posted November 07, 2016 02:24 PM            

Love & Light!
God Bless!

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"Do good and good will come to you. Be kind and kindness will surround you. Be fair and receive justice along your path. Have compassion and you'll live with a full heart." - Mes Rael

posted November 07, 2016 09:53 PM            

Thats so funny we randomly hit the forum back at the same time! Hope you're well, I'll send you a message <3

posted November 09, 2016 03:04 AM            

https://www.psychictwins.com/index.php/2016/09/23/psychic-twins-documented-world-predictions/

posted November 09, 2016 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by tinkerbug:
So The Psychic Twins predicted that Hillary Clinton would be elected President, however the prediction turned out wrong..

https://www.psychictwins.com/index.php/2016/09/23/psychic-twins-documented-world-predictions/

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Thank God! Hopefully he'll do all that he says. Even if just does partially, it'll still help our country.

Actually knew it. (Did I share that with you, Sunshineluv7, when we talked?).

I shared with a few, but not too many, because not many liked my thought/idea/flash, that if Trump watches his mouth, he'll get in. And I say now that if he does what he sets out to do, he'll be in for 8 years.

Happy Wednesday!
Love & Light!
God Bless!

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"Do good and good will come to you. Be kind and kindness will surround you. Be fair and receive justice along your path. Have compassion and you'll live with a full heart." - Mes Rael

posted November 09, 2016 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
I found her time frames to be generally correct, but one or two predictions were way off. It didn't happen or happened but much later. I personally don't think anyone can get relationships fully right. Re the amazingly accurate ones - she said someone would visit me in March when I was adamant they wouldn't (then 3 months ahead) and that was correct. Then at the start for the year, she predicted Autumn for another contact - true also. She made one prediction for this month - will see how that goes.

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Hi Astro keen, i just had a reading with Eva a few hours ago. As i said i wanted to know if she could give specifics, but she could not. Telling me that he will be more warm by December does not really say anything at all. He is already warm with me, how much more warm can he get? Its not really an indicator of anything, let alone a prediction and still extremely vague.
I asked for and received a refund, i think she is a wonderful person but i was disappointed with this attempt, and also the first reading.
I've read an excellent review where someone reported she correctly predicted they'd find work in Greece. Thats an example of something specific.

posted November 10, 2016 05:35 AM              

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Originally posted by CrimsonRed:
Thank God! Hopefully he'll do all that he says. Even if just does partially, it'll still help our country.

Actually knew it. (Did I share that with you, Sunshineluv7, when we talked?).

I shared with a few, but not too many, because not many liked my thought/idea/flash, that if Trump watches his mouth, he'll get in. And I say now that if he does what he sets out to do, he'll be in for 8 years.

Happy Wednesday!
Love & Light!
God Bless!

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Well, as a seer of the future, I can tell you he won't do those things (a wall between US and Mexico, tagging and deporting Muslims and Hispanics and random ethnicities, persecuting LGBT and the other enlightened projects), sorry for the upcoming disappointment. What baffles me is someone believing Trump "watched his mouth" I don't mean to seem condescending, but he is the opposite of that, he won because he didn't watch his mouth, it's all he had, the appeal to a darker side, to the Shadow. But we all know any confrontation of the Shadow is due and can only lead to light, eventually.

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posted November 10, 2016 05:53 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, as a seer of the future, I can tell you he won't do those things (a wall between US and Mexico, tagging and deporting Muslims and Hispanics and random ethnicities, persecuting LGBT and the other enlightened projects), sorry for the upcoming disappointment. What baffles me is someone believing Trump "watched his mouth" I don't mean to seem condescending, but he is the opposite of that, he won because he didn't watch his mouth, it's all he had, the appeal to a darker side, to the Shadow. But we all know any confrontation of the Shadow is due and can only lead to light, eventually.

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posted November 10, 2016 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by tinkerbug:
Hi CrimsonRed, if Trump is the best man for your country than I am happy for you.
I'm wondering how the Psychic Twins will explain this one..

