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Topic: Have you guys ever used a psychic service?
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EmpressMendez
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posted May 20, 2014 04:42 AM
  
This is a business. I won't give a refund at the end of the reading to someone AFTER I make a connection, and they willingly AGREE to continue. That's a SCAM "client" to me. Doesn't like to hear the truth, so they turn around RIGHT at the END of the reading and say NOTHING makes sense. You just told me we had a connection at the beginning of the reading, but when you run out of funds completely all of a sudden everything is off? Another one of my peeves. People who go to readers, but cannot accept facts. Especially if it's a FUTURE PREDICTION..why give a neg. rating to something that hasn't yet happened..at all?? AND unlike many others on Bitwine, I actually try not to waste money by allowing any unclear questions about the reading to be sent through me via private msg. where I can clearly clarify anything I have written throughout the reading. I clearly give that option to everyone. Not sure why that person did what they did to me, but I wish I could show everyone the transcript just to show everyone how shady this person is/turned out to be in the end of the reading. She then quickly exed the chat..I private msgd her twice about it, but she still wants to continue lying. ------------------
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EmpressMendez
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posted May 20, 2014 04:49 AM
If you cannot afford 15, 2, 4 dollars per min readings, then do not go to those people if you think they aren't worth it. This is a regular job..this is my only job. It isn't easy, some days I make ZERO DOLLARS, fyi. If it wasn't for my family's support, I wouldn't be able to do this.Hoping to build a living off of this, but don't assume we're making a fortune (at least I know I'm not). ------------------
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minimini
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posted May 20, 2014 05:08 AM
Azul, i do understand what you meant.
when i get the reading from miss ann; she may need like 1 min. to lay out her spread and then she can start explaining everything. i think tarot is different. as a client i really do not expect connection before start reading.however if i get a reading from a clairvoyant, then i will definitely wait for them to tell me something before i go hire....
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minimini
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posted May 20, 2014 05:11 AM
someone here asked if any psychic could 'sense' the person you asked is married/with someone...i tried Jennifer Louise Hay; she can. 2 times (2 different men) accurately. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted May 20, 2014 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by minimini:
Azul, i do understand what you meant.
when i get the reading from miss ann; she may need like 1 min. to lay out her spread and then she can start explaining everything. i think tarot is different. as a client i really do not expect connection before start reading.however if i get a reading from a clairvoyant, then i will definitely wait for them to tell me something before i go hire....
This is true. I use my clairvoyance, or anything else with Tarot (gifts) only as well. And I am slow when it comes to "natural" abilities (feeling it myself without tools). Unless it's strong..I sometimes can pick up feelings of nervousness, intoxication, etc but Idk how to control it! It just happens naturally. ------------------
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minimini
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posted May 20, 2014 06:26 AM
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
This is true. I use my clairvoyance, or anything else with Tarot (gifts) only as well. And I am slow when it comes to "natural" abilities (feeling it myself without tools). Unless it's strong..I sometimes can pick up feelings of nervousness, intoxication, etc but Idk how to control it! It just happens naturally.
and i did get a reading from you and i was happy with it.
the 2 issues you were spot on... IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted May 20, 2014 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by minimini:
and i did get a reading from you and i was happy with it.
the 2 issues you were spot on...
