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Knowflake

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posted August 04, 2012 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I'd start a new thread so as not to interfered with the game thread. I wanted to comment further on your situation and thought it best to do it in a new thread. Below is our exchange that prompted the conversation:

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posted August 04, 2012 06:32 AM

I asked what's in store for this weekend. Great. ugh.

I leave ... I'm going to pull three cards:

Four of Cups flipped over, and I pulled the 9 of Pentacles and the Page of Pentacles Reversed.

My interpretation of the cards to hopefully help the querent answer their question:

The Page Wands Reversed is surrounded by beautiful things but is refusing to see the wonderful and beautiful things she has before her. She seeks advice from others to ease her woes but refuses to accept this advise. She seeks opinions of others in order to feel happy and free but she refuses to consider them. She continues to seek from others what will help her without realizing that the only one who can help her is her, and she has what she seeks already, she simply needs to choose to see it. She is leaning toward self-indulgent in pity and needs to center herself and see the beauty around her for she is surrounded with beautiful and wonderful things. Our thoughts manifest into our realities, so choose your thoughts wisely and think clearly and positively otherwise the negative you continue to focus on will become more of a reality in all your experiences, work, home, friends, relationships,etc., and everything. Choose to BE POSITIVE.

I pulled a clarifying card and it was the 5 of Pentacles Reversed.

Your thoughts are of despair and that is your focus. This can only lead to instability and financial traumas. Get yourself centered. Focus on what is positive in your life and what is right. Your worries will (or may already have) turned to lack of initiative and this will create misfortune and further heartache.

Best to you.

Good luck if it is you as well as if it is someone dear to you.

Your reply was:

posted August 04, 2012 07:18 AM
[QUOTE]I lost my job in a unfair way, by boss was abusive, and there was a moral siege (sorry, dont know the right words in english). I got into depression because of this and because my ex left. Ever since I lost my job I've been applying for job offers in that company, but other departments, since it's where I've worked for most of my life but I feel i wont ever be accepted back, not because of me, but because the way my boss has done "stuff". She spoiled my career there.

I've found for the first time a job offer in that same department but to work with another boss, so I asked here if I should apply for it and got King of Swords, that I asked if I could be prejudiced by applying for that offer and got your cards..


Phoenix,

I am so sorry for what you have been through. I'm sure your ex-boss' egregious actions have caused your great amounts of grief. Don't think about the horrible things she did to you for Karma always finds it's way back to the source, good or bad, it always comes back around.

So you are struggling with despairing thoughts due to financials. That sucks. I am so sorry.

However, the cards were clear, you have good things right before you. So, maybe there is something you're not seeing?

I'll pull a few more cards and see what I get. Be back soon.

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Knowflake

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posted August 04, 2012 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did a CC spread for you. I'm sharing the cards with you now as I am working on the interpretation. I will post it when I am complete.

I believe what you are not seeing through this entire situation is the lesson you are supposed to learn. More when I've finished the interpretation.

Significator: King of Cups
Situation: X (10) of Wands Reversed
Challenge: The Hermit
Focus: Page of Wands Reversed
Viel: III (3) Swords
Past Energy: Judgement
Present/Furture Energy: III (3) of Cups Reversed
Your View: the World Reversed
How you are seen: IX (9) Pentacles Reversed
Advise/Hopes/Fears: [b]V (5) Wands

Outcome: IV (4) Wands Reversed
12th Card: Ace of Pentacles Reversed

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Knowflake

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posted August 04, 2012 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phoenix 08.04.12 Reading.

Saturday, August 04, 2012
6:53 AM

Kings of Cups as the significator is telling you that the viewpoint of this reading is understanding "Universal Law" and "karma".

The situation you are faced with is the 10 of Wands Reversed. This represents one wasting time on feeling sorry for oneself which creates additional pressures than those already being experienced. This pressure causes an attitude of self-defeat. It is also an indication of someone who is not or has not fulfilled their responsibilities.

Your challenge here is "The Hermit" and this is inner reflection at it's most significant depth. He not only is attainment of the goal but he is "realization of purpose". He is "good advise". As indicated by the original 3 cards I pulled, and most significantly the 4 of Cups that flipped out, you're not taking the advise of someone who can help you relieve all these pressures you are feeling, and remember, your perspective is creating additional burdens for yourself.

The focus is the Page of Wands Reversed. The Page of Wands Reversed in extreme cases is temperamental and unstable. He is also unpleasant news, or brings unpleasant news. This is what you are focusing on and where you need to redirect your focus to a more positive area. If you are older than your boss, than this is your boss. If your boss is older and male then this is you, (editing and adding this here: or your boss has male tendencies. Possibly this isn't your boss but another person, older than you and with more experiences, who is providing advise to you?). I don't know which it is because the page came up in both spreads along with the 9 of Pentacles (reversed in this spread). If the page is you, then you're not seeing things for the way they are and there are some things you did that you have to face and be honest with yourself about. If the Page is your boss, then your thoughts are turning always to this and becoming dark and gloomy and you need to refocus your thoughts to more positive things. Your thoughts create your life experiences. Your thoughts will manifest into real life situations. Negative = more negative, and positive = more positive. Think about what you want and what you like not what you don't want and what you don't like.

The veil beneath your focus and controlling your outcome is the 3 of Swords. This is Severe Distress. The consciousness experiences deep emotional pain, especially from making the wrong decision in the 2 of Swords. It is complete emotional upheaval and the deep sorrow you feel, the extreme sense of loss, diminishes the ability to think rationally. There is an extreme conflict between thoughts and emotions leading to divisiveness and thought patterns that creates despair. You've lost the power to see what is beneath the surface as your thoughts drift to being consumed with one's shortcomings leading to depression. Pessimism.

