posted November 12, 2016 11:58 AM              

You appear to be as blinkered about what counts for greatness and fairness as Trump. No wonder you support him. And who said USA was the greatest country in the world??! What self-delusional tosh! Firstly, how could someone as divisive and bigoted as Trump be good for your country or anywhere?

This is a highly contested fact: Reagan was a fabulous president. No, he wasn't!

You wish to make Israel feel secure. What about the rights of Palestinians?

Trump's latest policy statement on Israel demonizes -- even criminalises university students supportive of the Palestinian cause and the entire Palestinian people in their aspiration for self-determination.

posted November 13, 2016 06:18 AM            

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Originally posted by intuitivefish:
Maybe best to open a political thread some place?

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I agree, intuitivefish. And as I said in my previous post, which I'll copy and paste here:

"But I don't want to get into politics... lol. Especially since this is not the right venue for all that, right?"

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posted November 13, 2016 06:22 AM            

Just remember.. Karma, Karmam, Karma! And then don't be suprprised!

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posted November 13, 2016 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
You started it Crimson Red! Who asked you to rave about Trump in this forum anyway.

And please don't send me any love and light. Receiving that from Trump supporters is plain creepy!

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Sorry you have nobody else to have an argument with. For your info... and then please go away...

Tinkerbug wrote: "So The Psychic Twins predicted that Hillary Clinton would be elected President, however the prediction turned out wrong..
https://www.psychictwins.com/index.php/2016/09/23/psychic-twins-documented-world-predictions/"

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posted November 13, 2016 09:18 AM            

Good, less work for me then. lol

Very well, I'll leave you to your own miseries.

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posted November 13, 2016 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by happyaskings:
I don't get how we even got on politics in the first place. You had a 50/50 chance, getting an election right doesn't mean your psychic. After the most recent Hilary scandal it wasn't that surprising Trump won. Now we just get to see who our bigoted friends are. Yippie.

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- Happy - I only said that because someone brought up the AstroTwins... AND I did find some of my favorite readers FROM this forum, including Crimson!! So thank you forum at large for that. Yep, a few people mentioned her wayyy back and I read a few of her posts, liked her personality so I did a reading or two, and when she turned out right for me I kept going back. And now I endorse those who work for me so others needing help can find their way over to someone who might work for them. I don't chime in on those who don't work for me if the are active here, as I do believe it's about personal connection to a certain extent and it seems a handful of really popular ones don't work for me (like, AbundantVisions - I'll name her since she isn't on this forum - worked first time, then never again).

And FWIW, Happy and Astro who are sitting there saying Crimson started it - read the thread again - Tinker is the one who brought up politics. So doesn't that then open it up to discussion? Why is anyone jumping all over someone for opinions?

This is actually hypocrisy at its finest actually, sitting there talking about how hatred, crudeness, verbal assault are not what we should stand for and then proceeding to do that exact same thing. If you haven't actually noticed, Crimson hasn't said anything about any of your opinions, merely stated her own, and then defended herself, and yet several of you attack. WTF? And Astro - the type of division "don't send me love" is EXACTLY what is causing this type of division on a large scale, and fear, within our world. Cause somewhere along the way people forgot how to "play nice". Are you not doing exactly what you (and others) believe Trump does/did? State something about an entire person (or race) based on a thing that may have happened at one point. Seriously. And I can flat out guarantee you there are a huge number of people who feel the same way Crimson does about Trump, because otherwise - shocker - he wouldn't have won. LOL. Nobody disputes he said some @$$hole things, and he would do well to go to "charm school", BUT the "Status quo" politicians in office were hurting this country -- and that's what is always happening right before our presidency changes political sides. People largely voted Obama in because we were scared of what would happen to our nation if we stayed Republican, and then with Obama in for 8 years others got scared of what would happen if it kept going that way. So at the end of the day? YAY FOR CHECKS AND BALANCES ON POWER!

Were we never taught this:

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” - SOCRATES

Life lesson - if you're uncomfortable in a conversation, stick to the facts. Don't go name-calling. Didn't we all learn that from the debates?

& agree with IntuitiveFish - should prob be on a politics forum, ahah! Clearly the people who chimed in all have strong feelings about what's going on, as is our right, and - honestly - that's one of the great things ABOUT places like the US, where we have freedom of speech and won't get our tongues cut off (or fingers) for expressing ourselves, like is still a reality in some nations.

But let's go back on topic - the esoteric. Peep this:
http://astrologsmiljanagavrancic.blogspot.com/2015/09/white-house-22-gemini-and-donald-trump.html

Written in Sept 2015 - an astrologer explains exactly why, astrologically, Trump was likely to win. The analysis there is wwayyy over my head, but for those of you who really dig in, it might be an interesting read!

[[mic drop/gets off soap box]]

posted November 17, 2016 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by ProxyxBlue:
Wow, seems like the presidential situation is heating up this last few post. Either way, even though people have their own opinions, for me, I didn't think either Hillary or Trump were good candidates. Although Hillary has the polical background, she had a lot of baggage with everything that happened. Then there is Trump, who has only business under his belt and not the proper experience to run a country. Not only that there was a lot of negative things he said during his campaign that offended millions; racist statements and making fun of a man with a disability, and the list goes on. Words cannot be unsaid and the citizens of America remember his words, which is why there were so many people who were, and still are, upset he won. Many people are afraid, especially POC.

None of us can predict how he will run the country, but he definitely did not leave a good impression for most of America.

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Truer words were never spoken, but I did want Hillary to win.

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posted November 20, 2016 11:00 AM            

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Truer words were never spoken, but I did want Hillary to win.

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posted November 22, 2016 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Infatuation423:
Intuitivefish, have you tried Dino on there? He's pretty good and tells it like it is, no sugar coating.

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I used to go to him, but he was all wrong for me. The opposite happened, but either way I'm happy where I am in life now. Therefore, I no longer pay for BitWine readers and I haven't spoken to AV in months! As she was wrong too, now that I really think about it.

EDIT: I'll correct that and say Dino's predictions were right in the beginning, but started to falter, and the outcome was wrong.