posted September 24, 2008 02:34 PM         

Where ever did you come up with that nonsense? Your statements make me doubt further the educational process in US universities. It would seem the ignorance is all yours.

There is one way and only one way to change provisions of the US Constitution and that is by the amendment process; a lengthy and difficult process. Acts of Congress cannot do so. Executive Orders cannot do so and decrees by federal courts cannot do so.

Hahahaha, the rage is all on the far left radical fringe. Haven't you noticed? I have nothing to be enraged about.

posted September 24, 2008 02:35 PM         

During your stay you might struggle to bite back a personal insult or two, I quite understand how tough it can be, you are not alone. If you could try and resist, that would be appreciated.

posted September 24, 2008 02:53 PM         

Well, well, well Jessa1985. Thank you for proving that leftists of every strip forever and always attempt to shut people up when they can't win an argument any other way. Lacking any ideas, being intellectually vacant, leftists are forever on the losing side in any substantive argument. BTW, you're not going to win it that way either. It's been tried before and got fried.

Now Jessa1985, or whomever we would really know you as here if you were using your usual screen name.....O'Bomber has nothing to do with any religious leanings of Barack Hussein Obama. I chose that name for him when he made public statements he would attack/bomb Pakistan, our ally in the war on terror and terrorists...and talk to our shrieking.."Death to America" brain dead moron enemies in Iran.

Sarah Palin is going to be a great President of the United States and the first woman to hold that office. That's going to happen in 2012 or 2016, after she's served as Vice President of the United States. As it is, right now, Sarah Palin is more qualified to be President than either O'Bomber or O'Biden; neither of whom have so much as 1 second of executive experience to bring to the job of President.

Stuff Saturday Night Live where the sun don't shine.

posted September 24, 2008 03:02 PM         

Jwhop, the notion that I would be as you describe is as illogical as most of your arguments.

I have always been willing to put my morals up against your morals, and will always be willing to do so. While I think you're a fairly decent human being, I don't think you threaten my moral standing.

posted September 24, 2008 03:22 PM         

"indict
One entry found.
Entry Word:
indict
Function:
verb

Text: to make a claim of wrongdoing against<the grand jury could indict the mayor for fraud and embezzlement>— see accuse"

legally and according to merriam-webster, an indictment is a CHARGE calling for investigation. sarah palin HAS BEEN INDICTED and she and her hubby are doing their best to OBSTRUCT the INVESTIGATION. apparently he does not want to have to answer to his own actions in this case.

so even if they are innocent in the case as presented, they ARE guilty of obstruction of justice and i hope they are INDICTED for that too!!

posted September 24, 2008 03:29 PM         

Why would you want another bush in the white house? Why would you want a dumb broad in the white house? I think your a racist.
Why, Why , Why?

posted September 24, 2008 04:23 PM         

In a legal sense, an accusation is in NO WAY an indictment.

Indictment
Law A written statement charging a party with the commission of a crime or other offense, drawn up by a prosecuting attorney and found and presented by a grand jury.
American Heritage Dictionary

a formal document written for a prosecuting attorney charging a person with some offense
WordNet

A formal accusation of a crime, presented to the accused party after the charges have been considered by a grand jury
American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition

a formal written statement framed by a prosecuting authority and found by a grand jury that charges a person or persons with an offense
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law

posted September 24, 2008 04:30 PM         

I choose my enemies carefully acoustic and after due consideration of facts.

posted September 24, 2008 04:43 PM         

I don't give a flying flip what you think, about me, about O'Bomber, about Sarah Palin or about anything else. You entered this discussion in a manner which tells me you don't think at all but rather react emotionally and without rational thought.

posted September 24, 2008 05:33 PM         

Dear Jessa, let me be perfectly honest and straightforward with you.

I don't give a flying flip what you think, about me, about O'Bomber, about Sarah Palin or about anything else. You entered this discussion in a manner which tells me you don't think at all but rather react emotionally and without rational thought.

Further, calling Governor Sarah Palin a "dumb broad" puts you in the same phew..notice, I said phew and not pew...as the rest of the Kool-Aid drinking O'Bomber whiners, howlers, screechers and shriekers.

Happy to clear that up for you.

posted September 24, 2008 05:43 PM         

it seems your knowledge of biology is a little limited too:

"In this day and age, it's an act of supreme stupidity for a woman to become pregnant with an unwanted child...and I do mean "supreme stupidity". There are more effective birth control methods available than at any time in history."

