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FairyDust75
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posted October 02, 2014 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not fair. She should refund you for what you paid for. The tech issues are no ones fault but she should refund you or come back immediately for a reading.

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posted October 02, 2014 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
That's not fair. She should refund you for what you paid for. The tech issues are no ones fault but she should refund you or come back immediately for a reading.

Exactly! I wrote to her that had she come back online after the last time I would have continued the chat and didn't ask for a refund. But she went offline and I waited and waited and she never came back..

She's acting as if I'm stealing the money from her. But she didn't earn those $50 - she only gave reading for half the agreed time. So she doesn't lose anything by refunding me half of my money.

And now I don't want another reading from her. Frustrating.

I'm also opening a paypal dispute against - Truth and Light - that person is just a fraud plain and simple and he/she wouldn't provide me with a refund unless I remove my negative review.

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I would leave a very negative review. Watch how fast she replies to that. And I would complain to bitwine as well.

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posted October 02, 2014 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bakaneko     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by St@r2013:
Exactly! I wrote to her that had she come back online after the last time I would have continued the chat and didn't ask for a refund. But she went offline and I waited and waited and she never came back..

She's acting as if I'm stealing the money from her. But she didn't earn those $50 - she only gave reading for half the agreed time. So she doesn't lose anything by refunding me half of my money.

And now I don't want another reading from her. Frustrating.

I'm also opening a paypal dispute against - Truth and Light - that person is just a fraud plain and simple and he/she wouldn't provide me with a refund unless I remove my negative review.


I'm sorry you had bad experiences with them and I hope you're able to get your money back. Both matters are unethical of the reader.

Truth and Light is very much a script reader. I tried that person out as well and asked for the $10 deal, but they refused to give it to me and told me that I needed to do per minute and they would allow the extra time after the deposit was depleted. This didn't happen, no extra minutes and he/she refused to finish the reading, so I added extra funds. My question was the same I asked several readers, if there would be a reconnection with "T" and I. Truth and Light proceeded to tell me that this person was my soul mate and that we would get back together and be happy, same BS fairy tale. Thing is, "T" was my GAY male friend, we had a falling out, he disappeared, I missed him. Then I was told I needed a cleansing for $75...no thanks.

Carla, right after I introduced myself she asked me what deal I wanted and charged me right away. She basically said if I would stay with "T" I would suffer because he had money issues and would cheat on me. I left chat because she was waaaay off and didn't bother to dispute it.

--I've only been refunded twice on Bitwine and that was when a reader made me pay twice due to technical issues. She processed both orders and refunded me a few days after I mailed her. The other time was by Empress when we didn't have a connection.

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posted October 02, 2014 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Fairy! That's exactly what I'm going to do! Argh!

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Originally posted by bakaneko:
I'm sorry you had bad experiences with them and I hope you're able to get your money back. Both matters are unethical of the reader.

Truth and Light is very much a script reader. I tried that person out as well and asked for the $10 deal, but they refused to give it to me and told me that I needed to do per minute and they would allow the extra time after the deposit was depleted. This didn't happen, no extra minutes and he/she refused to finish the reading, so I added extra funds. My question was the same I asked several readers, if there would be a reconnection with "T" and I. Truth and Light proceeded to tell me that this person was my soul mate and that we would get back together and be happy, same BS fairy tale. Thing is, "T" was my GAY male friend, we had a falling out, he disappeared, I missed him. Then I was told I needed a cleansing for $75...no thanks.

Carla, right after I introduced myself she asked me what deal I wanted and charged me right away. She basically said if I would stay with "T" I would suffer because he had money issues and would cheat on me. I left chat because she was waaaay off and didn't bother to dispute it.

--I've only been refunded twice on Bitwine and that was when a reader made me pay twice due to technical issues. She processed both orders and refunded me a few days after I mailed her. The other time was by Empress when we didn't have a connection.


Your story sounds really similar to mine.
I asked Truth and Light about a guy friend (I'm not interested in him romantically) he/she told me - that he is my soulmate and we'll be together - I replied that no he is not... And I don't have any intention to be together with him....

I asked Carla about the same guy and also another - she told me how I'll find someone eventually and be married but not with those two... I'm like - ummm I have no intention to marry them nor did I ever want to...

When I asked for a refund she wrote "I persevered for an insane amount of free time to cover for that inconvenience (technical issues)." Umm no... the reading was still only 13 min with the technical difficulties and it was me logging back in 4 times and we had to establish what was missed...

And yeah Empress was the only person who refunded me straight away because there was no connection...

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posted October 02, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by St@r2013:
I used Carla again - this is the last time I'm using her ! There were technical issues with bitwine so although I paid for 20min it was really 10min where a lot of time was one of us being disconnected and have to return and then ask - what was the last thing you read... and then she just went offline - I waited and nothing...

So I asked for a refund, at least half since only half the time was used.

Her reply - she doesn't do refunds and how dare I ask for one. The technical problems weren't her fault (they weren't mine either) and she provided a reading. She can give me a free reading.

I don't want another reading from her.

Anyway, I'll try paypal dispute and see what happens...



PayPal dispute won't work. If the charge made of a card or from a checking account, go to the bank directly. That's how I got my refund for An Angel's Touch on Bitwine

...Who is on the "yes, but I'll never call again" list.

She said we were just in bad timing that needed to correct itself. She did say not to expect contact for a long while, but he did contact me 2 weeks later.

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posted October 02, 2014 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bakaneko     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a way to revise feedback on keen? Like change the star rating and write something if it's within that 90 day window?

