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Topic: Important Love Asteroids in Composite/Synastry
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dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 06:30 AM
  
Hi Everyone, I have posted a Synastry/Connections, it basically consists of all the "significant" love asteroid connections.This relationship was very intense definitely life changing I know there are some fated aspects here meaning the conjunctions to the Vertex.
I have Compared our Synastry to the vast list of Twin Flames aspects we have some present as well. I'm just looking for clarification, more of a confirmation whether this is a significant relationship: if this is my Twin Flame, Twin Soul, Soul Mate or is this just a regular karmic relationship I know we have a special past life connection. These are all the asteroids I tend to interpret, so you're onto something different please share at best i'm a amateur I would most definitely appreciate any and all feedback, opinions and insight. Our Synastry
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dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 11:44 AM
What I notice right off the bat is that we have Eros conjunct Venus: Irresistible Attraction. According to astrologyanonymous27 “Eros is very drawn to the Venus person’s grace, charm, and beauty, and deeply desires intimacy with them. Venus is drawn to Eros’ sexual charisma and intensity. Venus’ sensuality turns on the Eros person’s sexual desires and erotic nature. Eros feels their senses are triggered when the Venus person is around them. This is a highly magnetic bond which borders on the irresistible!”IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 11:46 AM
the physical attraction between us was so powerful that we quickly become aroused in each other’s presence.IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 11:53 AM
Being that Amor is conjunct the North Node I am just guessing that this is a fated union, and one that was meant to happen. North Node conjunctions basically mean that you have chosen each other to work together in this life. We probably agreed to work on unconditional love together before we were born into this life. This is just what I observe, I would love some insight from some true experts IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted April 17, 2013 02:30 PM
Eh. Venus-Eros is secondary to a Psyche-Eros tie. It's kinda like Eros has run back to mama to nurse his wounds ... in losing Psyche ... 'cause of his mother. Ain't the gods great?  So, on the more mythological level, the Eros will be drawn to Venus, but it's kind of a bizarre tie with in serial leanings. Gotta play out in a weird way in a hetero relationship, I'd imagine. I'm placing more stock in the Amor-Amor, as it indicates you're both on the same path of understanding unconditional love. That's not an easy path, mind. That's further supported by the NNode, since it's where you're -going- rather than where you've -been-. To understand more of THAT, I suggest digging deep into the 12H and your SNodes. I like the Valentine-Venus most of all. That's just a wonderful and loving vibe. It's pure and romantic - should it be expressed. Remember, I've got a lot - A LOT - of unexpressed Valentine connections. -A. IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 02:39 PM
@ Indigo Thanks! It's the same here a lot unexpressed vibes from this one as well IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 17, 2013 10:15 PM
Its your s.node that has all the activity on it, so i would think you meant a lot to them in a past life...they brought to your SN Love(venus), Sun(light up your life), Karma(?) depends on the karma! It seems you were receptive with your Psyche, soulmate asteroid being there, but....maybe it didnt end so well?
You didnt bring anything love-wise to there SN...makes me think this is you owing them a karmic debt type of relationship, with a lot of love conjunction to make sure it plays out well! 
Look at their Chiron....im not sure of the exact degrees, but it looks like you have guys have a Yod. Yod is said to be the "Finger of God", its an aspect the points to purpose of the relationship, its not easy...its a challenge that needs to acted on and balanced!So looking at their Chiron and their Eros/IC both potentially inconjunct your Karma...the finger of God pointing at your Karma. Your karma is to make right something regarding to this person deepest wound(chiron) which has impacted their sexual/love nature(eros)! The Eros in Cap on the IC--to them deep emotion, family, devotion and love run hand in hand with erotic love and lust! This belief is at their deepest core and they honor it! They enjoy taking care of their partner and its a turn on to do normal day in day out chores if its for their partner. Pisces Chiron
Chiron in Pisces is always in crisis. This is a universal level crisis, nothing small ever hits this combination. They may be religious or spiritual crises that keep this combination in a tizzy. They may be at risk for depression or drug use. They may feel they have lost faith with the universe. They may feel guilty even though there is no reason to feel that way. They may play the victim. They have an innate ability to attract those down on their luck and they try their best to help. They need clarity. Disillusionment and betrayal can make life seem harsh. They must learn that sometimes things happen for a reason. By examining their problems, they may find deeper insight and connection. Potentially you were part of this wounding and now you have a debt to repay to this person...maybe you somehow were involved with how they became disillusioned, they were taught hat rational thinking was more important than belief in a higher power. In this incarnation they need to re-connect with Spirit and learn how to develop trust and faith.
The reason they fall apart is they feel they have no connection! This could be impacting them in the way that they don't value themselves. Because they don't feel connected to God, they don't important to God, so why would they be important to anyone?
