posted December 31, 2007 05:04 PM         

Moon oppostion Uranus
Sun oppositon Pluto

are powerful negative relationship aspects and in these cases it is not advised to be in the relationship. Does anyone have any input on this?

posted December 31, 2007 06:55 PM         

Yeah, l think synastry has to be put into perspective. Although saying that, l would be concerned if mars was badly aspected in the 4th :O

posted December 31, 2007 07:17 PM         

Yeah - perspective
One of my favorite (tired) comments might be, "Do you really want to run your life according to the positions of orbiting balls of gas and frozen rock in the sky and the mathematical angles they make to each other??"

I say, "NO!! I'M driving this bus!!"
As a further note, my parents had Sun opp Pluto and Moon quincunx Uranus in synastry, and they were happily married for 49 years It depends on the people involved, and their maturity and commitment.

Astrology is a helper, an aid to understandiing the psychology of the human spirit -- NOT a tyrannical ruler governing your every action. Awareness, and Knowledge, Are Power!! If something is broken, you can't fix it until you know how it works and how the pieces fit together. If something is a challenge, you find ways to work around the challenge, especially in an association with someone important in your life.

From Steven Forrest: http://www.stevenforrest.com/lovehandles.html

To me, in the realities of the astrological counselling room, there are
two immutable premises:

There is no manner of astrological interaction between two people that
is so inherently sweet that enough selfishness, confusion about sex, or
immaturity cannot turn it sour.

There is no manner of astrological interaction between two people that
is so inherently bitter that enough patience, devotion, and humility can
not only make it last, but make it something precious to both people.

posted January 02, 2008 09:52 PM         

Sure some aspects indicate significant challenges,but that doesn't necessarily mean that their relationship is doomed to fail.

Many long term relationships have significant challenges,and a lot of couples overcome those challenges through good hard work.

posted January 03, 2008 06:32 PM         

agree! Let's face it, if in synastry with Brad Pitt one is told "sorry the synastry has a couple of real suckers" am l gonna say to Brad "sorry hon, l can't date you cos our synastry is not good enough"?

posted January 04, 2008 04:37 PM         

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Are there any aspects to look for in synastry charts that is a surefire "doom" aspect for the future of a relationship?

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If you're looking for happily ever after, watch out for these. But once you've accepted that all relationships have a shelf life, relax and enjoy it while it lasts.

Aquarius Sun conj. Your Sun...LOL

Mars Conj. Sun
Mars Opp/Sq. Sun
Mars Opp/Sq. Moon
Moon Sq. Moon
Mars/Pluto Aspects

posted January 05, 2008 07:10 PM         

His Mars is conjunct my sun? (I always thought conjunctions were a positive thing?)
My Mars is square his sun?

Which Mars/pluto aspects should I look for? And what does a prominent Uranus in a chart look like?

I'm new to astrology so I would like to learn a bit more about all this. Any information you could give would be very helpful.

posted January 06, 2008 10:20 AM         

Looking at your chart I can see you were born two weeks before me. You at the new moon, me at the full moon. Howdy. Say, how is the Saturn Return treating you?

First off, I think it depends on what you're looking for in a relationship. I'm a firm believer that all wishes come true (Then again, I have Jupiter in the 11th). Metaphysically speaking (I'm no expert) I think people come into our lives, irrelevant of sign and aspects, because we wished them to be. When they show up, depending on how we fell, we tend to switch gears forget all about our wish, and try using them for something else. This is when things get complicated...I digress.

I read somewhere or the other, that the closest aspects between the charts will be felt the most. So if you have a Sun conjunct Venus as your most exact aspect, that will color the relationship, leaving these tense aspects to play supporting roles.

In a nutshell: these aspects will only doom a relationship if they are the most prominant aspects between the two charts.

Mars Conj. Sun - A battle of will and ego. Great for short term sexual relationships, and Friendships, bad to long term unions, unless you like that sort of thing. Too much Conflict. The Sun person will demands the lead, the Mars person will resist being pushed around.

Mars Opp/Sq. Sun - S/A/A except conflict may come quicker because Oppositions & squares are not only intense aspects, but challenging ones too.

