posted April 13, 2013 08:01 PM            

The charts are for me and my producing partner for our upcoming TV series. Our eight-year relationship has been volatile, complex, and has yet withstood more than I could've imagined it - or anything - would.

We've been best friends who were circumstantially platonic, have remained writing partners and are now co-creators and co-stars for the project that we developed several years ago - a story featuring the complex relationships experienced by a set of twinsouls here for a specific mission. Think Sorkin drama in the urban fantasy genre featuring deep, thought-provoking philosophical subject matter. Fitting that it's called LACHESIS.

So, without further ado, our composite, (and synastry, as some are curious, and it does complete the picture.)

Again, alll thoughts are welcome. I've got to say this is still the most intense relationship I've ever known: it breaks down, reinvents, comes back stronger and more honest, and has provided me experiences that have changed my understanding and experience of reality - telepathy, time paradoxes, synchronicity, psychic empathy - things I'd never experienced so thoroughly first-hand.

As an astrologer of 22 years, my focus is karmic relationships. Highly concentrated composites (like this one) hold my greatest fascination right now, as they seem to be very indicative of a greater mission at hand.

Thanks.

posted April 14, 2013 09:07 PM            

I know two couples with a similar chart but uranus isnt conjunct the stellium. They got together right away and feel like they are soulmates---also have no problems. (Both also love stelliums)

posted April 14, 2013 11:11 PM            

On the other hand, I've had the feeling that my husband is a companion soulmate. We have (ironically) greater conflict but less instability - per se. Or maybe the Saturn's just enough to keep us adhering firmly to our obligations and 'what matters', whereas my partner and I frequently seem engaged in what I've seen described as the 'runner / chaser' dynamic - both playing each role, then switching, rinse, repeat.

I've been most unsure on just what sort of soul connection it is, however. He feels unlike anything or anyone I've ever known. Has an effect upon me that no one's had. (Probably why I've run my share of the time, too.) Yet, the thought of not having him in my life ... is too unthinkable. Sure, I reach a point of so much frustration and despair that I quit responding, and start instituting distance. Then when he stops trying ... I let it be. This is the longest we've gone so far. It's felt like 'the end', but history has oddly proven with us that it's an illusory, and somehow unlikely thing.

I've rambled on enough. Heh.

What really got me was how his correct birthtime revealed that we have a DW ASC-VX conjunction. I guess I can't say I was surprised, though. My Moon's right on his MC, and his is on my IC. My Moon's right there on his Karma, too. Our Karma-Destinns are conjunct as well.

Lotsa stuff. Still hard to determine what it all means. I really appreciate it. This one's been burning my brain for awhile now.

posted April 14, 2013 11:17 PM            

Also post the synastry wheel from astro

What are your chinese signs by the way?

posted April 15, 2013 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
If u have that breaking up and getting back together stuff happening, i'd say it's because of uranus being conjunct the stellium.

I know two couples with a similar chart but uranus isnt conjunct the stellium. They got together right away and feel like they are soulmates---also have no problems. (Both also love stelliums)

YTA and his wife have a similar chart as well but the planets are in much looser conjunction and there is no love stellium, plus no uranus. So its not unstable.

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posted April 15, 2013 12:03 AM            

You're right about Yin going best with Yang, but only in two cases - Palace signs, and Soulmate signs.

Your palace sign is similar to you and is a soulmate in this lifetime, but not as intense as the soulmate sign.

Your real soulmate is the Snake, the Yin to your Yang, and you won't ever fully recover if you date someone from this sign, because they'll touch you in a deep way, even if it may not be that apparent at first. I am going through this now with the guy I recently broke up with. He's a monkey, I'm a snake. He touched me in a deeper way than I thought he would and now I'm crying everyday and barely functioning. (Not to mention having a love stelliium conjunct moon and mars, all opposite pluto, and in synastry venus square pluto and double whammy moon square pluto as well as venus opp mars.)

Trine signs are compatible with you but it won't be as passionate. There won't be nearly as much physical attraction either. I dated a rooster (trine my sign) before him and the physical attraction and affection was much much less in comparison.

Ha. Sorry. I rambled....
It sounded like you wanted to learn a little chinese astro, so I couldnt resist.:P

posted April 15, 2013 12:45 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Not to mention having a love stelliium conjunct moon and mars, all opposite pluto, and in synastry venus square pluto and double whammy moon square pluto as well as venus opp mars.)

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Oh, that right up there can certainly do it. I'm really sorry to hear about everything you're going through. I noticed you said that you ended the relationship. It must have been a very serious reason, considering all of the pain that's resulted from that decision.

Just wanted to add that in.

posted April 15, 2013 12:49 AM            

Moon square pluto is pretty passionate. It means you find each other fascinating. So is moon square venus..it means you're overflowing with affection for each other and a need to nurture and protect each other. (Description is in my Most important aspects description link in my signature)

Can I also recommend moonit's love claculator which shows the highlighting theme of a relationship by its most weighted synastry aspect? http:// reallovecalc.com
I also recommend the http://armonics.it "Tema di Coppia" because it shows aspects witha wider orb that I have still found very valid, though, granted, less in their intensity.

posted April 15, 2013 12:57 AM            

Rather appropriate, I think, to have drawn The Moon, considering this is an emotional subject. Feelings are probably swiftly changing, and powerful. But I'm no expert! Just learnt a long time ago and have a lovely deck.

posted April 15, 2013 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, that right up there can certainly do it. I'm really sorry to hear about everything you're going through. I noticed you said that you ended the relationship. It must have been a very serious reason, considering all of the pain that's resulted from that decision.

