posted April 13, 2006 03:18 PM              

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Selena~ did your Scorpio get you, or what happened?

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posted April 13, 2006 05:58 PM            

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Hi Cappy,

No, he hasn't in the end (although, it is not the end yet). It is a long and complicated story, but in short, I was married when I met him, so it was impossible. From my point of view, it was completely impossible, because I do love my husband, and I cannot cheat. And the Scorpio doesn't expect me to, he is very respectful, and I really like that about him.
But I never experienced anything like that before, ever, and I hope that, if the next life exists, I will meet him in different circumstances. I think that in this life it was not meant to be, but it was worth experiencing the feeling, I cannot even start describing the intensity and depth...
I also can't explain the pain I've felt after meeting him, emotional and physical pain, I thought I was going to die...But the strange thing is, perhaps I am even happy that nothing could come up of it, who know how it would end up, one never knows in real life, sometimes it is better for things to stay in imagination, perhaps the reality would spoil the dream, I don't know...
I think, reading some of your posts, that you may be going through similar emotions, the best of luck to you two. Love, Selena.

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posted April 13, 2006 08:36 PM            

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celticfyre

I read your post from start to finish a couple of weeks ago and I'm new to this board. I was going to post something different (to encourage you), but now that things are mending between you and your crab, it's not needed and I'm so happy for you. I'm loving a scorpio man and he is as genuine as you are to your crab. My cancer moon still has me taking baby steps with him, but he is very understanding and I KNOW this is so hard on him (it's hard for me too!) But that's what helps me become more and more sure that he is sincere and is not out to hurt me. If he didn't care, he would have left me long ago. Reading how you are sticking with your crab is very reassuring.

Wow, you really care deeply for your crab. You touched my heart when you wrote how you cared for him when he got sick and then he turned around and stuck by you when you weren't feeling well. Also, I like how you are not submitting to "getting him back" but rather "working it out". A true scorpio/eagle mentality. You guys are great.

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Make the most of the full moon tonight in scorpio (4/13) it's supposed to be an ultra romantic time for scorps and those involved with them.

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posted April 13, 2006 08:54 PM              

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Thank you for your post LD Yeah we loyal Scorps are worth it... if only given the chance... forget about the intensity of it all...think of it as more of a conviction. A conviction based on how true we feel about someone. If the conviction wasn't there neither would the intensity. Does that make nay sense.??

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posted April 13, 2006 10:02 PM              

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celticfyre
OH MY!
No wonder he is hesitant!
Give him time!
Unless your biological clock is ticking and you want your OWN kids, then try to work it out with him.
He was dumped when down.
I will not post what my Cancerian said about your Cancerian's ex-wife!
But suffice it to say...this Cancerian you desire, MUST know you will NEVER dump him!
He cannot commit until is is very nearly 100% sure of that!

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posted April 14, 2006 06:05 AM            

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Hello,

Yes, we love Celtic and her Crab!

It is wonderful that in this world of instant rewards someone is not giving up.
I totally understand Celtic when she says "intensity and conviction". That is what Linda says about Scorpio woman in love, if she feel her soul burns, than she knows this is it, otherwise, she doesn't give them a second glance.
Celtic, hang in there, give him time, as wise fayte says, and lets hope that it will all fall in its place.
Keep us posted, we cheer for you, Love, Selena.

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posted April 14, 2006 09:20 AM              

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Hey Fayte---
what ever your crab said about my crabs ex-wife I am sure he would agree, but then say he was being too kind
My Biological clock isn't really ticking at all...in fact I have made peace with it any children I have I know I will be step mom to them and I am all for that. He also knows that I don't have a need for my OWN kids he is not wanting to have more kids even though he loves them. When his little sister made him guardian over her new baby incase soemthing happened to her and her husband it kind freaked him out he made the comment of "I don't want any more kids" He also told me that I was the closet anyone has come to breaking into his shell. I also told him that I would be the last woman on earth to chew him up and spit him out that I wasn't that way. I don't know what good will come of it. I feel we are back at the point when I first realized he might be interested in me at least in his behavior towards me. SO wel will see...
Thanks Selena also for your support!

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posted April 14, 2006 12:35 PM            

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SELENA:it was great to know about your love .
i dont know if its a cancer thing or what but this is something that i have always felt myself . i still love and respect both the women that i have ever had a feeling for though at the same time , at present i have strong feeling for my present crabby gal.
earlier i used to wonder if this was something abnormal , thanks for reaffirming though .
is it the ever optimism or the unrequited love ?