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Hi tinkerbug (very cute username btw *smile*)
I truly hope so, but only time will tell, naturally.

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posted November 10, 2016 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, as a seer of the future, I can tell you he won't do those things (a wall between US and Mexico, tagging and deporting Muslims and Hispanics and random ethnicities, persecuting LGBT and the other enlightened projects), sorry for the upcoming disappointment. What baffles me is someone believing Trump "watched his mouth" I don't mean to seem condescending, but he is the opposite of that, he won because he didn't watch his mouth, it's all he had, the appeal to a darker side, to the Shadow. But we all know any confrontation of the Shadow is due and can only lead to light, eventually.

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Naturally we all have our own outlooks and opinions, and can only express that which we think and feel.

I'll copy/paste, just for interest, something I wrote on an international site, where those, living abroad were discussing Trumps outlooks and future policies on immigration and such. Just sharing. If not interested, then just ignore.

I feel that Trump is going to do well for us, Americans. And because he's going to do well for us, everyone else, our friends (and everyone else also) around the world will benefit.

Growing up in the same neighborhood as Trump, I can see a very similar type of spirit in him that was part of my own background and upbringing. We were taught to respect what our freedom in this country means, and how lucky we are to live in the greatest country in the world. How we have the greatest opportunities to better our lives and the lives of our families.

So we care. We love America. We're usually pretty fair and quite strong. And I feel that Trump has those attributes also.

As I said in a previous post, I believe that he wants America great so that his children, grandchildren, etc., will have the benefit of a great America, the way it used to be. Towards this end, I think and feel that he will do what it takes to achieve that.

Does he have political experience? I don't think it matters. In his position he's able to surround himself with the best people, who will advise him correctly, so that he can achieve what he intends to. Just like he surrounded himself as a businessman with some terrific people, so that he was able to build his empire and achieve. In the same way he'll surround himself with those who will fill in the swiss cheese holes that exist in his experience, so that again, he will achieve.

Ergo, I feel he will do well. And finally our true and greatest friends... like G.B. and Israel can again feel secure in our friendship and loyalty to them.

Since his family also isn't indigenous to America (he's not Native American), he understands what it means to come to this country (even if through stories from his family) and build a 'good life in America'. He understand the meaning of being a 'melting pot' (as do I, being a naturalized citizen).

New Yorkers, growing up where and when both he and I did, was one of the greatest 'melting pots'. New Yorkers, at that time prided themselves on being that. Therefore I'm sure it's ingrained in him as it is in me. America is great BECAUSE of all us immigrants, whether coming here in this millennium or the previous one. But legally.... that's the operative word... legally. So I know, that with that outlook, immigration is something he'll probably straighten out. And so it should be.

Therefore, God Bless America! God Bless our new President!

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"Do good and good will come to you. Be kind and kindness will surround you. Be fair and receive justice along your path. Have compassion and you'll live with a full heart." - Mes Rael

posted November 10, 2016 10:00 AM              

We are all migrants and I am happy at the thought Mr Trump and the other immigrants who voted for him will remember where they come from and use the lessons of the past and present to bring love and light.

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posted November 10, 2016 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
God Bless America, Crimson! Thank you for your detailed reply. I believe, and a 200,000 years history backs up my belief, that no greatness is possible on a foundation of hatred, segregation, racism, sexism, bigotry, warmongering, crudeness, verbal and physical assault, violence, arrogance, ignorance, discrimination of all kinds for things we cannot control such as our gender, race, sexual orientation, skin color, place of birth, such as no greatness is possible for one individual or one nation in the detriment of others, and no country or person is above others, “We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home.” The love and light is universal (spirit) or it (spirit) doesn't exist.

We are all migrants and I am happy at the thought Mr Trump and the other immigrants who voted for him will remember where they come from and use the lessons of the past and present to bring love and light.

