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scropiojunkie85
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posted June 04, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted a while ago about another relationship that had me crying everyday because I believed I hurt his feelings. I did, but my meanness was justified. He was nuts and I couldn't see it. 2 other girlfriends and a new baby with his "baby momma" wow! ( http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/005856.html)

Anyhow decided to give someone a try that I've known since highschool (he was my first physical thing with a boy) and OMG I CAN like someone else. I feel some ridiculous freedom. Then I looked at his chart....

What do you guys think? Can u speculate as to why HE was the only one that could get me out of the funk... Maybe compare their charts?

And btw the physical situation is bananas! I'm scared to hurt him with my inability to express my feelings... Any advice on how to proceed? He is sensitive to how i express my awkward feelings. I'm super happy. Thanks guys! You were all so helpful before!

I'm the Aquarius sun with the crazy Pisces mess in the 11th house. He's a real Taurus.... Geez

He's so easy to be around.


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LionFish
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posted June 04, 2013 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is his birth time right? If so, the angles conjunct like that are astounding. It'd be no wonder he was able to pull you out of your funk.

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scropiojunkie85
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posted June 04, 2013 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what he said that's his birth time... But I'll have to ask his mom. This guy has been a real shadow in my life. He's always been there but I just never paid him attention, I felt so comfortable with him, I knew he liked me but didn't realize my anxiety around him was that I liked him too. I didn't know what liking someone meant until that last relationship form hell.

The last one had crazy angles too check this out:

I hope that last guy doesn't come back. I crawled out of that and this new guy / old friend has totally taken him out of my head. Also this new guy has a really interesting chart pattern.... Know anything about that?

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posted June 04, 2013 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last one could never compare to what you and this old friend could have. I'd bet my life on it.

A lot of power struggles and mind games/intentional delusions in the old relationship.. And your poor Pisces Moon was probably so confused with him. Squares from Mars and Nessus, was he oblivious to your feelings or did he know and just not seem to care? Or maybe even manipulated them to his will? The confusion comes in when you look at the Moon-Moon/Moon-Sun contact. You probably felt like he understood you, and you him, and with you being the Moon in the Sun-Moon trine, your devotion to him and desire to support him in life endeavors probably seemed never-ending..I'm glad that you got away, and I'm sure it wasn't an easy thing to do

And while some of the conjunctions to angles; like your Vertex to his IC, his Saturn to your IC, your Sun to his DC, and his NN it looks like conjunct your DC almost exact; those are all fated aspects, but some people seem to take "fated" as meaning "good" and it doesn't always. Maybe he was fated to come into your life to teach you how you should never let someone treat you? Now that it's over, do you feel like maybe he was a teacher not a partner?

With this new guy, just make sure you aren't deluding yourself because you're trying to escape the mess you were in. Neptune square your Moon and Venus could make you think you're in love when really, you might just need a friend from him :/ That's not what the angles suggest though. I've never seen them conjunct that tightly before. And because your Moon and Venus are Neptune ruled, it could just end up being an epic love story

Your Saturn and Uranus, and his Jupiter and Uranus, fall in both your own, and each other's 7H. Are you the more serious with strict boundries when you're in a relationship? and him the more jubilent/extravagant type.. with eerie similarities between you two? Your Saturn in his 7H could make him quite the devoted parter, and through a relationship he can probably help you explore and learn your own self (Sun-Jupiter).

I also think that his Taurus placements are perfect for your Pisces ones. If you give him the chance he will include you in the list of things he adores and become your protector. Taurus men can have a way about them that can sometimes be a little domineering, but your Pisces placements might appreciate it. Your fixed Sun and Saturn... Maybe not so much Just try to remember, when his "protection" and "guidance" get under your skin, that he's doing it out of love..

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posted June 04, 2013 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't even tell you how dead on you are. I had to take a second. This last guy knew that I cared about him and enjoyed it. I stripped my ego way down trying to figure out why he kept pushing away, it all just boiled down that my pain made him feel good. I look back now and realize that he came into my life because I needed to see myself for who I truly was. I learned that you don't have to be perfect to be loved, you don't have to do anything really. When you love someone it's truly because of just who they are flaws and all. I really loved him knowing how insane he was, so I know the inverse can be true as well. Someone can feel the same way about me and its truly the best lesson I have ever learned because I no longer value myself based on what others think. I'm free to be me and that helps me make better relationship desicions. I unfortunately love dumb stupid hard and that empathy thing is the pits. Compassion is both a gift and a curse. Intrinsically good people are capable of super awful things. So many lessons.

This "new" guy I've known for 15 years now. He was the first boy I ever let touch me, my first romantic experience. He just keep popping up in my life in crazy ways. We have really awesome communication so when I say something upsetting we usually sort it out. I know he's really slow about stuff and is trying to figure everything out, but I can already feel him being super protective of me. Super considerate and just always trying to make sure I'm ok... Even if I am emotionally awkward.

