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posted November 04, 2019 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I feel an obligation to like her bc she half black like me, but her not introducing her father to Harry before they marry was just too weird, like she didn't want him to ruin the possibility of a marriage with Harry.

What she said made the Royal family look bad, even if that wasn't her intention.To have such experienced people around her that have dealt with the media..especially Kate(being called waity katy) queen, charles(who walked her down the aisle) Phillip, its weird she wouldn't have gone to them to ask for advice. I also wonder if anyone in the royal family had met her before the engagement, and if not, I wonder if thats why William was concerned and questioned Harry if she was the right person.
I think the Royal Family doesn't trust her. She hired a PR firm to elevate her status in England..and meet the right people. I think she planned all of this. It just doesn't make sense that a B plus actress would be set up with a prince, and everything fall into place. I don't think her own family is wrong about her..however crude, their stories weren't wrong. I feel like she's upset that they are profiting from her, and she wants to control who does that, but whether she likes it or not, everyone friend or foe will profit from her name.


agreed! something is so off. and that last documentary in south africa was so disrespectful to the charities that they supposedly visited to gain more attention from the world, but they made it all about them and their 'struggles' how dare they complain about struggle in a country that's so poor and truly struggling? it was so disrespectful and nauseating

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posted November 04, 2019 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I really don‘t understand those comments „I don‘t trust her“, „she is calculating“, etc. as if everyone of you is called upon to defend british monarchy-and harry in particular- from some viscious woman who infiltrated herself into the royal family. I mean, does it matter if any of you trust her or like her or not?

i think they are both in love with each other, you can recognize and feel the warmth and chemistry between them. I see more of a calculating mind and controlling personality in kate, for example. But like I said, we shouldn‘t judge, some women shouldn‘t be that angry of meghan and we shouldn‘t care except of their synastry maybe


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posted November 04, 2019 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kate had similar things said about her. How she and her family planned to "just happen to meet" William at school. Things like that. There will always be gossip, and it will always be nasty.

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posted November 04, 2019 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kate had similar things said about her. How she and her family planned to "just happen to meet" William at school. Things like that. There will always be gossip, and it will always be nasty.

Yes, but kate had the decency to introduce her family to the royals right...just because something is nasty doesn't mean its false, and just because its gossip doesn't be it isn't happening.

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posted November 04, 2019 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squirrel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's funny how people are more benevolent toward Kate who deliberately and calculating met prince William and who was literally groomed to become at least his girlfriend. Not so much toward Meghan though, even the initial post here states that there is something "misleading" in this marriage of Meghan and prince Harry, although they appear to be truly in love with each other. And happy together. I wonder why. I mean, mostly I know the answer, reading the comments for example in The Guardian comment section and seeing that mostly Americans (and those with a certain background) have something against Meghan whereas the British have accepted her and she seems to be well liked and admired there. Meghan and Harry, and Meghan especially have been targeted by the ruthless british tabloid press, owned by Rupert Murdoch. Mr. Murdoch is spreading a certain right-wing agenda across the world (USA, Europe, Australia). Being European myself, I can assure you that both Meghan and prince Harry are very much liked and admired in Europe and are considerd a ray of hope in those very dark times of right wing dominance and the rise of the fascism.

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posted November 04, 2019 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think she's bing targeted..I don't understand how she's a target if both she n Kate went through the same things...the only difference being Kate didn't throw anyone under the bus..

This is what bothers me about meghan..in her recent post on insta...she writes "when I was secretly asked to edit Vogue"...everyone one that has been asked to be a guest editor is secretly asked....why you would need to mention that...plus we all alreadt know..why repeat it? Why not just say, when I was asked...

I'm sorry but she loves the attention, the only issue is that she's not getting it the way she expected it...and to finally tied this back to astrology

she's a leo..not just any Leo..but a Leo with sole dispositor....SUN as sole dispositor (it will always be in Leo), signifies a person who approaches life in a purposeful manner, at worst in an egotistical and self-important manner....just saying...

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posted November 04, 2019 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like her draconic Sun conjunct Mercury conjunct NN in Aries comes out a lot in her new role.

