posted February 02, 2005 06:59 AM         

Personally, astrology has taught me to be more forgiving when someone's actions cause me confusion...if possible, I look up their chart and sure enough, all is explained. I LOVE astrology...

posted February 02, 2005 11:06 AM         

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If Saturn makes many stress patterns in the chart, then this inner framework can be unduly rigid and unyielding to external influence. It is likely that it is built upon subjective fears, compressed anxieties, inadequacy, and an all-pervading sense of personal unworthiness. Feelings of self-doubt and inferiority are more inwardly experienced than is apparent on the surface.

He can thus be overly self-critical and plagued with personal guilt whenever he fails to live up to his demanding expectations of himself. He becomes overly sensitive to any sense of lack or deficiency he perceives in himself. This condition can be the signature of a bruised and battered ego that repairs itself very slowly and hesitantly

He may have a distorted sense of what he should or should not do. Perhaps one of the most important lessons to be learned here is the affirmation of one's personal self-importance. The individual needs to freely accept himself as he is (even his shadow parts) without empasizing a sense of shame, self-rejection, or personal disappointment. (by Bil Tierney)

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And another one from the same author:

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The individual may be tempted to withdraw from actively pursuing challenging tasks and duties in the world due to his underlying sense of incompetency.

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Is that why he admires me so deeply? I chase challenges... I go after them like mad... Otherwise, I get bored... My Mars and Jupiter are conjunct:

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With the conjunction of Mars and Jupiter, you have an abundance of energy and enthusiasm to take on tasks that would frighten all but the most courageous. In order to get what you want, you assert yourself fearlessly, even in the face of danger. You have a rather reckless faith in your ability to tempt fate and take chances, never doubting that you will succeed. What you lack in finesse you make up for in arrogance. You rise to a challenge at the slightest provocation, and your competitors have cause for alarm when you oppose them. You enjoy direct confrontation with your adversaries, and you revel in the accompanying glory and publicity (by Robert Pelletier)

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I´m a bit that way (a lot... ) I actually look so successful from outside, so fearlessly brave... I suppose people don´t see the failures, they may not be that evident, but I swear that they are there and are pretty painful... Maybe that gains his admiration but it can´t be doing any good to his battered ego and tortured self-steem... I must make him feel so small... Gemstar, after all, you are going to be right and he is going to be more scared of disappointing me that I am of disappointing him...
He won´t ever want to be with me... One of the reasons why I don´t want him around me is because I hate feeling small and he used to make me feel that way... Worthless...
Maybe I can offer him encouragement, that enthusiasm to undertake hard tasks... I may be able to push him forward...
But I also can unintentionally mine his bruised ego with my overpowering thrust and success...

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The individual with Retrograde Saturn is intently serious about completing whatever he has left undone in his past. He tends to want to go backwards in order to fill any gaps in what he had hastily considered finished before.

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Is that what he is doing with me? Filling the gaps? Am I an unfinished task?

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He tries to teach others, who are less knowledgeable or experienced than himself. Yet, he is unsuccessful if they have not gone through his past life 'fall from heaven' and his great struggle which has now earned him his way back. As a result of this, there is a built-in maturity in the Reatrograde Saturn that one could not have achieved without great personal struggle and sacrifice.

The Retrograde action of the planet can make him feel its restrictive force, particularly if he tries to escape the weight of its lesson. But, if he flows with it, understanding that through the patient guidance he is receiving, he is slowly being led to identification with something higher than he may have imagined, he can truly appreciated the workings of God's beautiful universe through this planet.

Saturn is one's teacher; and when it appears Retrograde, the individual has experienced similar teachings before this life. As the years unfold, there is an enormous amount of wisdom that steadily pours from the Retrograde Saturn.(by Martin Schulman)

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posted February 02, 2005 11:58 AM         

Now...keep in mind that this info is just an overall view of some of the lessons he will face in his life. Because you are not in touch with him and truthfully, do not know 'where he is' in his learning cycle...you must get to know him as he is TODAY. He may have already faced some difficult lessons (sounds like it) and is a stronger version of his former self.

