posted March 13, 2021 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Kekerina:
Hiii!!

I read about the Oprah interview, what do you guys thinks? lots of emotions

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posted March 14, 2021 08:58 AM            

Soooo I have always prided myself (stupid me!) on keeping away from topics of gossip and celebrities (pride is a sin, all right) but there is something about this topic that compels me to say a few things..or rather, rant is the right word? Anywayyy...

I am not British nor related to the royal family in any way (hehe oh that would have been a fine life indeed ) but just a common person sitting on other end of the world watching this saga unfold, the latest episode on the 'explosive' Oprah interview.

My initial reaction- An EVIL RACIST OUTDATED institution that believes the world revolves around them is being brought down by a LIAR MANIPULATIVE DRAMA QUEEN couple that believes the world revolves around them'!!!

And then I started thinking deeper...

First of all, how is monarchy still a thing? I am from India where caste system is a scourge and monarchy operates on the same principle- that someone is special or more worthy of worship because they were born in a certain family. How are we still okay with this? And then ofcourse when it comes to the British Royal Family, most of us in India still remember the days these guys flogged us, looted us, and put up signs saying 'INDIANS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED' outside their theatres and stadiums and other public places. So yeah, NO LOVE LOST there.

However, coming specifically to Harry And Meghan. I rooted for them. I still do. As a couple, they both are GOALS! I never really thought about Meghan much other than 'Oh cool, seems like the monarchy is modernizing. A bi-racial divorced woman marrying an actual prince, hmm, interesting. Okay...' and that's that. The way they look at each other, have each other's backs, I mean if they are happy together that's all that should matter. Right?

But then the hits keep coming and the ultimate was the Oprah 'bombshell'. 2 hours of 2 people, rich millionaires sitting and lying through their teeth-

'I DID NOT RESEARCH THE WORLD I WAS ENTERING'-after confirmed reports from her childhood friends that she was obsessed with Diana and wanted to be Diana 2.0, read her books, watched her videos, watched the funeral, copied her dressing style etc. etc.

'I NEEDED HELP AND WENT TO THE INSTITUTION AND THEY SAID IT WON'T BE GOOD FOR THEM'-This, after her own husband has gone on record saying he got therapy to get over his mother's loss, and didn't Diana got psychiatric help while living in Buckingham Palace? And isn't HARRY BLOODY WELL A PART OF A MENTAL HEALTH CHARITY??? And all he does is sit there saying 'I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO'!!!

'OUR SECURITY WAS WITHDRAWN...OUR KID WAS NOT GIVEN TITLES OR SECURITY BECAUSE OF RACE'-Did they themselves not take up any title because they wanted Archie to have a normal life? Aren't there strict rules about who gets security and title and who doesn't-sure its a stuffy outdated institution that runs on archaic rules but that is the reason and not race, right?

'MY PASSPORT WAS TAKEN AWAY, MY KEYS WAS TAKEN AWAY, I WAS A PRISONER, I DID NOT LEAVE THE PALACE MORE THAN 2 TIMES IN A 4 MONTH PERIOD'-Ummm, I am in India and I do not recall a single 4 month period where we did not read about this royal couple travelling and frolicking somewhere on this planet. Without passport?? Didn't she have a high-class baby shower in LA with her rich and powerful friends and if she was such a prisoner I am sure her private-jet toting friends would have helped her there. Unless she insinuates that the palace had thrown professional assassins to keep tabs on her or physically restrain her???

'My WIFE WAS RACIALLY ATTACKED AND NOBODY FROM MY FAMILY SAID ANYTHING'-Umm, again, I am in India and we are not obsessed with your family but we do get important news from time to time. The 'attacks' on your wife were done by the layer of vermin who work in tabloids and they did the same to Kate. I remember before the Kate-William wedding, even our newspapers were splashed with rumors, gossip, salacious details of Kate's life and words like 's**t , floozy, second hand, katy waity' were routinely used for her. We got to know about her dating past, there were discussions on chat boards around the world and comments in youtube videos if William is going to marry a 'used tissue paper', how 'flat chested' she was. All this and more. NOBODY spoke up or defended her then either and this was not racially motivated was it? Your mother was hounded and that was not racial either was it? What's wrong is wrong for everyone and not just for someone playing the race card, right?

