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Topic: Dark asteroids - Ami
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 07:08 AM
His Sun conjunct your Chiron OUCH My mother has this with me, so I know about it. The planet wants the Chiron person to heal them. These relationships can be too,too close and then explode one day and you never see the person, again. Strangely, with the Chiron break, it is NOT usually an explosion. One day, one person drops the other, without huge fanfare, usually. It may have some fanfare but the main thing seems to be that it goes from really intense to nothing and you can't stop it.This has happened in 80 % of my Chiron relationships==male and female friends, usually. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 08:14 AM
Ami,yes that is my experience with Sun-Chiron as well. You described it spendidly. But back to the current synastry. I think I like that my Pholus conjuncts his Eros. You know what is funny?
My name asteroid in his chart is conjunct his Eros under one degree (and it is conjunct MY Ceres and chartruler Jupiter, so very much an identificator). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 08:26 AM
That is amazing about the name asteroid! Those amaze me the most, perhaps. Thank you for what you said about Chiron conjunct the Sun. I find Chiron relationships to be very strange and usually the SAME in their strangeness ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 08:51 AM
Yes, Chiron is strange. But in a strange way it is also deep soulstuff, I find that it renders someone completely vulnerable. As if you had shed every protective skin, and you can only hope the other one will not hurt you so much, that it might destroy you. Sort of like your core lies totally open, and you don`t have any kind of defenses.Though I must say it is entirely possible,t hat it is just my own reaction to Chiron. Chiron is in the 4th house for me, and squares Saturn in Cancer in 8th house by a bit more than 3 degrees and sextiles Moon by 3 degrees. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:04 AM
When Chiron Touches a Planet/Asteroid in Synastry By amiann | Published: January 14, 2012 |This is a purely amazing subject.I am talking from my own personal experience, as well as the many charts I have done. Chiron is a weird-o. If I see Chiron coming in synastry, I hold my breath. Chiron will usually follow the same path, such that I know what he is up to, by now. I will try to explain what I have observed with Chiron in synastry. Please, add any comments yea or nay, as always. The planet person,usually, comes to the Chiron person for healing. The myth of Chiron is that of the wounded healer. Chiron can heal others from his wound, but he can never heal, himself. It is a sad story, as are most of the myths. However, the myths ring true . That is why they are so poignant. In one chart, the mother’s Aqua Sun and mercury were an exact conjunction with the daughters Chiron. True to the myth, the mother wanted the daughter to parent her, guide her, and heal her. The daughter was a child and unable . The mother was very angry, as she thought it was her due, from being a mother. The relationship between mother and daughter was very hard. Ultimately, as happens with most Chiron relationships, it was too painful and broke apart to nothingness. In another relationship between two girlfriends, they got close very fast, as is the case with Chiron. They felt they had found their best friend. It was wonderfully close, for as long as it lasted. There was an unusual depth and connection. There seems to be a loyalty,too. While the Chiron relationship lasts, it can be very positive. It can fill a void for each person. It can provide an intense connection which acts for the good of both people. In other words, it can be very positive while it lasts. However, when it breaks apart, that can be expected. When that happens, one must celebrate what was and let the person go. In the latter, it was an exact Venus/ Chiron conjunction in synastry. Another example is a platonic male/female relationship. His mars was conjunct her Chiron. Again, they got very close, very fast. It was wonderfully healing, for as long as it lasted. Then, there was a small misunderstanding and it split apart, as fast as it had come together. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:04 AM
The strangest one was between two girlfriends.One girl’s Nessus was conjunct the other’s Chiron. The strangeness of the aspect, exactly, mirrored the strangeness of the relationship, from beginning to end. They started off as close friends. Then, they became bitter enemies. Then, they became very close, in the best friends way that is classic with Chiron. Then, the split apart over a small misunderstanding which was impossible to resolve, even though it should have been easy. The Nessus/ Chiron one was the strangest in that the Chiron person dropped off the face of the earth to the Nessus person, who had been her closest friend, just before. However, due to the intensity of each planet/ asteroid, one would expect such a bizarre course of events.I will mention the North Node and Chiron, here., even though I talked about it in a separate article.This one must be stated, as Chiron will become the theme of the relationship. If a married couple has one person’s Chiron conjunct another’s North Node, there will be a pain theme in the relationship. Chiron, by nature, cannot heal. As such, there will be an open wound as the core of the relationship. This is very sad. I have guidelines for any Chiron relationships. One must give a lot of space to each other, if the relationship is to last. Can it last? I don’t know . I know that NN/ Chiron can last, but one will be well versed in pain, as a res ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:05 AM
I just wrote this. It may have typos but I wanted you to see it, Ceri.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 09:05 AM
Hmm, when writing about that Chiron-experience, this song suddenly came into my mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnGoLk8q7FQ&feature=related and this one as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXSxU5sVY6k&feature=related
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes, Chiron is strange. But in a strange way it is also deep soulstuff, I find that it renders someone completely vulnerable. As if you had shed every protective skin, and you can only hope the other one will not hurt you so much, that it might destroy you. Sort of like your core lies totally open, and you don`t have any kind of defenses.Though I must say it is entirely possible,t hat it is just my own reaction to Chiron. Chiron is in the 4th house for me, and squares Saturn in Cancer in 8th house by a bit more than 3 degrees and sextiles Moon by 3 degrees.
