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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 16, 2012 09:56 PM
<<<< CLOSED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS >>>> **** Below are instructions for doing a horary chart- it is not the same as a natal chart**** _____________________________________________
HOW TO MAKE A HORARY CHART: _____________________________________________ 1. www.astro.com (you should have your own free account) 2. select MY ASTRO 3. select ADD NEW ASTRO DATA 4. first name= write your horary question here if you like/ choose EVENT/ all the other 'birth' information is the exact time and place that you asked the horary question 5. continue and on the next page you are taken to select FREE HOROSCOPES 6. select EXTENDED CHART SELECTION 7. on the Extended Chart Selection page, choose the following options: -Horoscope for: your horary question -type of chart: Natal -drawing style: Astrodienst Style (works best for me) -House System: Regiomontanus - Additional objects: I only use Pars Fortunae... I haven't read anything about anything else helping, except for other Arabic Parts. Putting all of the other asteroids can be too much. They don't really offer information that is reliable and too many objects makes the chart too small and hard to read. Less is more in this case. -Additional Asteroids: sometimes I will try to find the asteroid names for the people involved, especially the querent and quesited, or of the location if there is another location involved... just for interests sake. I've never read anything about this info being reliable for readings but I like to see it for myself. -MEAN NODE and SOME FIXED STARS give necessary information in Horary. _____________________________________________ Again, that's just how I do it, based on what I have learned so far... there might be others who can add more info, give another or better way... but this way at least gets the chart done. __ A great place to upload the image of the chart in order to post on this site is PHOTOBUCKET.com so you can just copy paste the link to Lindaland... easiest way to post I think. _______________________________________________ So this is how I do it but others may have some other tips or info that I hope they will add if they do! IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 23, 2012 03:18 PM
IMPORTANT:"It is pointless asking the same question twice as it will only produce an invalid horoscope on the second occasion. It is the horoscope that was drawn for the moment when the question was first asked that is the valid one. It is essential to keep a record of questions in order to avoid asking the same question or one very similar to it, twice, perhaps in a diary especially kept for horary." IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 28, 2012 03:03 AM
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posted June 02, 2012 10:07 PM
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EmpressMendez Moderator Posts: 7998 From: Brooklyn, New York Registered: May 2012
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posted June 02, 2012 10:47 PM
Hey, you said you will answer questions if we post them here? I'll give it a try lol.My question was will me and _ talk again? I definitely have to visit the astrology forum to see how people can tell if it's a yes or no. I want to start learning but at first all the information feels so overwhelming for me :P Thanks a lot :]
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Junethird Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 02, 2012 11:36 PM
THANK YOU!!! You are too kind. My question with a totally different person... what is going on... please let me know if i can give you a tarot reading at any given time. IP: Logged |
Julz87 Knowflake Posts: 1023 From: Over the Rainbow Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 03, 2012 01:32 AM
The school is in Lima..I leave July 18..classes start Sept 1.. and Im SO nervous. I have all my paperwork together now I need to get myself over there..I am hoping to get in because its really expensive for me to go back and forward. Theres so many squares and that makes me nervous :-/ Thank you. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20631 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2012 03:45 AM
I was sudenly wondering if he might be thinking of me (just like a flash through onés mind), not an unbearably important question, but I found this horary puzzling as my significator is Venus and the significator of his thinking (9th house) is also Venus. How does one interprete this? Also I see that I am in his fall (negative), but also in his triplicity (positive) and face (weak positive). How does one combine that?