This might lead to them instead of finding ppl who appreciate them, they find ppl who use them...use them up! Then they turn to escapism to deal with it, whatever it is...it could be something as small as a television addict all the way to hard core drugs. But its something that keeps them from having to deal with life and ppl, a way to isolate themselves! Your Leo Karma on your MC, it looks like you might have a grand trine between your Karma, Saturn and Moon?
But your leo karma and bring sunshine and happiness into their life, either through your work helping them or giving them an opportunity so they work with you or you start a career from what you learn in the relationship and balancing the karmic debt?
IDK...lots of possibilities on the meaning for that!
But with all the love asteroids you have connecting im guessing you feel strongly and beyond friendship, but you see a lot of stress and sadness that you don't understand whats causing it.
If thats the case, its the past connection feelings...once you are able to help this person find their connection to their higher power and ultimately to themselves, they will have the confidence to pull themselves out of the hole, but you have a karmic responsibility to be there to help! IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted April 17, 2013 10:49 PM
I was wondering about that, but with no degrees, I hate guessing. It did look like Sun, Venus, and Karma on the SNode. I know how THAT feels. It's rough. Really, really rough. Specifically, my Moon-Karma and Mars-Uranus are on his Karma-SNode, his Venus-Mars and Psyche-Eros on my SNode. (My Eros-Moon is on his SNode, too.) Both of our Liliths are conjunct and tied into his SNode, and square mine. Honestly, Gabby, if you have a minute, I'd greatly appreciate your having a look at what's going on in my synastry / composite. I feel I'm understanding what we're here to do, but I'm too close; I just cannot see how to GET there. Or if I even have 'responsibility' to do so. At this point, I'm not sure if I should just ... walk away. If you could, please - please, help. There's a LOT riding on this. -A. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 17, 2013 11:21 PM
Sure...i'll take a min and look at it, n get back to you! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 17, 2013 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I was wondering about that, but with no degrees, I hate guessing. It did look like Sun, Venus, and Karma on the SNode. I know how THAT feels. It's rough. Really, really rough. Specifically, my Moon-Karma and Mars-Uranus are on his Karma-SNode, his Venus-Mars and Psyche-Eros on my SNode. (My Eros-Moon is on his SNode, too.) Both of our Liliths are conjunct and tied into his SNode, and square mine. Honestly, Gabby, if you have a minute, I'd greatly appreciate your having a look at what's going on in my synastry / composite. I feel I'm understanding what we're here to do, but I'm too close; I just cannot see how to GET there. Or if I even have 'responsibility' to do so. At this point, I'm not sure if I should just ... walk away. If you could, please - please, help. There's a LOT riding on this. -A.
#1 yes you do have a responsibility here! You have had a share in this persons Chiron wound! The Yod, "Finger of God" points to you being a healer/helper for them as a karmic debt you owe them! But its not all on you, they have to want to heal to! If they arent ready and are blaming you instead, then you need to walk away and let them work it out for themselves for awhile...but the relationship won't be over...your still go back, even if from a distance to check on them, you'll feel obligated to no matter what!Ok, im going to look at Comp!
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Gabby
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posted April 17, 2013 11:37 PM
Ok, huge instability here! If this is to be a relationship it will be electric with excitement and then vanish just as quickly! It could be rekindled in a heartbeat then gone again just as quickly! It will feel fated, and it is..you will feel its a soulmate connection, and it is...but a very unstable one based on karmic guilt and debt!
