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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake

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From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004

posted March 24, 2006 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Pidua!

I understand perfectly.
You expressed yourself quite well.
And I have great respect for your position.
I do believe that you have untold depths,
and rare treasures, made all the more valuable
for the careful preservation of their contents.

The hundered poems in your head,
reminded me of these song lyrics:

"Little birds born without a mother or a father
I can watch their bodies forming in the running water
Now there is another in the middle of my mouth
100 all together within me now
Little bird little bird, come into my body.

"Mother they're within me every moment I'm awaking
Bodies multiplying till they finally overtake me
Open up my mouth but all you'll ever hear is singing
Put your hands within me and you'll know what I am feeling
I just want to swallow up and promise to protect them."

~ Jeff Mangum


Love to You,
Stephen

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pidaua
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posted March 27, 2006 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Stephen,

That was beautiful... I almost missed it but knew there was a thread I had forgotten to check.

Thanks for the compliments. We all need people like you to bring out what people like me hold back. You write so well (blood and bones wasn't supposed to be a dig. I admire people that can do that).

Shawnee

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 27, 2006 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Pidua!
Very kind of you.

Lots of love,
Stephen

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Iqhunk
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posted March 31, 2006 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Hi MNF,
I know of an interesting way to attract a soulmate/caring person into your life. It also makes those in love stay in love.
The way is to attempt to unite two other people in love or patch up an angry couple.
It does not matter whther the attempt works or not, the intention, action and satisfaction of doing so is the key.

90% of freshly broken relationships can be fixed by the good intentions of a third party. Try this and see for yourself. Maybe when you are a bit older if not now, but never forget this method.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted April 04, 2006 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message
Iqhunk- So you're saying by doing the good deed of trying to help two people, it will cosmically attract love for yourself or something?
Interesting theory, although personally i have always found the act of sticking your oar in a little discomforting myself as it seems a little nosey, often has nothing to do with you and can make things worse. However, i've never tried- so, who knows?

Unfortunately, recently I've been more of a protagonist to the couple I know the most. It doesn't help really when we live under the same roof though and one of them isn't my parent, although I love them both dearly.
Any tips?

Glad lots of people have posted on this! I'm astonished really.

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Iqhunk
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posted April 05, 2006 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Cupid does not seek anyone's permission to shoot arrows. All is fair in love and war.
However, the action gets highest merit only if the girl confides to you that she loves the guy or vice versa.

Your case is a good experimental lab for you to start. So your mom and her bf are not getting on too well? Can you type a small love letter on your mom's behalf and leave it where only he can find it?

Then be guilty as charged when caught and tell the truth that you love them both dearly and want them to stay happy forever?

I cant say it will work 100% but the selfless action sets up a loop of love for all involved people.

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sue g
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posted April 05, 2006 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
A part of my work is to help women with their marriages/relationships.....I use tarot and prayer as tools.

As for my own relationship......it has been very happy, then very sad, then very challenging, very exciting, very mundale, very frustrating, very joyful, warm, cold, indifferent......etc etc etc......it has encompassed everything !!!

Together for 17 years and so far faithful to each other....it has been a huge roller coaster ride.....he has moved me to tears more than any other and now he is moved to tears himself......and it is only at this point of complete openness and honesty that I realise what a very strong marrige it is.

I don wanna sound old fashioned, but it is so comforting to know that we have been true to each other, no others involved. I aint saying that wont change....maybe somewhere along the lines it will and either or both of us shall feel the need to share our love, but so far, I or he havent been there. There is a pureness between us....

Happy.....not always.....I always suspect people that overclaim they are happy?

Love....?? Oh yes.....but not always in the ways we want it.....

Challenging....YES.....

But most of all pure and total HONESTY !!!

For me the biggest lesson has been to learn to let go and stop being possessive.....that in itself can destroy a relationship....he tells me that I have been the easiest and most enjoyable to live with in the last few months....!!

Long may it last !!!

xxx

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Focused Chi
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posted April 05, 2006 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Focused Chi     Edit/Delete Message
There was an interesting sudy done at John Hopkins Universtity a few years ago. Due to the divorce rate in the USA being near 50% they tried to identify key points in succsessful/unsucccsessful relationships.

Im going off of memory here, but there were many couples involved in the study which lasted a few years. In the end the only identifiable point between the two groups was how they handled conflct. All participants had regular conflicts.

The end result of the study was 50% of the couples relationships ended or were about to end.

The succsessful couples when faced with conflict did not attack, counter attack eachother on a personal level. They would get angry but the conflict never evolved into personal insults. They would work toward understanding eachother and resolution. There was always a level of respect being shown regardless of how angry they were.

What fascinated me was at the end of the study all of the participants were asked to make a list of the issues they had conflict with in the order of most frequent.

Almost every couple succsessful/unsuccsessful turned in the same lists. I think the lists were over 90% identical.

The list of conflict points were as follows, in order of most frequent.

1. Money
2. Sex
3. Family
4. Friends
5. Free time


Regards,

Focused Chi


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"Your life is what your thoughts make it."
~Marcus Aurelius

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted April 07, 2006 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message
"you type a small love letter on your mom's behalf and leave it where only he can find it?"

No! That's meddling!! Haha and pretty cutesy- kid-like don't you think? Like, "Oops, I'm so dumb an' cute I didn't know real relationships aren't like that and that it would be obvious it's not from the person it's supposedly from!"
Sorry Iq, my sarky nature gets the better of me sometimes. Things are okay right now anyway, but I'll think about talking to them in the future to see if I can help.

Sue, Focused Chi, ta for the posts.

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sue g
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posted April 08, 2006 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
You are welcome girl.......

xxx

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sue g
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posted April 09, 2006 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I have taken a different stance on the "soul mate" thing, especially after being a part of LL.....

Was under the huge misconception for quite a long time that this meant blissfully happy unions....

Errrrr....and then I woke up!!!

My husband and I have brought each other so many challenges, especially over the last 2 years (at one point he wasnt even sure if he could live with me anymore).

And now.....he and I have learned to honour the differences, to allow freedom and honesty.....to admit that at times we have felt hate and intense love for each other.

He is the one that has brought me the most learning, the most tears, the most laughter and love.....

Soul Mates........bloody hard work......but worth it for sure !!!

love
xxx

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Iqhunk
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posted April 10, 2006 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
<<Sorry Iq, my sarky nature gets the better of me sometimes. Things are okay right now anyway, but I'll think about talking to them in the future to see if I can help.>>

The intention to help itself is sufficient and will work wonders.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted April 10, 2006 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message
Sue, yes! I obviously haven't had a relationship but I agree with your take on the whole soul mate thing. My mum and her boyfriend are like that... very intense!! Well, there is a lot of Scorpio flying between them But yes, I can see the extreme emotions and feelings they share, real love, hate, devotion, jealousy etc etc but ultimately, they have something pretty strong.
Speaking of intense, my mum has quite a bit of Scorp and a Pisces Ascendant and last night all the lights in the house were flickering and getting little power cuts cos she was so distressed. That was eerie.

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Kat
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posted May 01, 2006 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Answer:
I don't know

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sue g
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posted May 02, 2006 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Kat....

Bless you......

On day girl, one day......

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