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Elle_Scorpious Knowflake Posts: 100 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 05, 2012 10:57 AM
I'm currently in a relationship which i'm afraid to break up. When can i expect someone new to come in my life? What will that person be like? Anything, please... Thanx in advance
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Lexyr14 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Tucson,AZ,USA Registered: May 2012
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posted June 06, 2012 01:18 AM
This one is throwing me for a loop:[img]http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r556/Alexandria_Roses/astrologyhoraryq.gif[/gif] IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Moderator Posts: 7998 From: Brooklyn, New York Registered: May 2012
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posted June 06, 2012 08:45 PM
Hey, so you're not really giving horary readings??IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 10:02 PM
Empress Mendez: First of all, you're right, this stuff can be overwhelming... Horary can be so different from general astrology... that being said, I'm still in training, so take my words as you wish, but I'm happy for the opportunity to practice on your chart Question: "Will me and ___ talk again?"
I'm assuming this is a relationship question, and assuming the other person is a guy and you are female. If I'm wrong, this will probably be somewhat off. At first glance, it's not looking that great. Your sigs meet in a pleasant way but in the past. The problem is your significators are rx, both Saturn and Venus. This can mean that you might have a change of heart about things. I wonder if it has anything to do with Pluto being in your house of secrets...perhaps something will come to light that will make you want to withdraw from speaking to him. Your sigs are much weaker than his, hence you are in a weaker position than him. Your Venus is also combust with his sun in the 5th house of romance. You are very weak in this situation. Mercury, the natural ruler of your question about communication, is also combust the sun in the 5th house, very weak position, although dignified by being in it's own sign. It is also ruling the 5th house of romance. There are some connections between mercury and the sun, mercury and venus, and mercury and the moon, saturn and the moon, but they are in the past. There is a future connection between venus and the sun (mutually applying) and mercury and saturn, and saturn and the sun (trines, which is positive). The moon is also applying to the cusp of the AC, indicating an opportunity. Two other things to look at are the 11th (Jupiter) house and 3rd house (Mars) for hopes and communication respectively. Your main sig (Saturn) has no major aspects with either Jupiter or Mars, indicating that there will be no action in the areas of hopes and communication. The fact that the sig for communication is Mars in Virgo in the 8th house makes the type of communication that you would have look quite intense, and volatile, maybe this is why you would reconsider talking to him. The North node is in your house of hopes, indicating some workings of fate with regards to your hopes, but also in the area of romance for him. Honestly, I think although there are contradicting indications of whether the communication will happen or not (this sometimes means that you actually had a stronger question in mind that you didn't ask but were thinking), that there is a possibility that you would talk again, but you might change your mind. Venus rx applying to the sun in the 5th can sometimes mean a realization about a relationship, things literally coming to light. Hope that was helpful...there are some other things to look at that are more in depth that I didn't get to but I don't think they affected much. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Moderator Posts: 7998 From: Brooklyn, New York Registered: May 2012
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posted June 06, 2012 11:45 PM
You are very good, especially about things coming to light and everything being almost related and stuck in the past. I wish I could do this! lol, you make it look soo easy I know, he's always so angry with me, but I'm not 100% sure whyyy or where it stems from really..I often wonder and think it might be something with our past..maybe that was the question I had in mind when I casted this chart. Yes I feel like he's a bully sometimes since he's angry at me a lot..it puzzles me. At times I think I'm completely forgetting him and I was until April when he sent me a message which was highly unexpected from him since he said he didn't want to speak to me ever again. It was shocking and opened old wounds I had. I was starting to get "over" him. My feelings for him were stronger in the past they are weakening now but it fluctuates. Some days I can't stop thinking about him while others I couldn't care less. Almost a whole month without caring but then it comes back and hits me like a ton of bricks in the face and I start constantly thinking about him again. It goes in circles on and on .. like a vicious cycle that has no end Thank you so much and you may be right the chances of us speaking again are slim to none, although he surprised me in April when he popped out of the blue..uninvited..(Adele) lol.
Thanks!! quote: Originally posted by appleberry: Empress Mendez: First of all, you're right, this stuff can be overwhelming... Horary can be so different from general astrology... that being said, I'm still in training, so take my words as you wish, but I'm happy for the opportunity to practice on your chart Question: "Will me and ___ talk again?"
