posted July 18, 2007 10:06 PM         

I may have misunderstood you though. h13 stands for true BML, which isn't the BML in the box (that's mean BML). True BML is minding its own business in our Davison (although it does make contact in synastry--mine conjuncts his Vertex, his conjuncts my Juno). Here's a thread about the different Liliths. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012739.html
Peri wrote something I found particularly interesting:
"In my opinion, BML represents the subconscious part of our mind or the Unknown, it's a highly individual point in the chart, it is something that makes us different from others. BML also represents our anima/animus figure which is very interesting when it comes to synastry charts comparison. A relationship under the influence of BML may grow into a dangerous liaison, into a painful, intense, obsessive or strange love affair."

posted July 19, 2007 04:26 AM           

If that is BML then that's the one I mean... sorry if I confused you

*edit - the transits you describe are encouraging me to look into this further, they almost mirror the transits I experienced, Venus, 5th hse cusp, Vertex etc... wow!

posted July 20, 2007 12:50 AM         

With my bf, something's caught my eye involving the Nodes in our relationship charts and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to interpret it. First thing, our Nodes are along the same axis in both of our natal charts and in our Composite and Davison.

Second thing, in both of our relationship charts, the Sun conjuncts the S.Node.

posted July 20, 2007 02:54 AM         

--The relationship's duty/purpose in both charts involves 8th house issues. (Sun-SN conjunction; sun rules 8th house.)

posted July 20, 2007 10:46 AM           

You´ve handled it well on the interpretations!

In general it seems that you both are 2 journey companions where one another helps each other grow spiritualy and evolve as individuals.

The fact that youve talked about Davidson made me look up to ours and i found a strange aspect,which i dont know if its normal or not.

I chose the Uncorrected Davidson,and then the corrected and the Nodes still have the same degrees.
Then, i went looking to the Nodes of the Composite.

The thing is that both Mean Node and True Node of the Composite and Davidson are almost exact:

Davidson:
Mean Node:29º57´14
True Node:0º5´36

Composite:
Mean Node 29º57´13
True Node 0º36´53´

posted July 20, 2007 11:44 PM         

That's so weird! You wouldn't think the degrees would be so similar since the two charts are constructed by different methods. Now I wanna know if other people have this too.

Yours is especially noteworthy b/c of the pivotal degrees involved--29 & 0. What sign is the N.Node in?

posted July 21, 2007 05:19 AM           

Well,maybe its normaal who knows? But its strange definatelly!

The nodes are in 29ºGem and 0º Cancer.

Talking about the aspects between chrts found these in particular since Izo´s book talk about 10º , i took the liberty on using till that :P)

Mean Node D. widely conjunct my NN/P.F.(8ª),conj N.Isis (1)
Mean Node D. conjunct John´s 12thCusp(1);John´s Draco Sun(3º)

Mean Node D. conjuncts Draco Composite Sun(8º)

Mean Node D. oposes my Marriage Woman2 ( 6),Neptune(3),my Draco Amor(6º)
Mean Node D. oposes Johns´6thCusp(2);John´s Juno(1),Spirit/Nep(5);John´s Draco Aphrodite(6º)

True Node D. conjunct exactly 11thCusp Davidson

True Node D. conj widely John´s NN(8), conjunct Johns POM(2º),Johns Draco Syche/Merc(2º), Draco Anteros(0º)
True Node D. widely conj my MCcusp(6), my Eros(11)

True Node D. oposes John´s Osiris(4);Isis(6),Eros(0º)
True Node D. oposes my IC/Pallas(&),
True Node D. oposes Davidsons Vertex(4)/Lilith(0ª)

True Node D. conjuncts Composit Draco Venus(6º), Mars(8º),DNA(1º),
True Node D. oposes Composit Draco Moon(5º), Isis(2º)

Mean Node D. conjunct Composite´s Karma ( 4º)
Mean Node D. oposes Composit Neptune( 3)
True Node D. conjuncts 11thCuspComposite(0º)/Davidsoms(2º);widely conjuncts Valentine´s Composite (12º)
True Node D. oposes Composites(0º)/Davidsons(2º) 5thCusp
True Node D. oposes Composite Ceres(9),Siva(6)

South Node D/C is 0 º Cap .
SN conjucnts Davidson´s/Composites 5thCusp(0º)

Founnd also that in Davidson and Composite, both 5thCusp were nly apart by 2ºorb( is it another coincidence)?