You, OTOH, have to keep in mind that no one can 'make' you feel small...

Ususally when someone is putting you down (sometimes teasing), it is their attempt to make themselves feel better(because they really feel inadequate inside). Recognize that and remember...PLUS-you seem to like keeping up those 'old' memories of hurt...he has grown...you have grown...why not examine yourself and ask why you feel the need to keep on carrying this dead, outworn weight of youth? Write it off to immaturity and let go of it...

Why not decide to 'meet him all over again' and start off FRESH! No pre-conceived thoughts or judgments...Learn about him and who he is today...Let him find out who you are today...

I know that you want to connect again and hold on to these old thoughts because you are afraid he may not like you now. Chances are that this will not happen...chances are good that this reunion will be a surprise for both of you because you will discover a young man instead of the young boy you once knew....and he will discover and meet a beautiful strong woman instead of the insecure young girl he once knew...

Does this all make good sense to you?
Keep at it Steelrose...go for the FRESH!

posted February 02, 2005 03:13 PM         

I think we will like each other... We already did... But first, I´ll read all I can and get ready for the big jump forward... I´ve been carrying this for too long, it gave me a kind of security... But there is no point anymore. I´m strong enough now... He is the one who is more scared... He locked himself in to deal in that “retrograde” way... But I went out to fight the exterior world to build my confidence... And yes, I´m interesting, I´m brave, I´m nice... Why is he not going to like me? I just need to put myself together and hold my breath...

posted February 02, 2005 04:03 PM         

Look at what I found! We were talking about him visiting me in my dreams... Well, I found 3 harmonious aspects that point to astral travel, mental and telepathic conection! Three of them! Only one degree apart!

I got the info from Relationship Signs by Linda:

My Moon conjunct His Neptune (only 1º apart)

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If you choose, the two of you can save lots of money on your AT&T, Sprint or MCI long-distance calls and on your U.S. Post Office, Federal Express or UPS expenses. Why pay out all that cash to communicate when the two of you posess such an incredible telepathic tie? If you hone and sharpen and improve what you already have between you instinctively, you can reach each other any time you feel the need tugging on the pulsing cords and chords that link your minds hearts and spirits. (...) You both frequently answer the phone before it rings when the other is on the line.

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My Mercury trine His Mercury (only 1º apart)

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You have the ability to read each other´s minds, not so much through telepathy as because your minds are so often thinking the same thoughts! Your mental affinity is marked (...) You probably enjoy traveling together, anyplace and anytime... (...) When you´re not traveling geographically, you´re astral traveling, or making imaginative trips into each other´s minds.

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My Mercury sextile His Uranus (only 1º apart)

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...If there are no other planetary aspects between your birthcharts to dilute this one substantially, communication flows smoothly and nearly constantly between you, whether you are awake or asleep. You must have had more than one experience of meeting astrally in your dreams, which was recalled vividly later by both of you. (...) There´s a great deal of intuition and ESP between you...

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posted February 03, 2005 08:36 AM         

[MOON CONJUNCT his NEPTUNE]
ROMANCE LINKAGE. Neptune and the Moon are two highly romantic planets. This creates a karmic bond and the feeling that you were close to this person in a previous life. It is also usually a sign of immediate attraction on a romantic and emotional level. The effects of this linkage are usually lasting.

[MERCURY TRINE Your MERCURY]
Very mildly raises your level of ease in communicating with each other.

