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augentier
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posted September 27, 2008 10:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents, especially my mother, always criticized me for being "such an angry person". It's true..I am usually ****** off at something. I won't always make it known but on the inside I am usually upset..not good. I have violent tendencies and lash out when I'm really mad. Very short fuse.

On the flip side, I get over things just as quickly, and easily forgive and forget.

And this coming from sweet lil Mars in Pisces too bad it's square my Mercury, Uranus .. the likely culprit for my aggression/anger.

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posted September 28, 2008 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Aquarius in 6th. The same things that make bluemoon and deliverance angry make me angry.

The main things that make me angry are bigotry,intolerance of diversity,disrespect for the rights of others,mistreatment,cruelty,selfishnes,selfrighteous hypocrisy,and lack of compassion,bigotry,racism,prejudging others without knowing them,intellectual snobbery,condescension,patronization,putting people down

I once told a psychiatrist "It's ignorant ass people that make me irritable"

the aspects to my Mars in Aquarius in 6th:
conjunct Moon in Pisces in 6th
square Mercury-Venus in Scorpio in 3rd
square Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd


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posted September 28, 2008 01:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kind of funny, but it's hard to upset me.
I'm pretty good at taking things in stride.

BUT!....

I hate mean people! People who do and say mean things and don't seem to care or have any sense of empathy for others. That sets me off...

My favorite all time bumper sticker is "MEAN PEOPLE SUCK" lol!

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posted September 28, 2008 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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BM - you're not repeating the Mars opp Mars that your parents have??

My brother and I think our parents are on a 50 year argument that no-one has won yet. But they are also community activists. The Pisces/Virgo polarity works very well in this context. Mars Opp Mars isn't that bad, it's a see-saw creating a balance.

I DO have a Mars Opp Mars with my husband with 3 degrees orb. With Mars Aquarius, I expect to be treated like an equal. He has Mars Leo and expects me to be all around competent. So that works out well, we've run businesses together. Would I stand a better chance of keeping him if I acted dumb and let him be the man? Er, no. I'd rather be single anyway.

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I have Mars in Aquarius in 6th. The same things that make bluemoon and deliverance angry make me angry. The main things that make me angry are ...

Me too.

Standing up to an unjust situation is Mars in action the positive way. Mars channelled and under control is a powerful force that helps make the world a better place. It doesn't have to be like a child throwing toys out of the playpen.

It can be hard to get it right though. Learning when to say nothing is something I found hard when I was younger, less so now. But I still wonder why people let themselves be trampled on and say nothing to keep the peace. That's an Aqua Mars thing, I suppose.

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posted September 28, 2008 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioCentaur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Sag in the 11th house....

What makes me angry?
Fake people who arent genuine. People who lie. Those who are greedy and money hungry and whose whole world relies upon material possesions...
People who arent loyal friends...
And especially anyone who mistreats animals or doesnt like them or who has anything bad to say about my badly trained pup. Say anything negative about Venus (my pug puppy little girl) and you will face the consequences.....

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posted September 28, 2008 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My brother and I think our parents are on a 50 year argument that no-one has won yet. But they are also community activists. The Pisces/Virgo polarity works very well in this context. Mars Opp Mars isn't that bad, it's a see-saw creating a balance.

I DO have a Mars Opp Mars with my husband with 3 degrees orb. With Mars Aquarius, I expect to be treated like an equal. He has Mars Leo and expects me to be all around competent. So that works out well, we've run businesses together. Would I stand a better chance of keeping him if I acted dumb and let him be the man? Er, no. I'd rather be single anyway.


Sounds like you have internalised your parents' behaviours and found it with your partner maybe (signage would change the flavour though).

The only time I can think of having it was when I worked with someone who had their Mars opp Mars, I wanted to punch her lights out but we really had a t-square where she also had her Saturn square our Marses. Never got so angry towards someone (but none of it was released of course on her), I really hated her. However, it feel like I would say "Black" and she would say "White".

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posted September 28, 2008 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents Mars Opp Mars falls on my MC/IC axis. Or is that the other way around?

My younger son also has planets along this axis. He is the sweetest, quietest boy, but definitely has the Virgo/Pisces sense of rightness. Mars in Pisces has a terrible temper on those few ocassions it feels justified in letting rip.

