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Topic: Same Sex Sexual Soul Unions
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MysticMelody
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posted May 06, 2008 06:29 PM
 
I think most people, if they are wise and search their hearts, would agree that any loving soul mate connection has value, regardless of the appearance of the physical shell around any two entities. In recognition that not everyone in our world is "wise" and therefore does not see this obvious truth, (which probably causes a great deal of discomfort for many of our members during their daily lives), I am opening this thread as a place where if people wish, they can express their loving acceptance. I offer it as a place to talk about feelings, educate others, seek support, explain things that bother you about others' ignorant reactions in the "real" world.... anything that will help everyone feel welcome and at peace here in LindaLand. 
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lechien
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From: Germany
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted May 06, 2008 08:12 PM
of course! in an ideal world, you did not have to make a "special" thread for this.i think, in my theory, there is something that surpasses this "gay" "straight" thing, and it happens all the time to everyone. but they just easily go being unnoticed or dismissed by the very persons who get touched by it, because it's not "common". i have 2 good friends, one gay and one my ex-lover. the gay friend was in love with my ex-lover (i was seeing him at a different time), and my ex-lover found him very very dear. he tried really hard to switch to being gay, but in the end it was physically unresponsive! my ex-lover had no inhibition about being with a boy, and his attitude is like, "i tried once to be with a girl who lived in the southern end of new zealand, but the distance was just not working out". he is very very straight, but he also just surpasses the boundary because he sees no difference if it's love. everyone should have that way of feeling. IP: Logged |
hippichick
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From: The Ether
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted May 06, 2008 10:06 PM
When my 20 year old daughter "came out" around 2 years ago, when she was 18 or so...she told me..."male and female gender do not make a difference, it is the soul that really matters and the soul is androgynous...." I think gay folks can be some very spiritually evolved individuals, well...my kid is, anyway. But, of course, as in any sub culture there are those that use it as a fad....shame... Just think! To follow your heart, to transcend the societally-imposed sexual boundaries, and be your self, really BE yourself!!! BE REAL!!! (as the skin horse told the rabbit!!!  ) I have come to embrace the culture and love them...my youngest, 16 yr old daughter, has a very close friend who is gay. He has expressed comfort in my home, like no other place on earth, cause I embrace him, and do not judge.  IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat......... fayte1954@hotmail.com LEXIGRAMMING
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted May 06, 2008 10:27 PM
The body is just a body. The gender identity is of one's soul, be one gay or straight whilst in body.IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
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posted May 06, 2008 11:56 PM
Rock on brilliant women. I do think it is certainly ok to have different preferences in physical bodies, just that these preferences should not be assumed or "required" due to cultural gender or physical organs. We are all made up of different combinations of energies, and genetics and biology do not always agree with our hearts and minds. It's a balance we each have to find for ourselves.IP: Logged |
fieryscales
Moderator Posts: 511
From: My own private world
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted May 07, 2008 09:09 AM
As some of you know already, I am gay myself. However, I DO NOT show off my sexuality unlike the flamboyant, showy gays that are around ( they make me sick actually).
Obviously I am sexually attracted to men but since I have come out, I am far more comfortable in my own skin and been around other gay men. I am myself.
As for women, I like their company, but I am not sexually attracted to them and cannot imagine what sex is like with women. But I enjoy their company, nevertheless.Thank you MM for starting this thread IP: Logged |
deuxantares
Knowflake Posts: 285
From: Female, Dubai
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted May 07, 2008 09:34 AM
yes, the body is just a container that the soul chose to experience what it needs to experience in this lifetime.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat......... fayte1954@hotmail.com LEXIGRAMMING
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posted May 07, 2008 12:45 PM
The situation becomes even more complex for those who were born intersexed and are neither completely male or female physically.
I suspect there are many more androgynes out there then folks realize. Most were assigned a gender at birth and even surgically "fixed". usually to appear female, and given hormones to force early puberty(like at age 8!) and stunt height growth. Society and the medical community is so terrified by the idea of just letting folks be as they were born, androgyne or various degrees of hemaphroditism, intersexuality. Physically there is more than simply male and female, and when one adds in gender identities and soul gender identity, it becomes quite complex.
A body is simply where our soul lives while in an incarnation. True love surpasses any physical aspects. IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: South Carolina, USA
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted May 07, 2008 10:16 PM
I always look at it this way. Being gay is only about 5% of what I am. Its funny I actually like being gay, I feel like God said ok, since you choose to be gay, I am going to give you a fabulous sense of humor and a flair for style, lol. (Hey it sounds good at least) Whatever the case is I am happy to be here, and I am finally happy that I chose to be gay. At least I choose to be masculine, that helps alot, lol. ------------------
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fieryscales
Moderator Posts: 511
From: My own private world
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posted May 08, 2008 03:21 AM
Nice one, One  IP: Logged |
deuxantares
Knowflake Posts: 285
From: Female, Dubai
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted May 08, 2008 03:30 AM
i would love to be a gay man, seriously. i have lots of gay guy friends and they are the funnest people. sometimes i think i'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body.  ONE to sense of humor and flair for style IP: Logged |
Kal_El
Knowflake Posts: 242
From: Seattle
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted May 08, 2008 03:38 AM
I agree. Lovely Thread.