I'm assuming this is a relationship question, and assuming the other person is a guy and you are female. If I'm wrong, this will probably be somewhat off. At first glance, it's not looking that great. Your sigs meet in a pleasant way but in the past. The problem is your significators are rx, both Saturn and Venus. This can mean that you might have a change of heart about things. I wonder if it has anything to do with Pluto being in your house of secrets...perhaps something will come to light that will make you want to withdraw from speaking to him. Your sigs are much weaker than his, hence you are in a weaker position than him. Your Venus is also combust with his sun in the 5th house of romance. You are very weak in this situation. Mercury, the natural ruler of your question about communication, is also combust the sun in the 5th house, very weak position, although dignified by being in it's own sign. It is also ruling the 5th house of romance. There are some connections between mercury and the sun, mercury and venus, and mercury and the moon, saturn and the moon, but they are in the past. There is a future connection between venus and the sun (mutually applying) and mercury and saturn, and saturn and the sun (trines, which is positive). The moon is also applying to the cusp of the AC, indicating an opportunity. Two other things to look at are the 11th (Jupiter) house and 3rd house (Mars) for hopes and communication respectively. Your main sig (Saturn) has no major aspects with either Jupiter or Mars, indicating that there will be no action in the areas of hopes and communication. The fact that the sig for communication is Mars in Virgo in the 8th house makes the type of communication that you would have look quite intense, and volatile, maybe this is why you would reconsider talking to him. The North node is in your house of hopes, indicating some workings of fate with regards to your hopes, but also in the area of romance for him. Honestly, I think although there are contradicting indications of whether the communication will happen or not (this sometimes means that you actually had a stronger question in mind that you didn't ask but were thinking), that there is a possibility that you would talk again, but you might change your mind. Venus rx applying to the sun in the 5th can sometimes mean a realization about a relationship, things literally coming to light. Hope that was helpful...there are some other things to look at that are more in depth that I didn't get to but I don't think they affected much.
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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 12:29 AM
JuneThird: Lol... I think I posted a question in your yes/no tarot readings already... thank you!Question: "What is going on?" I assume this is a relationship question with you, a female, and another, a male. If I'm wrong, this will not be a correct reading. I am also going to ignore the asteroids, just because I don't have any training with asteroids in horary and they whole system of horary is traditional, not using the asteroids at all... I'm going to read this question a little differently, because of the position of the moon. The moon has landed in the house of your hopes and wishes, this is where your mind is at. Your hopes are ruled by Mars in the 8th house in intercepted Virgo. This is a moderately weak position, but it is in the terms of Jupiter, and the face of Venus, which is helpful. Mars and the 8th house can both be sexual placements, but also intense, with complications and friction. So, this is probably describing the situation in some way. I said I wouldn't look at the other asteroids but when the moons node is at the same degree as something, it warns of tragedy. It is at the same degree as Eros. So this is another indication of sexuality in this chart, but it's warning you against it. You also have Jupiter and the South Node in the 5th house of romance- Jupiter alone is a good note but the south node marks self undoing. Their being conjunct is not a good sign. All of your significators: Saturn, Pluto, and Venus are all retrograde. This can signify your weakness, your return to something or that you will change your mind about this. Both Saturn and Venus are also cadent. Venus is combust. These are also signs of your weakness in this situation. Pluto is quite close to your AC, another marker of the intensity of the situation for you. Perhaps this and the Mars in the 8th are just marking how deeply this is affecting you. With markers in the 6th house, I wonder if this has something to do with work. Someone you are working with? Someone you are working with again? If this is another person who belongs to the 7th house, then the sig is the moon and it is in his 5th house of fun and romance. If this does happen to be some kind of romantic affair, I would say that it is just that for him, fun. In the end, what you want doesn't seem to be realized in this chart. There does seem to be a little bit of positive connection in a while, but mostly this is not supportive. Overall, I think there are possibilities to get something out of this situation, but it doesn't look like it is going to be what you want- this may be why you have the rx on all of your