ON AND ON AND ON it went. 2 Hours of playing the VICTIM CARD, RACE CARD, POOR ME POOR ME CARD. And her husband (the one with nazi swastika past, yeah the same) agreed and lied with her in full force (I DID NOT GET TO TRAVEL ON THE BACK OF A BICYCLE IN MY CHILDHOOD AND I DO THAT WITH ARCHIE- all the while there are plenty of pics of his childhood showing him doing exactly that with his father and brother)

And Oprah raked in the moolah.

I was a scholarship student and went to a college which I could not have otherwise afforded, and had some classmates coming from extremely rich families. One of them has a sister who works in an NGO that Meghan works with too. She was even invited to the royal wedding and has met and worked with Meghan quite a number of times over the past 5 years. After the Oprah airing, I was talking to my friend and he simply said, 'Do NOT believe a word of that. My sister told me this woman is a chameleon. One thing for the cameras and another behind. Not a thing in front of the cameras is true. Not a thing.'

Anyway, so the victim card has been played, and the 'woke' left is out in full force. 'YASS, MEGHAN IS OUR QUEEN, THE REAL QUEEN OF ENGLAND'.

So this is what is bothering me-

1- When did we become a civilization of morons, is it so easy for anyone to play the victim card, use excuses of race or misogyny or patriarchy or blah blah and get sympathies all around? More specifically, I am shocked at how the 'woke liberals' of today treat anyone who dares to question their stance with utter contempt, disregard and outright abuse. 'SHE SAID SHE WAS RACIALLY ATTACKED, SHAME ON YOU FOR QUESTIONING THAT. SHE SAID SHE WAS SUICIDAL, SHAME ON YOU FOR SAYING THAT SHE IS SAYING THIS JUST FOR SYMPATHY. SHE SAID HER TRUTH AND WE KNOW IT IS THE TRUTH, YOU SHOULD DIE YOU RACIST MISOGYNIST TWAT.'

2- And of course what aspect in astrology shows the utter narcissism as is evident in this case? The 'I am going to rule the world, it revolves around me and if I cannot do that, I will cry like a petulant child and find my millions of supporters and they will worship me, one way or another'. Because it feels like fun and I wanna check if I have that in my chart too

I don't know why I ranted on and on. I guess my default emotion in life is disappointment. And I feel so out of place in this world. I don't understand why people treat each other the way we do. I sense a lot of anger and hatred around me and I wish I could take it all away....but then we would live in heaven, and where is the fun in that hah

And I know we are all here to learn lessons and everything is essential, but it still sucks. It sucks to be a part of the world where so much injustice is happening at every level and I feel so helpless and also I feel like I cannot live here because I cannot trust anyone or I am not capable of being manipulative the way the most successful people are...

posted March 14, 2021 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Saille:
This was what they wanted all along...by saying racism and depression things people are sensitive about and have every right to be...they've left the door open for if the Queen( we know how amazing & forgiving Grandparents are) ask them to return, they can-by simply saying those problems are fixed. Had they said it anything else...aka the truth that MM thought this Royal life was going to be about status, fame, and fortune, aka Hollywood...there's no way they could return. I guarantee they will come back into Royal life, and I also think they are not going to make it. You cannot live life based on people just constantly standing for you, signing NDA and thinking it's US vs the whole world.

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1:

DID NOT RESEARCH THE WORLD I WAS ENTERING'-after confirmed reports from her childhood friends that she was obsessed with Diana and wanted to be Diana 2.0, read her books, watched her videos, watched the funeral, copied her dressing style etc. etc.

