posted June 08, 2012 01:39 PM            

I looked at it quickly and saw from my knowledge that it is not over and there are good things to come. It looks like the problem is communication and there is possibly a need to sort of start over from the beginning. The moon is at the same degrees as the north node though and this is a very good sign... usually meaning fate is at work. The north node is also in MWs house of communication. This is helpful. (However, this puts the south node in your house of communication and south node represents self-undoing).

Your main sig is: Saturn Rx exhalted in Libra in the 8th. In the terms and triplicity of Mercury, fall of the sun (not receiving MW), face of Jupiter.

MWs main sig is: The Sun last 3* of the 4th in Gemini. In the terms of Venus, triplicity and rule of Mercury, in the face of the sun (dignified).

>> The sun and venus could also be co-sigs but I don't know which genders either of you are so I can't look at them.

Your co-sigs are:
--Moon in Aquarius(at the same degrees as the North node, detriment of the sun,terms of saturn, triplicity Mercury, face of venus) The moon is also on the rising, showing that you are quite emotional about this situation. But I also wonder about it being in the 12th house... maybe it means you are thinking about a secret or maybe it is just showing your sorrow.
--Neptune in Pisces (exhalted,also venus is exhalted there, triplicity of mars, terms of venus, face of saturn, detriment and fall of mercury)
--Uranus... just noticing that it has an exact separating trine and sextile with the AC and DC cusps... these are pleasant aspects but Uranus has a flavor of separation, sudden and unexpected events, etc... Even though this is your sig, it makes me feel like something of this nature happened to separate the two of you quite recently. Or maybe you just pleasantly bumped into each other unexpectedly... not sure what that could mean but the fact that it is exact stands out for me...
continuing... Uranus in Aries (exaltation of the sun, triplicity of Jupiter, face of mars, detriment of Venus)
-- Jupiter in H3 at the very end of Taurus. 29* is critical... again there is a sig in the house of communication at a critical degree. The fact that it is changing signs says that something about the environment or the way that it expresses itself is about to change. At 29* it seems to be ready for change- it wants it.

MWs Co-sigs:
--Mars in Virgo (dispositor Mercury- maybe showing conflicts in communication or anger, triplicity moon, terms venus, face Jupiter, detriment Saturn)
--Mercury in Cancer at almost 1*... I'm sensing that there is something very emotional going on here and at 1* this person has just entered a new environment of thought/communication, emotional expression. (terms and triplicity of Mars perhaps shows strife and discord)

Both the part of fortune and venus are combust. Venus rules your communication/her truth, spirituality, foreign places, education... and rules the 8th house which can mean her values/money, your house of sex/death/partners money... this was a recent separation in your H4... wondering if some of this rings a bell regarding your past problems. The part of fortune combust the sun comes after this question was asked, so it seems that luck will face some debilitation.

Basically there are good things to come, there are applying trines between many of the main and co-sigs so there is come kind of cooperation.

The only problem I have is that the wording of the question you asked is negative: "Is it completely over between MW and me?" Positive aspects indicate a positive answer, so that would mean "yes".... but I think yes is not the answer you are looking for and, as well, the chart doesn't tell me that it is over. Maybe the problem here is that you asked a question on paper but the real question you were thinking was "Will we get back together?" If that is correct then this will all make sense.

If it is correct and this all makes sense, then the degrees are there but they are kind of a mess because there are so many co-sigs in this chart. I'll try to just take the main sigs to give your time line which is 5* meaning 5 days/weeks/months/years, but given the placements of the sigs, I would say that it would be mid range, so probably weeks. I guess from the sigs that there were some problems quite recently but also 10-15* ago... so probably 2-3 months ago.

The situation seems to have an unstable, unpredictable end, which is kind of worrisome... Your main sig and co-sig are both rx. This could mean a return, a review or a change of mind. Is it you who would go back or reconsider? Your sigs are much slower than MWs, so I am guessing that you would be the reluctant one.

posted June 09, 2012 09:38 PM            

Question: "He deleted me on facebook while chatting via sms... why?"

First of all the AC says that it may already be too late to change the situation, or you already know the answer. The moon is also saying something similar.

You are: Mars and Moon

He is: Venus Rx, Jupiter and Sun

Well first of all, he is only concerned with himself, it seems.

At a quick glance, his house of romance is ruled by Venus Rx and co-ruled by Saturn Rx... perhaps he thought he had feelings for you but then something happened in the communications and he changed his mind. Perhaps you said something that he understood incorrectly that hurt him?

