posted August 18, 2008 05:52 AM            

Let there be Light, I'm not going to lie... I would like an explanation. I think he was sensitive to some things I said coupled with full moon/ eclipse and the whole emotional nature of our association but I also now see that "age" obviously DOES matter. Maybe not after Saturn return, but I think it really does before it. Ignores my calls like I'm some annoying stalker chick "blowing up his phone" when he is the one who TOLD me to call HIM. Ok, I guess I'm still not done being annoyed and bitter.

I really appreciate hearing about your past experience since he was also a Scorp/Cancer. I'm tired, but maybe I will be able to explain my thoughts more clearly tomorrow or the next day after some sleep and thought.

posted August 18, 2008 06:00 AM            

No, I called him as he instructed and he didn't answer his phone. Left the message a warm and smiley "it's me" because he told me to call. Called again an hour and a half later because his phone had picked up immediately and played the voice mail message the first time, so I thought he might be on the phone or turned it off for a nap or something. I was still happy then, had been getting ready assuming he was just napping or something, but this time it rang the usual amount before a voice mail picks up and I said hi and maybe he was showering or something and I was almost ready but was waiting for his call... so I knew if I needed a jacket etc type of comment (because we had talked about mini-golf and movies etc but hadn't finalized anything) so talk to him soon (warm, happy, excited tone) and then like an hour after that when I knew that by 7:30 at night he would have at least checked the messages when he asked me the day before to call as soon as I got back from the family event (he told this 3 times and made me promise to call) which I told him was in the afternoon... I realized he was actually screening his phone to avoid my call and I was astounded and very hurt and then just in shock that I had actually been stupid enough to think he was mature just because he was a Scorpio.
I should also add that told me to call him a few times "when I got home" etc which I took as eagerness to speak to me and even a concern for my well-being (Cancer moon) but he never seemed especially interested in talking at the times he told me to call (like he was going out with friends and told me to call and I said, oh you'll already be gone by the time I get back and he would say, it's a cell phone, you can still call...) and sometimes wouldn't call me back right away so I would call again like 20 minutes later thinking he didn't hear the ring and then he would answer but I would end up feeling like I had called HIM, when in reality I was just honoring his enthusiastic request from earlier that I thought was charming. I started to wonder last night if maybe he was just checking up on me and my tone was slightly crabby that he had me call again when he didn't really want to talk for more than a minute and that is when he made me reassure him and practically made me promise I still wanted to go out tonight etc. and we were both totally sweet and he said see you then and bye babe.

posted August 18, 2008 03:48 PM            

What really bothers me honestly is the angles. Trying to figure out astrology... it seems like the angles are so important, but they obviously can just signify a person who is almost an important EVENT in your life. Especially in context with the Vertex. I always thought they meant a really important person that in a way would be lasting even if it was just a meet ten years later and still feel a friendship/connection to the person. Well, I guess that might actually be true in this case...
I also think the Saturn connections are interesting and worth discussion for such a short relationship.

posted August 18, 2008 04:04 PM            

Sextile my Venus and Mars 3 degrees

Sextile my Uranus 2 degrees

and the interp I posted above...
Opposite my Saturn 4 degrees

also
Quintile my Mercury and Pluto 1 degree

and semi-sextile my MC and some asteroids etc

So, that seems like nice Saturn contacts, gentle contacts, not too restrictive... but the Saturn Opposite Saturn clearly overrides all of those other more minor contacts.

Now, MY Saturn is

Quincunx his Venus exact

Square his Jupiter 6 degrees (obviously didn't like THAT hehe)

Quincunx his Neptune 2 degrees and Pluto 1 degree

and again, the Saturn op Saturn

I've read that too many semi-sextiles aren't a good thing (one sign away).
The Quincunx is the 6-8 relationship which Linda calls an "irresistible sexual attraction" and that it is a vibrational pattern of service.

posted August 18, 2008 05:57 PM            

I was just writing you to say please give him a chance to explain. I see you have already received your reply. It's ok, though. I don't know what you wrote in the email to him, but all is not lost. Clear it up. Misunderstandings happen. Scorpios understand that very well. Just talk to him. In person is best and in close, privacy if possible. He will listen to you and all will be forgiven.

posted August 18, 2008 06:11 PM            

and he wants me to call since he's off work for the service for the family friend that was today.

posted August 18, 2008 06:26 PM            

I guess I'm lost on the dates here. I read the posts, wasn't the checking the dates. I didn't know two weeks had lapsed since your "saturday night" destiny meeting...was that written somewhere in-between all the astro geek-speak (just kidding about the geek-speak, serious about the timeframe... ) As far as his phone, he may not have had time to go home and get his phone. Could depend on how emotional the situation was and how absorbed he was in it...

