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alvarella777
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posted September 24, 2008 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi folks,

who have their Venus in Cancer - or have romantic experience with Venus-in-Cancer-people: Please help me and tell me: How does such a person want to be pursued, romantically? (Especially the guys...)

I am very unsure how much re-assurance these people need, in romance - and how much would be "too much too soon"...

I am a Cancer-Sun myself - but I've got a fiery Moon and an earthy Venus, and my chart is ruled by the Scorpio-(Pluto-)principle strongly ... so I am not very sure how the Cancer-formula works out in matters of love.

Guys (with Venus in Cancer): What "kind of woman" are you attracted to? Is it true that you go for the "motherly types", big boops, large hips and all? ;-)

I've got my Mars in Cancer myself - and I must say: It is NOT the "soft" and "caring" types of men I am drawn to - rather the very "manly", virile, "strong man" types with a slight "Macho"-allure - the classical heterosexual ideal ... ;-)

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posted September 24, 2008 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
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Guys (with Venus in Cancer): What "kind of woman" are you attracted to? Is it true that you go for the "motherly types", big boops, large hips and all? ;-)

Yeah, I love big boops.

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alvarella777
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posted September 24, 2008 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Damn! I've got quite small ones!!! "Boops", that is. (nicely shaped of course ;-)). My current crush has his Venus in Cancer ...

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writesomething
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posted September 24, 2008 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
thats what a wonderbra is for.

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alvarella777
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posted September 24, 2008 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
But a wonderba is pure fake!!!;-) I'd be SO embarrased to take it off when the going gets tough with a guy ... ;-) What if his face showed d.i.s.a.p.p.o.i.n.t.m.e.n.t. then??? My SCORPIO all over my chart just won't allow me to pretend this!

Apart from that, I've learned (through real life experience, haha), that there are "breast-lovers" and ... well ... "bum"-lovers amongst the guys. It's a matter of tatse. So - I never had the impression of "short coming" just because of small ... well ... breasts. (Apart from that: Small breasts age better than large ones - haha!)

SERIOUSLY: Apart from the body-shape-factors: HOW TO WIN YOUR HEART??? How to dazzle your mind and sweep you off your feet - Venus-in-Cancer-people?

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writesomething
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posted September 24, 2008 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
i was just kidding
they dont like skinny girls, thats for sure. they might date them and look past it, but when it comes down to it cancer influenced men yearn for a woman with a fuller figure. whats his mars? id look at that too...hopefully, youre domesticated? they like that...

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alvarella777
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posted September 24, 2008 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure what "domesticated" means ...;-) Guess I am rather the opposite, the roamin' type (geographically), and rather reknowned for that.

His Mars is in Libra ... and I just made not-so-nice experiences with Mars in Libra! (my ex had this...)

BUT: My name-asteroid is exactly conjunct his Eros!!! And my Sun and Mars both in Cancer, like his Venus. So - give me hope please!!!;-)

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posted September 25, 2008 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for augentier     Edit/Delete Message
EVERY man I've known with Venus in Cancer loves a girl with curves..ample booty and boobie

They also love to cook, and they love pastries and baked goods. So if you could bake him some cookies while wearing an apron and a push-up I think you've got him.

And trust me, by the time you've taken the bra off he isn't going to care how big they really are.

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Kick It
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posted September 25, 2008 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, some would be happy to get you in the bedroom

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EVERY man I've known loves a girl with curves..ample booty and boobie

Yeah, youre right.

A homely person, I didnt say cooking and cleaning, but it does help. Maybe someone who is into family or possibly is interested in family. Traditional person.

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Lucia23
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posted September 25, 2008 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a woman with Venus in Cancer...but I think men are probably very different.

I am attracted to a man who is a little bit hard to get, or at least very cool. My biggest turnoff is a man who is looking for Someone, Anyone to Date or Marry (I use caps because these are big, fixed categories for some guys.) That seems sooo desperate to me. I like men who organically explore many different kinds of friendships with many different kinds of people, and if a romantic connection or attraction blooms from there, they explore it. I like a man who's cool and self-sufficient enough to get to know people before he puts them into categories.