The past energy surrounding the situation is Judgement. Judgement is an intense time for decision and it is also a time to make amends for wrongs done, to correct injustices. Now the King of Cups is emotional power brought to the situation to get results and Judgement encourages the King of Cups to intensify his action.

The current energy surrounding the situation or one you are about to enter is the Ace of Cups Reversed. Sheesh, you sure have a lot to deal with and I am so sorry for that. While this is clearly emotional upset, it can also be vindictiveness, jealousy, and resentment. Steer clear of any of those manners of thought for it will only drag you down further and make recovery that much harder and take that much longer to happen.

How the significator views the situation is the World Reversed. This is NOT learning the lesson well, increased struggle with life's test; many more lessons to be learned. Success has not been reached. Important principles not being grasped. More determination is needed; discipline is lacking, and overly concentrating on one's limitations and difficulties (being consumed with the emotions of the 3 of Swords and allowing those emotions to dictate to the intellect).

How the significator is seen or the environment is the 9 of Pentacles Reversed. She is someone who has erected a façade. She engages in self-indulgence, self-deception, and can be fixated on the material. When things go awry due to her own misguided intentions, she can become jaded. The needs of the soul are neglected in pursuit of others things whether these things are tangible material possessions or the continued efforts to maintain the façade.

The advise/hope/fears position is represented here with the 5 of Wands. This is conflict; open disputes; plans disrupted by meddling; strife at work or at home (or both); aggressive competition and a struggle for dominance; violent confrontation; intensity and feelings hurt; fiercely opposing views and draining arguments; confusing events and circumstances. You are experiencing all of these in both your work life and your home life.

The outcome is the 4 of Wands Reversed: conflict in the home; delays in reaching a goal; feeling insecure and feeling like you don't belong; an unwelcome intrusion; inconsiderate words and actions.

The 12th Card, one I use to clarify and solidify the thorough meaning of the outcome is the Ace of Pentacles Reversed. The Ace of Pentacles Reversed can be rather extreme. It can mean obsessive materialism and greed; selfishness; irresponsibility and laziness; anxiety; careers are derailed because of carelessness and a narrow outlook, the emotional state becomes swallowed by anxiety because of a rigid perspective and an inability to be objective, this can block emotional well-being and spiritual aspirations. The basic motto of the Ace of Pentacles is "Hard work brings practical results".

If the Page in the reading is you, then you are not seeing things clearly and you are refusing to recognize the truth in this situation. If the King of Cups is you, then you are being encouraged by Judgement to use your emotional power to diffuse the negativity inside you and intensify your actions in order to achieve results.

If you tell me which one you are, I will tell you precisely what the cards are saying.

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Knowflake

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posted August 04, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, thanks for your time on this.

My boss is a female, male traits, is older than me, but there is a male boss too (the one who says things on my ex-colleagues back (and front too), and I know he said things about me too..); It isnt the first time she pulls the rug under someone's feet and I was even adviced that she could do that to me too lol

I dont know who is the person giving me advices, since I dont speak about this with anyone anymore. This has happened some months ago and I'm over all this. I'm not even with the depression anymore. Its being one of the best phases of my life and I'm glad that I'm pursuing old dreams and new dreams (to study Reiki, alternative medicine, etc.). Dont know if it is Neptune on my 12th house, but I think I'm receiving messages to show me a new way of life, in my dreams and through other signs.

But I still have to find a job to pay my bills

The reason I asked that question in the other thread, about if I should apply for this and if it would not prejudice me is because I'm searching for a new job and applying for a lot of offers, in different companies, and for the first time in some months this was the first time I saw an offer for that same department. I tought it would be nice if I could work there I love my ex-colleagues. I've already applied for others departments but was no luck. I'd love to go back to that company, since it's where I've worked for some time and because I love someone who works there. Someone older I believe is meant to have an important role in my life, like a soulmate. He has appeared several times as a King in the tarot cards when I ask about him.

So dont know.. I'm not in despair about that job, maybe about him lol, since I'm far from him, but I dont think it is even despair.. maybe I should be lol since I'm unemployed but dont know, I'm not.

My self love has improved a lot, I'm finally having time for myself and my daughter, I'm taking my license, doing things that I really enjoy..

EDITED --> and will have further training in September which will improve my situation.

People say I look happier and younger now.

And I have to say that I've applied for a job offer last week (a work from home job) and luckly I came to find it was a fraud scheme and had contacted the authorities before I could be further involved. Dont know if you can see this on your reading.

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posted August 04, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops sorry thought the response was to myself at first Exiting back to the discussion board

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posted August 04, 2012 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol

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Knowflake

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posted August 04, 2012 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the King of Cups is wise, warm, gracious, and very compassionate, so maybe that is he and maybe it's his influence that's the positive I am seeing? I see so much of the future and what is to come and many times I get confused thinking things are happening now when it is future, so possibly that is the case here? Not sure, just know you need to keep yourself centered and not dwell on the negatives of the past. Continue to persevere with practical applications and you will find what you seek.

Good luck!

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Originally posted by Phoenix:
lol

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posted August 04, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol --> Phoenixfire

Whereabouts thnx for your insight on this.. Somewhat I got scared, your spread got so many negative cards.. I hope they stay in the past, I'm really having hope in my future.

Thnx

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