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I totally agree with you that, as you said, "no greatness is possible on a foundation of hatred, segregation, racism, sexism, bigotry, warmongering, crudeness, verbal and physical assault, violence, arrogance, ignorance, discrimination of all kinds for things, etc.".

I remain hopeful. In the same way, that many years ago, many Americans were ROFWL that Reagan, an 'actor' will become President, and "Oh My! What is this country coming it??!", and he turned out to be a fabulous President. I will remain hopeful. But I don't want to get into politics... lol. Especially since this is not the right venue for all that, right?

But I do want to say...

I also agree with you that, again as you said, “We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home.”.

Here's the lyrics to a beautiful song, or so I think, that pretty much describes life to many. I'll copy and paste the Lyrics here, and I'll put a link for the audio, which btw takes a bit to load, but in my opinoin it's really worth it.

MISEN ØRNEN MISEN - FORGIVENESS LYRICS

I'm ... I'm a roamer in time
I travel alone
Throughout an endless journey
Home ... Where is my home?
Fragments of a love life
I won't surrender

When the spirits are calling my name
Then I will have passed all the sorrow and pain
And I'll go to heaven with you
I'll lay down my head on your pillow
And ask for forgiveness

Once I was just a child
I saw wide open
You left me broken hearted
Fly ... I have to fly
Searching for the light
I won't surrender

When the spirits are calling my name
Then I will have passed all the sorrow and pain
And I'll go to heaven with you
I'll lay down my head on your pillow
And ask for forgiveness

I'm ... I'm a roamer in time
I travel alone
Throughout an endless journey
Home ... Where is my home?
Fragments of a love life
I won't surrender

When the spirits are calling my name
Then I will have passed all the sorrow and pain
And I'll go to heaven with you
I'll lay down my head on your pillow
And ask for forgiveness
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18vp61_ornen-the-eagle-forgiveness-jac ob-groth-ft-misen-lyrics_music

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"Do good and good will come to you. Be kind and kindness will surround you. Be fair and receive justice along your path. Have compassion and you'll live with a full heart." - Mes Rael

posted November 10, 2016 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, as a seer of the future, I can tell you he won't do those things (a wall between US and Mexico, tagging and deporting Muslims and Hispanics and random ethnicities, persecuting LGBT and the other enlightened projects), sorry for the upcoming disappointment. What baffles me is someone believing Trump "watched his mouth" I don't mean to seem condescending, but he is the opposite of that, he won because he didn't watch his mouth, it's all he had, the appeal to a darker side, to the Shadow. But we all know any confrontation of the Shadow is due and can only lead to light, eventually.

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so so so well said!!!!

posted November 11, 2016 08:02 AM            

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"I requested a refund."

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Because I have seen this posted by many who have taken readings, I want to comment on it. I'm not including who posted this, that part isn't important because it's been posted now several times by several different people.

Also note that I'm replying to the concept of this, not the individual.

So imagine this scenario...

You are hired by a company to work, and are told what they want you to do. You go to work, you do what has been asked of you to the best of your ability, and at the end of your day (or at the end of your job/task) you are told by the company that they are not satisfied with your work and they will not pay you.

What?!?!

You would surely have a law suit on your hands. You can't NOT be paid for the work you've done. You can be fired... not asked to work there ever again, but for that day/job/task you have to get paid!

And if you didn't get paid, how would you feel?! (never mind the legality of it) Wouldn't it anger you? Or at least upset you? Maybe even for days. For some longer. The damage that was done by that company to you mentally, emotionally! Not fair, right?! YOU did your best and what they did to you was totally unfair. No?

Then there is the aspect of Karma. What goes around comes around.

You hired that person to do something for you. Granted, you can be dis-satisfied, so then don't go to that person again. But to not pay them! To ask for a refund. How unfair is that?!

And those that do that, well, in my opinion that is going to come back to them. They too, at some point will be treated or experience unfairness of that nature. It's only a matter of time. Food for thought.