If I really feel an intense, natural attraction with someone, nothing else about him will deter me. But I've noticed that the guys I'll give a chance to when I'm not instantly attracted to them have the following qualities: very artistically creative and successful at it, tall and good-looking with beautiful hands, great sense of humor (and gets my sense of humor), adventurous, loves travel, open-minded, open-hearted, brilliant.

Then again, I've never been instantly attracted to, gotten involved with, or fallen in love with a man who doesn't have all of those qualities.

(Incidentally, I'm not attracted to Cancer men at all. My Moon and Venus are in my 7th house though, and my two longest relationships have been with Libras.)

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posted September 25, 2008 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutoprincess     Edit/Delete Message
So...no hope for the skinny ones ???
That was dissapointing ...
(just kidding ... hopefully there are other signs of the zodiacs around too)

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blue moon
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posted September 25, 2008 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Please, tell me there is more to this than big knockers. Or we might as well all give up and go home.

For Venus in Cancer my first thought is the crab in its shell, it wants to feel safe, protected, cared for, wouldn't a Venus in Cancer man want to feel nurtured, looked after?

Venus in Cancer ~ according to Lyn Birbeck's Relationship Astrology:

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the Sentimental Lover ~ the Insecure Lover

You are Attracted to:

Others who appreciate the importance of home and family life

Soulful others who possibly have some affliction for you to sympathize with.

Cuddly romance rather than thrusting passion - at least once you have exhausted this cultural myth


Not sure what he means by that last bit (yes he is a man)? Just not on this wavelength.

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Black_Lily
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posted September 25, 2008 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Black_Lily     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Avarella, if you got Mars in Cancer and he's got Venus in Cancer, you just won't be able to do anything wrong in your approach towards him.

I've got the same aspect with my crush, although I'm the Venus-Cancer and he's the Mars. I can't really describe how he does it, but everytime I'm with him, he makes me feel all lovey-dovey and I just want to hug/cuddle him and spread my legs for him . It's a nice feeling: a soft, emotional and physical attraction. Very emotionally deep and sexual indeed...

EDIT: I also believe (from past experiences) that it's the Venus person who's affected more with this aspect, so you're safe?

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posted September 25, 2008 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
well doesnt venus in a mans chart point towards the woman a man is attracted to? So wouldnt his venus in cancer already recognize s.th. (whatever it is) in your sun in cancer and your mars in cancer that he finds attractive quite naturally?

I have two friends with venus in cancer. One is a gemini sun, moon in aqua, the other a leo sun and moon. Who knows maybe venus in cancer men really have a preference for women with well rounded curse, but if they do, these two guys certainly didnt choose their wives according to this preference. Both their wives are definitely NOT Sophia Loren lookalikes. They are not thin like a stick either, but just average. What they also have in common is that they are quite plain. No make up no nothing and also their dress sense is very understated. Not 'chic' understatemnt, but just very very plain (that's just an observation and isnt supposed to be criticism. Maybe a venus in cancer just prefers a woman that doesnt try to be the center of attention, so maybe just the opposite of the glamour queen you'd expect from the taste of a venus in leo man.)

In terms of personality: The geminis wife I find extremely traditional, very much a housewive, keeping the 'nest' nice and tidy. The leo's wife doesnt really strike me as traditional. Dont know what sun sign she is, but something about her personality strikes me as capricornian.

By the way from the leo I always sensed some vibes which told me that he is attracted to me physically. I could be wrong of course, but just that you know - I am a capricorn sun, cancer ascendant and I'm DEFINITELY not a big busted Sophia Loren. Feminine yes, but not in a curvy way.

Hope that helps.
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posted September 25, 2008 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Black_Lily     Edit/Delete Message
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For Venus in Cancer my first thought is the crab in its shell, it wants to feel safe, protected, cared for, wouldn't a Venus in Cancer man want to feel nurtured, looked after?

Well, I'm a Venus in Cancer female and I sort of want that. It's a very good description. And a Mars in Cancer male is exactly the right person to do it.

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posted September 25, 2008 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
Black Lily

Our word for today is "legs".

Let's spread the word.

