted July 23, 2008 02:43 PM
i have had a long history of attraction to people with important points in the last 7 degrees of sagittarius. it was only a year or so ago that i discovered that this is where Galactic Center sits - and at the moment Pluto is right on it! obviously astrology must be seriously affected by galactic center...the source of it all!..so my question is what significance do you find around GC, ie how does it affect you? and does anyone have any links to this kind of information as well?? IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Mercury Registered: Jul 2007
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posted July 23, 2008 02:46 PM
Where can I find info on this GC?------------------ Virgo Asc & Mars Gemini Sun Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house) Gemini Mercury Cancer Venus IP: Logged |
amowls Knowflake Posts: 866 From: Richmond, VA USA Registered: Dec 2007
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posted July 23, 2008 02:46 PM
My DSC is at 27 degrees Sag.I don't really know what the Galactic Center signifies because anything I google only SPECIFICALLY talks about the current Pluto conjunction. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 501 From: ca, usa Registered: Jan 2008
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posted July 23, 2008 04:53 PM
my dilemma exactly...but from what i understand about galaxies, everything is moving out from/ away from the center, so it has GOT to be a very important point...my Euterpe (asteroid named after the muse of music) is conjunct it as well. anyone have any light to throw on this?IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Mercury Registered: Jul 2007
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posted July 23, 2008 05:04 PM
I recently saw a science program on the discovery channel where this Cosmologist Juao Magueijo talked about the GC.Here is a link: http://roychristopher.com/joao-magueijo-frontier-cosmology ------------------ Virgo Asc & Mars Gemini Sun Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house) Gemini Mercury Cancer Venus IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 2528 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted July 23, 2008 06:54 PM
My ascendant is at exactly 28 degrees Sag - but I don't know how this exact conjunction to the GC affects me really. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 7410 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted July 23, 2008 06:59 PM
Articles and info on the GC here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008745.html And katatonic, you can google a string like "astrology galactic center" and come up with hits like this: http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2006/05/pluto_is_conjun.html http://theastrologypage.blogspot.com/2006/12/galactic-center-websites.html http://ezinearticles.com/?Astrology-and-the-Galactic-Center&id=184997 http://www.astrodynamics.net/Articles/Pluto-and-the-Galactic-Center.htm http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/galactic-center.php http://collaboratingwithfate.blogspot.com/2007/05/2012-galactic-centre-astrology.html IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 994 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted July 23, 2008 07:06 PM
Consider that both Katie Holmes and Brad Pitt were born with the Sun conjunct the Galactic Center and that Pluto has been playing ping-pong with their Sun's since around the end of 2005. Just wanted to add that to this post.Here is an article I found on the internet back in 2003: The Galactic Center (26*57 Sagittarius) The Center of our Milky Way Galaxy is proving to be a fascinating and practical addition to my clients' charts. Having studied it for 12 years now, my observations would indicate that it is probably the second strongest spot in any astrology chart, following the Sun. It is a stunning source of energy, motivation, and aspiration. The Galactic Center is the Sun of our Sun. It is the source of most of the gravitational energy present in our galaxy, and probably the source of most of the energy in any chart, transformed through our own Sun.
In 1932, Karl Jansky, a Bell Telephone Laboratories engineer, was searching for the source of static affecting overseas telephone lines. To find the source he built the first 95 foot movable radio- telescope to detect it. Part of the static turned out to be created by the center of our Galaxy at 26 degrees of Sagittarius. Astronomers paid little attention to the discovery, but to the astrology of consciousness, this discovery should rank right up there with the discovery of Pluto in 1930.
In the late 1960's, astronomers finally honed in on the GC (Galactic Center) with radio and infrared instruments. They were astounded by the immense energies to be found there. A huge Black Hole is thought to be at the center, about the size of a large star, but containing the mass of four million suns. The staggering amount of material being drawn into the black hole radiates energy at many frequencies.
According to "Astrophysical Directions" by Michael and Margaret Erlewine, energy emerges from the GC over 2 entire degrees of longitude near the last degrees of Sagittarius. Perhaps it is even more than that.
Some interesting observations have come to light about the late degrees of Sagittarius. Horary astrologer William Lilly is the source of our observations on the Void-of-Course Moon. He observed that the Moon is not really Void-of-Course in late Sagittarius. Prior to the discovery of the Galactic Center, no astrologer would have known why.
