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Topic: Do twin flames put each other through immense pain?
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2022 01:30 PM
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saronna Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted January 14, 2022 06:28 AM
I don't think twin souls put each other through immense pain. Twin souls they have tests but they never hurt or cause each other immense pain intentionally. Twin souls feel immense pain when they are seperated & they feel lonlinessIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 28, 2022 05:12 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2022 11:55 AM
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saronna Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 22, 2022 03:17 PM
It's what I experienced but the reality is Linda Goodman experienced immense pain with her twin soul & can relate to Gooberz. Its what makes Gooberz one of her best books on twin souls. It's possible to love. Love conquers all.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 12, 2022 11:20 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2022 06:04 PM
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Emsie Knowflake Posts: 1658 From: EU Registered: Jul 2012
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posted June 05, 2022 06:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: Hi everyone, I wanted to update you all from the last time, I mentioned that he had contacted me after 6 years of no contact, and out of the blue, and I also knew that he was in a long term relationship with another girl. Well after a few exchanges on Social media he told me that he had actually broken up with his girlfriend. For reasons I don’t know.And i suddenly realised why he contacted me after so long. When I let him back in 2012, he approached me then as a distraction to first break up his girlfriend he had back then; I remember he was really intensely into me, but I also think he used me as way to break up with his girlfriend at the time. As soon as he told me 6 years later that he has just broken up with his current girlfriend (they were still together when he contact me, but broke up months later) it just hit me that he is following the same pattern as before; he finds me physically attractive so he uses me as a distraction to find courage to break his relationships; and a way to get over these past loves is to focus on me as it maybe was just a physical thing for him when it came to me. So basically after realising this I felt maybe I’m just like a piece of pawn in his life, needs me for a short while until someone he truly loves Comes along and I can be traded. It just made sense why he would contact me out of the blue, whilst he was in the relationship and happy there was absolute nothing from him, as soon as he realised he doesn’t want to be in the relationship anymore; he messages me and uses me as a means of distraction. I let him in my life the first time round, was there for him and honestly would have done anything for him. He left me to go to the other side of the world, and wanted nothing to do with me, I had to pick myself up and sort myself out emotionally and mentally; and he came back just like that and I was ready to be there for him just like that again. This time when iI leant the broke up with his girlfriends, I kept the conversation short; and wished him all the best. I know I love him and always will, but I need to look after My own emotional health; I know I would break if I were to physically see him, so it’s good that we aren’t anywhere near each other. But there you go....and now I know... I hope I’m wiser this time...
Omg, reading this nearly 2 years after your update. I was initially left speechless, in all honesty I found his behaviour really disturbing and disgusting at the same time. I think you have done the right thing to wish him well. One thing is for sure, from outside perspective it seems like a major lesson for you to realise your own worth and self-love - you are nobody's toy and temporary 'go-to'. What he did (does) is pure selfishness and you definitely deserve better treatment. What was really a major red flag for me while reading was the he told me 6 years later that he has just broken up with his current girlfriend (they were still together when he contact me, but broke up months later) part. He clearly cannot gain strength and courage from himself, but instead uses you and steps on you without considering your side and your feelings at all. And what he stated was technically not true (lied to you). Not to mention the social media 'showing off'... In general, I always tell people that whomever needs to put anything or everything on display (to make people believe the person is happy, to validate egos, etc.) is shallow, superficial and is not ready to have the capacity for anything deep, only toxicity and more shallowness. If there is anything to prove to the outer world then it is dead from the beginning. It is interesting to witness such thing why he needed (needs) to prove his major "happiness", but I would say let it be his problem and question to answer. Clearly there is a huge problem there, but it's his and only his responsibility to deal with it. We don't need anybody's burden. I send you many hugs and encouragement to focus on your well-being and what your true worth is. And I really wish you to find someone one day who is able to see your worth and give all the depth, love and attention you want and need. P.S. I find your pattern realizaton epiphany really cool and a MAJOR milestone in your healing process. Keep up the great inner work, it is not easy, but will definitely worth it. IP: Logged |
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posted June 07, 2022 01:01 AM
quote: ...Not to mention the social media 'showing off'... In general, I always tell people that whomever needs to put anything or everything on display (to make people believe the person is happy, to validate egos, etc.) is shallow, superficial and is not ready to have the capacity for anything deep, only toxicity and more shallowness. If there is anything to prove to the outer world then it is dead from the beginning. It is interesting to witness such thing why he needed (needs) to prove his major "happiness", but I would say let it be his problem and question to answer. Clearly there is a huge problem there, but it's his and only his responsibility to deal with it. We don't need anybody's burden...