If you're not satisfied with the reading, why not just end it and go elsewhere? Why let that person do their job, go through the whole reading, only to then say to them "oh, sorry, don't like what you said so I'm not paying you."

Take a minute by minute reading, don't take a package, so that you can see how you really connect with that person. And if you don't connect, end it. But why take a reading and then not pay the person for their work? How fair is that?

Here's another couple of scenario..

A person goes to the doctor. The doctor gives a diagnosis which is incorrect. Does the doctor not get their fee for the visit? Of course he does. Have you ever heard of someone getting a refund from a doctor's office? Or a psychologists office? Or any other 'service' oriented business? Of course not! So then why do so many think that it's ok to get a 'refund' from a psychic?

You go to a reastaurant, order a steak, eat the steak and then after you've eaten it say "You know... I really didn't like that steak, I'm not paying for it." You think you can do that? You think the restaurant is going to side with you? Of course not. Now if you take a couple of bites and then say, 'gee, I don't like this steak'... they will be happy to take it away and bring you something else. But after eating the whole steak, you are not entitled to a refund. So why do people think that they are entitled to a refund from a psychic?

Are psychics not people like everyone else? Whey do they deserve to be treated like that? I just don't get how anyone could justify to themselves taking someone's efforts and not compensating for them!?

Having someone do something (a job) and then not paying them is theft. You're stealing that persons time AND lying to them. Because you initially agreed to pay them for their time and effort. They gave you their time and effort, yet you didn't keep your part, as agreed. You cheated them, therefore stole from them.

Just saying, you know?

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"Do good and good will come to you. Be kind and kindness will surround you. Be fair and receive justice along your path. Have compassion and you'll live with a full heart." - Mes Rael

posted November 11, 2016 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What baffles me is someone believing Trump "watched his mouth" I don't mean to seem condescending, but he is the opposite of that, he won because he didn't watch his mouth, it's all he had, the appeal to a darker side, to the Shadow.

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posted November 11, 2016 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by happyaskings:
@CR I've never actually asked for a refund before because I think it would be somewhat futile, but I DO work as a contractor (meaning I get asked to do specific jobs and I get paid half up front and half when the job is PROPERLY completed). I have to disagree with some of what you've said. If the job isn't done right, the client is entitled to some kind of refund, not an entire refund but a partial on at least. In fact, if I don't do my assignments properly and in a timely manner they can technically take ME to court. So I make it a point to get it right the first time and if I feel I can't, I turn the job down. You're either confident in your work or you're not. If you're not, don't take on the work.

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Hey happyaskings,

Thank you for replying.

Ooo... sorry I hit a nerve. Don't take it personally... I wasn't talking to anyone specific. Just saying, you know?

It seems to be an issue on several psychic sites, it seems to be an issue also on Bitwine, and I find what some people do very unfair and not right. So I expressed my thoughts and opinions in a forum that many people frequent, who use psychic services.

Actually, though... it looks like you're not really disagreeing with me. You seem to be using a different scenario. For your scenario, I would agree with what you said.

In your scenario your inital contract, which you agree to, as you said, states that 1/2 up front and 1/2 when the job is completed, and completed to their satisfaciton. You probably also have a clause that talks about legalities.

I, on my contract, which on a psychic site, is my profile, state that a person/client is hiring me and compensating me for my time. Not if they're happy with the reading. My time. (And if they can refund my time, I'll refund their compensation.) So that's 'my' contract.

Different.

We, psychics, also have a 'trial period', during which the client can decide if they want to 'hire' that psychic or not. Most psychic places are like that. Not all. But many. Like Bitwine (where the client has 3 free minutes up front to see if they connect).

I make mention about that in my post above...

And just to add... psychics aren't contracted for anything lengthy or large... a contract lasting days, weeks or months.

Apples to apples, is what I say. Can't do apples to oranges or apples to melons.