Happy to help you out. This is how I meant it..I NEED Tarot or a "tool" in order to use a gift. But not to "feel" another person's feelings (which I pick up frequently and have a hard time differing from my own, which is why I tend to stay away from ppl.. a lot, BUT it doesn't matter because I can pick up feelings online, too) Like this lady says here..she doesn't like using Tarot because for her it doesn't feel natural with her gift, to me Tarot just feels natural to use with .. different strokes for different folks  http://www.realclairvoyantpsychic.com/psychic-tools-tarot-cards-runes/ ------------------
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happyaskings
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posted May 20, 2014 10:07 AM
I wasn't talking about you. I have to say you are one of VERY few that connect first. I can honestly count on one hand those that connect first and actually verify that connection with the client. Most stall those first 3 mins and go straight to hire after getting a name/dob. I don't doubt there are clients that try to scam but I think the psychic ration on that is higher.I've only ever gotten 1 refund the entire time I've been on bitwine... From Angel Loren I didn't ask for it I just left her a neutral review and she got ****** lol. She charges 16$ a min now...I saw an ad for her...interesting. Other than that it's just not worth the hassle to me and if they were accurate about the situation (Sandie) it makes the credible. Still if they don't offer refunds and go straight to hire beware! IP: Logged |
happyaskings
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posted May 20, 2014 10:15 AM
Also I wasn't saying that clients are broke and cannot afford readings. Most of us have pretty decenct income to be able to PAY 2$ a min. Just saying that for some of these readers making $100 in 10 minutes of work is outrageous. It just greed and borders on laziness to me.IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted May 20, 2014 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
I wasn't talking about you. I have to say you are one of VERY few that connect first. I can honestly count on one hand those that connect first and actually verify that connection with the client. Most stall those first 3 mins and go straight to hire after getting a name/dob. I don't doubt there are clients that try to scam but I think the psychic ration on that is higher.I've only ever gotten 1 refund the entire time I've been on bitwine... From Angel Loren I didn't ask for it I just left her a neutral review and she got ****** lol. She charges 16$ a min now...I saw an ad for her...interesting. Other than that it's just not worth the hassle to me and if they were accurate about the situation (Sandie) it makes the credible. Still if they don't offer refunds and go straight to hire beware!
Yes, I know..I was just venting, sorry. ------------------
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EmpressMendez
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posted May 20, 2014 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
Also I wasn't saying that clients are broke and cannot afford readings. Most of us have pretty decenct income to be able to PAY 2$ a min. Just saying that for some of these readers making $100 in 10 minutes of work is outrageous. It just greed and borders on laziness to me.
I agree. We also have to pay commissions and some of us advertisement + anything else that involves spirituality. Crystals, cards, candles, all of that adds up. I have an altar I have to maintain and keep up with..very expensive, but it's part of my religion and beliefs. Part of my job..so that all adds up..but yes, I agree anything more than 5 dollars per min. is just too much imo..but we also don't know what those people are going through in their lives. Maybe they feel their gift is worth it..they are using their energies, and also may be their only source of income as well. If know4sure is that popular and good, then maybe she is indeed worth it. I personally would not try it though because I cannot afford it at all. ------------------
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happyaskings
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posted May 20, 2014 10:18 AM
But the whole $0 some days makes sense as to why the prices are $2-3 a min especially when bitwine takes a fraction. That price I understand respect. I have NO respect for $15 a minute!IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted May 20, 2014 11:05 AM
DP, but let me go before filleaspirant comes with the belt.  This is why I left the thread yesterday. IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted May 20, 2014 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
Also I wasn't saying that clients are broke and cannot afford readings. Most of us have pretty decenct income to be able to PAY 2$ a min. Just saying that for some of these readers making $100 in 10 minutes of work is outrageous. It just greed and borders on laziness to me.
Why is somebody else's success unfair?! People think I make a lot. I went to college for a reason, not to make $10/hr or $20/hr. I'm actually tryna double my salary in 5 years like I did this past 5 years and sometimes it only takes me an hour to do what my boss thinks should take all day. If that makes me a greedy bast*rd, that's fine. As long as my money is green on the 15th and the 30th!!! ------------------
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MinceyMouse
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posted May 20, 2014 12:12 PM
Sounds a bit sanctimonious, imo. If a person (a psychic) is:1- good
2- precise
3- accurate
4- fast
5- within your means I don't see a problem. This thread is here to judge a psychic on 1-5 and to help people make an educated choice. No one is forcing anyone. Passing judgement on it seems petty. 2 mins of a very good read beats a 15 min read any day. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted May 20, 2014 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Why is somebody else's success unfair?! People think I make a lot. I went to college for a reason, not to make $10/hr or $20/hr. I'm actually tryna double my salary in 5 years like I did this past 5 years and sometimes it only takes me an hour to do what my boss thinks should take all day. If that makes me a greedy bast*rd, that's fine. As long as my money is green on the 15th and the 30th!!!
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happyaskings
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posted May 20, 2014 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Why is somebody else's success unfair?! People think I make a lot. I went to college for a reason, not to make $10/hr or $20/hr. I'm actually tryna double my salary in 5 years like I did this past 5 years and sometimes it only takes me an hour to do what my boss thinks should take all day. If that makes me a greedy bast*rd, that's fine. As long as my money is green on the 15th and the 30th!!!