THIS IS THE SUPER LINKAGE!!!....
[CHIRON PARALLEL his VENUS]
ROMANCE LINKAGE. CINDERELLA LINKAGE. MAGICAL LINKAGE. In terms of romantic attraction, this is the most powerful linkage that you can have with anyone. This linkage occurs more often in married couples than any other linkage. If the two of you also form a Romantic Super Linkage, then you have the astrological basis necessary to fall in love. This linkage is also a sign that the two of you can be very helpful to each other, sometimes without even trying because being able to help each other is in the stars. That's why this linkage is MAGIcal. This is the linkage that COMBINES DESTINIES and it almost has a mystical power and seems to aid the linked persons in anything that they do together so long as they are in love.

[MOON TRINE his VENUS]
This is a strong karmic and creates a high level of attraction. But do not be fooled by this. This linkage is not formed by Chiron and is not a reliable sign of soulmates. Only Romantic Super Linkages are signs that two people can be soulmates.

[MARS SQUARE his VENUS]
SEXUAL CLASH or SEXUAL LINKAGE. Initial attraction, but the attraction often eventually fizzles out completely. In general, a sexual encounter with this person can be exhilarating for the first time, but don't get your hopes up for repeat performances or a real relationship. However, if the two of you also have another Sexual Clash, then for some reason, the two Sexual Clashes can with some couples combine to create a Super Sexual Linkage that is stronger than any single Sexual Linkage.

[MARS SQUARE his PLUTO]
SEXUAL CLASH. This is an activation that has two different results. If this is bi-directional or double retrograde, then this is an activation that normally creates sexual attraction and we call it a Semi-sexual Activation. On the other hand, if this activation is double direct, then this is a clash and it normally injects some antagonism into the relationship along with attraction. But in either case, if a couple has this activation and another Sexual Clash, the result is a Super Sexual Linkage.

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Now, you do have some saturn clashes as well with Number 1...but let's just start with these and comparing them with the traditional astrological aspects...and then go figure out where difficulties may arise based on more difficult aspects between you two...

Sorry this took a bit of time...it is a little laborious and I am trying not to take advantage of my friend's computer...she paid quite a bit for this software and I try to be cool and not abuse it! Hope this helps and thanks again for your patience!!!

GemStar

posted February 03, 2005 10:49 AM         

Hmmmm... Let´s see, there is only one Cinderella aspect, two very strong sexual clashes (do they combine into a super sexual linkage? How do you know that?) and Saturn clashes... Is ours such a good pairing then? Not convinced... I´m trying to be realistic here... Conventional Astrology is a bit more positive, I´d say... The only aspect that I´d worry about according to it is the Mars-Pluto square... The others are workable and even can spice the relationship up...

However, Magi Astrology appears to be less promising... What do you think?

Does Magi come up with a trine between my Moon and his Sun? I do get it in my calculations... Even His Moon could be trining my Sun... (Remember that I don´t know his time of birth but it could be... it would have trined it during the day of his birth...).
According to Conventional Astrology, this is a very powerful aspect romance-wise... Especially because it could be double...

Sun trine Moon

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... is the best possible indication of radical harmony between lovers and an excellent foundation for marriage. If troubles arise, causing occasional separations, they´ll almost surely be temporary. Tthe door is always open for recontiliation, if that´s your desire. And it will be.

... at least 95 percent of the time, those who have such a luminary aspect between their birth charts can count on a cosmic insurance policy against any acrimonious or permanent destruction of their relationship...(...) This vibration won´t prevent quarrels, arguments and various problems initiated by negative aspects, but it will powerfully assist resolutions of upsetting events. With this astrological gift, should the two of you break off your relationship for any reason, you´re guaranteed repeated opportunities for reconciliation. (...) The reason for the excellent harmony bestowed by these luminaries aspects is that the Moon´s emotional nature and the Sun´s personality are compatible; therefore the entire relationship is basically harmonious, regardless of discordant vibrations from other planetary aspects...

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I have to go soon... Important appointment in the bank... But I´ll come back later to analise the aspects you posted under Conventional Astrology, OK? That way we can see the differences...

posted February 03, 2005 11:42 AM         

ANY Cinderella aspect is the BEST!! Many people/couples do not have any(see JLo and Ben A.). Never have I come across a couple who married who did NOT have a super-aspect. If I do not see one within the two birthdates, there will most likely not be a marriage...and it is not worth wasting your time any further (eg. 2nd guy).