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posted March 14, 2021 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1:

DID NOT RESEARCH THE WORLD I WAS ENTERING'-after confirmed reports from her childhood friends that she was obsessed with Diana and wanted to be Diana 2.0, read her books, watched her videos, watched the funeral, copied her dressing style etc. etc.

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Also, there’s Harry’s fault for not preparing her. It’s strange how he plays a passive role in it as he has no say in the family (the royal and the new one). In the interview, he said as MM released him from the royal life.
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I really did not care about this person. All I knew was she was an actress on suits, a show I semi-liked and she played her character fine. I have always tried to look at everything from every possible perspective..and when this thing started all I thought was, '2 people love each other and in the process they are also bringing a fresh modern touch to an outdated institution, good'. It is the constant red flags thereafter..

She has GHOSTED her entire family pre-harry. ENTIRE FAMILY. Except her mom. No father, No half-siblings, no nieces,nephews,cousins, NOBODY. Who does this???

Where are her CHILDHOOD FRIENDS? The things about Diana that she was obsessed with Diana, read her story, was confirmed by a childhood friend. There is a picture of her posing in front of Buckingham Palace with a friend when she was 15. Her friend of 30 years confirmed that she 'wanted to be the next version of people's princess'. Consequence? GHOSTED. Friend of 30 FREAKING YEARS. GONE.

She got ahead in Hollywood thanks to her previous marriage with a hollywood executive with connections. Once she got Suits, BYE BYE. GONE. Sent her marriage ring in MAIL.

The ONLY FRIENDS she has now? All the rich, influential, famous people in media and entertainment industries. Oprah, Clooney, Beyonce, actors, media moghuls, beauty queens, producers, the ones gracing the magazine covers, the who's who of global top 1% population.

And this is all okay. After all, there is nothing wrong with being ambitious. There is nothing wrong with being a social climber. And it is not easy either. For seducing the who's who of the global rich and influential list, one has to be charming, good conversationalist, intelligent, well-read, well-versed in global issues, witty...clearly she is all of these things. So even for people who call her a gold digger, an ambitious social climber, I say, so what? That's the skill she has and she employs it. Good for her.

It is the constant manipulation and 'POOR ME, SWEET ANGEL ME, LOVE ME, HUG ME, WORSHIP ME' attitude that bugs me. It is the incessant lying. And playing the victim card. The references to RACE and GENDER that have broken the internet and now there is a rabid 'woke' group out there hailing her as the next messiah.

And Harry is not blemish-less in this. I feel weird when people talk about grown men and their decisions as if they were infants. He has had a troubled past, we have seen that. He has said on occasion that he does not like London. He probably felt stuffy and suffocated in the royal system too. He has a lot of anger inside him and this is how he is expressing it. When his wife tells him 'I am being ATTACKED DUE TO MY RACE', he believes it because he needs to vent against the system that took his mother away from him. He doesn't question why his wife cannot get mental health help when he himself got it, his mother got it. His wife weeps in front of him saying that his brother and father bully her and he probably believes that too. In his mind, they are trapped in a system that probably turns normal people into monsters so why won't they treat his wife like that? He went on the show and agreed about everything, even when half the things she said there are certifiable lies. This is complicity.

I believe that Harry and Meghan are true soulmates. They trigger each other's pain/ego points and are on a ride or die trip together. The only thing is Harry is probably the more hurt one and Meghan is the more megalomaniac one. But at the end of the day, whatever they are doing is on both of them.

When two self-entitled whiny rich middle-aged snakes go on the world's most popular chat show and indulge in a smear campaign, and they know that using the key words like 'suffocated, racist attacks, silenced, mental health, suicide' will improve their power-position in this new 'woke' culture, it SUCKS. It sucks to see people in important position abuse their power like this. They could have done anything and they choose to be this. Pathetic, whiny, liars.

And what is the message they are giving to their worshippers?

When in doubt, use the victim card.

When a person of color does not get what they want, just use the race card.