And I'm assuming you work longer than 10 mins for your money...you are taking this too personally. I'm not berating anyone's success, and I did not once use the word "unfair". I'm saying charging that amount for the time/energy is outrageous and greedy. Blowing this out of proportion. IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted May 20, 2014 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
And I'm assuming you work longer than 10 mins for your money...you are taking this too personally. I'm not berating anyone's success, and I did not once use the word "unfair". I'm saying charging that amount for the time/energy is outrageous and greedy. Blowing this out of proportion.
Greedy, unfair... Whatever. I'm not taking it personally. I'm considering this notion that high prices or income is greedy. And actually, sometimes I'm home on a laptop ain't worked 10 min at all and still got paid. Or did a 10 min query and tht was it. People get paid for no-show jobs. Why psychics should charge "reasonable" prices because it's supposed to be some "god-given opportunity to help people" (figurative quotes) when doctors are charging $200 for a 10 min checkup and it's the same concept is beyond me. Should Princeton cut their prices?! Should the close their doors?! Are the greedy? Bill Gates makes $500/min. Why shouldn't she?! Or me?! How'd he say it on House?! "You can portray me as a rich bast*rd ...all you want. Just as long as I stay rich" You post your price, people pay it. She's not pick-pocketing old ladies. IP: Logged |
happyaskings
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posted May 20, 2014 04:40 PM
You're on some kind of salary/contract meaning you also could get screwed at times and work 80 hr weeks. It's up to the company to decide if you're getting your fair share/putting in work.I get what you're saying but I still think it's greedy. Tiger Woods makes ungodly amounts of money a minute and while I wouldn't call it "greedy", yeah I do think it's kinda messed up that an athlete makes more than our educators/doctors/etc. Do I hate Tiger bc he makes money? No. I am NOT saying he SHOULDN'T be a MILLIONAIRE. I'm not knocking anyone for being successful or making money. I am calling psychics that are taking advantage of people in less than desirable situations charging $15 a minute greedy and perhaps unethical depending on the situation. You're not gonna change my mind on that. USA is in the (becoming smaller) percentage of countries that is still charging for education so don't even get me started on that. Bill Gates created something the entire world uses for pretty much everything...him and his team can have their money lol that's really not what this is about though You're arguing semantics here and completely missing the point. Also where do you go that doctors are charging $20 a min? Christ.... IP: Logged |
MinceyMouse
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posted May 20, 2014 05:51 PM
It's a job. You work on it until you're worth your salt. It takes time and energy. Honing your god given gifts is no different. It's taken me 2 yrs to get where I am spiritually. Over 8 years of studying ect to where I am. Doctors do charge 20 bucks a minute if you're inclined to break it down. Law firm senior partners charge more. When has profit generation been a bad thing? I think when Jonah replied here, he had defended his rates. Frankly my time is precious, I can charge what I like. Do ethics come into play? Maybe. I can do things outside reading to repent/give back to society. If you cannot afford it, don't buy it. If you can, live and let live. IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted May 20, 2014 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
You're on some kind of salary/contract meaning you also could get screwed at times and work 80 hr weeks. It's up to the company to decide if you're getting your fair share/putting in work.I get what you're saying but I still think it's greedy. Tiger Woods makes ungodly amounts of money a minute and while I wouldn't call it "greedy", yeah I do think it's kinda messed up that an athlete makes more than our educators/doctors/etc. Do I hate Tiger bc he makes money? No. I am NOT saying he SHOULDN'T be a MILLIONAIRE. I'm not knocking anyone for being successful or making money. [b] I am calling psychics that are taking advantage of people in less than desirable situations charging $15 a minute greedy and perhaps unethical depending on the situation. You're not gonna change my mind on that. USA is in the (becoming smaller) percentage of countries that is still charging for education so don't even get me started on that. Bill Gates created something the entire world uses for pretty much everything...him and his team can have their money lol that's really not what this is about though You're arguing semantics here and completely missing the point. Also where do you go that doctors are charging $20 a min? Christ....[/B]
1)I worked for a major pharma global giant. When the Sunshine act goes in affect, you'll see that YOUR doctor makes $20/min.