You have her Cancerian ASC who tries to make everyone feel comfortable, accommodate others beyond her abilities, she wants to assimilate, she wants to be apart of her new family (the ROYAL family), immediately wanted to become a mom even though she had just become a bride a few months earlier

You have her Moon conjunct Saturn in Libra who loves harmony, she desires to keep a "stiff upper lip" as Londoners do

But her draconic Aries/Mercury/NN means she's destined to be a sh*t-stirrer, do controversial things, disrupt the natural order, be a rebel, be a showboat, throw people under the bus in the name of "honesty", announce her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding, etc

She is SO her draconic chart it boggles the mind because her tropical doesn't really demonstrate being such a rebel without a cause.

Her tropical Uranus doesn't make any significant aspects and she doesn't have a single planet in her 11th house.

Her Mars is in detriment in Cancer and is in the 12th house at that, only her MC is in Aries

Continuing on her tropical chart, Pluto is forming an opposition with her Cancer ASC (this will probably complete in 3+ years, but then she'll have Pluto transiting her 7th house for a decade) so it makes sense why she (and Harry) take it upon themselves to shake things up and seemingly get off on the drama of it all

2020 will probably be awful for her as much of her media stuff will backfire - just my personal prediction - as that's when Saturn slips into Aquarius and will immediately oppose her early tropical Leo NN/Mercury/Sun

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posted November 04, 2019 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally agree with you!

and this "But her draconic Aries/Mercury/NN means she's destined to be a sh*t-stirrer, do controversial things, disrupt the natural order, be a rebel, be a showboat, throw people under the bus in the name of "honesty", announce her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding, etc" . best comment ever! LOL!

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posted November 10, 2019 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saille:
I don't think she's bing targeted..I don't understand how she's a target if both she n Kate went through the same things...the only difference being Kate didn't throw anyone under the bus..

This is what bothers me about meghan..in her recent post on insta...she writes "when I was secretly asked to edit Vogue"...everyone one that has been asked to be a guest editor is secretly asked....why you would need to mention that...plus we all alreadt know..why repeat it? Why not just say, when I was asked...

I'm sorry but she loves the attention, the only issue is that she's not getting it the way she expected it...and to finally tied this back to astrology

she's a leo..not just any Leo..but a Leo with sole dispositor....SUN as sole dispositor (it will always be in Leo), signifies a person who approaches life in a purposeful manner, at worst in an egotistical and self-important manner....just saying...


she deff loves the attention. i mean who does this ???
http://www.ibtimes.com/meghan-markle-slammed-flicking-coat-expose-baby-bump-wat ch-video-2756955

and to someone who said women should not be so angry? why would you tell others how and what to say or feel? it's just like how meghan is angry that she's not liked and trying to control and manipulate through her PR company (btw, represented Weinstein) how the press and public SHOULD see and accept her? the only person who's bullying here is her! you can't control what others say about you, nor if someone keeps it real what they think of her, they're not automatically racist or a bully or jealous of her lol

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posted November 10, 2019 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
I feel like her draconic Sun conjunct Mercury conjunct NN in Aries comes out a lot in her new role.

You have her Cancerian ASC who tries to make everyone feel comfortable, accommodate others beyond her abilities, she wants to assimilate, she wants to be apart of her new family (the ROYAL family), immediately wanted to become a mom even though she had just become a bride a few months earlier

You have her Moon conjunct Saturn in Libra who loves harmony, she desires to keep a "stiff upper lip" as Londoners do

But her draconic Aries/Mercury/NN means she's destined to be a sh*t-stirrer, do controversial things, disrupt the natural order, be a rebel, be a showboat, throw people under the bus in the name of "honesty", announce her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding, etc

She is SO her draconic chart it boggles the mind because her tropical doesn't really demonstrate being such a rebel without a cause.

Her tropical Uranus doesn't make any significant aspects and she doesn't have a single planet in her 11th house.

Her Mars is in detriment in Cancer and is in the 12th house at that, only her MC is in Aries

Continuing on her tropical chart, Pluto is forming an opposition with her Cancer ASC (this will probably complete in 3+ years, but then she'll have Pluto transiting her 7th house for a decade) so it makes sense why she (and Harry) take it upon themselves to shake things up and seemingly get off on the drama of it all

2020 will probably be awful for her as much of her media stuff will backfire - just my personal prediction - as that's when Saturn slips into Aquarius and will immediately oppose her early tropical Leo NN/Mercury/Sun


wow, spot on!