sigs, they may make you change your mind about it or regret it in the end, whatever it is. One thing I didnt mention earlier is that the moon is minutes into a new house. Something about this situation is very new. But it is fairly near the end of it's sign so it doesn't have long to play out the story (guessing 6 months but it's just a guess). It is in Scorpio, another marker for sexuality and intensity. But the moon is in fall in Scorpio so that might weaken the situation. Another bad thing about putting all those asteroids in there is that they make the chart too small. I can't see the numbers so I can't see what is happening. There is more that I could read, but I literally can't see it because it is too small. That is all for now. Hope it was helpful! IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 12:39 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EmpressMendez: April when he sent me a message which was highly unexpected from him since he said he didn't want to speak to me ever again. It was shocking and opened old wounds I had. I was starting to get "over" him. My feelings for him were stronger in the past they are weakening now but it fluctuates. Some days I can't stop thinking about him while others I couldn't care less. Almost a whole month without caring but then it comes back and hits me like a ton of bricks in the face and I start constantly thinking about him again. It goes in circles on and on .. like a vicious cycle that has no end [QUOTE] Thank you so much for the feed back because it helps me do this better. Regarding the above that you wrote. Be careful. It is Venus Retrograde right now. This is typical for Venus Rx. There have also been some Solar and Lunar Eclipses lately. At the very least, do some reading on Venus Rx because you should beware of both his and your actions/feelings because this is a passing thing. Your feelings could change again (and his) when Venus goes direct again. Good luck. Hmm... I probably didn't think about the fact that he is moon in Scorpio. He's pretty intense probably. And his dispositor is in the 8th house none the less... much intensity. I've found that intense people tend to hold onto others via sexuality. Beware if this was hard to leave. IP: Logged |
Junethird Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 12:54 AM
So in conlcusion... I will regret quitting my job? And i will go back to it and then come to regret it. Or quitting was the right move? Ok i will go and answer your question on the yes/no thread.
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Junethird Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 01:02 AM
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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 01:06 AM
Julz87: Question:"Will I get into Uigv?" Well, I am going to look at the 9th house for this question concerning education. Sometimes it can be considered a contract because of your wording, but because your moon showed up in the 9th, I think that is what concerns you the most... will you actually receive your education there. First, your main significator is rx. This is really not a good sign about a travel question, because it often means that you will return if you go, it could just mean regret or change of mind... This is happening in the 8th house marking your deep thoughts about this but the good thing is that you are conjunct Spica and this is capable of protecting you. If you are female, then Venus is also you and it is rx too... doubly negative. It is also combust and in the 4th house of the home. Weak, seeing the light and returning home. This is not really good. I noticed as well that the cross is fixed showing that this situation is not easily going to change. But also the moon is in a positive separating aspect with your significator, possibly showing that the situation has already been done and maybe you just don't know it yet. I am not sure, but it is a positive, albeit minor aspect. It doesn't look good that the moon is in fall in Scorpio, at the end of the house and will oppose Jupiter right after it leaves its house. Jupiter is a natural ruler for higher learning as well as foreign travel. Mars is ruling the education abroad. It is in the 7th house which is considered the relocation place for you. It's not connecting well with you. No connection indicates that nothing will happen. Neptune and Uranus are also included as your significators in modern horary. There are some pleasant applications there, a good sign. But there are also some unpleasant. The problem is that most of them are after the moon leaves it's house and sign. I am hoping that this is only describing you leaving the country soon. Overall, most things are pointing to this not working out okay and you returning if you do go, especially if you are female. You don't have to take my words too seriously as I am only learning horary and there is always the possibility that I am wrong for many reasons, but my advice is to try to contact this school, especially via a friend who knows the culture and language well to find out if you have been accepted. Good luck! Hope this was helpful! IP: Logged |
