posted February 04, 2004 12:28 PM              

.gloria

posted February 04, 2004 01:15 PM            

My fave of his is still "Relationships and Life Cycles," which I quoted from earlier. It's really accessible, though it's not always completely linear. It's transcribed from a long seminar of his...wonderful book, you'd love it, folks.

posted February 04, 2004 02:12 PM              

You know, I can never find any of these good, meaty astrology books in the bookstores. Do you HAVE to purchase them online or something? All the bookstores ever have are books about sun signs and horoscopes for the year, and simplistic stuff like that.

Has anyone here read Liz Greene's book 'Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil'? If so, what does she have to say about Saturn in synastry, especially the hard aspects?

posted February 04, 2004 02:39 PM              

Yes, look at those aspects. I have to go in a bit so I'll try to provide more tips on that later this evening.

Can't wait to hear more on Arroyo...

Lioneye -

You have to find one of those "alternative" bookstores. Look under Metaphysical stores, etc. Sometimes Spiritual... stores.

If not then the Internet.

posted February 04, 2004 02:50 PM            

Moon Opp Pluto
Venus Sex Neptune (both ways mine and his)
Venust trine Pluto (both ways)
Mars sextile Neptune (both ways)
Moon trine Nep

Just to clarify we have Venus conj Venus and Venus conj Mars and Mars conj Mars (phew I hope you are not as confused as I am now!!)

posted February 04, 2004 06:59 PM            

lioneye, I do like his work very much. The other book is called "Astrology Karma & Transformation." It's pretty intense stuff. I like the other one better. I got them through a company I used to use to get charts till they became available free on the internet. I think their website is www.astrocom.com

The biggest thing is that Saturn is not necessarily negative...it's just that it teaches us lessons, and most of us don't wanna learn.

I've read that book, lioneye, New Look at an Old Devil, but I don't personally own it. I think a friend might, and if she does I'll see if I can borrow it.

And yeah, it's hard to find the meaty books, unless you live in near a major city with a metaphysical bookstore...*sigh*

posted February 04, 2004 10:38 PM              

Lordy!!! You are either cursed, or you are the luckiest girl in the world!!

.gloria

posted February 05, 2004 09:30 AM            

I've bought lots of books from Amazon, and I often go to half.com too for used books. They're very inexpensive, and half.com is a subsidiary of ebay, but you buy w/o bidding.

Another favorite place is www.abebooks.com
It's a clearing house for booksellers all over the world! You can find nearly anything, from really inexpensive used books, to rare collector's items for thousands of dollars.

lioneye, is it impossible for you to buy on the 'net? Because it's often so inexpensive to buy here. On the abebooks site, the Liz Greene book you want is as low as $6. It's $5 on half.com. And the Stephen Arroyo book I like is available on half.com also for $5.

posted February 05, 2004 12:12 PM              

BUT, I'm just going to have to get over it if I ever want to get my hands on some of these books, now aren't I?

posted February 06, 2004 03:48 AM              

My Saturn Conjunct His Aquarius Asc
My Saturn in His 4th House

His Sun Trine My Saturn
His Moon Trine My Saturn
His Mercury Trine My Saturn
His Jupiter Trine My Saturn
His Saturn Trine My Saturn

His Saturn in Libra Trine(?) My Acsendant Gemini
His Saturn in My 1st House

if this doesn't sound too soppy, when I'm with him I feel like I've come home!
Although they say the one with Saturn is the one in charge, I don't feel at all in charge when I'm with him I feel he's the "big protector" : )

posted February 06, 2004 01:21 PM              

You said

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My Saturn Conjunct His Aquarius Asc
My Saturn in His 4th House

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How can both of these be true? If it's conjunct his asc, it can't possibly be in his 4th house.

posted February 06, 2004 04:14 PM            

Jazz, I like Arroyo's "Relationships and Life Cycles" best, the one you ordered! And I can't wait to hear what you think of it...gosh, I hope you like it after I built it up so much! I haven't read the Liz Greene book you mentioned, but perhaps I should...

Beverly...you have some mutual Saturn aspects that could indicate strong karmic ties. Generally, according to Arroyo, if Saturn aspects the sun in synastry, it's the Saturn person who has valuable lessons to teach in the relationship--it does not necessarily mean the Saturn person has complete control in the relationship. And as with all of astrology, it comes down to the individuals involved and what they're willing to put into a relationship.
Rule #1: "Astrology indicates, it does not compel."

posted February 07, 2004 02:30 PM              

To me it seems you have great Saturn aspects. Wonder why he's pulling away? Sometimes Saturn can place a lot of demands on a relationship, and if he starts to feel that, he might need to pull away.

Or it could be due to other things.

.gloria

posted February 09, 2004 03:32 PM            

Beverly, I'm not an astrologer, and if I were I woulndn't analyze only Saturn aspects between you and your boyfriend to determine the longevity or purpose of your relationship. Really I think this entire thread has already given you loads of information to mull over, and you've received some personal advice as well. So I'm not sure what else I can offer you. If you have specific questions, throw 'em out and if someone has an answer, s/he will share it.