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no i dont love him, i am jealous of him

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posted April 14, 2006 02:59 PM              

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celticfyre!!!!!!!!!!!

OOOHHHH OOOOOH!!!!
THIS SOUNDS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

"He also told me that I was the closet anyone has come to breaking into his shell. I also told him that I would be the last woman on earth to chew him up and spit him out that I wasn't that way."

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The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted April 14, 2006 03:04 PM              

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So Fayte,

I'm at the point of "now what?" I am going to the station tonite to help some other members work on some drills for fire school. He will be there. It will be my first time back to the Friday nite crew since all this other crap happened. So how to act how to be all that silly stuff.??

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posted April 14, 2006 05:29 PM            

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Celtic,
Just be yourself, be natural, don't act. I am sure you will be fine.

Cancerrg,

Thanks for your interest, yes, we Crabs have long memories...

All the best, Selena.

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posted April 14, 2006 07:03 PM            

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Thank you Celticfyre. I posted to you to offer support to you and you turned around and enlightened me. That is exactly how I will look at it from now on..."conviction". On the outside, my "conviction" may not look as *obvious* intense as his is, but I'm totally devoted, once I commit, and he will never have any fears of my turning my back on him or stop loving him. But I guess I am scared, right now.

I've been very upfront with him about my trust issues, and he really seems to understand, but he's really ready for a committed relationship, and he says I'm the one he wants. But I don’t want to turn the attention to me on your post. I just wanted to thank you for your advice. You gave me such a clear perspective. I'm so glad you shared that, God bless you.

Your cancer man knows who you are (if you know what I mean by that) and he loves you deeply.

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posted April 14, 2006 08:06 PM              

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celticfyre
Like Selena said..
BE YOURSELF!
Don't act.
And be calm and normal.
Just like to any friend/co-worker.
If he smiles, smile back.
This is work...right?
Remember that it is not a date.
Good luck!

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~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted April 15, 2006 12:33 AM              

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Thanks guys for all the advice.

Well, court for him went badly for him not in his favor and it was his appeal he ended up with a judge that finds even more for the ex than the others have. SO needless to say he was not in a good mood. I knew it hadn't gone well even though he hadn't said anything until today...I sensed it. Somehow (and I could be wrong about this)but it seems the more she gives him to cause him to get angry and p.o'd. the further it drives him under...away from me , and others except those in his closest circle which I thought I was part of but now I am not so sure. I am giving him time like Fayte said and I can only hope that LetsDance is right about how he feels about me...I can't trust my own instincts as far as that goes now lest I feel delusional about it.

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posted April 15, 2006 09:55 AM            

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Poor guy,

I feel really sorry for him.
But if you keep just being there, and be patient, this stage will pass and he will open up again. And as you say, your sensing and instinct will guide you, listen to them, at least Scorpios are good at it (especially with Cancers, I think they can read each other's mind).
Heck, if very soon he doesn't realise what he has in you, such loyal and trustworthy friend, than, perhaps he doesn't deserve you to wait for him.
But I do hope that everything will be fine, ~All the best, Selena.

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posted April 15, 2006 10:12 AM              

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celticfyre
He is not at his best self right now.
Until his head clears and his emotions numb out a bit, over that issue with the ex... he will be very moody. The court thing just happened?
Ouch!
Give him a simple card note. No mush.
Say something like.." I am here if you need me. I will not let you dowm. I care about you dear "his name". Then sign your name however it feels right to do.

Right now, gentle and persistant is important.
Simple unspoken or lightly spoken words of "I am here, I care"...and a smile. GENTLY, but persistantly.
Ever try to tame a wild scared kitten?
It bites and scratches, hisses and runs.
It wants your pettings and cuddlings and the tender morsels you can give it.
But it is scared, and wild and has been beaten by people, chased by dogs, and needs gentle persistant persuasion to come to feel safe and trust you and love you.
Patience is required.
Good luck!

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~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted April 15, 2006 11:09 AM            

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Fayte,
You nailed it...perfect analogy and course of action to offer healing to a cancer who is hurting.