When a woman fails to achieve her life goal, she can feel free to use words like 'suicidal' and 'suffocated' to blame someone else.

A middle-aged couple with atleast 15 million pounds of inheritance/moolah in bank, is allowed to whine about their financial future because the British public refuses to finance their extravagant lifestyle after they have given up their working royal position...

And so on and so forth. Where does this self-entitlement end? And is this the society I have to live in? So-called wokes worshipping these morons? And dare I ask about proof from St Meghan about any of her charges. I will be branded racist, misogynist, royal turd, patriarchal stooge...

If even once, this couple had shown concern for anyone else, I could have considered them as genuine. Especially Meghan. Harry is carrying around a wound that will never heal, so I can give him an out here. He does not come across as Evil. But Meghan? The self-avowed 'women's rights activist'? Even once, in any of her interviews, in any of her tv appearances, anywhere, has she even once said anything about anyone other than herself? Shown even a modicum of empathy or compassion? If she called out the tabloids on how they have treated Kate in a repulsive manner before and right after her marriage to William, I would consider her a genuine activist. But noooooo, Meghan has to sing the ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME song 24/7.

The funniest thing is, this couple talks about wanting to live a private life, raise their kid as a normal person and then go buy a 10 million dollar mansion in one of the poshest/paparazzi prone areas in USA, go on the most popular chat show in the world, and whine about how they were not given special treatment/ security/ titles by the royal family?! I can't even...

Did you see the Charlie Hebdo cartoon depicting The Queen suffocating St. Meghan? How repulsive is that! I have no love for the monarchy. It will take a lot for me to forgive an institution that enslaved my country and treated us like animals. but EVEN I FOUND THAT CARTOON OFFENSIVE. But they drew it just because Meghan said that happened. She felt 'suffocated'. And that interview was designed and aired to portray everybody in British Royal Family as racist, cold, mean, bullies while cementing Meghan's position as a sweet, selfless, charismatic, poor, angelic, long-suffering, graceful, victim, the 'true owner of the crown', the 'queen the world needs'.

posted March 14, 2021 07:06 PM            

Also, there’s Harry’s fault for not preparing her. It’s strange how he plays a passive role in it as he has no say in the family (the royal and the new one). In the interview, he said as MM released him from the royal life.

This is so true! They were stuck in this us.vs world thing and honestly feel like they both used each other...I did believe they did love each other at first..but not it's more of a competition...to be a team more than anything else.
No matter what, he will always be welcome back to his family and England..she's done.

posted March 14, 2021 07:15 PM            

I'm not surprised by Charlie Hebdo cartoon...I understand it bc deep down what MM is saying that the Queen allowed it to happen.

posted March 15, 2021 01:03 AM            

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Originally posted by lovelyricha1:

A middle-aged couple with atleast 15 million pounds of inheritance/moolah in bank, is allowed to whine about their financial future because the British public refuses to finance their extravagant lifestyle after they have given up their working royal position...

And so on and so forth. Where does this self-entitlement end? And is this the society I have to live in? So-called wokes worshipping these morons? And dare I ask about proof from St Meghan about any of her charges. I will be branded racist, misogynist, royal turd, patriarchal stooge...

If even once, this couple had shown concern for anyone else, I could have considered them as genuine. Especially Meghan. Harry is carrying around a wound that will never heal, so I can give him an out here. He does not come across as Evil. But Meghan? The self-avowed 'women's rights activist'? Even once, in any of her interviews, in any of her tv appearances, anywhere, has she even once said anything about anyone other than herself? Shown even a modicum of empathy or compassion? If she called out the tabloids on how they have treated Kate in a repulsive manner before and right after her marriage to William, I would consider her a genuine activist. But noooooo, Meghan has to sing the ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME song 24/7.

The funniest thing is, this couple talks about wanting to live a private life, raise their kid as a normal person and then go buy a 10 million dollar mansion in one of the poshest/paparazzi prone areas in USA, go on the most popular chat show in the world, and whine about how they were not given special treatment/ security/ titles by the royal family?! I can't even...