A good measurement of the GC is 26sa10 (26 degrees, 10 minutes of Sagittarius) in 1950. According to standard rates of precession, that would have been 25sa28 in 1900, and will be 26sa52 in the year 2000.
Facts about the Milky Way Galaxy:
* Age: 13-15 Billion years
* Number of Stars: 100 billion * Diameter: 100,000 light years * Diameter of the central bulge: 25,000 light years * Distance of our sun from the GC: 27,000 light years * Orbital velocity of our Sun around the GC: 135 miles per second * Time for the Sun to orbit around the GC: 250 million years The GC is so active that astrologers could think of it in planetary terms, since that is what astrologers seem most comfortable with. I look at the GC by house position in every chart, and the Sagittarian theme works well. Solar arcs and transits to this spot in every chart bring up travel, educational, spiritual and philosophical themes in client discussions. One of the most devastating times for a client has been Solar Arc Pluto square the natal GC. A profound crises of faith and belief occurs almost every time. Another very curious impact of personal planets in aspect to the GC is the "other worldly" psychological impact these aspects seem to create. Some clients with aspects to the GC speak of not feeling 100 percent human, or not feeling they have had human ancestory. Their inner dynamic is centered around feeling as if they have come to this planet from some other place. They describe thinking like a galactic ambassador, and feeling as if they are here representing energies, knowledge and civilizations that are extraterrestrial in origin. One client with 26 degrees Sag rising, related nightly dreams in many different alien bodies.
As a career counselor, I am always looking for the most energized planets in a chart. Planets in aspect to the Galactic Center are certainly energized, and can be among the strongest planets in the chart. A search of the Galactic Center is built into my Career Report.
To illustrate planetary aspects with the GC, here are a few example charts, drawn from my files:
* Alfred Adler, psychologist and psychiatrist, who in his analysis of individual development, stressed the sense of inferiority rather than sexual drives, as the motivating force in human life. He named this psychological feeling an "inferiority complex". His Saturn (the planet of inferiority) is 25 Sagittarius, while his Mars is 25 Aquarius.
* Napoleon Bonaparte (Emperor of France, born Aug 15th, 1769) with his helio Mars at 23 Virgo, and Sun at 22 Leo. The GC in the late 1700's was 23 Sagittarius. * President George Bush, with conservative Saturn at 25 Libra, Node at 26 Leo, and his Mars at 25 Aquarius. * Prince Charles of England with his 29 Sagittarius Jupiter (the royal aristocratic planet) conjunct the GC. Mars is at 20 Sagittarius. * President Bill Clinton, with his Sun at 26 Leo, Jupiter at 23 Libra and Athena (the lawyer, social policy expert) at 27 Sagittarius. * Hillary Clinton with innovative, break-the-mold Uranus at 25 Gemini, Moon at 29 Pisces, and Juno (wife of) at 29 Sagittarius. * Princess Diana with Moon at 25 Aquarius, Athena at 25 Pisces, Juno at 26 Pisces, Uranus at 23 Leo and the mean Node at 28 Leo. * Bob Dylan with Mercury (great lyrics) at 27 Gemini, and Neptune at 24 Virgo. * Queen Elizabeth II of England with her Jupiter at 22 Aquarius, Uranus at 27 Pisces, and Neptune at 22 Leo. As these few examples illustrate, the psychology, personality and sometimes the career choice of an individual, can be indicated by planets in aspect to the Galactic Center. In late December of 1995 Jupiter conjuncted the Galactic Center once again. Perhaps with this new cycle, it is time for most astrologers to begin adding the Galactic Center to their clients' charts. Collectively we can then all expand our horizons beyond the solar system, and begin to study the Sun of our Sun.