Mystic, just be cool and relax with him. He knows what he is doing for the most part. If there is one man in the zodiac (albeit the little I know) that you can be transparent with, it is a Scorp. He already likes you, please have faith in yourself and in that truth.

posted August 18, 2008 06:56 PM            

If I cave and send the stupid message since he's obviously terrified to call me (and the letter I sent was loving and beautiful, not angry at all) since the last thing he wrote is "I hope you are having a nice day!!!" with the three exclamations... hehe and if he doesn't call back I'm not going to be capable of being nice anymore. I know intellectually that people should be allowed to make mistakes... and you are right about everything, LD. I am not having faith in what I already know because of the age difference. And I don't know if that's a good thing or bad. Ok...
You know I'll be back tomorrow talking about some magical evening, right? Faith Faith Faith

God help me...
I sent the message. *sigh*

posted August 18, 2008 07:09 PM            

Oh and LetsDance, I was asking "Somebody kill me" not because I sent the goodbye email but because the excuse was so good it left enough room to doubt my original Capricorn self-preservation conclusion of "See? I told you he was too young!" and to allow some silly gullible open-hearted (bllleeeech) sentiment that (and birds) maybe... just maybe...

so, again...

posted August 18, 2008 07:48 PM            

I'm glad that things are still "on" with the two of you. I think for the time being, if you really care for him, put away your worries. He is in pain and really needs you to be there and be strong for him. Losing someone is so hard.

posted August 18, 2008 08:37 PM            

I agree with 8th, put your concerns aside for your relationship with him, and focus on what he is dealing with right now. Grief. Loss. He'll appreciate you for that.

Mel, please don't bring up the age thing anymore if you can at all help it. He already knows about the age difference. Instead, find out what he likes about you, how he feels about you, what you two have in common and grow on those things. Try not to second-guess him -- at least not to his face. You can be wise and grounded, but let him show his wisdom and anchor, too...

K?

posted August 18, 2008 09:07 PM            

I'll just do all the second guessing of everything here, right?

posted August 18, 2008 11:13 PM            

I appreciate what Lets Dance is telling you fully. Yes, your time is so important to you. You need to tell him that face to face over coffee. Let him look into your big eyes, and explain to you in person, why that night was a flop. Let him make it up to you. Those things do happen and they are not personal. Have him pay for the coffee, dinner, whatever.

He called you from the service.....
With all the wonderful angles, and attraction, everything is going to be OK.

Its going to be OK!

posted August 19, 2008 12:25 AM              

ask and listen to your heart of hearts...

posted August 19, 2008 01:43 AM            

Everything is ok. The friend was driving and they were over in Iowa (the Quad Cities is on the border of Illinois and Iowa on the Mississippi River) and the friend didn't want to drive him all the way back to get his phone. I also asked him about why he would ask me to call when he was out and couldn't really talk and he said "because I wanted to hear your voice." How can you be upset about that?

Well, I don't know if we are right for each other for the long term but after reading your post, Pix, I went back and read page one and felt better. I told him that I read what I had wrote and thought back to that night and thought well, we had that nice time at least. And he said, "Yeah and like I said, I wanted more." It was good. I'm going to chill. He said we could go out next weekend and see a movie or whatever I wanted, talk before, whatever, I could decide.

Classes start Monday...

I'll let everyone know how those angles work out.
Now that this eclipse is over I will hopefully have the strength to remember to pray. LetsDance reminded me of my prayer. I'll repost it below.

I have to keep focused on the fact that I am supposed to be loving and blessing this person, while caring about myself too... but not just looking for my own momentary needs to be fulfilled.

posted August 19, 2008 11:51 AM            

Yea! See, that wasnt soo bad...
Just wanted to say I loved sharing with you, and I totally relate. I have been raising a little girl on my own 6 years now, and shes 9...have had an interesting Aqua (you think scorpio is a handful) lover almost 5 years now, and still at it.