Don't be too unhappy about this though. Transit venus is still rx til I think the end of the month, then things concerning romance will straighten out a little more for people.

You also have the true node in your first house which is always a good omen.

Also, I have a feeling because of a few things the chart is saying that things are going to change in 2 or 3 degrees (2-3 weeks perhaps?, possibly sooner, but ). I would think that something might happen, hopefully something positive but I am not sure. I would expect some more challenges to come though and perhaps by the end of July, things will be a whole lot better.

Here is something about Venus Rx for you, the dates and a link if you wanna read more:

Venus Retrograde 2012 Dates

Venus Retrograde 201211 April – Venus enters retrograde zone at 7 Gemini.
15 May – Venus stationary retrograde at 23 Gemini.
27 June – Venus stationary direct at 7 Gemini.
31 July – Venus leaves retrograde zone at 23 Gemini.
http://darkstarastrology.com/venus-retrograde/

PS: Sorry if that was the condensed version, I've been getting busy lately...

PSS: The node and Mercury are at the same degrees and applying in a quincunx, there is something fateful about to happen. The quincunx implies that there must be some restructuring. This is relatively soon, so look for an opportunity to make things better. If you want things to work out in the end, it is implied that restructuring must be done. Mercury is the natural ruler of communication.

posted June 10, 2012 08:35 AM            

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The only problem I have is that the wording of the question you asked is negative: "Is it completely over between MW and me?" Positive aspects indicate a positive answer, so that would mean "yes".... but I think yes is not the answer you are looking for and, as well, the chart doesn't tell me that it is over. Maybe the problem here is that you asked a question on paper but the real question you were thinking was "Will we get back together?" If that is correct then this will all make sense.

If it is correct and this all makes sense, then the degrees are there but they are kind of a mess because there are so many co-sigs in this chart. I'll try to just take the main sigs to give your time line which is 5* meaning 5 days/weeks/months/years, but given the placements of the sigs, I would say that it would be mid range, so probably weeks. I guess from the sigs that there were some problems quite recently but also 10-15* ago... so probably 2-3 months ago.

The situation seems to have an unstable, unpredictable end, which is kind of worrisome... Your main sig and co-sig are both rx. This could mean a return, a review or a change of mind. Is it you who would go back or reconsider? Your sigs are much slower than MWs, so I am guessing that you would be the reluctant one.

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Wow... you've picked up on everything!! Ok in brief, MW's a man and I'm a woman. We had a 'relationship' of sorts... very intense, very upsetting for the most part and I ended it. I've cut contact with him and the reason I asked the question is because I'm not convinced it's the last I'll hear from him. The reading seems to bear that out. If we were ever to be together again I would need a large amount of convincing from him so yes, I'd be the reluctant one.

posted June 10, 2012 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by appleberry:
TONIA:

Question: "He deleted me on facebook while chatting via sms... why?"

First of all the AC says that it may already be too late to change the situation, or you already know the answer. The moon is also saying something similar.

You are: Mars and Moon

He is: Venus Rx, Jupiter and Sun

Well first of all, he is only concerned with himself, it seems.

At a quick glance, his house of romance is ruled by Venus Rx and co-ruled by Saturn Rx... perhaps he thought he had feelings for you but then something happened in the communications and he changed his mind. Perhaps you said something that he understood incorrectly that hurt him?

Don't be too unhappy about this though. Transit venus is still rx til I think the end of the month, then things concerning romance will straighten out a little more for people.

You also have the true node in your first house which is always a good omen.

Also, I have a feeling because of a few things the chart is saying that things are going to change in 2 or 3 degrees (2-3 weeks perhaps?, possibly sooner, but ). I would think that something might happen, hopefully something positive but I am not sure. I would expect some more challenges to come though and perhaps by the end of July, things will be a whole lot better.

Here is something about Venus Rx for you, the dates and a link if you wanna read more:

Venus Retrograde 2012 Dates

Venus Retrograde 201211 April – Venus enters retrograde zone at 7 Gemini.
15 May – Venus stationary retrograde at 23 Gemini.
27 June – Venus stationary direct at 7 Gemini.
31 July – Venus leaves retrograde zone at 23 Gemini.
http://darkstarastrology.com/venus-retrograde/

PS: Sorry if that was the condensed version, I've been getting busy lately...

PSS: The node and Mercury are at the same degrees and applying in a quincunx, there is something fateful about to happen. The quincunx implies that there must be some restructuring. This is relatively soon, so look for an opportunity to make things better. If you want things to work out in the end, it is implied that restructuring must be done. Mercury is the natural ruler of communication.