Read more on the Magi site...they have very specific rules they follow...it is just a bit more confusing than the usual astrology.
Not to worry...Magi likes this pairing of you two...if it were more negative, it would be seen as so!! You are doing just fine...

posted February 03, 2005 07:08 PM         

I read somewhere in the Astrology forum that it is a sign for crushes... If it´s mutual, both of us would be under that platonic influence... We actually are somehow tied, because we keep coming back to each other, no matter what we do trying to evade it and escape from each other... Maybe Magi doesn´t consider it because a crush is not a guarantee for a long lasting and successful relationship... So, both could be right...

A question... What is the difference between Romance linkages, Romantic Super Linkages and Cinderella Linkages? Which of those is our Chiron parallel Venus?

Well, let´s see the aspects you posted under Conventional Astrology... I already did Moon conjunct Neptune and Mercury trine Mercury... Again Magi doesn´t give much importance to this last one... But it does help to smooth things over... And communication is very important in a relationship... I´m convinced those 3 aspects allow him to visit me in dreams... And that call is what is awakening me...

My Moon trine His Venus (3º apart)

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Strong vibration for marriage because you have a calm and soothing effect on each other, much affection, and mutual devotion. As a couple, you´ll find that this aspect goes a long way toward mitigating any personality conflicts in your intercharts

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This one is more like the Magi interpretation... Beneficial and positive but not definitive... Just soothing... Good anyway...

My Mars square His Venus (3º apart)

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The sexual chemistry between you is powerful but, unfortunately, that´s not the end of the story. Both before and after marriage, the strong stimulation of the passionate nature of both tends to break down restraint barriers, and there could be excesive sexuality in one or both partners, which may lead to indiscretions. Naturally, this can destroy harmony. Jealousy could bring serious friction to your relationship, and you´re both overly emotional. You´ll need plenty of positive aspects from the other planets in your birth charts to dilute this one. A commitment is a commitment, so don´t make one unless you intend to keep it. Subdue any latent urges toward promiscuity if you want love to last. The future of your relationship is yours to protect and nourish – or to destroy. Astrology can´t make that decision for you. This vibration is a soul test. As the poet Kahil Gibran wrote, “Think not that you can direct the course of love... for love, if it finds you worthy, will direct your course.

...this vibration acts as an intensely magnetic stimulant in the beginning, but this is just the planets´ way of seducing you into thinking everything is always going to be whipped-creamy smooth and delicious. It is not. It can occasionally be more like sour pickles mixed with that hot stuff in Mexican food, or meat dishes called “blackened” that foolo you until the first bite turns your unexpected tongues into a flaming barbecue. (...) As for stimulation, there´s stimulation – and then there´s stimulation. In this case, it could become overstimulation that turns into a mutual stance of stubborn resistance with little attempt at compromise. There could be clashes of temperament- and tempers!- and periodic annoyance and hurtful words, later regretted. If you´ll forgive my being logical, words never spoken don´t need to be later regretted. So bite your tongues and try unbending a bit. Mars could at times feel smothered by Venus´s possesiveness, or by the way Venus takes unintentional hurt so seriously. Venus can be deeply wounded by Mars´s sometimes rash behaviour or thoughtless speech.
Tell you what. Mars, tone down your tendency to domineering behaviour. Venus, curb you unnecessary oversensitivity. Then both of you hold hands, go out at midnight, and wish on a star together...

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I recently splitted up with someone who I had this aspect with. It was my Venus and his Mars. And it was exactly this way... And it was hell... It wasn´t as close as this one in orb, and still it was unsufferable. This kind of behaviour mined the relationship from the start. We couldn´t do anything for that not to destroy us. I don´t think I can go through this again... I hope I learnt the lesson, as now it is my Mars instead of my Venus... so I should be looking at the problem from the other side... because now I know in my flesh and heart how Venus feels...