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"male and female gender do not make a difference, it is the soul that really matters and the soul is androgynous...."
indeed.------------------
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fieryscales
Moderator Posts: 511
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posted May 08, 2008 03:40 AM
Deau  It would be a pleasure if you were a gay man  IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
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posted May 08, 2008 09:00 AM
I think I am a gay woman trapped in a mans body. I just loooooove women! j/k lol!But I guess your right. I'm straight as a level but I don't at all have a problem with gay people. My oldest sis is Bi and we get along GREAT (She was born less than 5 minutes into Pisces). I also work with a few gay people and their all as "cool as a fan," we get along great. I think the soul is just energy and when two soulmates meet, it is a meeting of complementary energies. I think our souls are colored by gender though. I think for gay people, their souls just got matched up with the wrong physical bodies (this is just a theory of mine, I have no proof). We have to remember that (complementary) opposites attract. ------------------
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oneruledbymars
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: South Carolina, USA
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted May 08, 2008 04:06 PM
Fiery and Deux- you guys like that huh! lol I was laughing while I wrote it.
Gemini- I can see why you would think that. But honestly I think that we choose our preference as far as orientation goes before we even get here. I think that is why most gay people including me feel like they were "born this way". And that is why science cannot find the "chromosomes" that would infer it. Because it is a choice, a soul that comes here as a gay man, felt the need to choose something a little "harder", he wanted more of a challenge. For some reason who knows, life is not hard now as a gay man but I went through years of confusion as to why I was gay, I had all straight guy bestfriends that I loved to death and vice versa, the only thing gay about me was the man I was sleeping with, so I was embarrassed by it, like "why am I attracted to guys, dammit" lol. And its funny because most gay men are so broken to me, its like the soul bit off more than it can chew. It will be interesting to see how the worlds accepting an openly gay, "normal acting[whatever that is, lol], successful, yet strong man would change society's muddled perceptions? That would be interesting wouldnt it Fiery? Whatever the case I think we know exactly what we are doing when we choose to be gay before we enter this world. The universe does not make mistakes. Its funny because if you think of most couples that are soul mates, the male and female characteristics in them are funny, most often the guy is a metrosexual and the woman is a beautiful "Tom girl". What do you guys think?------------------
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fieryscales
Moderator Posts: 511
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posted May 08, 2008 06:31 PM
I agree with One that we choose our preferences before we get here.
The fact is, there are gays around and people just have to get used to it. There always were and always will be gays around.IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
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posted May 08, 2008 07:36 PM
Brilliant OneRuledByMars. Obviously, that is the Truth.  IP: Logged |
LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 818
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat......... fayte1954@hotmail.com LEXIGRAMMING
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted May 08, 2008 09:39 PM
OK...Hold onto your hats!
BIG LONG DRAWN OUT SIGH.
I am coming out of the closet here.
Some here may be shocked, some may not care, or some may turn against me as a few have who I made the mistake of telling. I hope some will think, cool! I do not want to keep hiding even if some more here decide to hate me. I also got alot of grief from several who did not understand why women confound me to no end! It was not their fault. How could they understand without all the facts? To them I was just being unsociable to other women!
Soooooooooooooooo............
Here goes.....
I was born intersexed. That means at my birth they could not easily ascertain if I were a boy or a girl. Well I was both. They chose female for me as is usually the gender THEY CHOSE, the idiot medical community and society who cannot tolerate a 3rd. gender, the Androgyne. They surgically "fixed" me to be almost all female. Yippie.  Lets just say my childhood and much of my life has been a hell because of what they did to me. If I had not been given female hormones which stunted my height by a forced FULL puberty at age 8, and produced gigantimastica, in me, a little kid. I was a freak to the other kids and adults. I would be like 6 feet tall not short, and look like a man, and I would not have weight problems, and other problems if I'd been left alone. And I would have still been able to get pregnant and give birth, being a fertile androgyne, as I did...oddly with male hormones added! Psychiatric tests have deemed me between 98% and 100% psychologically a male...a gay male. I live as a female in public because I cannot live physically as the real me. The medical community stole that from me. So yeah, the gender of soul mates, soul unions is irrelevant!
A body is just where we live, be it male, female, or androgyne! Funny thing is, in ancient cultures and some native American cultures, one such as I was at birth would have been seen as a sacred spiritually advanced soul/person, not a freak of nature or cursed by God.
So there it is folks...my big terrible secret a few had tried to blackmail me with some time back here at LL! I am tired of hiding and bowing to blackmail threats.
Blessings to all with hopes you can at least try to accept this about me.
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writesomething
Moderator Posts: 1423
From: meet me in montauk
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posted May 08, 2008 09:47 PM
wow, LEXX....
god bless you,
what a difficult thing to go thru in this world..
so much judgment, and pain...
i send you love and healing.
thank you for sharing your story, i think it will open a few minds here...IP: Logged |
LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 818
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat......... fayte1954@hotmail.com LEXIGRAMMING
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted May 08, 2008 10:07 PM
writesomething  quote:
thank you for sharing your story, i think it will open a few minds here...
I was really scared to for so long. This thread somehow seemed to hit home for me on so many levels. I do hope my highly condensed version of my being what I am will open minds here. I was literally shaking when I posted it. Now a strange wonderful calm relief has come over me. 
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26taurus
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posted May 08, 2008 10:42 PM
Great thoughts everyone. I tend to agree with the opinions here. Do you think at some level we may be sexless though? Or an equal balance of masculine feminine energies?Lot's to think about anyway... IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted May 08, 2008 10:42 PM
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LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 818
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat......... fayte1954@hotmail.com LEXIGRAMMING
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted May 08, 2008 10:55 PM
Thanks 26taurus!
Ah sexless! I think that is very likely closer to the truth!
Sexual attraction is a physical thing, a hormonal and pheromone thing. Add in soul gender identity and past lives, and man it gets complicated!
As one gay friend of mine said..."what is it with straight, gay, bi, whatever? I mean, the buttons are different but all in all much the same! Love is not really about gender and sex is it?"
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26taurus
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posted May 08, 2008 11:20 PM
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MysticMelody
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posted May 09, 2008 12:46 AM
Enigma (remember?) You are loved.
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