Good luck! Hope this was helpful

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thank you very much for reading.. i am wrong he didn't deleted me he blocked me... in my account he is not exist but i saw him in other fb account that he exists....

there were a lot of misunderstandings cause i don't know his langauge well

I don't understand him!!!
i'm thinking to ask him what will happened his fb account..i would like to know if he will tell me the truth....

posted June 11, 2012 11:36 AM            

Glad you are finding this helpful!

posted June 11, 2012 05:27 PM            

My question is: when is this Hierophant gonna show up? I read tarot, and whenever I read myself about the next guy who is gonna be, you know, a long-term guy that's good for me... he shows up as the Hierophant. In my spreads and others. I'm a woman, a Leo, and I'm looking for a man.

So! Do you see anything good coming my way? Also, where and how did you start picking this up???

posted June 13, 2012 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by tonia:

thank you very much for reading.. i am wrong he didn't deleted me he blocked me... in my account he is not exist but i saw him in other fb account that he exists....

there were a lot of misunderstandings cause i don't know his langauge well

I don't understand him!!!
i'm thinking to ask him what will happened his fb account..i would like to know if he will tell me the truth....

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posted June 15, 2012 04:33 PM            

No question is silly or irrelevant if it is something you are truly concerned about and longing to know the answer to. If this is just a trivial question in passing though, it's unlikely that the chart will give a clear answer... we'll see.

Question: Will I find love this summer?

You are Jupiter (as well as Neptune in Modern Horary), the moon and Venus (I'm assuming you are female).

You are asking about what I consider to be a romantic affair, so this is primarily shown in this case by: the moon and in certain ways also shown by Venus.

It makes sense that the moon is in your house of self because this is something you are concerned about...so I think this isn't really a silly question for you- you are really longing for it- with Chiron so close to your house cusp, I suppose you were recently wounded... maybe about 2 months ago? Jupiter and the moon are both separating from squares to the sun who represents a man in your chart. This is at the same degree, so also probably 2 weeks or 2 months ago, my guess is 2 months ago because the Sun and Venus (general significators for man and woman) are also mutually separating in Gemini (this could represent a couple that no longer wants to talk to each other) are at 8 degrees of separation, which could also indicate 2 months. Is this why you are longing for new romance- to help move on?

The fact that the moon is in your first house shows strength and that there is a great possibility that it will come because of it's strength.

I can also see that Jupiter is at the very last degree of it's sign. Jupiter is you and this shows that you are in some kind of crisis state, at the end of your rope. This is another indicator for me that this is not a silly question for you. You are sick and tired of the romantic situation that you are in and desperate for it to change. One problem with this is that it is unlikely to change unless your circumstances change. You are in a moderately weak position by house and degrees, but the moon is receiving you (strengthening) and The only way that I could say that what you want will come is if you manage to change the circumstances (I'm not psychic, just a reader, so I can't tell you what that is). However, the main significators for you and this possible romance (Jupiter and the moon) ARE applying to a sextile. This means that the opportunity is there but it will require some effort. The degrees are 7, meaning 7 days, weeks, months, years... I would assume by your question that weeks is the most logical. There are other indicators that show the situation is rapidly changing.

There are many indications of the nature of Mars and a bit of Saturn in your chart, showing some conflict and limitation. I'm not sure what this means, but whatever it is, is part of what is keeping you from your romance.

I also see that your modern significator is in it's own sign which strengthens it but it is Rx and in the 12th house. This shows that you are in a very weak and sorrowful, depressed state. The three main sigs are in depressed, moody and emotional water signs too, so this kind of reinforces that.

Mars could represent a new (young) man for you. Hard to say though, but he would be in your house of relationships. If it is possible for you to change your circumstances, then there is a very positive connection between the two of you at 11 degrees (11 weeks?). I don't know if you already know him, but the separation from him is at 4 degrees from the moon, so it's possible you met him 4 days, weeks or months ago? Not sure about that.

Over all... my guess with this chart is that yes, this romance is very possible, but it is not for sure. Effort must be made on your part to change something and I am not sure what that is. My guess with the emphasis in certain areas is simply that it is your depressed and weakened state that must be changed. First find happiness and then love will come? Kind of a catch 22 though. But do your best to change what it is that you know deep down what you need to change, because all this chart shows is that the opportunity is there, it does not show that the romance will come with ease until the circumstances change.

Hope this helps!

posted June 15, 2012 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by tonia:
He did not tell me the truth. This seems from 6th cusp ruled by him :-\

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Well, the 6th is his house of sorrow. I'm not sure why you are looking at it. His house of truth is the radical 3rd (turned 9th) I suppose. This is again ruled by Saturn Rx which lies in his house of romance. It seems to keep coming back to him changing his mind about romance.