Tomorrow, I´ll examine Mars square Pluto... Did I understand wrong or having those ugly sexual clashes together combines them into a Super Sexual Linkage? So it could be a blessing having them together instead of just one...

posted February 03, 2005 07:58 PM         

For the different 'levels' of interpretations...go onto the www.magisociety.com website...it is all in there...

I don't know how to do exact links to get you to certain pages but just do some exploring there and you will learn a lot!

posted February 04, 2005 01:40 PM         

Well, I have had a look to the Magi Astrology website as you suggested. Now I´m more familiar with the terminology... I know what a linkage is and which of those are considered ROMANTIC LINKAGES, what activations and saturn clashes are and also what HEARTBREAK and NUCLEAR CLASHES are.

I downloaded the first seven chapters of the "The Key to Success in Love and Money" Magi Astrology book for free and I will give them a good read... Apparently, another important ROMANCE LINKAGE we have is My Neptune trine His Venus, which is also a SUPER LINKAGE because his Venus trines his Neptune and also because my Neptune conjuncts my Moon.

Can you confirm this, please? I enclose the interpretation of the aspect under Conventional Astrology. It would be great if you could post its interpretation under Magi and then we can compare them...

My Neptune trine His Venus (only 1º apart)

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The ESP bond between you is powerful-and reliable. With all the kindness, consideration, generosity, affection and devotion you share, your relationship is wonderfully armonious (expect from temporary periods when other discordant aspects between you vibrate briefly). Adopt a few pets, investigate mystical matters together and don´t be afraid to expect the miracle of happiness. You´re both silently aware of a fantasy aura around you, with hints of a magical fairy tale, whether you´ve spoken of it or not. You know it´s there.

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posted February 04, 2005 02:48 PM         

YES!! How did I not included that one above?? I saw it but somehow did not write it for you! Oops!!

[NEPTUNE TRINE Your VENUS]
ROMANCE LINKAGE. LIFETIME LINKAGE. ROMANTIC GOLDEN LINKAGE. This is one of the most powerful Romance Linkages and is often symbolic of an enduring romance. In terms of creating lifelong relationships, this is the best Linkage other than the Cinderella Linkages. This great linkage bestows and sustains a very harmonious, peaceful, serene and romantic union. It also improves the quality of sex between the two of you and even helps the two of you succeed and make money in what you do together.

OK...you also did not have any Nuclear or Heartbreak clashes overall...some saturn clashes are normal...one or two is fine...when it gets to 3,4,5...it gets ugly! I think you all are OK...as long as you did not have any of the BIG ones...

Read the chapters you have...explore the site and learn more about the different meanings by clicking on the celebrity information page..it is fun and an easy way to learn quickly!

posted February 04, 2005 05:23 PM         

So we have TWO Romance Super Linkages!!! Those are the ones for marriage, aren´t they? And one of them is a CINDERELLA one... I´m quite impressed...

I have printed off those chapters and I´ll start reading them tomorrow!

Another question (sorry)...

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Two people form a Super Linkage whenever one person has a planetary aspect, and the other has a natal planet that forms a linkage angle to any of the two planets of the aspect.

A Super Linkage always has three planets and two interaspects, and at least one of them has to be a linkage (120, 150 or 0 degrees). The other interaspect can be any other angle, even an activation angle.

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Therefore, My Mars square His Venus and My Mars square His Pluto form Super Sexual Linkages because my Mars trines My Uranus, his Pluto conjunts mine or his Venus trines his Neptune... But they don´t combine together because they are both activations, do they?...

Does the fact that they are “Super Linkages” make them worse or not as bad?

posted February 04, 2005 05:54 PM         

With the software, they (Magi) do not spell out all three planets in the super linkages...they read just as I have them. I am not sure why they write as such...only the two planets are in the definition.

