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Topic: Venus Square Pluto- synastry
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CyraX007 Newflake Posts: 6 From: ma, boston, usa Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 04:42 AM
Do you really want to believe in the karmic tie soulmates thing? I mean I'm just begining to look this stuff up because i'm not sure if I should get back with my ex since the relationship is/was twisted. We have a pluto conjunct venus so I looked it up and it sounds pretty good but then I also had the pluto square venus, which was not positive. I figure I look up another conjunct, Saturn and Neptune which is supposedly a soulmate thing except it was also really negative- it said one of us died in a horrible death in a past life and the death happened because of our love. I've decided to stop looking it up after that one, haha - I mean I thought soulmates was suppose to be something good but this thing can turn it into a horror movie. As for the relationship... we're both pretty good people without each other. We're considerate, charming, people love us but when we were together, we got evil. We used other people to make eachother jealous and in the process, we hurt whoever we used since they thought we were genuine. we feel guilty and we lost a lot of friends yet. 6 months after the break up, we're tempted to repeat it all. I think it's because the sex was hot as all hell. IP: Logged |
jacque Knowflake Posts: 286 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 09, 2011 03:04 PM
what would it be like if you had this aspect with a relative?IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 09, 2011 07:02 PM
Okay since this is a generation aspect and pluto moves sooo slow, I would say the orbs would have to be 1.5 MAX.Cos having venus conjunct pluto ain't like OMFG since if you had a venus in scorp, it'd conjunct mine, but having the orb be like 1.5 max then it's harder and rarer. IP: Logged |
Steam Knowflake Posts: 74 From: US Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 09, 2011 10:40 PM
I've been the Pluto in many relationships aspecting the other's sun, moon, venus.Sometimes there was a mutual obsession if there were other aspects to support it like sun/moon/venus. Yet most times, it seemed like I was the 'teacher'. I was different from all the other women before. Made demands on what I wanted from him which made him confront his desires. Pluto is also in my 7th house so I need an intense relationship & tend to demand more from a prospective mate. It's interesting to see how Pluto plays out; either being the obsessed one or the object. I believe looking at the natal charts will fill in the blanks. If the pluto person aspecting your personal planets does not have pluto prevalent in their chart then it won't affect them so much. Pluto in my 7th house with it's aspects to my personal planets & the aspects to my partner (especially if Pluto aspects his chart heavily) increases the intensity. I'd say look in your partner's natal chart & see which personal planet is aspected the most. Especially conjunctions. Then see where & how it's aspected with yours. Pluto may or may not play an important role. IP: Logged |
curiouswoman Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: on earth Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 10:58 PM
LMFAO! " Just to prove how obsessive this aspect can be...I have posted 4 other questions in some way related to this relationship on this site in the past week...about several other factors..including His NN conjunct my venus and saturn in his fourth house. Crazy!!************************ I feel you on the obsession part i am the venus in this case. but I want to know if he is as well. can a pluto person PLEASE tell us Cancer Sun/ Pisces Moon ARIES RISING[/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged |
Alma Sun Moderator Posts: 2225 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 11, 2011 10:35 AM
I think Pluto might be intrigued by the other person, doesn't mean a thing if the rest of the synastry is off though. Now, I had the sextile before, me being the Venus. And honestly he's the only man I ever really loved. As far as him having 'more' power over me because of the age difference and the fact that he's the Pluto.. well I didn't feel like that at all. Maybe because it was a sextile and our other synastry overpowered it. ------------------ "I am not absentminded. It is the presence of mind that makes me unaware of everything else." ― G.K. Chesterton IP: Logged |
starrgurl Newflake Posts: 1 From: peterborough,ontario,canada Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 18, 2011 06:36 PM
Currently I have this aspect (venus square pluto) with two different people. The first (we'll call him HP) is with someone i have become friends with ..he is the venus i am the pluto. The second (we'll call him drew) he is Pluto, I am Venus. It is overwhelming to say the least. In both situations we have other aspects that create passion as well, but the venus pluto square seems to be the consistent aspect. When I am the pluto in the relationship, I feel I have more power....its like I just 'know' this guy is there for me and wants to be with me (ironic since he and I have never been intimate) and I am HUGELY attracted to him. As the venus I feel more powerless, like I can't (more like I don't want to...lol) say no to whatever he asks. Pluto 'Drew' was definitely the aggressive pursuer in our relationship or we would have never slept together...as i am 18 yrs older. In both situations, obsession is the same for me. I just prefer to be logical about the whole thing so things don't go overboard....so to speak IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8139 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 05, 2012 12:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by GypseeWind: Whewwww. His venus squares my pluto, and my venus sextiles his pluto.3 years, I can't leave it alone. I can go for awhile, but not indefinetly. Yep to the sex thing. Yep to the obsession. Sometimes I wish I never met this person. Sometimes I love him so much I could just eat him up. That's the way it goes. I'm wondering if I'll (we'll) grow out of it or not. lol. Doubtful.
