posted November 17, 2008 08:15 AM         

"There's been a lot of talk lately about the return of the sacred feminine. This ain't it; Lilith is its mortal enemy."
I do NOT agree with this statement. Lilith IS one side of the feminine.

I hope this helps. I haven`t read it all through myself, but in a nutshell Black Moon Lilith represents the feminine archetype, even though mostly in a dark way. She is the dark side of the moon, and this dark side of the moon interestingly often appears almost Pluto-like.
To me she feels like a mix of Uranus, Pluto and Moon.

EDIT:
Glaucus has posted a very extensive and great desription of her symbolism on the site.

EDIT 2:
After having actually read the articles I must say it`s all a bit negative, isn`t it?
Personally I think Lilith relates very much to truth and honesty; so much in fact that she even gives up security and comfort for it, even love.
She can`t make compromises; it`s all or nothing. And every connection must be based on equality.

How this plays out in synastry depends how both persons react to Lilith.
If the guy is actually scared of an equal partner and wants an obedient one, he will try to overpower her and MAKE her obedient.
But noone overpowers Lilith, which can lead to nasty powerplays.

It also can mean that the guy is utterly repulsed by a woman who has strong Lilith traits and is strong and independent, but inside there is a very strong and raw sexual attraction. I once read that Lilith signifies the woman, that can drive a man over the edge, probably with both passion and fury.

But also for a woman Lilith represents not only how SHE is, but it also seems to signify what she will feel drawn to.

posted November 17, 2008 10:49 AM         

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But noone overpowers Lilith

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That made me laugh. Probably because
BML is exactly conjunct the Moon on my chart. And also conjunct Pluto.

posted November 17, 2008 05:21 PM         

so you see it's an abstract point like nodes of an object are. therefore it has no nodes.

like any placement,Black Moon Lilith can be both good and bad. it's not necessarily a bad thing...even if the mythology of Lilith is bad...that's from a misogynistic male point of view any way.

Lilith is mainly the feminist...it's not necessarily a manhating feminist. It could be the feminist who believes in equality,and sticks up for herself and doesn't let anybody push her around. She's highly emotional,sensitive,intuitive,and intense and is involved with shadow,occult dimensions of life.

apply those to the synastry and can indicate a highly emotional,sensitive,intuitive,intense connection that focuses on equality as well as get in touch with the shadow,occult dimensions of life.....if there is no equality,then rebelliousnes can be a problem.

posted November 17, 2008 05:56 PM         

The essence of the quote is very much like something I would say.

I checked my synastry and I can report that the Moon/BML conjunct on my chart is semi-square mr bm's Mars in Leo.

posted November 19, 2008 06:20 PM         

This is in synastry of course .

posted November 19, 2008 07:51 PM         

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 20, 2008 12:18 AM         

Also like the clairvision intepretation of Sun-Black Moon,my father was absent(I never knew him),and I fought against my stepfather too. He was very controlling and domineering. I haven't seen him since I was 18 years old. My mother wised up and threw him out.

my mother seems very Lilith-like too...both good and bad.

I also had numerous dreams of succubus. It makes me wonder if succubus actually visited me,but I am afraid to admit it.

so the Lilith theme plays bigtime in my life

I like Juan Revilla's take on Black Moon Lilith

posted November 21, 2008 12:25 AM         

but the true black moon lilith is h13 listed under hypothetical points

posted November 21, 2008 01:04 AM         

Thunder, Perfect Mind

For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored one and the scorned one.
I am the wh*re and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the mother and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.
I am the barren one
and many are her sons.
I am she whose wedding is great,
and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not bear.
I am the solace of my labor pains.

The whole thing is here: http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/thunder.shtml

posted November 21, 2008 02:34 AM         

BML in contact with the Moon is associated with difficulty in childbirth.

However, one of mine was born in 10 minutes, no stitches, although I was told I shouldn't be having a baby bigger than the last one naturally. He was bigger.

I had easy labours. I never went to ante-natal classes, I just turned up an pushed and swore a bit. I was very lucky.

posted November 21, 2008 03:10 PM         

My Venus is also conjunct the Alpha Serpentis,Unukalhai(it make think of eunuchs when I first saw that aspect in my chart...it was written as Unuk in my Kepler astrology report,and I was like..oh boy)

I read that it was a Mars/Saturn star associated with problems with love

also in medical astrology Venus-Mars-Saturn configurations are known to correlate with reproductive problems.

in Eileen Naumann medical astrology book, it is said that Unukalhai may induce chronic illnesses which may not be diagnosed for a long time if the star is conjunct natal Neptune(which is not in my case). she wrote that it rules operations.

any ways...I looked a hermaphrodite's chart with full birthdata that he listed on a site, and he happens to have Mars conjunct Unukalhai. He also has Fomalhaut conjunct Ascendant,and I read that star is associated with birth defects.

I have Moon conjunct Fomalhaut myself, but I don't have any birth defects unless you consider unusual developments like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD as well as higher estrogen levels reflected by longer index fingers being longer than my ring fingers indicating exposed to more estrogen in my mom's womb.

also Fomalhaut is in 3'28 Pisces exactly opposite my Saturn/Neptune midpoint in 3'28 Virgo which is the midpoint associated with chronic illness. So my Moon in 3'10 Pisces conjunct Fomalhaut and oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with the same orb 0 17 minutes of arc.