She hates her role as duchess. she probably had this expectation that she can be married into royalty and be a celebrity at the same time and endulged on all the riches she's surrounded with. She seems to hate going to these charities and celebrations like Remembrance day etc. she always looked bored, she makes these snotty faces, and smirk at what's happening. there was even a video of her laughing in westminster abby in the middle of a mass or something. she's just rude and cheap

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posted November 10, 2019 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well we'll have to agree to disagree in a sense there. I agree with you that she hates her role as a Duchess in that I think that finally being "disliked" for the first time in her life is something she cannot bear, which is why she's trying desperately to control the narrative and it's backfiring on her.

She was popular/beautiful all of her life, she was the homecoming queen at her private Catholic high school, she naturally gets along well with women, she's made millions in Hollywood - all of these come very easily for her where other people struggle. It seems she's very natural with other women (going to an all girl Catholic school has probably helped with that).

I don't think she makes snotty faces or smirks inappropriately at all. She just has an expressive, beautiful face which can come off jarring when in the context of the UK. Britons are not known for being a lively, animated people in the slightest.

Plus she's now in the 1% - the oldest and snobbiest tier of society one can get. Her Los Angeles charms are seen as gaudy there. Not her fault, she's just placed in the wrong context where everything she does is seen as tacky.

I don't think she's rude or cheap, she'll just never truly assimilate.

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posted November 16, 2019 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 16, 2019 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
I feel like her draconic Sun conjunct Mercury conjunct NN in Aries comes out a lot in her new role.

You have her Cancerian ASC who tries to make everyone feel comfortable, accommodate others beyond her abilities, she wants to assimilate, she wants to be apart of her new family (the ROYAL family), immediately wanted to become a mom even though she had just become a bride a few months earlier

You have her Moon conjunct Saturn in Libra who loves harmony, she desires to keep a "stiff upper lip" as Londoners do

But her draconic Aries/Mercury/NN means she's destined to be a sh*t-stirrer, do controversial things, disrupt the natural order, be a rebel, be a showboat, throw people under the bus in the name of "honesty", announce her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding, etc

She is SO her draconic chart it boggles the mind because her tropical doesn't really demonstrate being such a rebel without a cause.

Her tropical Uranus doesn't make any significant aspects and she doesn't have a single planet in her 11th house.

Her Mars is in detriment in Cancer and is in the 12th house at that, only her MC is in Aries

Continuing on her tropical chart, Pluto is forming an opposition with her Cancer ASC (this will probably complete in 3+ years, but then she'll have Pluto transiting her 7th house for a decade) so it makes sense why she (and Harry) take it upon themselves to shake things up and seemingly get off on the drama of it all

2020 will probably be awful for her as much of her media stuff will backfire - just my personal prediction - as that's when Saturn slips into Aquarius and will immediately oppose her early tropical Leo NN/Mercury/Sun


Aries doesn't throw people under a bus, in the name of honesty. I've experienced it from people lying, though, like a Sagittarius (if she was telling the truth), who **** -stirred for attention, and to try to get rid of people she didn't want around. Leo's can be controlling and demanding.

I also find it weird when these women are accused of setting princes up to fall in love with them. Harry wanted to meet HER, and you can't force anyone to fall in love with you.

The men never seem to be accused of anything, even though we have prince Andrew as a known Epstein guy, who slept with teenage girls.

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posted November 16, 2019 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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she deff loves the attention. i mean who does this ???
http://www.ibtimes.com/meghan-markle-slammed-flicking-coat-expose-baby-bump-wat ch-video-2756955

and to someone who said women should not be so angry? why would you tell others how and what to say or feel? it's just like how meghan is angry that she's not liked and trying to control and manipulate through her PR company (btw, represented Weinstein) how the press and public SHOULD see and accept her? the only person who's bullying here is her! you can't control what others say about you, nor if someone keeps it real what they think of her, they're not automatically racist or a bully or jealous of her lol


Who said that women shouldn't be angry? And why shouldn't Meghan get angry, ever?

