posted August 12, 2014 08:37 AM            

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Originally posted by bakaneko:
Just a thought, but it's more so a correlation of not recognizing the patterns that we condition or in a spiritual sense the lessons that we are missing. It leads into the idea of focusing too much on a prediction, time frame, or something a psychic has said and developing a codependency (to whatever degree) and living any part of life with the vestige of hope that "he will return" because many psychics said he would. That was just an example, but I hope this makes some sense.

Instead of wondering, "Why is he going to call? When is he going to come back?" wouldn't it make more sense to take the time to work on the self, to respect our feelings enough so we stop making excuses for other people's behavior. The delay in my opinion, touches on the idea of LoA and the life lesson which can delay the outcome. For instance, we wait on guy #1, find out there's no chance of being with them but we still cling...meet #2, essentially the same guy in a different shell, same pattern. But we want to find Mr. Right, that connection and spark. If we're focusing so much on these men, are we telling the universe that we're not ready for a relationship because we don't value ourselves enough to know that we deserve better than what these guys can give?

Also from personal experience, if a man wants to be in a relationship with you, if he's ready, he will let you know. He will call when he says he will, he will show up when he says he will. If he needs his space, give it to him and he will return when he is ready.

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posted August 12, 2014 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by bakaneko:
Just a thought, but it's more so a correlation of not recognizing the patterns that we condition or in a spiritual sense the lessons that we are missing. It leads into the idea of focusing too much on a prediction, time frame, or something a psychic has said and developing a codependency (to whatever degree) and living any part of life with the vestige of hope that "he will return" because many psychics said he would. That was just an example, but I hope this makes some sense.

Instead of wondering, "Why is he going to call? When is he going to come back?" wouldn't it make more sense to take the time to work on the self, to respect our feelings enough so we stop making excuses for other people's behavior. The delay in my opinion, touches on the idea of LoA and the life lesson which can delay the outcome. For instance, we wait on guy #1, find out there's no chance of being with them but we still cling...meet #2, essentially the same guy in a different shell, same pattern. But we want to find Mr. Right, that connection and spark. If we're focusing so much on these men, are we telling the universe that we're not ready for a relationship because we don't value ourselves enough to know that we deserve better than what these guys can give?

Also from personal experience, if a man wants to be in a relationship with you, if he's ready, he will let you know. He will call when he says he will, he will show up when he says he will. If he needs his space, give it to him and he will return when he is ready.

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i do agree but if there is a soul lesson and soul contract with someone then i think cutting it off and realising you deserve better they will just linger in your mind while you can't find a deep connection elsewhere from personal experience although you can recognise you are not getting what you want i think that really you can only release properly when the lesson it was meant to teach you has been done.

posted August 12, 2014 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
I ignore all sound advice and go with what my heart and gut tell me to do. I need to feel like for myself that I've done all I can do. And sometimes people do want to be together but issues prevent them. Just cause someone doesn't call you right away doesn't mean they don't think of you or aren't interested. Sometimes people have things that come up and prevent them from reaching it. It's called life. If I gave up just because someone didn't answer my call or text the first time I would have missed out on a lot of great people in my life. I don't think there is one sure fire method as to how to handle relationships.

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posted August 12, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
I ignore all sound advice and go with what my heart and gut tell me to do. I need to feel like for myself that I've done all I can do. And sometimes people do want to be together but issues prevent them. Just cause someone doesn't call you right away doesn't mean they don't think of you or aren't interested. Sometimes people have things that come up and prevent them from reaching it. It's called life. If I gave up just because someone didn't answer my call or text the first time I would have missed out on a lot of great people in my life. I don't think there is one sure fire method as to how to handle relationships.

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...and I haven't called certain persons, either. God knows how much they've spent on marijuana.

posted August 12, 2014 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
I ignore all sound advice and go with what my heart and gut tell me to do. I need to feel like for myself that I've done all I can do. And sometimes people do want to be together but issues prevent them. Just cause someone doesn't call you right away doesn't mean they don't think of you or aren't interested. Sometimes people have things that come up and prevent them from reaching it. It's called life. If I gave up just because someone didn't answer my call or text the first time I would have missed out on a lot of great people in my life. I don't think there is one sure fire method as to how to handle relationships.