CelticFyre,
If you are anything like my scorpio, you have patience, and determination. You can handle this. Let him know you are there for him, and then *be* there so he will know it's not just idle words. He knows who you are, just give him this space now. Too many emotions, too much sensitivity going on now. He'll open up to you when he feels safe.

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posted April 15, 2006 11:38 AM              

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LetsDance
Perfect!
"He'll open up to you when he feels safe."
OH GOD!
When a Cancerian really does come to love and trust and feel safe with you...
WOW WOW WOW WOW!
I cannot imagine a better beloved!

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted April 15, 2006 04:16 PM              

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Thank you guys yet again. Gentle, patient, persistance I hope it will pay off. I would like to send hi a card but Leaving it in his mailbox in the station he may not get it in a timely fashion or even see it (there is so much junk in there now) Maybe perhaps a simple e-mail. I felt so bad last night when I left the station to go home he was in the day room alone when I went to say good night and I wanted to give him a big hug and tell him how sorry I was that things had gone badly for him, but I resisted. thinking with all that emotion flowing around it would backfire on me in some way..so I guess I have to just bide my time.Thanks for putting up with me

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posted April 19, 2006 03:23 PM              

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Well, I sent him the e-mail. I got no reply--really didn't expect one. But I know he reads everything sent to him. He came up to the station last pm (we are going thru some rebuilding and renovation there so theres alot of moving and rearranging going on)so he was up there to do some work. Anyway I wasn't immediately around when he arrived and I tried not to be constantly around him but when I was he was the one who kept initiating conversation about stuff with me nothing heavy or serious. And he finally said something about my hair!! this may not seem all that important but as long as he's known me I have colored my hair...my natural clor of reddish brown has gone mousy (and greys too)and I color it red with highlights (natural looking ones not the chunky variety)Now the red fades to blondish cuz it just does so whenever I get my roots done is is extremely noticable...he has never said anything ever...Yesterday he asked me "so do you just go from blonde to red to blonde to red?"and I explained how I don't purposely go blonde it just fades that way. Now I have no idea if it means a dang thing. But it is the first time he has ever asked anything about it but it also tells me he does notice... but he has never said anything. just one of those funny kinda things and he had used that to inititate some conversation with me as I was just finishing checking out the ambulance and busy doing my thing.
So continually being aptient and persistant...like you all have said

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posted April 19, 2006 05:30 PM              

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celticfyre
Perfect!
Cancerian males often start out with small talk, and noticing and pointing out little things they noticed about something!
I feel this is a very promising thing!
If he acts crabby at you sometimes, just act nice and calm. Odds are he is just crabby, and it has nothing to do with you.
Cancerians pinch and bite most everyone around them when they are in a Cancerian snit or funk.
Do not take it personal.
He is trying to get near you, hesitantly and cautious, but this is very good thing I feel!

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~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted April 19, 2006 06:45 PM              

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Thanks Fayte,

I wish I new more of this type of thing before...perhaps I did but it didn't register the same I suppose. BTW do you know or if any of you other Crabs out there how many of you like Seafood? or do you hate it? Mine doesn't care for it at all...I grew up around seafood in fact as close as I am now to the Chesapeake bay I have yet to find a decent place to get seafood. just a curious thought. Anyway lots of love to you all. Will keep you posted in this gentle persistant effort.

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posted April 21, 2006 08:30 AM            

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I think its a good sign ! and by telling you that , he was trying to show he is caring and noticing and that in a way means he feels closer to you .
i do it . infact, i did it just a few days back .
other thing, this actually shows subtility . and cancers by nature believe in subtility .

and yeah , i love fish and all . infact hot rice with fish curry is one of my fav. food .

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posted April 21, 2006 11:09 AM              

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celticfyre
Thank you!
And I agree with you cancerrg

Seafood....
Mine loves it with rice like you cancerrg!
But he loves calamari, shrimp and Tilalpia the best. He likes most seafood except sardines, and anchovies.
Now me...I love any and all seafood! Even the raw stuff.

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The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted April 22, 2006 01:32 AM              

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oh well, I guess mine might be the exception...maybe unconciously he sees it akin to cannabalism..lol. Yeah and he is doing more of the drawing in kinda stuff, too. he made it a point to show me a picture that his older daughter put on a book of hers that showed her at about12 months old and him holding her with his fire helmet on and pointing out that the one he was wearing was the one he melted which was over on a shelf nearby...and he has been pretty playful and fun tonite...so we will see.

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