Julz87 Knowflake Posts: 1023 From: Over the Rainbow Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 07:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by appleberry: Julz87: Question:"Will I get into Uigv?" Well, I am going to look at the 9th house for this question concerning education. Sometimes it can be considered a contract because of your wording, but because your moon showed up in the 9th, I think that is what concerns you the most... will you actually receive your education there. First, your main significator is rx. This is really not a good sign about a travel question, because it often means that you will return if you go, it could just mean regret or change of mind... This is happening in the 8th house marking your deep thoughts about this but the good thing is that you are conjunct Spica and this is capable of protecting you. If you are female, then Venus is also you and it is rx too... doubly negative. It is also combust and in the 4th house of the home. Weak, seeing the light and returning home. This is not really good. I noticed as well that the cross is fixed showing that this situation is not easily going to change. But also the moon is in a positive separating aspect with your significator, possibly showing that the situation has already been done and maybe you just don't know it yet. I am not sure, but it is a positive, albeit minor aspect. It doesn't look good that the moon is in fall in Scorpio, at the end of the house and will oppose Jupiter right after it leaves its house. Jupiter is a natural ruler for higher learning as well as foreign travel. Mars is ruling the education abroad. It is in the 7th house which is considered the relocation place for you. It's not connecting well with you. No connection indicates that nothing will happen. Neptune and Uranus are also included as your significators in modern horary. There are some pleasant applications there, a good sign. But there are also some unpleasant. The problem is that most of them are after the moon leaves it's house and sign. I am hoping that this is only describing you leaving the country soon. Overall, most things are pointing to this not working out okay and you returning if you do go, especially if you are female. You don't have to take my words too seriously as I am only learning horary and there is always the possibility that I am wrong for many reasons, but my advice is to try to contact this school, especially via a friend who knows the culture and language well to find out if you have been accepted. Good luck! Hope this was helpful!
Hmm thank you appleberry, I will deff contact the school today. As far as language and environment well all my family is there my dad as well..and the main language is Spanish which I'm fluent. I grandma just bought me a home there for me and construction is already completed on the first floor so all those things are ok it's just the school that worries me
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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 02:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Julz87: Hmm thank you appleberry, I will deff contact the school today. As far as language and environment well all my family is there my dad as well..and the main language is Spanish which I'm fluent. I grandma just bought me a home there for me and construction is already completed on the first floor so all those things are ok it's just the school that worries me
Your opportunity sounds great! I looked over your chart to see if there is more I can say. I overlooked that Part of Fortune is exact conjunct Fixed Star Regulus. That's an extremely positive sign. If we look at H3 instead, looking at the situation as a contract, that significator is also Retrograde... but at least, if we look at H7 as the school administrators in connection with H3, it is Sun vs Venus Rx... both in Gemini, representing a contract...but separating which would mean that the acceptance already took place... In the case of contracts, retrograde can mean renegotiation. But I can't see how a school application would have anything to renegotiate...hmmm...but your sig and the contract are also in a separating trine... but I guess that's just talking about you completing the application... Hmmm... I've had situations where I've read my own charts and there was rx on my sig and I just couldn't see myself changing my mind, but in the end I did... I surprised myself but I read my chart correctly... so maybe this will happen here... it keeps coming back to an rx on your side... IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 02:18 PM
JuneThird:I guess I read it wrong. I guessed it was a relationship question but there was something completely different on your mind. Let me look at it again for a second. In short, it does look like you will reconsider, because of finances. It might be too late if you've already quit your job but you will probably face some challenges in a few weeks to months. IP: Logged |
Junethird Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 02:46 PM
It's not too late. But if I postpone quitting will I regret it? Challenges In What area?IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 03:03 PM
Ceridwen: Question: "Is he thinking of me?" I guess as the reader yourself, Saturn in H1 was the reason it was giving you trouble.