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alvarella777
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posted September 25, 2008 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Pfff, I really don't understand this guy at all - the one with Venus in Cancer. (He also has Taurus-Sun, Virgo-Moon, Libra-Mars, Eros in Aries).

You GUYS OUT THERE - please help me to get a clue!!!

To sketch the story again: We live quite far away from each other, several hundred miles, so we don't get the chance to meet so often. But: Whenever we meet he is obviously very charming, showering me with compliments, behaving like a shy shoolboy, talking about his own love life in very down-to-earth ways (he's a single-parent, raising his kid alone, got hurt by his former relationships several times and all.)

Last event we met (last weekend) his job-assistant (female) came up to me, she was a bit drunk, obviously, and alluded to me that he has developed a serious crush on me, that woman acted like some "matchmaker" ... haha. AND at the same night the guy (he's a musician) even dedicated a song to me! On stage! It was a love song he had written for me - he told the whole audience (but only about 10% of the people knew whom this song was about...)!!! SO: He clearly acts as "being infatuated" and very (!) after me, asks me thousands of questions, wants to know ALL about me - whenever we meet in person. AND I DO LIKE HIM TOO!!!

BUT BUT BUT: At the end of that night, when we finally managed to find a more quiet niche, where we could talk with each other, without all the people around ... after just 5 to 10 minutes "quiet talking" ...he suddenly said: "Sorry, I am tired, must leave now, byebye." Jumped off - and sort of ran away!!!

I was so buffled.. it seemed as if he fled the situation! My impression was ... he was really tired ... at the same time not very self-secure in this situation ... but neither was I feeling "secure" then - of course! He plainly let me sit there - all alone. Hm.

This thing is going on for almost 2 months now ... To and thro - he's SO charming and seems interested when we're together in the same room - but then: acts extremely aloof, all of a sudden - bordering to unpoliteness.

I wrote him a text-message via mobile phone, after he had left that night. He answered immediately, via text-message, and sort of excused himself.

Then I wrote him a nice, friendly, quite short e-mail on Monday, 3 days later - no word on that weird night, just a nice, careful, friendly, happy e-mail ... no answer!!! Another 3 days later, today/thursday, I sent another small, friendly (of course: shy!) e-mail ... again: HE DIDN'T EVEN SAY "hi", no answer!!!

Although I've seen him "online" today.

WHAT THE HECK?

Why is he so absolutely charming and focussed on me when we meet - then flees when things COULD get "more intimate" (I mean: verbally, emotionally "more intimate"..) - and then .. doesn't even reply to my friendly e-mails a few days after? Instead: IGNORES all my attempts to stay in touch with him?

I am confused ... and it starts getting annoying ... WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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posted September 25, 2008 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
He's a single dad, so maybe he had to rush back and check on his kids. You said he's been hurt badly, well, with that and a child to raise alone, it's reasonable he doesn't want to rush into things, no matter how much he likes you.

Give him a chance, I say. Try and see things from his point of view.

What would I do? Hmm, the wrong thing, probably. He would already be a lot more scared than he is now.

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posted September 25, 2008 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm, I have Venus in Cancer 29˚ in mutual reception with my Libra Moon at 14˚.

I can say for sure I like curvy women, not overweight curvy, more like Tracy Ellis Ross, Serena Williams, Janet Jackson, Alicia Keys curvy. Big boops are something I developed a likinf for in my late 20's. Prior to that I was a booty man.

As far as personality goes, I prefer a woman that loves to take care of the home and me. One that intuits my needs. If I have to constantly ask her to do nice things for me, that is a turn off. I don't want to have to ask for a massage after I come home from work, just give one to me. I know it may seem a bit unfair to some as most people are not telepathic but hey, that is how I like it.

I know I need a firm committment. I don't want to assume anything between us. If I want you to be my girl I am going to ask specifically that. If you want me to be your man, you need to ask just that, screw the subtle hints and whatnot, just say it.

We are also attracted to women that are NOT loud and obnoxious. We like women that are outgoing but not super duper extroverted. If you give off an air of "I-will-always-be-faithful" then you have won half the battle of attracting a Venus in Cancer dude.

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posted September 25, 2008 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
do you know his ascendant sign?