Very well put! May I add that as a quote from an Astrolger?
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:10 AM
I am going to add that. A wonderful Astologer said this and then your quote, if that is OK.
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:14 AM
Would you care for me to put your name up--either Ceri or your real name?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 09:14 AM
Yes, much of this resonates with me.Though I think Chiron can heal. But the healing starts when one accept that the wound is unhealable. Do you know how I mean? It is only through accepting this wound as part of oneself or th eother person, that one is able to let go of it. And by letting go of it, one comes as close to healing as possible. I have come to realize that wounds are not always bad, even though we perceive them as such. But the marks on our souls, the scars, they make us who we are today, they are part of us, and as such they are part of the beauty that is our soul, every soul in its naked essence is beautiful. I would not want to miss that experience with that guy. It shaped the person I am today, and I like the person I am today. This feels very authentic ME. In that song the phrase: Lying naked on the floor, that is exactly how Chiron feels to me, a comletely defenceless, and probably at times, too, hurt or even violated Moon. And yet within that vulnerability, that emotional hurt and wounding, lies our greatest strength as well. Only accepting the vulnerability and inperfections in ourselves, will make us be able to accept and love others as they othere, unconditional, because deep inside we are the same. But yes the path to that point - it is like going completely naked through a thornthicket, and you are bleeding from wounds at parts of your soul and body you did not even know existed before! I think I better stop before i am getting melodramatic here.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 09:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Would you care for me to put your name up--either Ceri or your real name?
I would be honoured. Really. And Ceri is my name. It came to me instead of me using it, so I am honouring it. More practical thinking, I wouldn´t want some pupil`s parents stumbling over my name. Unfortunately society is not yet as accepting of astrology as I would like to. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:24 AM
Thank YOU Ceri ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:26 AM
Yes, I understand about the name, of course.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:31 AM
A wonderful Astrologer Ceridwen, just added this. It was too marvelous, not to share. Yes, Chiron is strange. But in a strange way it is also deep soulstuff, I find that it renders someone completely vulnerable. As if you had shed every protective skin, and you can only hope the other one will not hurt you so much, that it might destroy you. Sort of like your core lies totally open, and you don`t have any kind of defenses.Thank you, Ceri! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 09:34 AM
Thank YOU. And I can`t believe how deeply talking about that experience still makes me tremble inside. It really touched a very deep place.
I know that I am completely over the MAN, but the EXPERIENCE is what has shaped me forever. Makes me feel like crying with an odd mixture of nostalgia, melancholia, sadness and a weird feeling of deeply felt thankfulness and devotion. STrange, hu?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 25916 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 09:37 AM
Aw You are so welcome. It was my pleasure, dear one.Yes, Chiron is very, very strange. It's nature is unlike anything else, it seems, but it follows the same strange course each time IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 09:39 AM
yes, it even diverted our attention from the current synastry. Shall we return to the Eros-one? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1718 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 15, 2012 12:52 PM
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