What this chart can also tell you is who the two of you are. You are represented by Scorpio and he Taurus. You are very probing and searching. He is very stubborn and set in his ways. I'm not sure this situation is likely to change. Maybe read some more about the natures of Taurus (as well as Jupiter and Venus Rx) to understand this situation better. Also read about how you are represented in this chart, by Scorpio and Mars. Maybe that will help you find some answers.

posted June 15, 2012 05:28 PM            

No problem, I appreciate the free tarot reading (of which I know relatively nothing) online as well!

I came across some article about it online, then I asked someone a horary question as you are doing, and to my surprise an exact answer came out, with details that the people involved in the question could have known for sure. I was shocked not as much by the correctness of the answer as much as the details that were known. I have been learning little by little from books, articles online, and reading other horary astrologers interpretations. There is so much to learn and I definitely still consider myself a student. That's why I say: don't take what I say as 100% true, because I am definitely capable of making mistakes as well as overlooking things.

Question: When is the Hierophant gonna show up?

This is already a tough one because he has a name, but it's not really his real name. I'm gonna look to the 7th house anyway, cuz it seems to be a relationship question.

I'm already seeing some problems in the beginning. Your main significators (sigs) are Venus and Saturn, both Rx. Saturn in H1 is already a classic sign that things are not going to work out as you wish. With both being Rx, I wonder if you are going to change your mind about something. He is primarily Mars in your house of sorrow (or a prison of sorts). That might be why?

You are also the moon which is in his house of sorrow/prison, but your house of illness, and very close conjunct Uranus (albeit in the past).

I dunno, but the only good I could see from any of that is that you've met in the hospital or something. I can't guess anything good out of those positions, they are all very unfortunate positions. Every single sig is in a cadent house. This is the weakest place. The cross is telling me that the issue will be resolved quickly.

The only really positive thing that I see here is that your Saturn is in an applying trine to the sun (general indicator of men, but also a sign that you are coming to see the light). It trines mutually in 1 degree which is a good indication that it will take place easily within one month. The Sun/Saturn trine is actually quite good I think because Saturn is exhalted and 1* from Spica, and the Sun is in it's joy in the 9th house as well as in it's own face.

There are just so many conflicting factors. The chart doesn't seem radical (fit to be judged), especially since there is Saturn Rx in H1, which is a classical rule saying that there will be serious delays and things will be messed up, etc...

I can't be certain with this chart. I have a feeling that the chart is doing the same thing your cards are doing and refusing to give you a definite answer

Sorry. I just can't say either way... but if the Sun/Saturn trine is in fact true, I would guess one month. (Could be one year but with a cardinal cross, that seems too long).

posted June 15, 2012 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by appleberry:
BECCATHELION:

No problem, I appreciate the free tarot reading (of which I know relatively nothing) online as well!

I came across some article about it online, then I asked someone a horary question as you are doing, and to my surprise an exact answer came out, with details that the people involved in the question could have known for sure. I was shocked not as much by the correctness of the answer as much as the details that were known. I have been learning little by little from books, articles online, and reading other horary astrologers interpretations. There is so much to learn and I definitely still consider myself a student. That's why I say: don't take what I say as 100% true, because I am definitely capable of making mistakes as well as overlooking things.

Question: When is the Hierophant gonna show up?

This is already a tough one because he has a name, but it's not really his real name. I'm gonna look to the 7th house anyway, cuz it seems to be a relationship question.

I'm already seeing some problems in the beginning. Your main significators (sigs) are Venus and Saturn, both Rx. Saturn in H1 is already a classic sign that things are not going to work out as you wish. With both being Rx, I wonder if you are going to change your mind about something. He is primarily Mars in your house of sorrow (or a prison of sorts). That might be why?

You are also the moon which is in his house of sorrow/prison, but your house of illness, and very close conjunct Uranus (albeit in the past).

I dunno, but the only good I could see from any of that is that you've met in the hospital or something. I can't guess anything good out of those positions, they are all very unfortunate positions. Every single sig is in a cadent house. This is the weakest place. The cross is telling me that the issue will be resolved quickly.

The only really positive thing that I see here is that your Saturn is in an applying trine to the sun (general indicator of men, but also a sign that you are coming to see the light). It trines mutually in 1 degree which is a good indication that it will take place easily within one month. The Sun/Saturn trine is actually quite good I think because Saturn is exhalted and 1* from Spica, and the Sun is in it's joy in the 9th house as well as in it's own face.