Just wanted to add that in.

-AMP

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Thanks for this

We had my sun opp his uranus in synastry which made me feel like he was always distant. It made it difficult for us to fully connect in general, though we care for each other a lot. We got very close..but there was always something missing there. something that made it very painful. Subtle things, like the tone of his voice when he talked to me, or his lack of eye contact, or not looking at me when we were both doing something to check on my facial expression to see if i was happy/comfortable. I also broke it off bc he's addicted to weed and smokes it everyday. And bc we seemed to have different values as well.

posted April 15, 2013 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay. La Lune.

Rather appropriate, I think, to have drawn The Moon, considering this is an emotional subject. Feelings are probably swiftly changing, and powerful. But I'm no expert! Just learnt a long time ago and have a lovely deck.

-AMP

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So what does that say about how he feels/ whether he misses me or not?

Edit: keywords for the moon tarot card from wikipedia
Lack of clarity ----- Tension ----- Doubt ----- Fantasy
Deception ----- Psychological conflict ----- Obscured vision
Confusion ----- Illusion ----- Fear ----- Imagination ----- Worry

Oh, that means he misses me then. I feel better

"The Moon can be interpreted with the feeling of uncertainty, where the past still haunts, unsure of a journey but still going ahead with it"

feeling fear
releasing inner demons
feeling a nameless apprehension
suffering from phobias
giving in to the shadow self
lacking courage
being overcome by anxieties

feeling bewildered
losing direction and purpose
having trouble thinking clearly
becoming confused
being easily distracted
feeling disoriented
wandering aimlessly

posted April 15, 2013 01:16 AM            

I know. All the running makes it all sound like my fault - that I'm a terrible person - but I'm responding after years of deception. We've been through a lot - strong emotions - oh, yes. I felt betrayed by his deception - he felt betrayed by my 'abandonment'.

Long story short, we've both hurt each other - deeply - and to the point where I'm not sure either of us know where to go from here. The feelings between us are too intense for friendship. We've kind of tried that. He wants friendship rather than nothing (or just being partners) but ... I don't think I can do that anymore. Too much unsaid. WAY too much unsaid.

I'm afraid the second we start shooting that my set will turn into a battlefield. He doesn't even have to 'dodge' me at this point; I'm so upset, angry, hurt - unsure of how to begin to express it - that an intimate relationship is SO off the table, (for both of us) and, sometimes, I swear we won't be able to function until we CAN actually express ourselves to each other fully honestly and openly. Augh! And until THAT day ... I guess we'll just take turns trying to kill each other. Fun.

I hate it, I admit it. Just as much as I can't seem to bring myself to answer when he calls, (and he hasn't called for ... a week now, so, hey - maybe he has given up - for good) I miss him. Every day I miss him. I wish more than anything that we were ... either back to the way we used to be - or, ideally, better than that. But now? After all THIS? God, I can't - I don't - understand anything.

Maybe if I knew, for sure, in some way, what our relationship really is, or if there IS a reason as to why he's affected me unlike anyone else I've ever known. Hell. What would that even do?

Of course, using the traditional term - 'soulmates' - in the way that it's often used - he'd said that once. Unbidden, too. Coincidentally, it was about our composite. He said, 'I know you must've run it.' Guilty. I couldn't quite get the words out, because I was both stunned at how close it all was - how I'd never experienced a composite like ours. Instead, he said, 'You and I are soulmates?' I responded with something snarky. Oh, he deserved it. He's 99.9% sarcastic. But man, that .1%. I should've been honest - but I didn't even know what to say.

Hell, I still don't know what to say. I don't know what's true.

posted April 15, 2013 01:42 AM            

Even if his real response was his fear, and the fact that we know each other SO well, and are SO close that we couldn't pull off something casual - and we can't be something serious - so we're pretty stuck in between. But ...

I can't be friends. I told him honestly, at this point ... I'd try it, but I didn't think it'd work. Not with how everything's been. How there's ALWAYS been this underlying ... something ... between us. But that if I gave him the ultimatum of 'friends or nothing' then ... it'd be ... nothing. Or, as he put it, 'we would both be tragically disappointed.'

What do I do? I don't KNOW what to do.

Given our composite, and our synastry - what do you think we're here to do? Honestly? From the looks of it? I'm too close to it all.

posted April 15, 2013 01:50 AM            

Even if he isnt honest with you back, he'll at least know how you really feel and what's been hurting you. And he'll have time to ponder on it, and how he'll come back the next time he decides to try again at the relationship.
If he doesn't ever come back, at least you'll know that you tried your best. And your conscience will be clean.

No what ifs :P

posted April 15, 2013 08:57 PM            

I don't know what else to do. I've said it all, I think. There's no what-if. Just unfinished business which he won't acknowledge. (Too afraid.) And I feel like my hands are tied. I wish I could be friends, but after all this ... after 8 years of this ... I just can't. He wants to make that my fault. It's hilarious and ironic, besides. I'm the last person imaginable to have SUCH an attraction to someone that I'd be UNABLE to be strictly platonic. AUGH! How embarrassing!