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St@r2013
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posted October 02, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PayPal dispute won't work. If the charge made of a card or from a checking account, go to the bank directly. That's how I got my refund for An Angel's Touch on Bitwine


What did you say to the bank LP? My bank is usually really good but I'm not sure what to tell them - the services provided wasn't good can they take the money back?

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posted October 02, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
early october has come, and no contact from OD has been made! but I am on workliday (getit) so it's very okay (and I've been using Tinder )

timeframes for contact (only):

DLD said 'before I go to England', but she hesitated giving real timeframe, which I can understand.
Cosmic said it will be slow but around late sept - october.
Domine said within 4 weeks (3 weeks left)
Mysticwisdom said 'when the time is right' (somehow I'm ok with the answer lol)
Sophie said before I go to England also (with reasons why) though her guides were jonesin for me to go for frenchie lol


in other news, this workliday i met guys who have same accents as OD (which made me miss him a bit), and seeing many types of older couples in this festival gave me insight on what he seek or wish, someone to grow old together. I can understand his insecurity better now (pressure, etc) and he's afraid being alone more than anything, so...

Not everyone wish to have never-ending learning process, some people is content with companionship, and that's ok.

kinda bittersweet feelings :')

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posted October 02, 2014 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by St@r2013:
What did you say to the bank LP? My bank is usually really good but I'm not sure what to tell them - the services provided wasn't good can they take the money back?

Tell them you didn't get the service you paid for.
They will ask if you used the merchant befor. Tell them u have since she read for you before if it was charged from that same account. Say no if you didn't charge to that account.
They will ask if u contacted merchant, tell them what she told u

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St@r2013
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posted October 02, 2014 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tell them you didn't get the service you paid for.
They will ask if you used the merchant befor. Tell them u have since she read for you before if it was charged from that same account. Say no if you didn't charge to that account.
They will ask if u contacted merchant, tell them what she told u


Thanks!

I spoke to my bank, they said since it was through pay pal they can only lodge a claim with paypal but the risk is that pay pal can close my account.
I said go for it... so another dispute has been lodged.
And if necessary I have the messages from Truth and Light saying he/she will only provide me with a refund if I change my review.
And docs from Carla showing that we didn't speak 20min.
Hope that will work.

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FairyDust75
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posted October 02, 2014 08:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow she said she would only refund you if you change your rating??? What blackmail!!! How can anyone trust them as a reader!!!!

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posted October 02, 2014 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
Wow she said she would only refund you if you change your rating??? What blackmail!!! How can anyone trust them as a reader!!!!

Exactly. And that reader has over 700 positive reviews! I have no idea how, obviously a scam.

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FairyDust75
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posted October 03, 2014 06:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably got all of those reviews by bullying people into them.

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posted October 03, 2014 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for minimini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by St@r2013:
I used Carla again - this is the last time I'm using her ! There were technical issues with bitwine so although I paid for 20min it was really 10min where a lot of time was one of us being disconnected and have to return and then ask - what was the last thing you read... and then she just went offline - I waited and nothing...

So I asked for a refund, at least half since only half the time was used.

Her reply - she doesn't do refunds and how dare I ask for one. The technical problems weren't her fault (they weren't mine either) and she provided a reading. She can give me a free reading.

I don't want another reading from her.

Anyway, I'll try paypal dispute and see what happens...


wow...that was really rude...

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posted October 03, 2014 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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wow...that was really rude...

I wanted a read with Carla a few months back for an issue. She refused to give the per min rate (it was a yes/no question) and said she would only read for a minimum payment of $35.

Just annoying tbh.

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posted October 03, 2014 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Willows (bad) prediction is set to happen this weekend, specifically tomorrow....ugh fingers crossed this doesn't happen

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FairyDust75
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Oh boy, hope it doesn't happen!

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posted October 03, 2014 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got additional message from Carla, I'm just shocked how people can blatantly lie even when there are written evidence.

Here's what she wrote to me in the message: "The reading was for 15 minutes. Not 20. I ws clear in my opening statements about my offer that IF NECESSARY I would go up to 20 minutes."

Where's here's the transcript:
"Me: Well, I was wondering if I could get your $35 for 10 min deal and hopefully get two questions answered 06:20AM
Carla Curlee yes i can do that 06:21AM
Me Great 06:21AM
Carla Curlee and i can do 20 min. for $50 today 06:21AM "

She's still offering free readings and having another reading with her is the last thing I would want after her messages...

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posted October 03, 2014 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Star- it's misrepresentation and blatant laziness from Carla. Take screenshots of the bitwine page and the transcript. You also have 3-5 mins connection time, and trying to sort things out- I don't have a doubt she counted that too.

Tell her you want the money back and will not settle for anything less than that.

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posted October 03, 2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wrote to her in the paypal dispute... So frustrating... Can't believe someone can be so dishonest.

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posted October 03, 2014 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeez I don't understand when readers do that. All for a relatively small amount of money. This is only going to lead bad feedback and she'll lose more in the long run. I had a reading with her before and I remember she was very stringent about time, as in she was saying 'time's up'with like a min or 2 to go. They're all becoming like that unfortunately.

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Hapless- I know what you mean. I usually think that it's just plain stupidity to do that. I've had those experiences, so I just say that payment "went in at 10:12am, it's not 10:22am as yet. Please go on, and I am not counting this minute as I'm notifying you. "

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posted October 03, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for minimini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I wrote to her in the paypal dispute... So frustrating... Can't believe someone can be so dishonest.

complain her to bitwine. so very wrong!

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posted October 03, 2014 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for minimini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
Willows (bad) prediction is set to happen this weekend, specifically tomorrow....ugh fingers crossed this doesn't happen

hey i hope it wont happen
willow (brilliance in sight?) is good at reading current energy but her predictions were like 90% wrong for me....

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