posted March 18, 2013 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Tofu addict:

Imeanj, if you read my sentence thoroughly that you will see that i mention that it is an out of sign aspect, Venus needs to change sign before it can apply to Mars. In horary this is a big obstacle, an applying aspect should perfect in the sign without going over to the other sign, , Venus needs to enter Aries, it simply doesn't count.

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Do you mind telling me more about the application before sign change? Is this specific for conjunctions - because on most applying situations applications happen often after changes houses?

I would like to read more about it. Thanks for your insight and for further references.

@Hope, sorry we are getting into a discussion, go with Tofu's reading for now, we will clarify further.

Do NOT draw another chart, horary is not meant to ask ask and ask again. The timing and question matter a lot, this is your answer and all of your answers will be in THIS chart. I am sorry that it may not be the answer you want... Hug!

posted March 18, 2013 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
Do you mind telling me more about the application before sign change? Is this specific for conjunctions - because on most applying situations applications happen often after changes houses?

I would like to read more about it. Thanks for your insight and for further references.

@Hope, sorry we are getting into a discussion, go with Tofu's reading for now, we will clarify further.

Do NOT draw another chart, horary is not meant to ask ask and ask again. The timing and question matter a lot, this is your answer and all of your answers will be in THIS chart. I am sorry that it may not be the answer you want... Hug!

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Only just read your reply!

I am staying away from horary charts from now on... Well for the time being... Maybe in a few weeks or a few months... but then again by then I will know the answer to all my questions so I guess I will not need to create another chart because as time will pass I will know if him and I are to just be friends, or get back together, or simply go our separate ways.

So sorry for all the confusion I may have caused

I guess, as a newbie, I will make lots of mistake before I become knowledgeable.

So much to learn but looking forward to all the learning

posted March 18, 2013 06:58 PM            

Horary is very temperamental. It's the nature of the beast. People give different time frames, but normally its 1.5-3 months minimum before asking the same question. Also, its important the question be very clear to the querent even before asking. I think the positive thing about horary though is that it most often gives you an answer (often whether you like it or not) and is able to give you further insight.

Personally, I enjoy it because it is very mathematical and logically structured and oddly reveals a lot all in one little chart.

Anyhow, please keep us updated on the situation. Hug!

posted March 18, 2013 08:46 PM            

I promised I would look at someone else's horary, and I have a lot of work to do. Let's wait until Tofu comes back with some reading material to look further. Sorry, HUG!

posted March 18, 2013 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
Hi Hope - this is a LOT. I don't think you're a nutter; you have a really go get 'em energy, but it should be devoted to something or someone else is my sense. Like you would be really great as a nurse/caretaker or cheerleader!

I promised I would look at someone else's horary, and I have a lot of work to do. Let's wait until Tofu comes back with some reading material to look further. Sorry, HUG!

*And I would go with the FIRST horary chart.

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Hi Imeanj,

As previously said I thought maybe it was best to use the very last chart I made because of the comment a poster wrote in a website I came across.

posted March 19, 2013 01:15 AM            

I think I am the Moon, right?

In my first chart the Moon is above Jupiter in 9th house.

In my second chart the Moon is next to Jupiter in 11th house.

What does that mean?

I know I do ask lots of questions but I am very eager to learn.

Also, what are the best books to buy re. Astrology in general +Horary charts?

posted March 19, 2013 01:22 AM            

SOME BASICS
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html

posted March 19, 2013 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
I think just reading all the horary's and working thru them on this site would make you pretty amazing.

SOME BASICS
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html

HORARY ASTROLOGY PLAIN SIMPLE QUESTION
http://www.amazon.com/Horary-Astrology-Pla in-Simple-Questions/dp/1567184014/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363670541&sr=8-1&keywords=horary

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Thank you

posted March 20, 2013 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Hope73:
I am Leo Ascendant.

So in that case, what would the Sun mean?

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Not sure i get you, the chart you posted gives a Libra ascendant not Leo.

posted March 20, 2013 02:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Tofu addict:
Not sure i get you, the chart you posted gives a Libra ascendant not Leo.

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I wrote I am 'Leo Ascendant because my 'natal' chart shows that I am Leo ascendant.

posted March 20, 2013 02:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Hope73:
I wrote I am 'Leo Ascendant because my 'natal' chart shows that I am Leo ascendant.

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posted March 20, 2013 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Tofu addict:
As requested some links about perfecting aspects.

Let's not forget either that when Venus finally reaches March, Venus has made an conjunction with Uranus, as Mars has passed Uranus, that alone is not an conjunction to ignore, I don't use the outer planets as significators but if they are prominent for some reason you can't ignore them.
http://www.auxmaillesgodefroy.com/aspects_in_horary
http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson4/lesson4.html

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Thank you Tofu

What does it mean 'when Venus finally reaches March, Venus has made an conjunction with Uranus, as Mars has passed Uranus, that alone is not an conjunction to ignore'???

posted March 20, 2013 02:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Hope73:
So if Venus is to enter Aries on March 22nd, would it be useful to draw another horary chart around that date?

I know you do not wish to give me false hope

I sincerely thank you all for the time and effort you have all put in to help me understand the chart.

I a new to this and still have so much to learn.

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No, don't draw a new chart, you create false answers. One question, one chart. Stick with that. A very important rule in horary. You can ask again, but not within days. Half a year as a rule of the thumb.

posted March 20, 2013 02:45 AM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
Do you mind telling me more about the application before sign change? Is this specific for conjunctions - because on most applying situations applications happen often after changes houses?

I would like to read more about it. Thanks for your insight and for further references.

@Hope, sorry we are getting into a discussion, go with Tofu's reading for now, we will clarify further.

Do NOT draw another chart, horary is not meant to ask ask and ask again. The timing and question matter a lot, this is your answer and all of your answers will be in THIS chart. I am sorry that it may not be the answer you want... Hug!

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To avoid confusion , I am NOT talking about changing HOUSES, I am talking about changing SIGNS. Also you need to take into consideration the other planets that Venus in this case is going to bump into before it reaches Mars.