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Topic: Saturn in Synastry
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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 10, 2004 06:33 AM
 
it's so interesting because I dated a guy and we had venus square saturn both ways in synastry and then of course in composite. I just ended up hating him after 6 days! he's still my number one hate object of all time. And every person that I've had a venus square saturn or opposition I've felt like I either didn't like them very much or that we didn't have a connection. What are your other synastry aspects with this guy lioneye?IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted February 10, 2004 09:56 AM
Oh hey, Ariesrocks, the Saturn square Venus BOTH WAYS changes things a bit--that's a double whammy that can indeed be very difficult, according to Arroyo, at least.I think I quoted something from him in an earlier post illustrating that things like Saturn square Sun can be indicative of a long marriage, not necessarily a 'bad' aspect at all. But BOTH WAYs can make things very very difficult... So therein lies the difference. This is a wonderful thread. IP: Logged |
stellar1
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posted February 10, 2004 10:20 AM
This is a very informative thread! My last flame and I shared a strong Sun square Saturn and Sun trine Saturn aspect. If anything Saturn deepened the bond we shared, as opposed to taking us apart.
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lioneye68
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posted February 10, 2004 12:19 PM
YOu could be on to something there, AriesRocks. In fact, the same thing occured to me the other day when I was contemplating the Saturn deal in my current relationship, and I realized that I'm coming off a little candy-coated in my Saturn opinions. You absolutely MUST have some good, strong aspects as well in order to benefit from Saturn aspects in a relationship. They cannot a relationship make! At least, not on their own. Kelly and I also have a nice tight Venus/Mars conjunction, as well as a near perfect ascendant/ascendant trine (him Leo 3:51, me Saggie 3:56...5 seconds away from perfect!) Also, my Mars conj. his Asc, 3 of my planets fall in his first house, my moon falls in his 7th house, all kinds of lovely Jupiter aspects, Chiron aspects... etc. So, with all that going for us, I think we can probably bear the yucky Saturn aspects. In fact, they may even wind up being "gold" in the long run.  IP: Logged |
starflower
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posted February 10, 2004 04:21 PM
This is great for me because I have so little of understanding of Saturn.How about Saturn Opposition Pluto?
I dont really understand Pluto either, but I would imagine there has to some Karma whenever those 2 planets have any kind of aspect, whether negative or positive?
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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 10, 2004 04:32 PM
lioneye, what composite aspects do you have?IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted February 10, 2004 08:18 PM
Starflower, it really is tricky to wrap ones brain around how the outer planets, when aspecting one another will play out in a relationship. I think Pluto oppose Saturn is probably very potent, but I'm not sure how it would manifest. Maybe Pluto tries to transform Saturn, and Saturn simply shakes it's head and says "I don't think so, Tim" then procedes to throw a Saturnian lesson at Pluto, who then implodes and starts throwing plutonian bombs at Saturn, and so it goes....all on a subconscious level, mind you. You're right about the karma, though. You must have arranged to tango together before you came to the land of earthlings, imho.AriesRocks, can't recall off the bat, other than a Saturn trine moon. I'll check, thank you for asking. K, hoping this works 
BAH! Fricka frack! Didn't work.
OK, I could just tell you that we've got moon trine merc, venus, mars, SATURN (the bugger)Also, Saturn trine Mars and Jupiter, Venus conj. Mercury, and also, a not so nice sun square moon.
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starflower
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posted February 11, 2004 03:34 AM
Thanks Lioneye. Actually your interpretation made sense in the context of my fairly new relationship.
Its his Saturn and my Pluto, and I feel subconsciously like I am sometimes trying to manipulate him to see my point of view.Have to say that I am not usually manipulative, isnt that one of the things about each new relationship?We see sides of our character with every new person that we never saw before. This has been a big learning experience for me, I think that Saturn "teaching us lessons" is definitely at play here. I have seen sided to my character that I dont like too much, but I have learnt to deal with it and change it. This has been such a deep thread. Did anyone else get the Arroyo book?I wonder if it would be too complex for me, as a relative newbie to Astrology? IP: Logged |
Aen
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posted February 11, 2004 12:00 PM
Natasha,
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I have found the best relationships are those with strong aspects to the ascendant.
