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Scorpionic Web
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posted August 29, 2008 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
23-

Yeah, I seldom get angry (in response to your post about Simon *Leo Asc, Venusian Moon*). When I do get angry I almost never show it because I consider it to be undignified (Leo Asc? Cap Mars?). I try to internalize things and eventually accept them.

I've had girlfriends get upset with me because I don't react much during arguments and then they think I don't care. I thought it was strange when one girlfriend (a Sag) actually complained because I never yelled at her when she would yell at me. She would throw objects and call me "cold" with all of her Sagittarian fire.

It's just always made more sense to me to remain calm when trying to settle a conflict.

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Lara
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posted August 29, 2008 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry 23 you lost me!
What is a Taurus dwad? Is it in one of the decantes please? X

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posted August 29, 2008 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara - 3 decanates make up a sign, 4 dwads make up a decanate. 12 dwads make up a sign such that a dwad is 2.5 deg in length. Go the front page for the aries dwad. The first dwad for a sign is always the native sign and then it follows in chronological order. So the first 2.5 deg of aries is aries, the next 2.5 deg is taurus and so forth. Look at the last survey I did and look at each dwad. Specifally look at the eyes of each person, lips and face shape. I can really see how each dwad affects the look of each group of people in the dwads. I showed to Mr 23 who is a cynic and astro-skeptic and he was very impressed, he could see the differences too!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decan

I'd like you to tell me if you see a trend!

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Lara
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posted August 29, 2008 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow!!!!

Now I totally see what you are saying 23.
My goodness... I am def between 2.5 - 5 degrees of Aries rising

THANK YOU X

What you have done here is just amazing!!!!

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posted August 29, 2008 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara - I'm going to do some more investigations on dwads an d see if I can beef up each group. I also went and looked at the 1st house planet people and still saw more or less dwads affecting the lips, head shape and eyes.

I put JT in the Gem dwad for now. I suspected he was an aries decanate given his head shape (square, compare his to Angie Dickinson). Here's his chart if it was set at Gem dwad (6 deg Aries ASC). It finally makes perfect sense. Merc in Cancer/5th- emotional thinking in entertainment/romance (5th house areas). Jupiter on the MC - incredible luck with career, uranus/pluto in 6th - erratic/eccentric workplace environment plus sexual environment. It finally makes sense. Moon (tau) and Mars (aries) in 1st - moon is artistic talent, mars is the intuitive drive that is capable of conquest (in aries). Sun/venus conj IC, very loving and warm to those he is very close to, true personality shown to a few and very different to public personality. Plus his 8th house cusp runs right through my NN/Vx. Explains everything.

I'm very happy with this chart. His daughter has a 10 deg aries sun and it is conj with asc etc.

JT's appearance dwad analysis

* ASC 6-36 Aries (aries appearance - direct look in eye) - Gemini dwad (airy espression, pert lips)

Mercury, ruler of ASC dwad:
*Mercury in 23-34 Cancer (small eyes, pale skin, dark hair) - Aries dwad (aries appearance - direct look in eye)

Mars in 1st house:
*Mars 29-44 Aries (aries appearance - direct look in eye) - Pisces dwad (facial expressiveness)

Ruler of mars' pisces dwad
*Neptune in 6-34 Sco (sheen in the eye, maybe penetrative look) - Capricorn dwad (chiselled features)

Moon in 1st house:
* Moon 13-13 Tau (sensual) - libra (beauty, symmetry)

Ruler of Moon:
* Venus in 27-57 Gemini (airy epression) - Cancer dwad (small eyes, pale skin, dark hair)


As for your own, check some life events against it in transit. Get back to me as to what you find, tell me if it fits or not.

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posted August 30, 2008 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Additions to Dwad Study

5º-7½º.....|.Aries-Aries-Gemini
[img]http://www.dewielersite.net/db2/wielersite/beeldbank/thumbs/WAMBST Georges .jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.dewielersite.net/db2/wielersite/afbcoureurs/george wambst2.jpg[/img]
Georges WAMBST born 21/07/1902 sign Cancer 28°09 and Ascendant Aries 6°19 - mars in Cancer http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/44RZZRB9w3cQ.htm


Yves COCHET born 15/02/1946 sign Aquarius 26°04 and Ascendant Aries 6°28 - mars in cancer http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/zC5aVpg5M3ra.htm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stowegarth/2362163216/
Eddie KIDD born 22/06/1959 sign Gemini 29°51 and Ascendant Aries 7°14 - mars in leo http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/U6wFTyRd3Ra7.htm


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posted August 30, 2008 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yo-Yo MA born 07/10/1955 sign Libra 13°39 and Ascendant Aries 6°15 - mars in virgo http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/3L85NckQ58C4.htm


Louise BOGAN born 11/08/1897 sign Leo 19°34 and Ascendant Aries 5°50 - mars in virgo http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/QfXmV8xsp4e5.htm


Susan SAINT JAMES born 14/08/1946 sign Leo 21°45 and Ascendant Aries 6°56 - mars in libra http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/Jd65k58FTU54.htm

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posted August 30, 2008 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


LEOPOLD III born 03/11/1901 sign Scorpio 10°30 and Ascendant Aries 6°27 http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/96h2Z5P73Krx.htm

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posted August 30, 2008 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2½º-5º.....|.Aries-Aries-Taurus
(Carlo is far left)
Carlo BENETTON born 26/12/1943 sign Capricorn 3°48 and Ascendant Aries 2°36 - mars in gemini http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/4f7a7B338AQb.htm