He has this amazing little creative bent that I find really endearing and I just never knew, or took the time to notice how awesome he really was. He never pushed it but was always available in a very protected way, and it has always been that way. So now I know I have to deal with some of the hurt feelings on his end... I told him I am broken. I realize that a lot of my relationships have very strong Neptune-venus contacts and I'm idealized to the point of not being able to make mistakes sometimes. I'm usually the Neptune person... I have all this stored up creativity....
Thank you for your time, that was a very thoughtful response. You have me tearing over here! I never want to go back to that other mess! The taurus really does help me feel way more centered. I just hope he doesn't find me dominating :/ Thank you again.

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posted June 04, 2013 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just feel safe in an awesome way but not like I'm just settling. But I see a lot of pain in him that he hides very well.... He already knows I see it....

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posted June 04, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scropiojunkie85:
I can't even tell you how dead on you are. I had to take a second. This last guy knew that I cared about him and enjoyed it. I stripped my ego way down trying to figure out why he kept pushing away, it all just boiled down that my pain made him feel good. I look back now and realize that he came into my life because I needed to see myself for who I truly was. I learned that you don't have to be perfect to be loved, you don't have to do anything really. When you love someone it's truly because of just who they are flaws and all. I really loved him knowing how insane he was, so I know the inverse can be true as well. Someone can feel the same way about me and its truly the best lesson I have ever learned because I no longer value myself based on what others think. I'm free to be me and that helps me make better relationship desicions. I unfortunately love dumb stupid hard and that empathy thing is the pits. Compassion is both a gift and a curse. Intrinsically good people are capable of super awful things. So many lessons.


This really resonated with me. Hope things work out for you guys, God knows we all need it - some rainbows after the storm .

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posted June 04, 2013 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope I have some very good karma coming my way after that craziness!!! It's nice to know someone understands.

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posted June 05, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scropiojunkie85:
I can't even tell you how dead on you are. I had to take a second. This last guy knew that I cared about him and enjoyed it. I stripped my ego way down trying to figure out why he kept pushing away, it all just boiled down that my pain made him feel good. I look back now and realize that he came into my life because I needed to see myself for who I truly was. I learned that you don't have to be perfect to be loved, you don't have to do anything really. When you love someone it's truly because of just who they are flaws and all. I really loved him knowing how insane he was, so I know the inverse can be true as well. Someone can feel the same way about me and its truly the best lesson I have ever learned because I no longer value myself based on what others think. I'm free to be me and that helps me make better relationship desicions. I unfortunately love dumb stupid hard and that empathy thing is the pits. Compassion is both a gift and a curse. Intrinsically good people are capable of super awful things. So many lessons.

This "new" guy I've known for 15 years now. He was the first boy I ever let touch me, my first romantic experience. He just keep popping up in my life in crazy ways. We have really awesome communication so when I say something upsetting we usually sort it out. I know he's really slow about stuff and is trying to figure everything out, but I can already feel him being super protective of me. Super considerate and just always trying to make sure I'm ok... Even if I am emotionally awkward.

He has this amazing little creative bent that I find really endearing and I just never knew, or took the time to notice how awesome he really was. He never pushed it but was always available in a very protected way, and it has always been that way. So now I know I have to deal with some of the hurt feelings on his end... I told him I am broken. I realize that a lot of my relationships have very strong Neptune-venus contacts and I'm idealized to the point of not being able to make mistakes sometimes. I'm usually the Neptune person... I have all this stored up creativity....
Thank you for your time, that was a very thoughtful response. You have me tearing over here! I never want to go back to that other mess! The taurus really does help me feel way more centered. I just hope he doesn't find me dominating :/ Thank you again.


You're very welcome I wish you the absolute best in all this!

With so much fixed energy in his chart, I don't think you COULD dominate him. Taureans are very headstrong and he has a LOT of Taurus in him. You may have found the perfect companion in him, honestly. Strong-willed enough to handle your Aquarian Sun, without feeling like you are emasculating him, but sensitive enough to dote on your sensitive Pisces Moon/Venus..

I'm a Pisces Sun/Merc, and I don't really appreciate the Taurus connection as much as I should IMO..But Venus is Taurus' natural ruler and is exalted in Pisces.. It makes sense you'd have a love for Taureans who aspect your Venus. And boy does he. Sextiles from his ASC, Sun, Merc, and Mars to your Venus... Also his Chiron, Venus-Chiron connections, if they are easy aspects, I've noticed produce a healing type of love. It may not always be ever-lasting, but both people are better for having had the relationship. And you already mentioned seeing his pain...
How do the mental and spiritual connections feel between you two? I know you've known him for quite a while now, but do you feel like you've known him even longer? Or like this isn't the only life you've spent together?


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