Kiss

posted July 24, 2007 08:42 AM           

Mister's NN trine my Jupiter
Mister's NN quincunxes my Venus and Neptune
as well as oppositions my Pluto

And mine quincunxes his Asc

posted July 29, 2007 06:58 PM         

Composite:

Mean Node: Sagg 15'14 (8th House)
True Node: Sagg 15'40

Davision:

Mean Node: Sagg 15'14 (2nd House)
True Node: Sagg 16'14

I guess either way our direction is (oops ~ was)Saggitarian. Very interesting.

posted July 29, 2007 11:06 PM           

Me & my new guy(the Gemini) have this.I always wondered if it would be pulling us both forward or backwards,since it involves his Nodal Axis being on my Asc/Desc. Axis.I guess maybe we have past life Karma to work out,and it will continue in the next life as well...but I'm not to fond of "giving much more than I receive"!That sounds kinda depressing.

**Placements:
His NN(Sag 19) conj my Desc.(Sag 18)
His SN(Gem 19) conj my Asc.(Gem 18)
His SN(Gem 19) conj my Mercury(Gem 16)

posted July 30, 2007 04:02 AM         

MoonDreamer - I think the benefits of that aspect far outweigh any negatives. It sounds wonderful! And, if you're anything like me, I'm sure you've read descriptions that don't completely match the way your relationships actually work. A single aspect can't take into account other influences in the chart, and different people will manifest an aspect in a more positive way. So even if it says that you will give much more, perhaps that just means that you will feel the need to be very accepting and understanding of your Gemini, little things won't make you walk away from the relationship.

posted July 30, 2007 01:38 PM         

Ah...let's see.

Composite Sun is Virgo 5'46 (5th House)
Davision Sun is Virgo 4'56 (11th House)

Also, I noticed some other interesting inversions. The IC and MC in both charts are at 0'43 degrees but are reversed. The Comp IC is in Leo and the Davison IC is in Aqua. The Comp MC is in Aqua and the Davision IC is in Leo.

The Comp Moon conjuncts Saturn in Cancer (3rd H) but in the Davison The Moon is in the same degree, but in Capricorn (3rd H), opposing Saturn in Cancer (9th).

Also, in the Davison, my ex's name asteroid conjuncts Isis in Cancer and my name asteroid conjuncts Osiris in Scorpio. All are in the 1st H except for Osiris in the 2nd.

What do you make of that? I'm finding the Davison charts really interesting but I have yet to get a full handle on how these differences are meaninful. And yet I can tell they are...

posted July 31, 2007 05:18 AM         

I wrote one thing down incorrectly. I thought I edited it, but I guess not. That's what you get for analyzing your relationship with your ex in the middle of the night.

I should have written "Also, in the Davison, my ex's name asteroid conjuncts Isis in SCORPIO and my name asteroid conjuncts Osiris in Scorpio AS WELL. All are in the 1st H except for Osiris in the 2nd." And the fact that Osiris is in the house of values makes sense too, I think.

So, yeah, it's all happening in Scorpio. But it's still kind of interesting, no? After all, he and Isis are conjuncting his natal Sun and my natal NN and me and Osiris are conjuncting my natal Vertex and his natal Karma. Personally, I've always felt as though if I had to switch teams, I'd definitely bat for The Scorps.