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Lana29865 Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Mar 2007
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posted July 24, 2008 12:30 AM
My Vertex is 29 deg Sagittarius (opposing Jupiter at 27 deg Gemini).Thank you for bringing up Galactic Center, I never heard of it before. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 24, 2008 12:41 AM
Well this is really interesting for me because someone else has raised this and asked me personally about how it affects me because my unaspected venus sits in it (it is at 26 deg Sag). I really have no idea how it affects me because quite frankly I don't know where my venus is or what it is doing because it is unaspected!!IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 2528 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted July 24, 2008 04:00 AM
Thanks for the info Geocosmic! Hmm... I'm not sure if I feel like I come from an alien race or anything (I definitely feel like an elf - but that's technically not an alien)... but yes I do feel *different* in a way. Like I don't think that anyone could really understand me or something. I also feel like I am here to help people, even if it's just the people close to me... I'm kind of like an elf and a special helper and a human being with lessons to learn, all in one. That and I think my Leo MC gives me an "I'm here to do something special!" grandeur delusion.  IP: Logged |
venusdeindia Knowflake Posts: 1630 From: mumbai,india Registered: Nov 2006
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posted July 24, 2008 06:56 AM
i and IQ discussed a lot on the GC.. esp becoz all the 4 galactic points figure strongly in my chart... here quote: more on G.C. ASTROLOGY http://www.cainer.com/ericfrancis/dec9.html http://www.philipsedgwick.com/ http://members.aol.com/Synchrofil/astsampl.html here's an extract from the lats oneAncient History and Your Chart The present position of these three significant points release points for cosmic energy in the universe is: The Galactic Center -- 26.01 degrees Saggitarius Supergalactic Center -- 1.65 degrees Libra The Midpoint -- 17.58 degrees Scorpio Planets in your chart that form aspects with these centers, represent your relationship to the energies which emanate from them, and particularly relate to the onset and return points of their cycles at 0 degrees Capricorn and Cancer. Thus the events on the historical chart that relate to these positions may have special significance if you have aspects to them. For example, if you had a Mars, Saturn T-square formed with the present position of the Galactic Center, that might signify that you may suffered a violent death or mishap during the 1st fall of Lemuria or the final fall of Atlantis. Neptune trine to the Midpoint might mean that you developed great spiritual sensitivity, and paranormal ability (or musical talent) in the Shamballa, Gobi Desert mystery school of Sanat Kumara or with Jesus during the Golden Age of Atlantis. Historical Chart Galactic Center 0 d Cap 2,279 AD Near beginning of Aquarian Age 0 d Can 10,657 BC Final Fall of Atlantis (beginning of the Age of Leo) 0 d Cap 23,593 BC Final rise of Atlantis 0 d Can 36,529 BC Jesus first appears on earth 0 d Cap 49,465 BC The first fall of Lemuria Supergalactic Center 0 d Cap 8,341 AD A new cosmic age 0 d Can 4,595 BC A Chinese Golden Age (Yellow Emperor) 0 d Cap 17,531 BC 0 d Can 30,467 BC The Great Flood, Final Fall of Mu. Maitreya's Mystery School. 0 d Cap 43,403 BC 0 d Can 56,339 BC An early Golden Age on Mu?
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Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 387 From: somewhere far, far away Registered: Nov 2004
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posted July 24, 2008 11:22 AM
Venus, if you have the time and inclination, can you possibly help me try to interpret the following as to how this all relates to past lives and present life and the GC? I have a Grand Trine of Valentine at 0 degrees Capricorn (sabian symbol: AN INDIAN CHIEF CLAIMS POWER FROM THE ASSEMBLED TRIBE) in the 11th House, a conjunction of Atlantis, Merlin and Juno/Valentine midpoint at 0 degrees Virgo in the 7th House (sabian symbol: IN A PORTRAIT THE BEST OF A MAN'S FEATURES AND TRAITS ARE IDEALIZED.), and a conjunction of Juno and Sun/ASC midpoint at 0 degrees Taurus in the 3rd House (sabian symbol: A CLEAR MOUNTAIN STREAM). I have a T-square of the Atlantis, Merlin, and Juno/Valentine conjunction at 0 degrees Virgo opposite my Pholus and Valentine/Juno midpoint conjunction at 0 degrees Pisces in the 1st House (sabian symbol: A CROWDED PUBLIC MARKET PLACE) triggered by the square of my Draconic Parvati and Draconic Devine conjunction at 0 degrees Gemini in the 3rd House (sabian symbol: A GLASS-BOTTOMED BOAT REVEALS UNDER-SEA WONDERS). I also have a second T-square involving my Sun/DSC (near and far) midpoints