Before all of this, I only knew her from "Suits" and she seemed to be doing just fine by herself. She had a lifestyle blog, was happily divorced, and had been involved in charity work, long before she met Harry.

he may not be a royal, but contrast this with ewan mcgregor: cheated on his wife, left her for a younger woman, upset his entire family, and yet people still love him. I want to see his latest movie, but not because of him. If I say why, I hear excuses, nobody knows what goes on in a marriage, if he's much happier with the new woman, let him be, etc. I hardly say anything, because I hardly ever think about him, but I didn't watch his season of Fargo, because of it (and that's where I got the remarks). But everyone apparently has a need to needle Meghan Markle, and insert themselves into her marriage, just because she married royalty. I grew up in England, I was born there. I watched Diana get dragged, even though she was born for the role. We may have had decent journalists and anchor people growing up, but the gossip rags are ruthless over there, and I thought that laws were changed so that they couldn't harass as much?

Also: people could easily deprive her of the attention. People could stop being obsessed with her, and that would cut the attention in half, at least. Don't buy the magazines, don't buy the gossip newspapers, or visit the sites. You're giving them all money and ad revenue when you do. They see what sells, and print more of it. You buy into it, and then complain when she flicks a coat and shows off her bump? If she even did that, I'm not following that link. She wouldn't get away with it if nobody cared.

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posted November 16, 2019 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teasel, I think that you operate on the higher consciousness of both the signs Aries and Gemini. When people generalize about these signs, or make an observation that doesn't resonate with you, it's because they're taking about the lower vibrational qualities of this sign that you, personally, do not exhibit or relate to, but it doesn't make it any less true for the general population

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posted November 16, 2019 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Teasel, I think that you operate on the higher consciousness of both the signs Aries and Gemini. When people generalize about these signs, or make an observation that doesn't resonate with you, it's because they're taking about the lower vibrational qualities of this sign that you, personally, do not exhibit or relate to, but it doesn't make it any less true for the general population

Thank you, I appreciate that, but I grew up with a Leo who pulled my sister out of bed by her hair once, because he was looking after us (my uncle) and decided she shouldn't have gone to bed with a dress on (even though my mother told her that she could). I've seen dramatic, controlling Leo, with a bad temper. Whenever I hear that I'm rare for my sign, I feel like I should be photographed for National Geographic.
I'm not referring to your very kind comment, I was thinking about it last night. I've known more good Aries, than bad ones. I think I've known two awful ones, one loved to cause trouble for other people, when we were kids. But I've come to learn why some people don't share their charts: because every single part of mine seems to be a problem.

I doubt that Meghan will be able to do anything right, for some people. Just because she married a Prince. I cringe when people sound happy that their marriage might be in trouble. I don't like my sister's husband, but I don't want her to be unhappy. She wants to be married to him, I don't wish for them to break up.

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posted November 26, 2019 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teasel,

I'm an aries sun rising and scorpio moon//which is ruled my Mars and Pluto both in my 8th house...trust me I know anger


I'm referring to Meagan Markle. I have have no issue with her if she angry or whatever she wants to be...her energy to me is off completely..and not in a good way. Her chart shows how cunning and power hungry she is...and im sorry, but saying noone has checked in with you to see if you're ok..throws the entire royal family under the bus... did her 5 friends not check up on her..or were they yo busy collecting their checks from people magazine.

Im ok with anyone that likes her, I'd also just like to point out that its ok to be ok with me disliking her.

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posted November 26, 2019 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marciamia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Teasel,

I'm an aries sun rising and scorpio moon//which is ruled my Mars and Pluto both in my 8th house...trust me I know anger


I'm referring to Meagan Markle. I have have no issue with her if she angry or whatever she wants to be...her energy to me is off completely..and not in a good way. Her chart shows how cunning and power hungry she is...and im sorry, but saying noone has checked in with you to see if you're ok..throws the entire royal family under the bus... did her 5 friends not check up on her..or were they yo busy collecting their checks from people magazine.

Im ok with anyone that likes her, I'd also just like to point out that its ok to be ok with me disliking her.