I had this with a guy. We had those exact same aspects in a DW. Yet, I was exactly in the role of your guy. I was the venus in the square, and the pluto in the sextile. And let me tell you, i feel the same as you do. I still feel like I couldnt possibly live without him, and it's very hard.
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RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8139 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 05, 2012 12:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by GypseeWind: Whewwww. His venus squares my pluto, and my venus sextiles his pluto.3 years, I can't leave it alone. I can go for awhile, but not indefinetly. Yep to the sex thing. Yep to the obsession. Sometimes I wish I never met this person. Sometimes I love him so much I could just eat him up. That's the way it goes. I'm wondering if I'll (we'll) grow out of it or not. lol. Doubtful.
I had this with a guy. We had those exact same aspects in a DW. Yet, I was exactly in the role of your guy. I was the venus in the square, and the pluto in the sextile. And let me tell you, i feel the same as you do. I still feel like I couldnt possibly live without him, and it's very hard to not cry every day.
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foxxyxo Knowflake Posts: 374 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted February 27, 2013 05:30 AM
augentier.....i have those two same aspects in my synastry w/ my guy too!!! why is it hell for u?? i love it IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Moderator Posts: 7445 From: Brooklyn, New York Registered: May 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 09:15 PM
This is true with me and father of my kids, except for the financial part. He freely gives me money, but I also gave him, but I'm usually generous with that with family.His Venus in 4th Aquarius squares my Pluto in Scorpio 8th house by 2 dg. He said this is what he hates the most about me -- my jealous rage and possessiveness, but he gave me a reason to feel that way. It's not like I did it for no apparent reason =/. My Pluto is also conjunct his ascendant. quote: Originally posted by lllog: Your Venus Square his Pluto – indicates a very strong sexual attraction between the two of you. The motivation behind the relationship is primarily based on sexual desire, not romantic feelings, therefore, sexual jealousy and possessiveness can create problems in your relationship. He will try to control and dominate you emotionally and in some cases, take financial advantage of you. You may consider him jealous, overly aggressive, sexually demanding, superficial, and self-indulgent. What houses Venus and Pluto in, and what is the arc between them. Lanny
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Ltownboogie Knowflake Posts: 104 From: USA Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 14, 2013 04:13 PM
I currently have this aspect with the guy that I am seeing. I am the Venus and he is the pluto, HOWEVER, MY pluto aspects 7 of HIS planets. we have a total of 10 pluto aspects.... The intensity and obsession is definitely mutual in our case.IP: Logged |
poochycat Knowflake Posts: 958 From: Vancouver, Canada Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 24, 2013 05:20 PM
Yes I have this connection with a MARRIED man I have known for six years through our work. (Pluto (me) conjunct his venus and mars. Both venus and mars in Leo are in his 5th house. He is a cancer and I'm a taurus. Fireworks to say the least! I am actually thinking of quitting my job because of the intensity because an affair is out of the question.IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl Knowflake Posts: 862 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 06:43 PM
I didn't realize it but I have quite a few pluto aspects with someone at workWe have the venus square pluto but also my pluto squares his mars and sun. I think the only redeeming one is mars sextile pluto. Who's the obsessed one in this? I have more pluto than him but I think its mutual obsession.
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OrientalApples Knowflake Posts: 63 From: USA Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 27, 2014 12:53 PM
I have this with my love too. The obsession and possessiveness and jealousy is there, but I'm not sure why it is but we have great restraint with this. I sense it in him and he senses it in me, what I mean is that there are many cues that I can pick up on in communication, but none of this will come up outright. Most of it just plays out in our heads, I feel. He doesn't restrict me or my movement and I don't with him either especially when it comes to work, family or friends, however, though despite this we spend nearly everyday with each other so much so that often we need to both come up for air--our friends complain we don't allocate our time with others as well as we should. I don't find it suffocating, I find it binding. But we are magnets for each other, definitely. And it has built up over the last two years. Going on three. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6044 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted March 04, 2014 05:56 PM
Wow, I can't believe I replied to this thread 3 years ago. After 6 years that relationship ended, and all I can say about that is, Pluto/Venus relationships do not end nicely! I'm serious, it was like having my teeth pulled without novacaine, and it took months to get completely apart. Very hard and very sad. Apparently I haven't learned my lesson because the person I am talking to now has his Venus trine my Pluto and my Venus squares his Pluto.