at 0 degrees Leo/Aquarius triggered by my 0 degree Taurus Juno and Sun/ASC midpoint (for the Sun/ASC midpoint it just computed as 0'24 Taurus - there was no 0'24 Scorpio far midpoint mentioned). Critical 0 degree Cardinal Points in my chart, creating a Grand Cross: 0 Libra - a conjunction of Moon/Jupiter midpoint in the 8th House with my Draconic Moon in the 7th House and my Solstice Cupido (0 Libra sabian symbol: A BUTTERFLY PRESERVED AND MADE PERFECT WITH A DART THROUGH IT) opposite 0 Aries Moon/Jupiter midpoint in the 2nd House (0 Aries sabian symbol: A WOMAN HAS RISEN OUT OF THE OCEAN, A SEAL IS EMBRACING HER). The 0 degree Aries/Libra opposition squares a 0 degree Cancer/Capricorn opposition: 0 degrees Cancer Draconic Child (0 Cancer sabian symbol: ON A SHIP THE SAILORS LOWER AN OLD FLAG AND RAISE A NEW ONE) opposite the 0 degrees Capricorn conjunction of Valentine and Merlin in the 11th House (0 Capricorn sabian symbol: AN INDIAN CHIEF CLAIMS POWER FROM THE ASSEMBLED TRIBE). Can you make any sense of all that?? It's a lot to take in so I'm hoping an objective and clear headed perspective might have a better sense than I do of how that all might work together. Next: Galactic Center: In the 26th degree of Sagittarius is my Part of Fortune at 26'33 in the 11th House (sabian symbol: THE SCULPTOR'S VISION IS TAKING FORM). Supergalactic Center: At the 1 degree point in Libra I have: 1'29 Draconic Musa in the 7th House, 1'22 Nemesis in the 8th House, and 1'18 TransNeptunian Apollon in the 8th House (sabian symbol for all 3: THE LIGHT OF THE SIXTH RACE TRANSMUTED TO THE SEVENTH). The Midpoint: I have nothing at the 17th degree of Scorpio but if you take into account aspects formed from the 16th and 18th degrees I do have my 18'25 Taurus Draconic Chaos in the 2nd House (sabian symbol: A NEW CONTINENT RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN) opposing it. The 18 degree Taurus Draconic Chaos forms a T-square with my 17'53 Leo Draconic Guinevere in the 6th House (sabian symbol: A CHEMIST CONDUCTS AN EXPERIMENT FOR HIS STUDENTS) conjunct 16'44 Leo Draconic Camelot in the 6th House (sabian symbol: VOLUNTEER CHURCH CHOIR MAKES SOCIAL EVENT OF REHEARSAL) and 18'11 Leo Draconic Wisdom in the 6th House (sabian symbol: A HOUSEBOAT PARTY) opposite my 16'40 Aquarius Draconic Klotho (Klotho represents: Insuring that your true destiny is fulfilled. Weaving together all the elements that make up the higher fabric of your life) in the 12th House (sabian symbol: A WATCHDOG STANDING GUARD, PROTECTING HIS MASTER AND HIS POSSESSIONS). Any ideas on how to interpret all of this? Like I said, there's a lot of information I presented here (I included House positions and sabian symbols because I find them to be very revealing and helpful in deciphering what it all means) so I completely understand if it's too overwhelming to try to tackle. I can see the pieces of the puzzle but I'm having a hard time putting it all together to form a comprehensive picture. IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 351 From: not home Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 24, 2008 11:37 AM
this is very informative for me, since my Sun is in exact conjunction with the galactic center, and i had no clue what that could have meant! cool!IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 351 From: not home Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 24, 2008 11:51 AM
hey 23! i think it was me who asked about your venus!!  IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 351 From: not home Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 24, 2008 12:20 PM
this is quite crazy, i had NEVER told this to anyone in my entire life, but i DID grow up with this "out-worldly" feeling...no i never thought i was an alien, but i always felt that i am only in this plane temporarily, as someone who is a little different, like i'm not supposed to belong here. it wasn't like i was obsessed of this idea, it was just at the very back of my head and i never thought about it much. i wasn't suffering from the "belongingness issue", it was not like that. i just tucked it away in the back because i thought it could have been mistaken that i considered myself "above" the others. it wasn't like that, it was like this feeling, too vague to put in words but very clear as an idea, that i am something else, not special or not exclusive... too lazy to check all the other aspects for now, but my jupiter and mercury (my rulers of AC DC)squares supergalactic center thingie, i'd never heard of that one before. 23, i remember we were talking about this when i asked you about the fixed stars. i have a few crazy conjunctions with the major fixed stars and discovered this galactic center conjunction while i was looking them up, and was like, what's this!? then you were just as confused about your venus on the GC... wait, that makes it, so my Sun conjunct the GC my Jupiter (AC ruler) square the super GC my Mercury (DC ruler) square the super GC my AC conjunct Antares (western royal stars) my DC conjunct Aldebaran (eastern royal stars) my Saturn conjunct Regulus (northern of 4 royal stars) my Saturn semi-sextile super GC sorry to be side tracked with the fixed stars, but just got my memory dug up by it. the aspects above look a bit overwhelming to me... IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune Knowflake Posts: 419 From: Registered: Dec 2007