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agree with Jane that Mars is how we express our anger, Moon might show what angers us

Then that would be injustice, unfairness and bad manners. Libra. Not saying thank you to waiters when they serve your food, that kind of thing.

The Moon is also Conjunct Pluto, chart ruler, adn I have a planetary water Void. Anger is my emotional reaction to the world. But in true Plutonic style, it is mostly kept inside.

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posted September 28, 2008 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, bad manners is something that is getting to me more and more as I age; of course, being Aries rising, I have no qualms using rudeness myself but I do have that contradiction.

BM, I don't really understand though how anger is your natural reaction. I would associate anger as a natural and first reaction if there was a high level of fire present in a chart and from what I remember, you don't have much fire. Would you say that you slow burn like a Taurus?

Also, would you say that you express your anger maybe in eccentric and unpredictable ways or moments because your Mars is in Aqu? (and verbally because it is in the 3rd?)

EDIT - is it because of the lack of fire that maybe you overcompensate with a firey emotion? This would maybe only apply if you had no firey planets in your chart.

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posted September 28, 2008 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BM!

Mars in Scorpio first house, trine Mercury in Pisces in 5th, opposite Venus 7th...and if you count a wider orb, part of a t-square with Jupiter/Mc in Cancer and Venus Aries.

I also don't get super mad very often. BUT, I tend to internalize everything. If someone does something wrong, I feel so let down, especially if I trusted that person.

I won't be around someone who's negative all of the time. Eventually, they won't be part of my scenery because I believe it's a choice.

I can handle it if someone's wronged you and you dislike them. But I hate prejudice in any form and I think using your power to lord over others is a sign of weakness and smallness of character.

My Mars shows anger in psychoanalyzing a situation and then seeing how I can serve that person a good lesson in a way that might hit home. Most of the time it's pretty subtle. (That is very Plutonic, I guess!) But...if someone is about to hurt someone that I care about, I lose my composure, and go for the throat...even when that person could easily squash me. Must be the Cancer involved...like a mother protecting a baby in danger.

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posted September 28, 2008 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Leo in the 9th forming a grand trine with the Moon in Aries and Jupiter and Uranus in Sadge. My Mars in Leo also squares my Saturn in Scorpio.

Oddly, with as much fire as I have, it takes A LOT to make me mad to the point where I actually attack someone, and it's usually the little things that end up breaking the camel's back for me... I'm very impatient though.

These things make me mad:
1) Intolerance for others without even trying to understand their point of view or the background they came from- AKA hateful negative people. What? You hate that person because he is not a Christian and you think that he is thereby immoral? Have you even ASKED him what he believes in? No? What? You dislike that person because they dress "funny," are from another country, and have an accent? UGH. NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU!!! (Can you tell I have Mars in the 9th? )
2) Not taking responsibility for one's actions or place in life. Oh? You didn't get that promotion because you didn't do any work? Don't come crying to me. What? You were talking crap about someone behind their back and they reamed you for it in front of everyone? Stop complaining. We are NOT all victims, so get over it!
3) Hypocrisy.
4) Pettiness and/or greed- I'm sorry, Mr. Millionare, but you won't hear me crying over the fact that you can't make payments on your BMW convertible and 3 million dollar house now that Lehman Brothers collapsed, when most of the country can't even buy groceries or afford health insurance.
5) Attacking people who can't or aren't there to defend themselves. See hateful people above.
6) Character defamation and mud slinging in general.- What Mr. McCain? Barack shall be compared to Paris Hilton? Fine, but only if I can compare you to George W. Bush. Seriously people... Focus on the issues!!!

I'm sure there are other things, but those are the main things.

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posted September 28, 2008 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
20 mothers walk past a dog turd on the footpath outside the school. Mars in Aqua in the 3rd might be the one that turns to the person next to her to say she thinks it's disgusting that someone left it there for the kids to tread in. No-one is likely to disagree.

Like a lot of people who have posted replies, I don't often really lose it, but there are plenty of things that annoy me and make me cross. Some of those things a watery person (like my mother) might see as hurtful or upsetting. But I'm only human, if someone sits me down and treats me to a character assassination, I am going to take it personally. If it's unfair, unjust, or based on b.s (like office politics) then I might get angry as well.