I'd guess somebody's Sun-Mars-Pluto stellium conj. my Asc. would count as a strong aspect? IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted February 11, 2004 01:11 PM
starflower, I think you'd benefit from the book! I'm an astrological novice too! There's loads of valuable info not just on Saturn but all the planets, transits, and synastry.Why not wait and see what Jazz thinks of it, so you have at least one other opinion before you invest? IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted March 25, 2004 05:06 PM
Ok, I had a brief conversation with my sweetie just now, and it smacked of Saturn oppose Venus energy.Me "Afternoon, _____speaking.."
Him "Hulloooo!"
Me "Hullooo, Baby!"
Him "Why do you always call me 'BABY'?"
Me "I dunno. Cuz you're my babe. Why? You don't like it?"
Him "oh, I don't care. It doesn't matter."
Me "Well, why did you say that then? What would you rather I call you"
Him "You can call me a$$hole....(then demonstrates..."Hullooo, a$$hole".
Me (laughing)"Ok, if that's what you want" But this hurt my feelings. Why did ask me that? Is it his Saturn, in opposition to my Venus that makes him uncomfortable with me calling him lovey pet names? Well, that's just too dam bad, because I'm a lovey pet name kind of person, so he'll just have to get over it. But now I feel awkward calling him 'babe or baby'  His Venus in Cancer is suppose to like that sort of thing. IP: Logged |
MercurialSag
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posted March 25, 2004 11:25 PM
do any of you have any insight into this?He has both Saturn and Pluto in Libra in the 5th house, and I have Saturn and Pluto in Libra in the 5th house. We both have Gemini rising but he's a Scorpio and I'm a sag. Is this an insanely explosive combination???!!! help! IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted March 26, 2004 01:21 PM
Sure lioneye, that Saturn of his wants to control your Venus, your expression of love,teach it a lesson or two. Stick to your beautiful guns.
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lioneye68
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posted March 26, 2004 03:15 PM
thanks, Trilly, I'm GONNA!! He's just going to have to get use to it. My Venus is in Leo, and that's just how I love.MercurialSag, I'm thinking you must have been born the same year, or really close to it as your beau, hey? You would have that conjunction with anyone born around the same time as you, but to have the same rising signs is good because you approach the life issues of each house in a simular fashion. I think you're better off to, not disregard altogether the mutual saturn/pluto conj., but pay more attention to the aspects his is making to your personal planets, and vise versa. That is where those two planets are felt when in aspect, is on the personal planets. IE, sun, moon, asc, venus, mars, merc...and to a lesser degree, Jupiter...UNLESS one of the outer planets is the ruler of your ascendant, then it becomes more of a personal planet as well. gawd, why is nothing ever simple? I meant for this reply to be brief...lol. IP: Logged |
MercurialSag
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posted March 27, 2004 10:43 AM
Thanks for the info Lioneye, I knew that Saturn and Pluto were the same for large groups of people born around the same time, but I wasn't sure how inportant it was. We were born 2 years apart, he on November 17, 1980, at 5:52pm in Chicago,Ill. and me on November 27, 1982 at 5:31pm in Worcester, Mass. Our charts are similar, but I'm not very good at sinastry or comparing 2 charts together. Is it significant that he's a scorpio, and that my Jupiter is in Scorpio (considering I have so much in Sagittarius?) He has Mars in Sagittarius and I have Mars in the 8th. Sorry this is also way longer than I meant.
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sthenri
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posted March 27, 2004 12:52 PM
Hello everyone, if this helps:
Saturn to 1st house contacts are significant, and feel significant in some way. It's not enough for a relationship sometimes, but it will be a powerful motivator for some.Natasha
Example-Your first house is ruled by Pluto in Scorpio. His Pluto and Saturn are conjunct. You would remember him.