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posted August 12, 2014 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I read over these and it really makes me so sad, very sad. To see that there are so many waiting on some guy. You all really really deserve better and you know it. Don't wait on ANYONE. If he is INDECISIVE ...break it off...move on. You def deserve better

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posted August 12, 2014 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I read over these and it really makes me so sad, very sad. To see that there are so many waiting on some guy. You all really really deserve better and you know it. Don't wait on ANYONE. If he is INDECISIVE ...break it off...move on. You def deserve better

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I totally agree with this. Men are naturally born to be pursuers of anything. If he is interested he would at least respond or pick up the phone when you call. If he doesn't, move on, regardless of how much it hurts to do so.

Being in the position of waiting for a man does suck. But we have to be strong. We can miss the opportunity of someone loving us because we couldn't give them our full attention. Most importantly, we miss the opportunity of loving ourselves and getting our lives in order because we couldn't give ourself enough attention.

I believe we all deeply know what's the right thing to do in any given situation, without anyone else's input. God wouldn't leave us out cold like that. Whether we choose to listen to our inner deep selves is a different story.

posted August 12, 2014 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by PrettyVirgo:
I totally agree with this. Men are naturally born to be pursuers of anything. If he is interested he would at least respond or pick up the phone when you call. If he doesn't, move on, regardless of how much it hurts to do so.

Being in the position of waiting for a man does suck. But we have to be strong. We can miss the opportunity of someone loving us because we couldn't give them our full attention. Most importantly, we miss the opportunity of loving ourselves and getting our lives in order because we couldn't give ourself enough attention.

I believe we all deeply know what's the right thing to do in any given situation, without anyone else's input. God wouldn't leave us out cold like that. Whether we choose to listen to our inner deep selves is a different story.

I hope not to offend anyone.

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i guess it depends how you live your life i know one woman who pursued her husband and been married 15 years and another friend who asked a guy out 3 times he rejected her to her face every time and once even said he didn't fancy her but she was going with her intution eventually they got together and he had been so hurt in the past that he had just been terrified of being in a relationship and trying again, they were together for years he was the more keen one and eventually it was her to end it.

posted August 12, 2014 03:17 PM              

I understand about karmic connections and lessons and all of that, and isn't it possibly a lesson to learn to let go? Couldn't a lesson be to recognize that you deserve more than waiting for another and to take better care of your own needs? To possibly allow another the space to learn his own lessons? Maybe his lesson is to learn to quit procrastinating. Maybe your job is to teach him to **** or get off the pot

I know how strong the pull is and I fight the urge to "wait and see". I fight it daily, but I am forcing myself to take better care of myself because the universe recognizes that. I am making myself be open to other possibilities because that effects my own energy, and it has truly started to effect my happiness.

posted August 12, 2014 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by SpiritualSadie:
It is perhaps not a hard and fast rule, but I've learned the hard way that waiting isn't the answer. Are you taking good care of yourself by waiting and closing yourself off to other opportunities? Do you really believe that if you don't wait, it won't happen? I actually believe the opposite is more true.

I understand about karmic connections and lessons and all of that, and isn't it possibly a lesson to learn to let go? Couldn't a lesson be to recognize that you deserve more than waiting for another and to take better care of your own needs? To possibly allow another the space to learn his own lessons? Maybe his lesson is to learn to quit procrastinating. Maybe your job is to teach him to **** or get off the pot

I know how strong the pull is and I fight the urge to "wait and see". I fight it daily, but I am forcing myself to take better care of myself because the universe recognizes that. I am making myself be open to other possibilities because that effects my own energy, and it has truly started to effect my happiness.

I'm getting really happy doing things on my own, with my friends and family, and believe it or not, it has started shaping a new idea of what I want in my life. I've realized that I actually appreciate some space of my own and will need my partner to accommodate that. Never thought I'd say that lol.

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I don't think it's about waiting it's about taking the lesson and learning it not waiting. Sometimes that might be to express, to build a boundary, to forgive, to listen, to let go.......
I guess each case is different I'm in a rather different situation but have been in the waiting one on a soul connection and I didn't get over him for 3 years or look at another man then I did a twin flame course got told my lesson / core wound and like that he slipped out my mind and I met someone new two days later with a. Strong connection.

I don't believe you can run.

posted August 12, 2014 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by SandyShore:
Any thoughts about Rares Mardares anybody?

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He has an interesting style about him... reading the cards and telling you what each card means...

I asked him whether relocation from work will happen and he told me that it won't and I need to know that even if it did it wouldn't have been good. This was at a point where I had like 4 readings tell me - yep it was going to happen so I was a bit angry .... he was right.

He told me I'll meet this person and described how I'll meet him by the end of June - I met that person in July, exactly the situation Rares has described.

Thing is, when Rares told me about this person I told him it didn't sound like a great relationship (with ups and downs) and Rares told me he doesn't just tell the good... it also showed the 3 of swords (usually shows heartbreak) end of the year. Well it's been up and down already with this guy (and it's only Aug) I don't see it going much further (unlike Rares reading).

posted August 12, 2014 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by SpiritualSadie:
It is perhaps not a hard and fast rule, but I've learned the hard way that waiting isn't the answer. Are you taking good care of yourself by waiting and closing yourself off to other opportunities? Do you really believe that if you don't wait, it won't happen? I actually believe the opposite is more true.

I understand about karmic connections and lessons and all of that, and isn't it possibly a lesson to learn to let go? Couldn't a lesson be to recognize that you deserve more than waiting for another and to take better care of your own needs? To possibly allow another the space to learn his own lessons? Maybe his lesson is to learn to quit procrastinating. Maybe your job is to teach him to **** or get off the pot

I know how strong the pull is and I fight the urge to "wait and see". I fight it daily, but I am forcing myself to take better care of myself because the universe recognizes that. I am making myself be open to other possibilities because that effects my own energy, and it has truly started to effect my happiness.

I'm getting really happy doing things on my own, with my friends and family, and believe it or not, it has started shaping a new idea of what I want in my life. I've realized that I actually appreciate some space of my own and will need my partner to accommodate that. Never thought I'd say that lol.

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posted August 12, 2014 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by PSYCHE:
i tried diana shoshone the other day she was excellent actually she reads like i do although she's very good but focuses on the issues and what you can do to further the situation i like to be told my lessons and what to do

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posted August 12, 2014 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
What site are they on?

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posted August 12, 2014 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by blessed39:
Does anyone know if K4S is on any other site other than Keen?

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posted August 12, 2014 10:59 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by blessed39:
[b]Does anyone know if K4S is on any other site other than Keen?

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posted August 12, 2014 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by St@r2013:
He has an interesting style about him... reading the cards and telling you what each card means...

I asked him whether relocation from work will happen and he told me that it won't and I need to know that even if it did it wouldn't have been good. This was at a point where I had like 4 readings tell me - yep it was going to happen so I was a bit angry .... he was right.

He told me I'll meet this person and described how I'll meet him by the end of June - I met that person in July, exactly the situation Rares has described.

Thing is, when Rares told me about this person I told him it didn't sound like a great relationship (with ups and downs) and Rares told me he doesn't just tell the good... it also showed the 3 of swords (usually shows heartbreak) end of the year. Well it's been up and down already with this guy (and it's only Aug) I don't see it going much further (unlike Rares reading).

I guess he has been one of the more accurate readers for me on bitwine because his prediction actually happened... doesn't happen to often for me with bitwine readers...

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posted August 13, 2014 01:21 AM            

i used to surf LP (now kasamba), this Jaye is really good. i dont use Kasamba now because i found good ones in bitwine.

however he is good that i have to recommend.

he is very down to earth; very practical; he tells you what he sees, no sugar coating. i was messing up with 2 guys by that time; one is P who is married one is A (yes A the A who wasted my 3 yrs lol) Jaye was very accurate about P and A, their personality, predictions everything. He said P will end his marriage but it will be a LONG wait and been 3 yrs and he is still married & still fighting; and he said A if you remain he remains he is not going anywhere but to be truely committed it will be a long wait too because this guy is so reserved and so nervous and he has no clue about women & relationship, it will take him forever to learn. Now i re read his transcripts, he was so right; i am pretty sure if i chose to stay with A we will get there, he really does like me but he also is really really reserved and nervous. so how long is the question.....

so end up just like K4S said, do not waste your time on him. and B popped up that took all my attention.