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Yes, something doesn’t seem right when people who originally claimed to want just quiet life in Canada end up in Hollywood with multimillion deals, but they are still the victims.
A lot of what you say sounds correct. Also, it seems like she ghosted that British host Piers Morgan. T-square Mars-Saturn- MC has something to do with it + Pluto sq. AC.
Harry definitely doesn’t question MM. I think he cannot choose a dinner menu without his wife agreement.
Many people don’t buy her stories. There’re many different comments. I wonder what majority of British think about that Interview.

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Originally posted by Saille:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lovelyricha1:
I'm a person of color and cannot stand the way the black community is on her just supporting her thinking this is all about race.
I do believe she encountered the racism...but it was likely the first time for her. Being a light skin women in American-she could pass for being white and not have dealt with the degree of racism she dealt with in England bc there is class involved.
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That’s what I thought. If it isn’t a well-known fact, I wouldn’t think she is black. I’m sure she very stands out for royals for many reasons and might be discriminated. However, they knew about her heritage when they accepted her officially. The monarchy is a very discriminating system by default. Kate Middleton got shame also because she wasn’t noble enough. MM needed everything right away. Well, they could just make Harry to give up the title before for marrying outside of the traditional circle. This marriage was a big step against the traditions already. But Pluto wants more and more sacrifices.

posted March 15, 2021 06:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Saille:
Also want to say how much I've really enjoyed reading these and not feeling like I'm the only one feeling this way.

I consider my self a liberal, but I also like to do my own research rather than just following what the left says all the time.

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Hey same here. I am a social liberal and progressive too but I like using my own brain rather than blindly following the herd mentality without questioning...and it is a huge relief to find others who also find this whole saga infuriating...

A lot of people say things like 'oh you are just jealous, oh you just hate her, oh this is just gossip' not realizing the more important issues at play here.

We are not discussing Kardashians or the color of someone's gown on oscars night. We are talking about a highly influential international celebrity who has gone guns blazing on a campaign designed solely to force people to treat her as Diana reincarnate. She is asking people to love her, trust her, watch her show, buy her books, give her their valuable time and money and sympathy. And she is doing this with the help of lies and manipulation. Constantly. But she can't take the criticism? She can't be called out for the abuse of immense power that she has right now, all so she could fulfill her childhood dream of being the next 'princess of people's hearts'?

What bugs me the most is when I see really important, famous people use their power, position, money for nefarious purposes. By using race card, by portraying herself as a perpetual victim because of her gender and her race, St. Meghan has actually set back the fight for equality in terms of race as well as gender by a lot of steps. THIS is what people don't understand. I am a woman and a person of color too. I hate it when anybody uses the race card, patriarchy card or basically any sort of victim card willy-nilly. It makes things difficult for real people out there dealing with real issues.

Monsters like Harvey Weinstein were shielded, loved, cherished, encouraged, and embraced by the likes of Oprah, Clooney, Meryl Streep, Beyonce, the entire liberal-progressive-rich-influential Hollywood elites for decades. DECADES. Now the same coterie exists around St. Meghan.

I am not comparing her to a pervert and a rapist. I am saying, when elites who use their power and position for nefarious and dubious or narcissistic purposes, the end result is often disastrous for the world at large. And I LOATHE this.

Blame it on my Saturnian disposition. I hate chaos and injustice. I cannot stand lying, manipulation, unfairness. Especially by people who are able to make this world a better place but choose to turn it into a darker hell hole for everyone. Disgusting.

posted March 15, 2021 06:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Harry definitely doesn’t question MM. I think he cannot choose a dinner menu without his wife agreement.

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This made me spill my tea

posted March 15, 2021 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Saille:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Librapurr:
The thing is she didn't take the time understand how their system worked. It was basically a job she didn't apply for, and essentially working for a company...rather than what she thought...they were going to be working for her.

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