Looking at it at a glance, I as well can't understand why the moon is in the 3rd house. Is there something else you might have been asking deep down? It's already hard for me to understand because it doesn't seem radical. First, you are Venus Rx is (in the terms of Venus, but combust) in his 3rd house in Gemini (though intercepted so not as strong) and your moon is in your 3rd house (in it's joy)... so much is pointing to communication that maybe what you were really wondering is if you are going to communicate again, or if he was thinking of contacting you? He's in your H12, (his 6th... maybe he was at work) maybe causing you sorrow, but also your house of secret enemies. Your sigs have an applying square at 0 degrees, meaning the challenge was happening at the time of the question. His sig is in Virgo the house of Venus' fall... this would mean that he is not receiving you well. But he is in the triplicity of Venus and the exaltation of Mercury. My guess would be that he could be thinking of you but it wouldn't be in a positive way. He's Mars in Virgo... sounds like a hard working macho kind of guy... but also a bit cold and critical? Your sigs also have applications to the moon. His a square (challenge) and yours a sextile (opportunity), and opposition (separation). I guess whatever this is really about, there are some things to come quickly. There moon will also meet a separation with Mercury... The only thing I can think is that if you do communicate, the communication will end but you'll be better for it. Your hopes are shown by the sun, also in the house of his communication. Your main sig is conjunct but combust the sun. You are weak from what you want. Mercury is also conjunct but combust the sun. Maybe the communication would not be positive because it is not strong. (The sun is also a co-sig for him... giving him more power in this situation- he is the one who weakens you and the communication).
Ultimately, if he was thinking of you or thinking of talking to you, which I think is possible from the chart, it wasn't in the way that you wanted. It doesn't look pleasant. Maybe your sigs are rx because you realize that if you did talk or if he did think about you, he's not in a place to think about you/talk to you in a way that would be pleasant for you... so what's the point... better not to, right?
Anyway, hope this was helpful!
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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 03:29 PM
Elle_Scorpious: Question: "Is there a new person coming to me?" I'm going to look at this as a 5th house question. It is a relationship question but not flat out. It seems to be asked as looking for joy and romance, not partnership or anything deeper. So you are: Mars in Virgo (16*) in H11 The romance/new person is: Jupiter in Taurus (28*) in H8 First of all, Jupiter is in a kind of sexual house and sensual sign, so I suppose that's a good sign if you are looking for that kind of romance... Jupiter is already a positive indicator for such a significator. It's at the very end of Taurus though so soon the environment will change. The moon has also just entered a new house and a new sign, but in detriment and mutually applying to Pluto. Something about this situation makes me think that you have fairly recently ended a relationship and are at that point where you are lost and in between. The AC is also quite early so that is another indicator that this is a new situation. The moon squares Uranus in 7 degrees (7 days, weeks, or months?) in H5... this is your house of romance and this is talking about events to come- something sudden and unexpected. It's also in Aries, the other sign ruled by your sig. So I think Uranus is going to play a part in this. The fact that it is in a cardinal sign makes me think it will progress faster, so maybe only 7 weeks... The angles are all fixed too so it will not be easy to change this situation, what is coming, is coming... I can't say exactly why it's bothering me but the ruler of H7 and H12 are both Venus Rx in H8 close combust to the Sun. I hope this doesn't have anything to do with returning to a past romance, which is totally possible with transit venus rx affecting everybody right now and making people go back to past romances and dig up old wounds to fix... Ultimately the two main sigs are trining in 12 degrees, so it could be that something pleasant will come in about 12 days/weeks/months. I think the situation you want to come will come but there is some old business to deal with first and it won't likely be completely pleasant. Hope that helps!
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seeker3030 Knowflake Posts: 828 From: UK Registered: Dec 2009
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posted June 07, 2012 07:42 PM
Hi appleberry and thanks so much for the kind offer to do this! The question for this chart is is it completely over between MW and me? IP: Logged | |