posted August 28, 2005 10:47 AM         

I agree..
quote:
Experience is the Teacher of the Ages

However..age does not mean a person has become wise....or had experience...alot of folks live under rocks or are experts at avoiding life.

posted August 28, 2005 11:37 AM         

SO, even if the couple stayed together for the physical side of life, they would be getting a lot out of the relationship, whereas the other way around..........do you get my drift guys..........and no offence to anyone with an older man.........just my observations.

Personally I have such a young spirit and outlook that I prefer younger men, most of the men I know of my own age, dont really do it for me..........thats just me.............sexy Scorpio and all that........

......Fayte???

Love to all

posted August 28, 2005 11:40 AM         

However, I can not neglect my trade-mark, but...

If age is of such little import, why I wonder do you feel it necessary to carefully detail all your partners?
Maybe a hidden pride that they should all "seek you out"?

'nuff said.
You are all a beautiful boquet of flowers, and it has been great fun finding the prickles hidden amongst the roses.

It seems that even those who believe themselves to be free spirits and dancing earth angels still have dogmatic viewpoints and fixed paradigms for safety.

Life is a paradox simply because the human mind needs one to justify itself.

posted August 28, 2005 11:55 AM         

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posted August 28, 2005 12:25 PM         

And you forget the generation "thing".

These women have had a live of male manipulation, housebound, and child rearing without the modern freedoms now enjoyed by the newly liberated woman.

In the main their minds are as closed and sterile as their life has been.
Their existence is cloistered and social activity is done in protective groups like battery hens.

When I visit the big city ofcourse I see the parade of the newly liberated, eager to prove their liberation with one night stands, male domination, in fear of commitment; because they fear becomming like their mum.

Try being a sensitive, caring and understanding being who is continually shouted at and abused by passing teenage girls without any provocation !

Twice recently I have only just avoided being run down by young girls in cars who actually mounted the pavement (both times)to see if I could jump out of the way quick enough.

I could say, "Yes my child I may look like an old fart, but what's the point in trying to tell you who lives inside this thing?"

I know this is a fun Forum, But sometimes frustration hurts.

posted August 28, 2005 01:04 PM         

My father had a similar experience with a young boy trying to knock him over on a pavement. My dad is 78 and walks with a stick....he said to me "I had to stop myself from knocking the little bugger's block off"......... I understand in a way where you come from friend.........you see my Dad is one of my best friends.........there is no gap between us, age or other, we talk freely........he was always one of my strongest role models, big ego, which in time has relaxed and with a heart of gold.

Some of the coolest people here in Eire are the age of 60, they still got it going on as far as I am concerned.........one guy aged 84 tried to hit on me the other day.......when I looked in his eyes, I could see a young vibrant man there.....he couldve charmed the ducks off the water!!!

As for those stupid little air heads, just one stare from you and they could V A N I S H........

Keep posting P, keep venting, my dad has only just started to "open up" to me and my oh my it feels so good, he is so COOL

Love to you

posted August 28, 2005 03:19 PM         

HHHUUUUUH?????
I was trying to make a point! Old..young...no problem!

Heh heh....you think that is all the partners
I have had?....Or details?
That is too funny to even go into...
And if they..the older ones wanted to seek me out...
Well they are almost all DEAD now!
And the ones that are not are happily married
now....or have become good friends.

And one is my husband...and he is not a toy!

Hey sue! Thank you!

posted August 28, 2005 08:04 PM         

However .... I can't help but notice that you seem to be expressing a wee bit of that dreaded and all-pervasive unhappiness you mentioned in another thread.

quote:

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Consider where you are at this moment. Now!
And remember; You got here by all your previous efforts.
You, your situation, your problems, your benefits... are all the result of what you have done, thought, believed, and perceived IN THE PAST.

---

I don't suppose those are your thoughts while scrambling over to the safe side of the pavement?

Easier said than done, ain't it?

posted August 28, 2005 10:06 PM         

Many people, unfortunately, are uncomfortable around disabled people, and even just plain old people, and at the bottom of it, most of the time, is fear of being fragile like that one day. I assure you, that is not how I am raising my children! -- (The acts of violence that happened to you two are in an all together different category -- I am just speechless at such cruelty!)

What you are writing about makes me realize that some of the things I agonize over are silly trifles, comparatively speaking.

I wish you good friendships, and lots of laughter, and tenderness, and, well, whatever it is that you desire that you feel strongly about and ought to have, at any age...

posted August 29, 2005 02:28 AM         

There are times when loneliness overtakes and makes one feel like "it just ain't fair".

And then self-pity is followed by remorse and embarrasement at the rememberence of others with far greater problems.

Because really I do not have any other problems:
- Perfect health thanks to years of teaching T'ai-Chi.
- Adequate funds for a gentle lifestyle.
- The Freedom to do whatever I want.
- A comfortable caravan near the beach for summer, and a secure small town home for winter.
- An awareness of thinks greater and more beautiful than most people will ever understand !!

Which really only emphasises the big question .......?

Why is there nobody to share it with?
Nobody to talk over the day's events?
Nobody to share a massage on a beautiful evening?
And nobody to snuggle in bed?

I have often thought of finding a toyboy for myself, LOL. but... I hate football, cricket et al. And do not drink which makes social activity very difficult in Australia.

My visit to "Soul Unions" has been an education. It emphasises my difficulties in responding to people I do not know.

Forgive my flippant banter Fayte, et al..
Obviously too many hide their true life behind casual conversation. And sometimes it is wrong to dig.

I would love to wind you all up. In the true sense. To provide energy for movement and activity. But I must remember that non of you are just toys. (That name is obviously reserved for boys. LOL).

posted August 29, 2005 11:10 AM         

>>>ok...I have been there too. But I have always been either very poor...living on the streets...or struggling(as now) to stay away from the edge of poverty. The past 3 years We have been holding our own. Barely...but we are.
You have the means to live comfortably and well. You are most fortunate to be fit of body even though not young.
Well...when I say I have been there..as per your questions...
I mean that those are questions I too have asked myself in my times like that.
I will not go on about my answers...but you may want to do as I did...sit down and write those questions out...ask yourself privately...what are the answers? Be brutally honest with yourself. Some answers may surprise you...some please...some not.
But it worked for me. Perhaps it might work for you.
Feel free to e-mail me if you want to talk personal stuff. I am a good secret keeper.
Take care
Love
Faye

posted August 29, 2005 01:16 PM         

You are one hell of a woman, did you know that.......your story is amazing, just like you!!!!

Now you are not gonna suggest I go after that 84 year old and.................LOL

Love to you

posted August 29, 2005 01:31 PM         

another big point I see is what sexual represion, and Rabidly dogmatic views had once [still doing to some] emotionaly done to so many in our culture.