Again, read the celebrity charts section...you will really learn a lot and will have a better understanding of the balances that work and those that do not.

posted February 05, 2005 01:05 PM         

My Mars square His Pluto (only 1º orb)

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With this vibration, some form of sexual perversion is possible (not probable, only possible), as are other kinds of sexual difficulties, such as frigidity, impotency, or infertility on one side or the other. Various adjustments will have to be made, for this is one of those aspects of past karma needing to be balanced. There are some couples sharing this vibration who find that the difficulties they endure in their relationship have the effect of drawing them closer together. Thre can be no compassion where there is no pain. And compassion is a sublime healer – of anything. Anything at all. Avoid confrontation at any cost, whatever you do, because a simple argument or disagreement between you two can quickly erupt into full-scale war, featuring minifields that make the ones in Vietnam and the Gulf seem like the flower-strewn meadows in The Sound of Music! Mars and Pluto are natural enemies (...).

This is a tough nut to crack, as they say. A couple of saints could handle it smoothly, but as for ordinary humans, well, it´s a rocky road. Each of you has a strong will. Very strong. In a dispute between Mars and Pluto, the odds as to who will win are exactly even. No experienced gambler would take a chance on betting. The disputes will involve the resistance by each of you to any display of authority or command by the other. (...) It´s possible for Mars to hinder or interfere with Pluto´s plans and projects, and for Pluto to be either mildly or strongly vindictive toward Mars in response, due to Pluto´s latent urges for revenge. The often thoughtless and hasty speech that is part of Mars´s personality pattern is capable of infuriating Pluto. It´s risky for anyone to anger Pluto seriously, but corageous, impulsive Mars will likely not be daunted by such risks and will instead plunge forward, following the old adage “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread”. The treading, however, will more resemble stomping in where angels are too wise to go. Dear me, what to do? What to do?
You have only two choices – and no more – if you want to avoid the powerful stresses this vibration can bring. (...)

1. Make certain that your association is not a close one if you both live, day after day, under the same roof. If you communicate only now and then (...) this vibration will be much milder than if you´re involved in a more intimate relationship on a daily basis, in which this aspect is definitely dangerous, or at least a threat to tranquility.
   
2. Assuming that you have other harmonious (and therefore neutralizing) aspects in your intercharts, use them to (a) bite your respective tongues; and (b) take turns accepting each other´s efforts at dominance greacefully.
   “All well enough,” I can hear Mars saying “but Pluto is too selfish.” Now I hear Pluto grumbling, “Me, selfish? Ha! Mars is the selfish one.”
   You know what? You´re both selfish! You should each try a tad of tolerance... (... ).
   

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posted February 05, 2005 02:53 PM         

Relax, relax...remember that you are now armed with knowledge by using astrology...work WITH it. Since you are the Mars, a lot of the control/anger may come from you so it will be up to you to stay on top of that!!

Also, ALL synastry has difficult aspects. If they were too much the same, it would never grow. I just had a small disagreement with my man...which rarely happens...and I know that it will make us closer and fix the hurt that had remained unfixed...we are ALWAYS closer afterward...even when I feel as scared as I do now. (We had a tiff about loyalty and I showed my rather passionate nature and directly told him to never question my loyalty to him...ever.)(AND I am Scorp Rising and Venus Taurus...how dare he!) Not sure if he was testing me on that one though...he knew I was hot about it and did not call after that one. (Sorry to digress...just missing him ).

Long story short, there will be negatives and positives as well. I used to be devastated if I saw neg. aspects but now understand the growth necessary from such aspects for the relationship to become stronger.

If you do not want a fighting relationship, you do not have to let it happen as such. Just be aware of the aspect. LOL...and trust me, you will be aware and struggle to control it until it becomes managable! Not a problem..you have many other good aspects to be excited about...