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Mystic Melody Moderator Posts: 704 From: IL Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 05, 2014 03:43 PM
Linda always said to go for the highest vibration of the energy. Maybe that is key but I know that is easier said than done for sure. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6044 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted March 08, 2014 02:43 PM
And I surely can respect Linda's opinion.I have been doing a lot of soul searching and excavating since this breakup. I've sat and thought about what relationships had the most impact on me, and who those people were. Then I tried to find them or at least details about them so I can make a chart for them. Any of the ones that are really memorable (to ME) and seemed to "stick" were Pluto themed. I've dumped many a lovely Cancer (and that is true, I had a ton of Cancer boyfriends in high school and early adulthood) because I didn't feel the same intensity from them as they reportedly felt from me. It's one of those things you juggle in your mind... "should I even bother, can I go through this again, why don't I just *try* another kind of relationship, oh screw it, I don't need a man, wait, I can handle this, hey this is just me, this is who I am...." and blah blah blah. I haz no answers today. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6044 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted March 09, 2014 12:06 PM
I found this written by Sorcha in 2012. She says it much better than I ever could.Whenever you have a Venus/Pluto aspect natally and you date (or marry) people in your general age range, your Venus is going to make that same aspect to everyone's Pluto (meaning everyone born within a certain amount of years before or after you). That being the case, I would say that it's a theme in your life unless you end up dating someone a fair bit older or younger I have (Sun and) Venus square Pluto natally and I can definitely relate to most of what has been written here. What I've found after many years of experiencing it, working on it, being frustrated by it, etc. etc. is that when it comes to the internal issues of control (feeling either in control or out of control) and power (feeling that you have it or that you don't have it) it boils down to you (and me ) All the worry and the fear equates to giving your power away, if that makes sense. It means someone else's feelings, or your perceptions of their feelings, are controlling you. In essence, your fears are controlling you and have power over you. It's often not about the other person at all, they are just the trigger. If the other person also has a Venus/Pluto aspect natally then it's an opportunity to grow for both people. In this case you are the trigger and the receiver. In my case, my first two boyfriends (#1 was for 3 years and #2 was for 6.5 years) had soft Venus/Pluto aspects. BF #1 had the sextile and BF #2 had the trine. So I learned from them what the aspect felt like when it was soft and harmonious. All my subsequent relationships were with men who have the hard aspect >>> two men who had Venus conjunct Pluto and my last boyfriend had Venus opposite Pluto. So I've been around Pluto's block more than a few times and gotten to experience pretty much all the aspects, as well as how they felt with my own Venus. Generally speaking, I am more attracted to the hard aspect which tells me that there is healing to be done in that area of my life. In a nutshell, working on your issues of power, control and fear to create rather than destroy is how I try to look at it. Pluto wants to destroy and deconstruct so putting those energies to work in regards to things which actually *need* to be dismantled is a healthier use for all that powerful energy. Destroying old worn-out beliefs, sexual hang-ups, romantic ideals which no longer serve you, etc. is a good way to use the powerful Venus/Pluto energy as a tool and own it instead of allowing it to own you. This is just my experience and my opinion, but I do understand how powerful this aspect can be in a person's life and really, it's all in how you direct it. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215369.html IP: Logged |
LuckyStar Knowflake Posts: 184 From: Elysian Fields Registered: Oct 2013
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posted March 17, 2014 02:36 PM
Thank you GypseeWind that was very informative. I have a friend we have a venus trine pluto (1 degree orb) and venus (mine) square pluto 5 degree orb. Also venus mars opposition double whammy both 1 degree orb. I once adored this man, now I hate him, this is not normal for me. I accept and love most people or just indifferent. I cannot understand what this could be teaching me. Any wisdom from your experience would be helpful.IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 2622 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 24, 2014 01:25 AM
Venus sesquisquare Pluto is just as bad and for somebody who was dragging his feet on marriage, it was annoying. I'd be taking to a friend from high school on AIM and he'd be crying in jealousy. I currently have this in the composite. Not nearly as bad unless he hasn't expressed it. I don't feel too jealous. Maybe a bit possessive, but that's me. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6044 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted October 25, 2014 01:49 PM
Luckystar, I have had my moments of hating this person too. But then it flips back into loving him, and I realize that I never truly TRULY hated him at all. There is a theme for me in my pluto relationships that.... they can push my buttons and make me so gosh darned explosively mad, but yet I feel they know me at a deeper level (and they get me- whether or not they agree with my crazy ways is another story- but they understand).IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 45884 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2014 02:01 PM
Moving this to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |