posted December 27, 2015 11:31 AM              

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Originally posted by happyaskings:
So instead of hopelessly asking about a guy I'm interested it, I did that thing we've all wondered about on here and started asking psychics about a guy that I made up. It started off purely for entertainment as I figured with as wrong as most psychics end up being, I was wasting my money either way, and the results where not surprising. All of them were able to "pick up" on this IMAGINARY guy. All of them gave very similar readings to what I've had in the past. I came up with specific questions (put a lot of thought and detail into this fake person) just to be sure they couldn't read into anyone around me. Fascinating stuff, stay tuned for a list...

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Sorry to say, but lying as a customer is as a bad as lying as a reader or being a fake psychic. I often see in my cards the client is lying, but it is not an easy task to communicate this, you can't just say "you are lying to me", you are forced to be diplomatic and gentle about it.
And if they read about your imaginary friend, what does it prove? Everything we create with our minds, every story, can be read and seen as if real. Of course, they probably told you there is no future, since he doesn't exist. Or maybe they saw in there you spending lots of money with this game?
When you plant a lie, you'll only get another lie.

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posted December 27, 2015 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Hmm...maybe this is the case with card readers but what about real psychics? Shouldn't they see the truth? Maybe a real and true psychic would reply "can't connect§ if a client is lying resp. makes up a story

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I agree with this, or even the cards can show something like a break in communication, fantasizing, separation, distance, etc, etc. Instead of telling them the opposite like "I see this person and you dating, blabla"

At the end of the day we're not God so not everyone will be able to pick things up, or be an honest reader. Sometimes the readers won't notice at all that the person is making it up because they trust that the person genuinely needs help..

Edited to add: I try to be a different reader and tune into the current situation and even provide refunds if the clients feel I'm off (too bad I can't do this on other platforms - just on Bitwine). But that's what I do usually..I don't like people lying to me or wasting my time as a reader because I'm usually the type to provide refunds and not take your money if there's no connection at all..

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posted December 27, 2015 12:16 PM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Hmm...maybe this is the case with card readers but what about real psychics? Shouldn't they see the truth? Maybe a real and true psychic would reply "can't connect§ if a client is lying resp. makes up a story

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posted December 27, 2015 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I heard this before, and I was asked: but are you a psychic too? if card readers weren't psychics, how would they be able to draw cards predicting future accurately, and interpret them? Maybe interpretation can be blamed on knowledge and learning, but the ability to draw them in the first place is purely the psychic gift, which is a channel with the astral some people have open.
The tools you use to read past present future, feelings, minds and hearts is irrelevant, as long as you can do it.

I guess any psychic can refuse a client if they wish, based on the fact that they are lying. Personally, I just answer the question, for normally it should contain the truth, and counteract the lie. For example, the future with an imaginary friend shouldn't exist, it will be seen in there. There are questions I refuse to answer though such as "I want to kill my grandma and inherit her castle, which method will work best: poison or fire? "

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posted December 27, 2015 12:20 PM              

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A psychic born person doesn't need any tools.

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posted December 27, 2015 12:24 PM              

I think it's important to know, and I know Enneline you saw some pretty horrid things yourself, and I am sure Empress and others know what I am talking about, that we also see some horror movie things, not just pink bows and rainbows. And talking about them, except for the cases when you can actually warn someone, doesn't help. For some of them are unavoidable, such as death.

posted December 27, 2015 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Not always true. There are many who use their clairvoyance, and other gifts and use tools.

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Omg I'm so sorry. I hit "edit" instead of quoting your post!! I can't undo it though, so sorry about that

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posted December 27, 2015 12:32 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I heard this before, and I was asked: but are you a psychic too? if card readers weren't psychics, how would they be able to draw cards predicting future accurately, and interpret them? Maybe interpretation can be blamed on knowledge and learning, but the ability to draw them in the first place is purely the psychic gift, which is a channel with the astral some people have open.
The tools you use to read past present future, feelings, minds and hearts is irrelevant, as long as you can do it.