His behaviour is strange and reminds me of my (unhappy) experience with an aqua man with gemini and capricorn in his chart. He also acted very ambivalent. Seemingly interested on the one hand, but then obviously almost running from me (in person or avoiding email contact). So unfortunately I have no real answers to help you with your riddle because they obviously dont seem to have any astrological similarities in their charts. I think this kind of ambivalent behaviour can have dozens of reasons - he might have problems when it starts getting 'serious' or his 'interest' on stage and in front of othersmight just be an act and you one on one makes that apparent that the act has no real feelings as basis. Or maybe he is interest...a little bit, but isnt sure. Or maybe you havent been encouraging enough. Unfortunately I have no idea, i'd love to help you because I know from experience how utterly frustrating and hurtful this back and forth kind of behaviour can be.
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posted September 25, 2008 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
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If I want you to be my girl I am going to ask specifically that. If you want me to be your man, you need to ask just that, screw the subtle hints and whatnot, just say it.

So, GG, would this be your advice to Alvarella? Should she make a bold but not pushy move?

And, you're a dad, how would that change your perspective say imaginging you were the sought after Venus in Cancer dude in this story?

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posted September 25, 2008 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
GOT GEMINI - yes - Bluemoon's question is exactly the right question to ask now! (Thanks, BLUEMOON!)

Tell me, from your perspective, please: Could I turn it all around into a more comfortable thing again by plainly telling him something like: "Hey - I REALLY like you - can't get you out of my head - want to meet you again!" Is THAT the kind of re-assurance he migth crave?

I am a (shy) Cancer-Sun myself! With a shy(!) Cancer-Mars. And a self-critical Virgo-Venus ... I rather am afraid to be too direct ... or: too clingy ... I just plainly wouldn't DARE to go much further now ... because I feel so "refused" by him, suddenly... As if he really wanted to get rid off me now - suddenly. I mean: I was there, at his concert ... he left me standing there ... I wrote two e-mails to him later, that he didn't answer to...

NOW: I DON'T DARE TO DO "MORE", to be honest...

All I said to him (and wrote to him) was quite humurous (I hope), rather lighthearted, not the slightest bit of "clingy", I hope - and not alluding anything "erotic" or "overtly "flirtatious"... because I am not that quick myself!!! I just got hurt by love this spring ... I am an adult woman ... I'd love to get to KNOW him better - before we might go any further. But it seems as if he ... wants to sabotage that "getting to know him better"-thing.

And I'm afraid ... I'm gonna give up on this thing soon ... if he doesn't re-assure me again, soon - via one way or the other.

Don't know ... it is childish to act so overbearing like he did several times now, when we met - and to switch to such toddler-like unpoliteness soon afterwards. It's not ... "mature" ... and gives me a feeling that he might just want to play around...

I am not SO quick to start a sexual affair or anything. Especially: Not now! (He knows about my previous heartbreak a few monthas ago, just as I know about his heartbreak...)

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posted September 25, 2008 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message
That's the famous cancerian retreat. He's judst trying to process things and mulling it over. Trying to decide if you really like him or if it's an obligatory response. It's typical. I do it myself. He'll be back.

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posted September 25, 2008 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Natally his Cancer-Venus is in his 3rd house ....
- squaring his Saturn (12th)
- squaring his Chiron (12th)
- squaring his Mars (6th)
- squaring his Vertex (6th)

BUT: sextiling my Name-Asteroid which is conjunct (exact) his Eros in his 12th... ;-)

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posted September 25, 2008 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
alvarella, just get him alone (Venus in cancer values privacy very much!) and humbly tell him you like him and would like to get to know him. Don't be blunt, be sweet about it while still being yourself. All the things you said he is doing, he likes you too but is too scared to tell you about it so he is looking for that big sign that would tell him you like him. However, you could give him a million and one super obvious signs, he is scared of the embarrassment that it might just be all in his head and won't approach you. That is why it is important that you do this in private where no one can overhear your conversation or deduce what is going on.

And Blue Moon, if I were the one being sought after, I would absolutely make sure she would be good with kids because eventually, if everything went well, she would be in their lives. No overly provacative women need apply. I like the classic "Notebook" type of good girl.

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Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
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