And thanks for your interpretation J. Very much appreciated

In a related matter, the ex drove an hour and a half to my house and left me a rose on my doorstep in the middle of the night Friday. Unbelievable.

posted July 31, 2007 10:05 AM           

Me and my bf has a Juno-SN wide conjunction(7º) i dont know if its acceptable but...

in Izo´s text said that we were married in other life but it didnt evolved very well and that the JUno person(him) owns the karmic debt,and has to be more flexible and tolerant in terms of the house wich is in.So, his Juno is in his 6th,falling on my 3rd house,conjucnting my Neptune.

So,in what terms does that "more tolerant and flexibility " must appear?

posted August 03, 2007 01:45 AM         

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But it's still kind of interesting, no?

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Nope. You lost me.

Yes, it's still very interesting! So the Davison's Isis and your ex (Name AND his natal Sun!) are on your NN, and the Davison's Osiris and you are on his Karma. That sounds very significant. It's a double whammy, in a way, involving fate/lifepath and marriage partner. Maybe you two aren't over? I'm ambivalent about saying that b/c I don't want to make you start thinking that way if you've already made your peace w/ the relationship being over, but from your synastry and his actions on Friday, it seems like the two of you share a very deep connection and love for one another.

Diandra - I'm not sure what the answer is but I'd be interested in knowing too! Which house should we look at? The one where he has his Juno natally, or where his Juno overlays your chart? Perhaps both?
The 6th is the house of work, health, and service. 6th house work is done out of necessity or in support of larger goals we enjoy.
So if this is where his Juno (committed marriage partner) self needs to improve, then he needs to do the marriage tasks that seem like "work"; the daily chores that keep a relationship running smoothly. He may not get joy out of these chores, but they are the necessary parts of something he does enjoy--his relationship with you.
Since it falls in your third house--house of communication, understanding, and education--then that could further focus what he owes: he needs to communicate with you. Not just communication that's fun for its own sake, but all the necessary daily talk that ensures there are no misunderstandings. This communication will keep your relationship healthy. Also, since it's conjunct your Neptune--planet of illusion--that focuses his Juno's work even further: he must communicate directly to help rid you of any confusion or misunderstandings.

posted August 03, 2007 05:25 PM         

Her NN conjunct my DC 7 degrees

My NN conjunct her Moon 2 degrees
My SN conjunct her Venus 7 degrees

My NN and her Asc both in Cancer at 16 degrees distance.

posted August 04, 2007 03:49 AM         

Well, I appreciate your words. To be honest, I wanted to marry him. Or at least live with him and make babies. And I would have settled for just being his girlfriend until I eventually perished. Ah, the drama.

Not to highjack a thread here, but after he left me the rose I ended up at his house for 48 hours and the short of the long is that he cannot be with me since while we are together life feels perfect for him and he's never felt this way about anyone...but when we are apart it feels to him as though he is "late" for something and it's time for him to go.

I can only assume that means that his SN, which conjuncts my name asteroid in my chart, is telling him we're in the past and his NN is pulling him somewhere else. And that this was all an elaborate hoax concocted by Karma.

And the truth is that I have never loved a man like this (or felt as loved as I did/do by him), but I guess that's the way it is.

So thanks for your Davison interps. It's a truly fascinating way to look at a chart and I think I'll study it more in depth in the future.

Damned Nodes. They are currently the bane of my existence. And that's putting it politely

posted August 05, 2007 02:55 PM           

thanks for your interpretation on this - ypu just dont know--but youve nailed it right hihihi - comunication is our key word !

yup you 2 have many SN connections,meaning lots of karma isnt it? its positive cause in that way you will also learn a lot together for your own good- its Destiny Jane - cant run from that!

posted August 06, 2007 01:44 AM         

About the south node, I have nothing that really emphasizes his but his karma conjuncts mine. Is it really Unfinished business, or just something I should overlook since karma moves so slowly?

My venus conjuncts his NN and reading you guy's experiences as the NN person in this combo once again reassures me, the insecure cancer, that the intensity of my feelings, love, and attachment to him is mutual. Thanks!