In this lifetime, its a very erratic relationship! You need to help this person heal but don't expect a solid stable relationship, expect crazy! It will swing from love and hate, obsession to disinterest back to obsession! If you like the ride, hang on because it will be bumpy but some people cant stand being bored?Im going back to look for anything that might show what will help stabilize the relationship... IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted April 17, 2013 11:38 PM
Oh, Gabby - don't want to confuse you. This is dyedye's thread, and I've zero intention of hijacking it. I do, however, have my own here, and your advice is VERY deeply appreciated.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/006730.html It's the composite first, then our synastry a ways down. I can't thank you enough. I'm to the point where I need real ADVICE. Help. A true game-plan. I'm used to fighting against others - but not myself. If I'M giving up ... then I really am afraid for everything else here to which I'm beholden, or have responsibility. Thanks so much. Let me know what I can do to return the favour. -A. IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 11:38 PM
@ Gabby I truly appreciate this detailed insight. It makes me look like an awful person in a past life. He drinks a lot, and he tends to be in denial a lot. I think subconsciously he may remember something from this past life, because i get the vibe he really don't trust me 100%. I get this vibe from him, that I hurt hi, but i never understood how and why. This insight you provided brings understanding, i can see why we are going through this separation now. And now I see why I am so eager to help me now. Now, he is depressed. we were laid off about 5 months ago, within 2 months I found work and he is still struggling to find work. Now, this whole time my heart aches for him. I am sending him job leads to companies in his area that is hiring. This whole time I have been so eager to help me overcome a lot of bad things in his lie: money problems, bad habits etc. Its like he wants to tell me everything, but he want allow me back into his heart. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 17, 2013 11:39 PM
Valentine on MC, it will be very public for everyone to see how much you deeply care and sacrifice for each other!! IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 11:43 PM
@ Indigio and Gabby, I created a first meeting chart. Can you guys shed some light on the importance of our first meeting. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted April 17, 2013 11:44 PM
And don't feel like the Lone Ranger, DD08. I'm sure we've all done our share in bringing us to where we are. What matters most now (at least to me) is doing what I'm here to do - and not letting more people down. We all need a solid plan. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 17, 2013 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by dyedye08:
@ Gabby I truly appreciate this detailed insight. It makes me look like an awful person in a past life. He drinks a lot, and he tends to be in denial a lot. I think subconsciously he may remember something from this past life, because i get the vibe he really don't trust me 100%. I get this vibe from him, that I hurt hi, but i never understood how and why. This insight you provided brings understanding, i can see why we are going through this separation now. And now I see why I am so eager to help me now. Now, he is depressed. we were laid off about 5 months ago, within 2 months I found work and he is still struggling to find work. Now, this whole time my heart aches for him. I am sending him job leads to companies in his area that is hiring. This whole time I have been so eager to help me overcome a lot of bad things in his lie: money problems, bad habits etc. Its like he wants to tell me everything, but he want allow me back into his heart.
Hes very scared of you, but doesnt know why!
He senses you did something that stole his identity and crippled him emotionally but knows theres no real justification for his feelings!
Hes very confused!
You can't blame yourself, or feel bad! How can you help what happened in another life? All you can do is earnestly try to help him find his connection to God! help him find his identity, thats whats wrong with him is he feels abandoned by God! he doesnt realize its only his perception, God doesnt go anywhere...we are the ones that turn cold to him because we feel unworthy...and block ourselves off from him!
But God is sitting there patiently waiting on us to wake and realize he never left, we just didnt think we deserved him so we shut him out believing he'd shut us out! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 17, 2013 11:53 PM
Yes...don't try so hard you go down with him!!! Just give him what he needs to start down a better path and if he does it, then stay in contact to be a support system! If he doesnt, then know you tried and send him all the love and positive thoughts you can..wish him all th happiness and love in the world! But dont feel like you have to save his sinking ship!
You just need to be a good friend and youve already done that...but if it gets to much and overwhelms you, then get away! You don't want to add any karma and as long as your wishing him happiness and love, you wont! IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 17, 2013 11:53 PM
@ Gabby Trust, I get this vibe that he's scared of me too. Right now we are not even communicating. I guess I need to wait on him to initate a reunion, so the healing can begin . Will the first meeting chart so how this relationship will progressIP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 18, 2013 12:07 AM
No, im sorry the comp chart trumps it once the relationship has officially begun and youve grown past the initial meeting!
I see alot of deep emotion, with moon in 4th! So its going to be deep, but really he's the key...what is he going to do? if he doesnt get in gear and want to change, you cant do anything except you will be drowning in a deep watery sea of emotions with him!
Just be careful and take care of yourself to! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 18, 2013 12:09 AM
In composite, you have so much in your 12th house....thats all deep subconscious things! have you suggested to him that you guys try to work on problems through hypnosis? Maybe even past life regression? If you were able to get to his deepest fears through that, it might stabilize things!IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 18, 2013 12:10 AM
@ Gabby I see why this relationship feels fated to me now. What's crazy is I felt this connection in my core e when we 1st meet, I tried so hard to shake him from my spirit but I couldn't. He wouldn't let goIP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 18, 2013 12:17 AM
@ Gabby I have always wanted up tell him about our past life connection, but initially I didnt understand it myself. Without you helping me to see things a lot clearer, I wouldn't know what was going on. I will mention everything to him, once he start talking to me again. We were such good friends, and then out of the blue cuts communication with me. This happened without reason. Is this 12th house making this connection feel fated. It had me feeling like he was my twin flame IP: Logged |
dyedye08
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posted April 18, 2013 12:23 AM
I see why I valued this friendship with him so much. I was afraid he would be lost to me. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 18, 2013 12:24 AM
12th house isnt what makes it feel fated, what makes it feel fated is that you know him and sense that theres a lot more going on than just what you see has happened in this lifetime together!
It feels fated because it is fated!
The 12th house just shows a lot of emotional scaring that is being hidden out of fear, not handling it will make it so you can't move on....happiness is the ultimate goal but you have to wade through all this subconscious mess to see the rainbow on the other side!IP: Logged | |
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