OMG YES!!! From day 1 for me!

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posted November 26, 2019 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
right!

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posted November 27, 2019 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marciamia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saille:
right!

I cringe when I see or hear her name anymore

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posted November 27, 2019 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I cringe when I see or hear her name anymore.

… {?wow? } ...

Being "famous" carries with it a heavy weight.

She's having a lot of very-negative energies slung at her. How do you know that what you're picking-up on are her 'awareness' of the intense negative energies of 'other' people, and that these outside judgments and negative astral energies are trying to 'crust' outside her aura, and grow awful-roots towards her inner-energies? Maybe you are 'picking up on' her-own senses, her-own unconscious energies that are aware of that?

She has to 'process' all of that public "harm-intentioned" negativity.

A couple of the things we know about her is that her mother is part of a yoga conscious-community. We know that she has an interest in astrology from the recent gifts she bought for her husband and son {zodiac sign necklace}.

As "Conscious" and aware-folks, I want to invite people to think of the 'effect' of your energies on hers.

What if you were her mother?, and she was your daughter whom you loved and cared for?

What if YOU were her, and at the 'mercy' of such attacks?

Don't 'believe' things that come out of the scandal sheets. It's printed for sensationalism and making MONEY for the negatives slung at her.

Is this the "karma" that you would want planted into YOUR own future?

What you 'hold' focus-on and project in consciousness towards a Being {especially since folks here are Aware of energies}, then you could possibly REAP similar negative outcomes somewhere in your own personal life?

Even before she met Harry, she was into activities for helping Women and trying to Make a Difference in this world, in some positive and Giving way.

I want to invite you to research some of these societal world-building community activities she was a part of, before Harry and baby were ever in the picture.

And right now, she can 'use' her Celebrity with more of a laser-impact for the POSITIVE things she does.

Think your thoughts. Analyze. Share...
Please be careful of the energies you might be unintentionally 'sending' towards another person, without being aware of how that is, right now? {{ }}

We ALL make some kind of Difference.
You might not 'think' you do?, but we collectively 'affect' one another.

These are Special Energy Times right now.

What are YOU doing, for making this World a Better Place to Live?..

Love to all..

Have a good LL-Thanksgiving for those in the USA this week.

I Give Thanks for you, and your powerful Potentials in Life.

Discuss. Share. Discern.
and, Be Kind..

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posted November 27, 2019 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sending any energy towards her...I'm discussing energy I feel when I see her.

Again, I am ok with anyone that likes her..be ok with the rest of us disliking her.

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posted November 28, 2019 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marciamia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally get where you’re coming from and I’m not discounting any of that. It’s just this vibe I have always gotten from her, way before all of this royal family started. I can’t really put my finger on why though.

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Saille, good for you for sticking to your guns. I wanted to like MM (I really did). Humanitarian, a breath of fresh air and all that, a welcome change to the stuffy Royal family. I saw the engagement interview and when I first saw her I thought she seemed nice enough. The second she opened her mouth to talk I was hit with this instant revulsion. Her energy is off...bingo, that's putting it mildly. I can't like her. I just cannot. It's rare for me to say this about anyone but I just find her energy repulsive. The word 'fake' springs to mind. Marciamia, I agree with what you said too. It's very unusual for me to dislike someone so intensely at first sight and I'm still trying to figure out why.
And as for sending her bad energies, nah. I feel like she's very negative and has brought it on herself. Lately I've actually been wishing the best for her and that she will come good. I don't think it's going to happen, unfortunately. I would say she's mixed with the wrong people. I've heard a lot of stuff about her background and it's not pretty. And it's not from 'scandal sheets.' One of the things I've learned in the last year is just how much fake news is about. Mind-boggling. So many lies and PR campaigns.
The truth will come out eventually...it always does.
Maybe next year, like one of the posters above has said.
She has a Leo sun, so I'd expect she would be comfortable with the attention and being front and centre. Good for her, I just hope she can use that ability wisely.
I looked at her and Harry's charts ages ago. Assuming the birth data is correct, there were a lot of match ups, so it's no surprise they got together. I think Chiron was involved. Might have to go drag that up again.

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