Alfred DELP born 15/09/1907 sign Virgo 21°44 and Ascendant Aries 4°30 - Mars in capricorn http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/PTxGDpU55k6b.htm

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posted August 30, 2008 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
27½º-30º.....|.Aries-Aries-Pisces


René MARGOTTON born 18/11/1915 sign Scorpio 25°12 and Ascendant Aries 29°47 - mars in leo http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/bE6vSjxF5TJj.htm


Tiberio MITRI born 12/07/1926 sign Cancer 19°48 and Ascendant Aries - mars in pisces (12th)
ttp://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/3zRk7Z9VHfVH.htm

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posted August 30, 2008 04:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Another Aries ASC,e ven though I don`t know which degree (He mentioned in an interview that his ASC was in Aries)


- He has Sun on 00° Capricorn, Moon on 28° Aries and Mars on 09° Libra (seems like a very cardinal guy. )

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koiflower
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posted September 02, 2008 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Okay, I've just dwaded myself.

Asc Aries/Decanate Leo/Dwad Leo

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posted September 02, 2008 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool koi, do you think you look like them in any way?

DD - I think it's obvious your guy is a pisces dwad. He look exactly like the other two just above him!

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posted September 02, 2008 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
15º-17½º.|.Aries-Leo-Libra


Arielle GUTTMAN born 06/07/1949 sign Cancer 13°49 and Ascendant Aries 15°11 ... mars in gemini (18"24 deg) http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/MA3xk46YacUY.htm



Xavier DARCOS born 14/07/1947 sign Cancer 21°38 and Ascendant Aries 15°32 ...mars in gemini (17°37') http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/8wL2yS3Ga3jb.htms

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Michele LEE born 24/06/1942 sign Cancer 2°12 and Ascendant Aries 15°07 - mars in leo http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/5c7Ng462hAPc.htm



Armand TROUSSEAU born 14/10/1801 sign Libra 20°52 and Ascendant Aries 15°42 ...mars in libra http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/2JstgF6t43Fx.htm

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Belinda GIBLIN born 02/03/1950 sign Pisces 10°47 and Ascendant Aries 15°09 ...mars in libra http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/7897D6njNbGa.htm

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posted September 05, 2008 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm not sure if I look like anyone, but I did notice that Leo dwads have quite significant dimples when they smile....

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posted September 05, 2008 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Koi - have you noticed this in real life or in the photos of people I have put up? Isn't dimples a venus thing?

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posted September 06, 2008 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My son.

Picses sun
Aries rising
Mars in Scorpio

3 years old


9 years old

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posted September 06, 2008 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You have a cute son MoonWitch!!

23 - I noticed this on the pics you posted. But you're right, dimples are a venus thing usually. Hmmm, maybe it's that sleek cat thing happening when Leo dwads smile....

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Moonwitch - what a cutie! And what an Aries rising he is, you can see it already.

Koi - thats interesting, I didn't see dimples. The leo dwads I thought have curled and fixed lips and roundish head and of course look a bit leo-like. All the fixed dwads have fixed/determined lips if you look.

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posted September 06, 2008 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does Mars Make a Difference?

Look at all the Libra dwads. All the libras tend to have somewhat cupid bow lips and fuller rounder faces than the average Aries rising. Look closely now at the shape. The gemini mars libra dwads have a more oblong face shape, higher eyebrows; libra mars people have a rounder head, are slightly paler and bigger rounded eyes. Michelle Lee has a more cattish, prouder appearance. Kamel Ouali has more of a facial expression akin to some of the pisces dwads and has a high forehead maybe akin to mutables.

Now look to the pisces dwad peoples. Mitri who is pisces mars as well, has a purer pisces expression. Malraux could even pass as something Sag; Vera Fisher has a rounded head and lighter colour (compare to the mars libra people above). Margotton has more of leo hairstyle (mars in leo, like Michelle Lee).

It seems to me that the ascendant gives the basic appearance. The basic appearance is modulated by the decanate that slightly alters the face shape (aries - squarish, leo - round, sagittarius - oblong). The facial features themselves are determined by the dwads. Facial expression and features are then modified by the dwads and mars sign. Mars sign can also affect the shape of the head and colouring further. Planets in the first again reflect on the look in the eye and facial shape.

So yes, mars makes a difference to a person's appearance!

The test is now to see what aspects on the asc and chart ruler do to a person's appearance.

So far, my theory for appearance so far is:

* Rising sign, its decanate, its dwad
* Ruler of rising sign, its decanate and its dwad
* The depositor of the dwad of the ruling planet, and then looking to see its sign, decanate and dwad
* All planets in the first house, their sign, decanate, their dwad
* The despositors of these planets, their sign, decanate and their dwad
* planets in exaltation or domicile in the 1st may have a greater impact on appearance.

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Lara
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posted September 06, 2008 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow

so interesting.. if you want me to post a couple of pics for you to use me as a guinea pig i'm happy to

(seeing as you know my birth time)!

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Lara
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posted September 06, 2008 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
23,

Here's a friend of mine who l think is 2nd decante Aries rising.

What do you think?


with 2nd decante Aries AC his sun/venus are conjunct AC which would give the 'pretty' good looks, no?

Mars in 1st, Taurus
sun/venus in 1st, Aries
moon in 1st, Taurus
neptune and saturn on DC/7th H
I won't leave this image up for too long as don't have his permission !!

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posted September 06, 2008 07:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How funny to see Belinda Giblin aka Alison Carr on this site! lol. Okay, carry on.

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