TODAY AS ALWAYS THE ONLY CERTAIN METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL IS....ABSTINENCE! not only is this not possible in cases involving force, but there are plenty of cases where people using birth control are let down by same.

my cousin has 12 children. despite her solid catholicism, she attempted to prevent pregnancies 6-12. because she has an atypical menstrual cycle and BIRTH CONTROL CARRIES NO GUARANTEES she failed in those attempts. because her husband could manage it, she was able to raise them and well!

i also fell to imperfect birth control. nursing a 9 month old, healing from a cesarean delivery and using a diaphragm (no periods in sight mind you!) i became deathly ill with pneumonia while on vacation. the doctors tested me for an answer to why i was so sick. i endured xrays, blood tests, spinal taps, and i don't remember what else. when i had my follow-up exam with my own (female) doctor she realized i was pregnant! having been in hospital for a week with a fever of around 105, on a heavy antibiotic drip and suffering from pneumonia and dehydration, i was informed that there was not much chance that this child would be healthy. i had a young one already, a husband in the throes of a new business(very busy) and my health was not 100% even then. i aborted that fetus without a backward look.

i was about 3 months gone. my doctor SUGGESTED this abortion. i had to deliver this child by induced labour. it was not a fun experience. i believe the thing was already dead. i KNOW it looked more like a frog than a person(even a 3month fetal person). i have never regretted this nor felt like a murderer. you will never convince me that the fetus i aborted would have had a productive or even healthy life.

sarah palin is perfectly entitled to raise her down syndrome baby. more power to her. perhaps it will teach her a thing or two about compassion and unconditional love. these children are considered a gift by those privileged to have them - and the wherewithal to provide for them. she will be around 80 when this child is 35 - an advanced age for DS adults. presuming it is a high-functioning individual, it will still need help. many parents will never have the kind of resources ms palin has. their DS children may not be so lucky...

i repeat there is NO WAY GOVERNMENT should be able to decide who has babies and who doesn't. if they can tell you to HAVE them, they can tell you NOT to have them...

posted September 24, 2008 05:54 PM         

All I will say is from the basic skim I have done, this thread kind of annoys me and I wonder what it is even doing on this forum, given that there is no astrological content. I certainly have a point of view on some candidates in the election but I don't wish to make them public, so don't ask. However, I will say that I do agree with Lara, insomuch as saying the whole world has a vested interested in the American elections, given that America is and so wants to place itself as a superpower.

posted September 24, 2008 07:26 PM         

It's mildly amusing you might think so Jessa but alas, posting bullshiit only wins you the bullshiit award.

Since you're here perhaps we can get some use out of you.

Tell me Jessa; if you looked at charts for 2 candidates for the same office and one had both Mars and Pluto kicking around in their 10th House of Career and the other..call him candidate 2...had no activity in their 10th House....would you advise candidate 2 to begin writing his concession speech?

BTW, that's spelled "trailer" not "trailor". You should have remembered that from the time Kommander Korruption was running around calling Paula Jones "trailer trash".

posted September 24, 2008 07:46 PM         

But, "indicted" does indicate there was already an investigation of a charge/allegation by police authorities or other's empowered to do so and the evidence they gathered was presented to a Grand Jury by a prosecutor and the Grand Jury weighed the evidence and returned a "true bill of indictment". Then, comes the trial and a verdict of "guilty" or "not guilty".

There are more forms of birth control available than at any time in history and most of them are quite effective in preventing pregnancy.

I'm sorry for your trouble but to suggest Sarah Palin lacks compassion or unconditional love and will need to learn those lessons is beyond the pale. There's nothing in Palin's past or present to suggest she needs to learn about either compassion or unconditional love.

There is however a hell of a lot of evidence that O'Bomber supporters need to learn some lessons in what is acceptable campaign behavior because from what they've said about and done to Sarah Palin and her family so far, it's clear there's a lot of clueless morons running around in the O'Bomber camp.

posted September 25, 2008 02:41 AM         

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This is a point that I think is hard to disagree with ~ outside of personal anecdotes, statistical evidence backs this up. Look at a country like Italy, traditionally strongly Catholic, it has one of the lowest birth rates in Europe, well under fertility rate of 2 children per women, I don't even think it breaks into 1.5. That had to happen for a reason.

Sterilisation is a highly effective form of contraceptive, yes it is drastic and not everyone's choice. But plenty of men seem to think it is the option for them, at least here in the U.K where it is very popular. Although I was being silly above, I do think more choice of male contraception would be a good thing. What they've got now is condoms or the snip. The second isn't for everyone and neither is the first. Men would take more responsibility for contraception if they had more options.

The comment has been made a couple of times that government has no business telling people how many children they should have ~ I can see the human rights perspective but the practicalities are that people need feeding, clothing, housing and they need to be supported with infrastructure. Living on a densely poplated island makes it harder for me to ignore the political issue of overpopulation than it would if I lived in Greenland, for example. I don't know if in the future our government would have to step in and take draconian measures. If so, I doubt I would like it. But right now it doesn't look like it as our birthrate is so low.

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p.s

posted September 25, 2008 01:12 PM         

That's the main problem with our planet.

too many people think that their views are right and others' are wrong. Then they talk down to those people and treat them like crap. They force their ideological views down people's throats to the point of persecution. This is what creates bigotry and so-cailled superiority complex over others whether it's culture,race,gender,sexual orientation,country,political party,etc.

posted September 25, 2008 01:32 PM         

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Apparently these good news haven't reach Alaska yet

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