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posted September 28, 2008 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzled     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars is in my first house,
semi-square Moon (1deg)
squares Mercury(1deg)
squares Saturn exactly
squares Uranus exactly
Sesquiquadrate Pluto
squares Chiron

One of the most afflicted planet, if not the most, in my chart.
These aspects would give the potentials of violence, impulsiveness, explosiveness, cruelty and sadism in my personality.

In a weird twist, Mars is situated in Pisces at 27'30deg. No one has ever seen me flare up before. I don't think I've even really exploded before. Most people would say I'm happy-go-lucky and very cheerful.

I think it is because all these aspects are controlling elements that try to suppress the energy and fire of Mars. Furthermore, being in Pisces is already watering it down.
If I were to describe my anger, I would say it's blue. Cold blue.

However I would like to note that the hottest stars are the blue ones. Our sun might look fiery yellow/red but its temperature is not even half that of a blue class star.

So anger to me is elusive but ever-constant, often I do not even know what I'm angry about. I wouldn't say it's hidden rage, yet I feel like a simmering volcano at times. To answer this simple question of what makes me angry therefore is very hard for me. The answer is everything and nothing.

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posted September 28, 2008 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 28, 2008 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 29, 2008 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Despite Mars in Taurus, I get angered by slow people - walking slowly, acting slowly, talking slowly, thinking slowly .

Mars is in the 10th hs and a part of a T-square with AC and Uranus.

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posted September 29, 2008 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This morning a car had parked in the driveway of the school gates letting out kids. The gate is locked to prevent cars going down it whilst kids are walking in. Passes are available for a nearby carpark.

Now this annoys me, it is potentially dangerous and it is unnecessary. Plenty of parents have to go on to work or to do errands out of town. They don't mount the curb and leave the engine running, they park and walk a little way to take their kids in. It's the kind of selfish attitude, not giving a toss about anyone else, that sets me seething.

It's not something I take as a personal hurt, it doesn't upset me, it makes me cross. In my view that's Mars not the Moon.

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posted September 29, 2008 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lack of respect for the Community. ^^

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posted September 29, 2008 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Mars in Libra 7th House

opp Acs
trine Jupiter

** unfairness
** rudeness
** slow drivers
** injustice
** consistent laziness (I repeat, 'consistent' )
** power games
** moodiness
** thieves
** graffitti yobs
** reactive behaviour
** withholding useful/helpful information
** people who undermine
** tradespeople who don't focus on their job but expect full payment


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Mars in Taurus in the 9th. Quite a fearsome temper. I identified with swirl-kitts angries - people violating my personal rules that I have been clear about. Grrr.

People who say they're going to do something and don't. Don't say it if you're not going to do it. I lose respect.

People who deliberately wind me up. For example I hate having my feet touched and I can get violent if they are touched because they are extremely sensitive and I find it painful. If you pin me down and touch my feet you're not my friend anymore. Why would anybody do that deliberately? Yet people do.

I get angry when people scare me on purpose, either jumping out at me or telling me bad news to see a reaction. Not funny. I had an ex that used to hide from me because he knew I hated it. Dumped. You are not 12 anymore and my heart can't take the strain of the being frightened or the anticipation of it.

I get angry when my personal space is invaded. People grabbing me and steering me by the elbow, grrrr.

I will go thermonuclear if people keep doing these things if I've been clear about them.

I think my angries are quite "bodily". Ah, a new insight. I do get angry about other stuff but it's milder and I normally won't react verbally. Touch my body without respect and I'll bite your bloody head off and fight you.

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posted September 29, 2008 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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SARAH PALIN THREADS; IN PARTICULAR, THOSE THAT HAVE NO ASTROLOGICAL CONTENT

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Just Sarah Palin ones? What about Obama threads? How about those McCain ones? What about the abortion argument thread? The assorted black power threads?

I have Pluto conjunct Libra Moon in the 8th house, as well as Leo Sun conjunct Mars in the 7th.

I'm very diplomatic on the outside but I get angry inside, and I hate double standards.

But in general, the reason most people feel angry is that they feel they personally or their standards have been violated. I am the same.