There are just so many conflicting factors. The chart doesn't seem radical (fit to be judged), especially since there is Saturn Rx in H1, which is a classical rule saying that there will be serious delays and things will be messed up, etc...

I can't be certain with this chart. I have a feeling that the chart is doing the same thing your cards are doing and refusing to give you a definite answer

Sorry. I just can't say either way... but if the Sun/Saturn trine is in fact true, I would guess one month. (Could be one year but with a cardinal cross, that seems too long).

Hope it was somehow helpful anyway!

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No, this absolutely was. It's definitely getting obscured. They won't tell me either; I just know recovery of some sort comes up with him each time. I just get curious, you know? I think the house of sorrow thing makes sense... pretty damn lonely and quite wiped out. I keep meeting people, strangely compatible people... and it keeps going poorly. It's a bad sense of want coupled with need, that gets out of hand. I forget to stop and smell the roses. To pay attention to what I should be learning in my single-ness. Focus on the positives, you know? Anyway. This is helpful. July has come up a few times before... who knows? We'll see. Thanks again so much, for this and the horary advice. I find it fascinating

posted June 16, 2012 04:26 PM            

Sorry, this is not a valid chart because you have used your own birth information rather than the birth time of the question. I assume you didn't ask this question for the first time in 1978...

If I asked a question for the first time right now, the time would be June 16, 2012 @ 2:24pm. And the place for the birth of that question would be the city in which I am sitting right now. Do you happen to have the exact date and time for when you asked that question? If not, it should be okay to ask it again.

posted June 18, 2012 01:32 AM            

Marriage itself, the significator is really early so I think it is too early to tell, and there are no aspects so there just isn't any action in that area right now. I think love must come first and then think about marriage. I think the marriage question might only be answered for you when you have a specific person in mind.

All your angles are mutable as well, so the whole situation from beginning to end is unstable and rapidly changing. I think this is also another indication that this is just a question that has too many possibilities with no specific person in mind. The only thing that is showing a possibility for this is that a young man brings the possibility. This could be someone he (future partner) works with, or it could be through some kind of secret dealings... through his work seems to come up stronger though.

Another problem I am just noting is that every single significator is either combust or very soon going to be combust. This is not a good sign. The sun is keeping you from seeing/finding each other. Sun is ruling your 12th house. This is the house of sorrow and depression. Perhaps you are in a state that is keeping him from noticing you because you are unhappy.

I will have another look at this one soon. It's quite late and I'm sure I haven't seen or said everything that I can.

posted June 18, 2012 05:43 AM            

I re-did the chart and asked the question that was on my mind.
If you don't have time, then don't no worries!!

But I'd like to know what will happen with us, why did he come into my life if it were not meant to be?

Thanks very very much!!!!!

posted June 18, 2012 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by cherful24:
I see. Then should I change my question? I am not dating anyone right now and my sadness is most likley from my ex. He was part of the oringal question when I first posted. (put then I re-asked with a new chart). So I guess the question doesnt make sense if i am not with anyone. Should I change the question and therefore do a new chart?

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Yes, it does affect the outcome of the chart if there was a different question that you were thinking that is not reflected in the question. If you were really wondering about the status of a past relationship, then this chart won't be radical (readable) at all.

I think it might be best to think very deeply about what is the most basic question that you are thinking, and that is the question you should ask. Maybe spend some time first and then ask another question. I hope it will be radical. They say that when you ask the same question more than once, only the first chart is radical, but you may ask the same question again when there are new circumstances.

No worries, I will do your chart again for you when we get it.

PS: please try to follow the info at the beginning of the thread for making a chart. Another thing is that Horary is based on traditional astrology, so the house system should be either Regionmontanus or Koch, plus I prefer to use Astrodienst style. Also Pars Fortuna and Fixed stars are always used in Horary, so they should be added.

posted June 18, 2012 07:40 PM            

My ex-hubbie left some time ago (9 months) we have been together for 9 years. I'm posting the chart for the time he left. He left between 18h30 and 19h00. I think it was nearer 18:30.

I'm posting our Horary Chart for the moment we started dating too, for your personal studies, since you now know that we have been 9 years together , I think it will help know our Horary Chart for the moment it all started. The chart for breaking apart seems nicer to me than the chart of when we went together lol.

My question for our Horary chart of breaking apart is if this is over, or what can I do to change this.

Our Horary Chart of the moment we started dating (the moment he gave me a red rose and it was official lol):

When he left:

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Thnx again

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