I guess any psychic can refuse a client if they wish, based on the fact that they are lying. Personally, I just answer the question, for normally it should contain the truth, and counteract the lie. For example, the future with an imaginary friend shouldn't exist, it will be seen in there. There are questions I refuse to answer though such as "I want to kill my grandma and inherit her castle, which method will work best: poison or fire? "

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okay, i am a card reader and so i am psychic I thought anyone can read cards if he has studied them for a while. A psychic born person doesn't need any tools. But of course there are variations and it's not just black and white. But maybe you are right: what amount of studies could compensate the lack of talent?

posted December 27, 2015 12:34 PM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
okay, i am a card reader and so i am psychic I thought anyone can read cards if he has studied them for a while. A psychic born person doesn't need any tools. But of course there are variations and it's not just black and white. But maybe you are right: what amount of studies could compensate the lack of talent?

Wow, great questions you get! I only get "will he call me?" - "What does he feel for me?" -> i only offer professional readings now and then

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I'll redirect those to you.

I think it's important to know, and I know Enneline you saw some pretty horrid things yourself, and I am sure Empress and others know what I am talking about, that we also see some horror movie things, not just pink bows and rainbows. And talking about them, except for the cases when you can actually warn someone, doesn't help. For some of them are unavoidable, such as death.

Actually no, I have to disagree, it's about the method, and I just discussed this with someone. Having visions (not relying on any tools) using just the big 3: clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, for real, is very consuming, it's a state of trance, it can't be done in a few minutes for hundreds of people, and if someone is claiming they are doing it like this, my guess is they aren't. Very few people are actually doing it, and not as a fast food chain.
The cards, although drawn in a state of trance as well, make the process faster, more objective and independent of your state of mind. Otherwise, what you need to do is close your eyes, focus, and see, hear, sense an entire script. I am not talking about intuitives, but about seeing the future by means of inner visions, a sequence of events, instead of outer symbolism.

posted December 27, 2015 12:38 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'll redirect those to you.

I think it's important to know, and I know Enneline you saw some pretty horrid things yourself, and I am sure Empress and others know what I am talking about, that we also see some horror movie things, not just pink bows and rainbows. And talking about them, except for the cases when you can actually warn someone, doesn't help. For some of them are unavoidable, such as death.

Actually no, I have to disagree, it's about the method, and I just discussed this with someone. Having visions (not relying on any tools) using just the big 3: clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, for real, is very consuming, it's a state of trance, it can't be done in a few minutes for hundreds of people, and if someone is claiming they are doing it like this, my guess is they aren't. Very few people are actually doing it, and not as a fast food chain.
The cards, although drawn in a state of trance as well, make the process faster. Otherwise, what you need to do is close your eyes, focus, and see, hear, sense an entire script. I am not talking about intuitives, but about seeing the future by means of inner visions, a sequence of events, instead of outer symbolism.

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posted December 27, 2015 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
yeah, but i have a lot of fantasy - seriously, i really hate psychics (not personally but their approach) who provide bad predictions without seeing the positive or even another time line.
That is why i practive time line readings- i want to help to create a better future resp. avoiding to step on the wrong time line. It doesn't help to predict that someone is going to be raped- i would help her not to even get on that time line.

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If something is destined to happen, there's no way one can avoid it sadly. But this is just my belief

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posted December 27, 2015 12:43 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

What do you think a psychic with no tools does to read your future, for example to describe a future event and when it happens?

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posted December 27, 2015 12:52 PM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Just sees them like a movie. And it doesn't drain. But i only feel like that when i have flashes- but this happens not often

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Yes, exactly. Would you be able to generate the flashes in a few minutes of chat, or for many people? Is it reliable? No. Sometimes you can see, sometimes you can't, not because it's not there, but because it is difficult and requires a special atmosphere, and it depends a lot on your own state of mind, health etc.
And sometimes there are spontaneous flashes.

Plus, most people want to know something specific, so you need to focus to travel with your mind to that specific event, to have a target, not what you get, spontaneously.
If I did this regularly, I won't be able to have a life, I'd be in heavy trance all day. I can only to do it in special conditions, and I know what it requires, so I am suspicious when someone tells me they can do it in a matter of minutes.
Intuition is different than visions, you talk to the person, and it can even be online, and you "feel" the answer, you get like an idea about it, not a flash.

posted December 27, 2015 01:04 PM              

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
If something is destined to happen, there's no way one can avoid it sadly. But this is just my belief

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