Mars Opp/Sq. Moon - The moon in receptive, defensive and has no fight. Mars is all out aggression. The moon person feels rushed.

Moon Sq. Moon - Simply, moon/moon compatibility is essential for living or spending extended periods of time with another person.

Mars/Pluto Aspects - Fireworks in the bedroom. And the worse fights, and most intense arguments you could imagine.

Prominent Uranus in their chart. - Uranus in the first house, or Aquarius rising. These people are prone to love at first sight. May suddenly fall in love with someone else and leave you.

Re: Conjunction. A conjunction (...listen to me, I sound like a pro) is more an "intense" aspect than a "good" one. Meaning you feel it's effects more than that of a trine or a sextile.

Eg: Venus Conjunct Mars, and Venus Trine Mars. You would feel the conjunction (for better or worse) more , or quicker than you would the trine.

Additionally, some prefer weaker aspects (trines & sextiles) to the malefic (bad) planets (Mars, Saturn) than stronger aspects (Conjuncts, Opposition, Squares)

posted January 06, 2008 08:16 PM         

We have the most unbelievable sexual chemistry - just through chatting. It's instant as soon as we say hello.

Our closest aspects in synastry (exact/0') are:

his venus conjunct my eros
his sun trine my moon
his moon trine my moon
his saturn conjunct my mars
his pluto conjunct my uranus
his ceres conjunct my sun
his MC trine my sun/mercury
his ac trine my ac
his neptune sextile my vertex
his sun/moon trine my n node
his sun/moon trine my venus
his sun/moon trine my saturn
his venus opposite my chiron
his vertex sextile my mercury
neptune conjunct neptune
his mars trine my moon
his moon square my pluto

It's just phenomenal. Never had this before with anyone, let alone someone l never met!

What do you think is causing such an intense reaction in us both? We are so romantic and feel so comfortable with each other, sometimes l wonder if i'm going mad :O

posted January 07, 2008 08:07 AM         

I just passed here to say sth:

I also firmly believe that no bad aspect can really doom a relationship. What can doom it are the two people involved and what they feel and how they react to one another.

For example me and my bf have Moon skuared Moon(4º), Mars skuare Sun(0º) - but that didnt stopped us from starting a committed relationship where trust and love are the basis of it!

Looking at Herme´s List i wouldnt expect a happily ever after Story BUT

Till now all the challenges we´ve been facing have made us stronger and believing more and more in what special Bond we share with one another.

If you analise the charts closely you find that composite/progressive composite/progressive sinastry/Draconic Charts/Parallells add much more DETAILED aspects that can smooth the "bad" ones you have in sinastry(i say bad but i see it as challenges that lead torwards evolution).

For example we have his Sun Parallel/conj my Mercury( being Merc my sun ruller) - so it can be felt as a conjunction Sun/Sun at a bilevel aspect,turning it more stronger.

His Sun ruler - Venus - is trine my Moon - so it can be felt as a Sun/Moon aspect.
My Merc - my sun ruler - is conj his Venus-his Sun ruler - so another aspect that can strenghten the feeling of compatibility.

We both have sun/venus conj in natal and it appears in composite in the 1st house conj Eros - great to add compatibilitty. Also, Venus is conj the AC in composite!

His Moon (ruler of his AC also) is in his 7th,tightly conj my 5thCusp - adding the quality of a wanting of committed relationship.

Talking about Uranus:

we are both Uranian people ( he has Aqua Moon and i Have a 5thAquaCusp).
We have the "infamous" venus/uranus and sun/uranus skuare.

And that appears rightly so in the sinastry cause natally we have:

His uranus in the 5th(conj his Eros/Mars).Sextile Sun/Venus and trine his ASC

My Uranus is conj Jup. Skuares Sun/Venus.

So we are both free in our minds and spirits,needing some sort of freedom but always in committed and trusting way

posted January 19, 2008 03:48 PM         

I wish I could have said it in 50 words or less like you did!!

posted January 19, 2008 04:48 PM         

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I agree with the moon square moon. Very awful feeling...ouch!!!

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Moon Sq. Moon - Simply, moon/moon compatibility is essential for living or spending extended periods of time with another person.

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