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Oxychick
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posted March 27, 2004 01:49 PM
I've met someone I know I have a tremendous connection with-My Saturn falls in his 11th House and his Saturn falls in my 11th House. I don't know the significance of this. His Saturn squares my Sun, Mars, Mercury
His Saturn is trine my NN
His Saturn is opposite my Uranus
His Saturn is inconjunct Pluto in my chart My Saturn is sextile his Sun and Jupiter
My Saturn is inconjunct his Moon Our Saturns are loosely trined (7 deg. orb) Anyone know what Saturn inconjunct other planets could mean? Natasha,
My first house is ruled by Mercury. He has Saturn directly opposing Mercury in his chart. ------------------
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Jazzebel
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posted March 27, 2004 01:52 PM
Trilian,
I commented on the Arroyo`s book that you reommended to me before, in the book thread at Free-for-all IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted March 29, 2004 04:14 PM
lioneye, hello lovely lady. Your Venus in Leo not only needs to love BIG, but also needs BIG recognition! So be sure you let him know that. Jazz, hello to another lovely lady! I saw your post and responded to it on the other thread...I'm so glad you liked the Arroyo book!  to you all... IP: Logged |
kittie
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posted April 02, 2004 09:24 AM
Should I feel guilty? I feel I'm constantly wanting something from my gem dude although according to my friends he gives me almost nothing - emotionally. But because I am slightly into astrology I am afraid, knowing the meaning of the Saturn aspects. My Saturn is squaring his Sun and Moon, trining his Venus. His Saturn conjuncts my Asc. And in the natal chart I have Saturn squaring Sun. May be I frighten him and that's why he is pulling away. Is there love despite those hard Saturn aspects? Should I wait for him -Saturn always sits and waits, you know or should I run away and try to forget him? IP: Logged |
Ariesrocks!
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posted April 23, 2004 11:51 AM
I'm also petrified over some saturn composite aspects I share with someone.
Are there any couples with huge saturn aspects that can give some expereice advice?IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted April 23, 2004 01:01 PM
What sort of huge aspects? IP: Logged |
deuxantares
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posted August 13, 2008 10:38 AM
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winky_winky
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posted August 13, 2008 12:26 PM
it seems to me lately that the most separating aspects in synastry can be the lack of aspects, major ones, between each others moon sun and ascseems to point to a lack of compatibility also, i have some synastry full of saturn squares (wide-orb,some) with someone i really like and it is not working. He just wont committ and is very unfaithful so i have started the long and painful road to forget him even though it is killing me... so i am finally thinking that unless those saturn aspects involve some trines, hard aspects including the conjunction and the oppos are very difficult to overcome, especially because they are quite binding and thus more difficult to severe... IP: Logged |
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posted August 13, 2008 05:46 PM
We both have the Sun square Saturn, looks like we're doomed before it ever gets started. We also have these:Dawn's Sun Square Jeremy's Saturn
Orb 0°10' Separating
Dawn's Saturn Trine Jeremy's Moon
Orb 1°38' Applying
Dawn's Saturn Sesquisquare Jeremy's Sun
Orb 1°06' Applying
Dawn's Saturn Opposition Jeremy's Venus
Orb 2°40' Separating
Dawn's Saturn Trine Jeremy's Mars
Orb 1°47' Applying
Dawn's Saturn Trine Jeremy's Uranus
Orb 3°08' Separating
Dawn's Saturn Sextile Jeremy's Chiron
Orb 1°55' Applying
Dawn's Saturn Sesquisquare Jeremy's Ascendant
Jeremy's Sun Sesquisquare Dawn's Saturn
Orb 1°06' Applying
Jeremy's Venus Opposition Dawn's Saturn
Orb 2°40' Separating
Jeremy's Mars Trine Dawn's Saturn
Orb 1°47' Applying
Jeremy's Saturn Square Dawn's Sun
Orb 0°10' Applying
Jeremy's Saturn Semisquare Dawn's Pluto
Orb 0°59' Separating
Jeremy's Uranus Trine Dawn's Saturn
Orb 3°08' Separating
Jeremy's Chiron Sextile Dawn's Saturn
Orb 1°55' Separating
Jeremy's Ascendant Sesquisquare Dawn's Saturn
Orb 1°02' Applying Is it as bad as I think it might be?
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