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posted July 24, 2008 12:24 PM
The Discovery Channel has a good amount of programs about astrology. They're very interesting.I know nothing about the GC and I have no points there...  IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 2528 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted July 24, 2008 03:38 PM
Hey lechien, isn't it a weird feeling? I've also had the feeling at other times that I'm not in the right time period or something, like I should be in some future society where everyone is nicer to each other. Like the answer to the world's problems could be so simple but so many people from this time don't understand it. The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson song "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" always struck a chord with me. That's not to say I believe I'm from some future time or anything... just a feeling I've had that I don't "fit", BUT YET it's not an issue of feeling completely dislocated or anything that strong. It is very hard to put into words.IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 24, 2008 07:39 PM
lechien - yes it was you  And yes I'm still confused as I really don't know how the unaspected quality of my venus plays with it being on GC, I suppose it must make it even stronger then. Still, its nothing compared to your problems my dear! IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 351 From: not home Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 25, 2008 09:25 AM
GeminiLover, yea, it's really strange but i felt like my eyes got opened when i read this thread! i felt that way since i was in kindergarten all the way along, when i didn't even have the concept of places other than where i was (before that i don't remember i was too young).23, i just decided to think that it must mean something good! it has to be, yesss. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 501 From: ca, usa Registered: Jan 2008
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posted July 25, 2008 12:49 PM
thank you all for your very interesting inputs...now i need to ask WHAT IS SUPERGALACTIC CENTRE? I never heard of that one before?keith richards, who appears to be able to weather challenges that would kill most people several times over(talk about ENERGY!), has his sun on GC(exact) and jupiter trine it - also saturn opp; my ex-husband has jupiter there and my daughter, neptune. as i mentioned my music muse asteroid sits there and i have been playing music since i was 3, involved with musicians and the business one way or other most of my life. it also semisextiles my jupiter and sextiles my moon, and widely trines my sun/pluto! it also widely opposes my ruling planet, uranus, which has manifested in a lot of challenges to my sense of self and purpose... again thanks for the info and links... IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 994 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted July 25, 2008 01:46 PM
My favorite person born on December 18th, which is pretty much the day when the Sun lines up at 23 - 27 degrees Sagittarius, is:Steven Spielberg.  How's that for "Other worldly"! IP: Logged |
Plutonian Persona Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Jun 2008
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posted July 25, 2008 11:04 PM
My soul degree is 27 degrees Sagittarius...hmmm. Maybe that's why I'm just a little bit different???Nah, that's Uranus in the 1st! :-) IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri Moderator Posts: 2913 From: Never Never Land Registered: Oct 2006
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posted July 26, 2008 12:59 AM
My Uranus is 25 degrees Sagittarius...maaanIP: Logged |
venusdeindia Knowflake Posts: 1630 From: mumbai,india Registered: Nov 2006
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posted July 26, 2008 05:48 AM
Tigerlily... well inclination yes but time ?  lol just kidding. i havent honestly given the GC any thought since IQ discussed it in my thread.a lot of stuff out there like what iposted is tooooo Estoris.. even for me. BUT what are ur personal experiences.? in my case.. i have both sun and kaali bang on 0 cancer...neptune conj Spirit on the GC valentine opposed the super GC at 18 taurus...i havent given the midpoints nay thought but i have worked on past lives so i will try to see any pattern and post it pronto  IP: Logged | |