Well said, and I've had similar feelings, intuitions, and thoughts about this as well. The woman I referenced to earlier in this thread, i.e. the potential twin soul connection (though now I doubt it more and more), well if one looks at her FB, her life couldn't be more perfect and happy. She apparently only lives in complete bliss and appreciation. (Yet, she is going through T. Pluto in her 5th conjunct her Neptune/Uranus conjunction [where Neptune rules her Desc, Venus, and Saturn] and square her Sun/Mercury/South Node conjunction IN THE 8th HOUSE, where Mercury is her chart ruler. And T Saturn has been squaring her Moon/Pluto/IC conjunction...? That's pretty amazing that she is that happy, centered, appreciative, etc during such an intensely challenging cycle). Something about it feels off and forced though. In her case, her livelihood/finances does depend a lot on her outer image. She primarily counsels other women--sort of a life couch/counselor. Obviously if the public knew how many problems and issues she has within herself and in her life, it would be hard to get clients. So to some extent, I understand the projection. And maybe there is plenty of truth to the image she has erected. She does seem to be in a metamorphosis, especially since we met, and for a month--everyday I meditated and sent her healing and Love based energy (she asked for my help in healing her). According to her own words, things really started to change for her during/right after this took place. And it was before she met her current "perfect" partner (who btw, in private she complained about some to me), so yeah... Oh, and you would think her partner is like a male model or something with the amount of posing type pictures he has of himself up. Also, he apparently is a very potent and powerful healer and spiritual teacher type--all quite advertised (and with a changed last name to reflect same, etc) and also to attract clients. In turn, he publicly calls her a Goddess and "master Soul", which I think probably appeals to her Aries Sun, Taurus Mercury/South Node, Leo Mars, and Scorp Moon conjunct Pluto/IC. My conscious, intellect, personality mind sometimes wonders, "why do you miss her at all? She never treated you with respect, consideration, and love. And she and her partner seem like ego inflated narcissists." But the truth is, we have other layers of self, and you can't always help who you love and want. And her desire to serve and help others, is mostly genuine and spiritually motivated. Things are rarely ever completely black and white. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 29, 2022 03:13 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 15, 2022 11:52 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2022 02:31 PM
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sc0rpioRising Knowflake Posts: 1534 From: somewhere! Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 08, 2022 05:52 PM
We don’t talk anymore; I also stopped using the social media platform that we were connected on. But I see his name everywhere! I once saw his first and middle name on a truck driving the opposite direction to me 🙄💫IP: Logged |
Robi1 Newflake Posts: 4 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Aug 2022
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posted September 08, 2022 02:08 PM
May be It Is too late to write on this topic but i would like to ask something about it. In your experience which aspects make for twinflames and in case of an impossible connection still a karmic one, which planets, points or angles are involved and in which aspect ?------------------ “AERODYNAMICALLY THE BUMBLEBEE SHOULDN’T BE ABLE TO FLY, BUT THE BUMBLEBEE DOESN’T KNOW THAT SO IT GOES ON FLYING ANYWAY.” IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 08, 2022 05:40 PM
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sc0rpioRising Knowflake Posts: 1534 From: somewhere! Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 21, 2022 09:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Robi1: May be It Is too late to write on this topic but i would like to ask something about it. In your experience which aspects make for twinflames and in case of an impossible connection still a karmic one, which planets, points or angles are involved and in which aspect ?
Hiya, my guess would be, looking at what I went through personally, personal planets in 12th or 8th house, Saturn aspects, possibly squares, and also Uranus aspects, which can cause sudden break up / moving away. This person has his sun in my 12th, my moon in his 8th house, my sun in his 4th house, Saturn square north node and Saturn conjunct anti vertex … those houses are known as karmic houses.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 13, 2022 10:09 AM
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Emsie Knowflake Posts: 1658 From: EU Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 03, 2024 09:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: We don’t talk anymore; I also stopped using the social media platform that we were connected on. But I see his name everywhere! I once saw his first and middle name on a truck driving the opposite direction to me 🙄💫
After nearly 12 years of dealing with my situation, I have another update. It looks like I managed to snap out of the seemingly endless loop of repetitive cycle. In the last couple of years the tentacles of the connection have started to slowly release me and the hold became more and more weaker until a day when I eventually realized the person doesn't have a hold on me anymore and finally I've moved on. No strings attached, no nothing... It helped me bigtime when I had the opportunity to gain insight into the person's ways of behaving, and discovered a few not-so-desirable things he did before in the past. The exact things which, in my self-love and evolved state of mind, I do not tolerate in any way. I deserve much more than that. Just like you I still see his initials on number plates, etc, but it doesn't faze me anymore. I also noticed that the less I think about the person the less I bump into his initials, or any signs about him. I used to dream about him at least once or twice every year, but he doesn't appear in my dreams anymore, fortunately. I'm starting a brand new phase in my life, a completely clean slate on my most authentic path getting back to my true life purpose. I'm still observing, but I think this shift in my life has brought a potential marriage material in my way... I feel the 'old world' didn't contain an authentic and truthful person just for me, but this 'new world' hopefully does. I made my peace with how things went for a little bit more than a decade. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2024 04:54 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 02, 2024 06:36 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2024 01:12 PM
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 9355 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 15, 2024 02:29 PM
I don't think I know what a soul mate is. I know what a karmic partner is and a flame though. I got a message yesterday that mine wants to face me. A karmic will attempt to undo all the progress you've made and completely drain you. But the physical attraction and chemistry and being able to express lower evolved parts of your self. Twins can trigger, but also flip the script. Give you messages on how to be your best authentic self. Also super attractive and irritable. But has the best energy ever when they feel like it. And when they don't it feels like hard core betrayal. That's all for now. I don't really get soulmates when you have an existing twin. I don't get how anyone is a soulmate if they are in the way, or flames are using them. Just my thoughts. I've heard frustrated twins say get a soul mate. So when I asked my self that in my head I came across a reddit article about someone expressing fining a soulmate instead but how deep down they can ever shake their twin. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2024 02:40 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 197430 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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