Not to mention you have yet to meet him again...and find out his scoop!

posted February 06, 2005 09:43 AM         

How are things going with your man? I can sympathise with you there... I´m also that way: “Don´t you ever question my loyalty, boy” I hope he has already called you...

True that it is my Mars in there... And the one squaring Venus... And my Pluto opposing his Venus... He must naturally turn me into a hot head and probe my temper...

Let´s analise a positive one, just to make me feel better... I know we do have many harmonious aspects to balance terribly nasty ones like the previous one, but they sound so awful...

My Neptune trine His Saturn (3º orb)

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Here´s a planetary aspect interpretation that´s short and sweet! Neptune provides the imagination and inspiration Saturn very much needs. Saturn provides the practical wisdom and stability Neptune very much needs. A nice exchange. The vibration here is certainly harmonious, but not of great inportance, relatively, compared with others. Still, it does help your canoeing together when the wind ruffles the lake, not to mention when you´re caught in a storm and lose your paddles!

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posted February 06, 2005 11:17 AM         

Neptune is making a MAGIcal Angle to your Saturn. When this happens, romantic and idealistic Neptune gives your cold Saturn a heating pad and warms it up. This makes you more loving and you are more likely to believe you are in love. But remember this is not a Cinderella or Romance Transit.

Hi Steel...the aspect goes out 3.59 degrees and usually I do not look to much beyond 3 degrees orb.

Which site are you looking up your astrology information?

posted February 06, 2005 11:40 AM         

I found out that the Moon turned void at 19:15 GMT and was void for the rest of the day when he was born... So he could have a void Moon... With all the 5 retrogrades, if he also has a void Moon, this poor guy is really screwed up astrologically... For Godness sake! What did he do in his previous life?

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Void-of-course Moon people do not react to life or life´s happenings in predictable ways. It is as if the inhibitoty valve in the brain is somehow stuck, and the filter doesnt filter out all stimuli. (...). For example, they may be getting on the bus like you and me, but they also have the birds singing and the clammy air and the distant siren and the red balloon in the sky and the blades of grass poking up through the pavement cracks and the sensation of basking in all eternity. They have to deal with these sensations on a constant minute-by-minute basis all their lives and have the exact change ready.
Do not expect them to react in “normal” ways to life´s challenges. (...) These unusual people like to stop and see the leaf fall. They live to make grand, extraordinary gestures.(...)
Most void Moon children have absentee mothers- sometimes the mother is eccentric, even crazy. Sometimes there is a good mother, but the nanny looking after the child is a little off beam. The child may have a string of mother substitutes before the age of six, so the child is confused in how to model her behaviour. In extreme cases too many mother substitutes and the lack of one constant maternal influence can cause “splitting off” the personality, laying the groundwork for mental illness in later life. (...)
They drive everybody crazy, though. If a Moon void person does not or cannot get in touch with his greatness soon enough, look out! They will affect the lives of dozens of other people with their negative attitude and irresponsible behaviour. (...)
These people are so wide-eyed and vulnerable that it is essential for them to have a slew of trusted advisers to keep them on the Earth plane: good lawyers, common sense friends... (...)They pay a price for their originality, even genius; theirs is a constant fight to keep from getting shafted. They simply cannot tell the difference between good companions and connivers. (...).
Drugs and alcohol are poison to them. (...) New worlds open for us because of what these people give. Their lives are not “ordinary”, “normal” or “easy”. (by Debbi Kempton-Smith)

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posted February 06, 2005 01:01 PM         

OK-Where did you go to check the Moon-void timing? I have been wondering about how to do that myself...

And wow...that poor guy...life has not been so easy for him....sure must explain a lot to you! And also makes it a bit easier to give him compassion....it melts even the coldest hearts! (Not that he has a cold one...just one that needs a good shake!!)

posted February 06, 2005 02:52 PM         

I have all Moon transits from 1930 to 2030 listed in there with all the Void Moon periods...

If you are curious about particular dates, just ask... I´m here to help you!