2)Bill Gates didn't create anything. He bought DOS off a college kid for $80 and dropped out of college.
3)I see you're counting my money now and have no clue what you're talking about because I am NOT salaried.
4)Athletes are paid based on what the public is willing to pay to watch them. The money isn't coming out of thin air
5) Listen carefully. You're a hater. That is all. ------------------
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happyaskings
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posted May 20, 2014 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by happyaskings:
[b]You're on some kind of salary/contract meaning you also could get screwed at times and work 80 hr weeks. It's up to the company to decide if you're getting your fair share/putting in work.I get what you're saying but I still think it's greedy. Tiger Woods makes ungodly amounts of money a minute and while I wouldn't call it "greedy", yeah I do think it's kinda messed up that an athlete makes more than our educators/doctors/etc. Do I hate Tiger bc he makes money? No. I am NOT saying he SHOULDN'T be a MILLIONAIRE. I'm not knocking anyone for being successful or making money. [b] I am calling psychics that are taking advantage of people in less than desirable situations charging $15 a minute greedy and perhaps unethical depending on the situation. You're not gonna change my mind on that. USA is in the (becoming smaller) percentage of countries that is still charging for education so don't even get me started on that. Bill Gates created something the entire world uses for pretty much everything...him and his team can have their money lol that's really not what this is about though You're arguing semantics here and completely missing the point. Also where do you go that doctors are charging $20 a min? Christ....[/B]
1)I worked for a major pharma global giant. When the Sunshine act goes in affect, you'll see that YOUR doctor makes $20/min.
2)Bill Gates didn't create anything. He bought DOS off a college kid for $80 and dropped out of college.
3)I see you're counting my money now and have no clue what you're talking about because I am NOT salaried.
4)Athletes are paid based on what the public is willing to pay to watch them. The money isn't coming out of thin air
5) Listen carefully. You're a hater. That is all. [/B][/QUOTE] I would classify Bill Gates and Paul Allen as creators/founders/whatever you want to call it. I stated pretty clearly that I have no problem with athletes making millions. I wasn't "counting your money" I was making the assumption that you busted ass to get where you are. You previously mentioned that you went to uni so I don't think I'm wrong on that.
How am I a hater? Your failing to even see my argument and you think I'm upset about people making money. Everyone makes money. And again I clearly stated I have no problem with them making money. I'm talking about the ethics of online psychics. You got butthurt because I called psychics charging those rates greedy. They are. IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted May 20, 2014 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
I would classify Bill Gates and Paul Allen as creators/founders/whatever you want to call it. I stated pretty clearly that I have no problem with athletes making millions. I wasn't "counting your money" I was making the assumption that you busted ass to get where you are. You previously mentioned that you went to uni so I don't think I'm wrong on that.
How am I a hater? Your failing to even see my argument and you think I'm upset about people making money. Everyone makes money. And again I clearly stated I have no problem with them making money. I'm talking about the ethics of online psychics. You got butthurt because I called psychics charging those rates greedy. They are.
Ok. So don't go John Q if you need a heart transplant. This is only about psychics who post their fees UPFRONT.
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happyaskings
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posted May 20, 2014 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Ok. So don't go John Q if you need a heart transplant. This is only about psychics who post their fees UPFRONT.
This is a psychic thread, ya dingus! I was only discussing psychics in the first place....you're the one that started bring other money makers into the equation. If I was going to post my opinion on everything else, I'd cry about it on tumblr. I was giving an opinion on psychics taking advantage...actually initially I was just adding to what Crimson said about being careful with psychics that over charge w/o refunds being shady. It escalated, as usual.
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LoadedPistil
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posted May 20, 2014 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
This is a psychic thread, ya dingus! I was only discussing psychics in the first place....you're the one that started bring other money makers into the equation. If I was going to post my opinion on everything else, I'd cry about it on tumblr. I was giving an opinion on psychics taking advantage...actually initially I was just adding to what Crimson said about being careful with psychics that over charge w/o refunds being shady. It escalated, as usual.
I was being sarcastic. I still think you're a hater Why you think me being successful has anything to do with being salaried is beyond me and I'll leave it there. Can't be taken advantage of if you don't pay.
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