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GOD BLESS!
"Do good and good will come to you. Be kind and kindness will surround you. Be fair and receive justice along your path. Have compassion and you'll live with a full heart." - Mes Rael

posted November 11, 2016 03:05 PM            

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Very well said
@chrimson

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LOVE & LIGHT!
GOD BLESS!
"Do good and good will come to you. Be kind and kindness will surround you. Be fair and receive justice along your path. Have compassion and you'll live with a full heart." - Mes Rael

posted November 11, 2016 10:09 PM            

I'm not saying every client that whines about a refund should get one, but I think for readers to take a "you get what your given approach" lack empathy for their clients and are a bit arrogant. I think if there was truth in the reading or the client got something they need from it, there shouldn't be a refund even if predictions don't end up happening. But if half way through the session the client says "this seems off..." they are entitled to a refund.

posted November 12, 2016 10:58 AM            

My two cents FWIW -- I think that anyone who works for themselves has the right to set the terms of their business how they see they fit. A contractor, usually sets up "half up front, half later" because it saves them from the person not paying them at all -- which as you know, can happen. Others don't do that, and then want payment at the end, and don't get it - so they lost money putting money IN to the project. Some demand it all up front, then don't do the work, which hurts the person purchasing! So the 50/50 balance is fair. But again, it's up to the contractor/client to agree to those terms.

With something like a T-shirt, when you buy it/return it there's a physical good and the shop can then sell it to someone else. When you're dealing with a spiritual gift/time, then you can't really go back and give them back that part of their gift/time, so they can't sell it to someone else.

I used to think not having refunds was mean too, but then I thought of it this way - if I go to a therapist or a doctor, when I go see them I'm agreeing to pay if I go through with the appointment. In some cases, they even charge a no-show fee if I don't show up! If I then go through the appointment and think I got nothing out of it or whatever else, I don't then file a dispute. In that case there is no "goods" exchanged but expertise, and it's kind of the same thing with psychics.The difference with psychics is that there is no "governing body" or exam to pass, so you can't really be sure of how talented they really are when you go in for a reading. So it's kind of a buyer beware. If I go to a new reader I do my due diligence, which looks like this:

-Read all the negative reviews. Most people leave positive ones immediately after a reading, with no time to pass. The negatives, just like on amazon, can tip you off to what MIGHT happen on a bad day (or bad item, like amazon) so then I know I"m going in fully prepared. If two or more negatives say the same thing, and I don't like it (like, "she tried to sell me on a $200 spell--when spellwork isn't advertised at all on the profile") then I don't go in.
-Read the medium reviews. I find these are generally people who might be upset with the reading content/left by more balanced individuals, but it's good to know.
-Scan positive reviews for comments about what came to pass. I don't really care about the short comments, or the ones where they say "I hope it comes true!" show me proof.

After all that if I go in to consult with a new reader, I see what they say during that 3 minute "introduction" - if they don't get anything specific on the situation, and it seems scripted - something like - "'I'm sensing a lot of energy from the heart chakra, I can sense you're here for relationship reasons" - then I don't go forward.

I swear, having interacted with enough "smoke and mirror" readers over the years I could probably set up shop as a reader and get positive reviews from most people, who don't know how to tell the difference lolol. You know, demand birthdays, throw back some "characteristics" (like, "Is he stubborn?" for a taurus) and have people be like, WOW! LOL

Anyway, bottom line - refunds to me for a psychic, I've accepted that if I make the choice, unless they are absolutely horrific I don't go through with refunds. The only time I ever requested a refund (and lost via paypal) was from someone who first reading said one thing, and next one something completely different. And then I take responsibility for being a smart consumer, ultimately. It's not like intuitives yank us into their paid chats and abra-ca-dabra their way into our paypal accounts

Re:Trump, both Crimson and CindyS (two of the three readers I mentioned previously) called Trump as the winner. That's one of the reasons I have stuck with them both for more than a year now!! Talent. The types of readers who say something and you go "no way" and then it happens. And this is just an example, not going to share too personal stories in a public forum.