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posted September 29, 2008 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just Sarah Palin ones? What about Obama threads? How about those McCain ones? What about the abortion argument thread? The assorted black power threads?

I mean the lot but Sarah Palin was mentioned because that was last thread that was put up. I wrote this reply after my spew on the other one which was a Palin thread (the Palin-Fey thread), that should explain my mindset when I wrote this. This is an Astroforum, issues should be related to astology so I'm OK with mentioning all these things but do it with an astro content not just to sling mud. Easy to say as I have said when you are not involved and it is not the heat of the moment, I've been stuck in personal debates as well here but this issue keeps on getting reignited. I like to try and walk away myself after blowing up once on an issue. Anyway the old rule is not to talk about religion, politics and sex, maybe we should still stick to that. Now back on to astrology...

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Yes, I added the examples of the other threads to extend the point, because I agree with you on the issue of the extent of political content on our astrological forum.

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posted September 29, 2008 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bvanzy,

what assorted black power threads?

There have been no assorted black power threads.

You were the person who accusing me of being racist because I talk about the truth of race relations aren't all that great here in USA and point out that racism against blacks is a reality in the country,and so Rev Wright has some founding to expess a lot of discontent about race relations here in USA. I posted numerous articles with urls to back up my argument including that American Civil Liberties Union called out USA on its racism and for sweeping it under the rug. Even President Bush admitted to NAACP that racism is still a problems. He said that you can change the laws but you can't change a human heart.


I posted my essay about race relations that include my belief of race equality as well as my poem expressing those views. I even proposed solutions in how we can improve race relations too. I even pointed out that I have a history of interracial dating and relationships. I even pointed out that the woman that I love is white. Most of all,I pointed out that I embrace my own multiethnic heritage. That's why I was one of only 2.4 percent of the US population to that identified as multiracial on 2000 US Census. You accused me of hating my white mother like I hate white people,and that was a very dishonorable thing to do to a person. AcousticGod called you out on that.


I feel that a person with some black ancestry who posts from the black perspective shouldn't be accused of being racist or believing in black power. That's definitely not me. I believe that there should be multiracial power...that is that all races have power..not just whites..not just blacks. I expressed those sentiments more than once.


Definition of racist:

a person who believes that he/she is superior because of his/her race,
a person who is prejudiced of other races,
a person who hates others because of his/her race


none of those fit me.

I am an anti-racist. A very passionate anti-racist. That is not a crime. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was also a very passionate anti-racist too. So was Frederick Douglass.


I am idealist in that I wish that we all get along and love each other(Moon in Pisces square Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd), but I am realist in that I know racism is still a problem(Moon square Saturn in Gemini in 9th). I believe that racism has to be acknowledged. We can't sweep it under the rug and pretend that it doesn't exist. It has to be addressed and resolved. We have to that through deep,honest interaction and communication with each other. We can't isolate ourselves and then pretend that race relations is something that we know about. This is coming from somebody who has always had multiracial interaction whether it was home(having a multiracial background),work,the navy,overseas...especially living in multiracial diverse areas like Sacramento,San Francisco Bay area, and San Diego which are all in California. I definitely have a strong understanding of both black and white perspectives and understand Hispanic and Asian perspectives too with having Puerto Rican relatives,half Filipino cousins,and having half Japanese stepsisters. I don't call my family, the United Nations for nothing. Heck..even the asteroid,UnitedNations is 17 minutes conjunct my AntiVertex.


I also want to point that there is nothing wrong with a person having pride in his race,his nationality,culture. I believe that it's wrong when a person believes that he/she is superior because of it. I believe that it's wrong when he/she treats others badly because they are not like them. I believe in diversity. I believe in the tolerance of diversity. My idealistic view what USA is a country of racial diversity and equality. That means that there USA is country of all races which are equal.

like Reverend Wright said
"Different doesn't necessarily mean deficient" in referring to that black culture is different but not deficient.
That's the same with any culture. Any culture that is different from another culture should not be viewed as deficient.

This is the point that I raise as an advocate of neurodiversity stemming from my being Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHD

That is
having a different kind of mind doesn't necessarily mean that it's deficient. Neurodivergent minds can be just as good as neurotypical minds.

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