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Topic: Saturn Return Just Ended. Can someone give me a reading for the coming year?
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todd
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posted February 27, 2021 07:33 PM
  
Hi snake lady
The first thing that strikes me is that you are very soft yet very hard.
Your node(dragonhead ) is on the ascendant
along with psyche,their midpoint is conjunct the ascendant.first this gives a very intuitive,creative and loving personality.the node gives psychic abilities and also a very clear mind and intellect.it is a placement of great intelligence.coupled with the psychic potential,you have a knack of going directly to the center of questions or problems .you also know many things intuitively that your didn't study or research
Psyche is quite idealistic and pure in emotions.it gives you a child-like emotional stance.
Yet with with the Mars/Venus/Orcus stellium square to Pluto,who have a strong and what can be selfish and cold streak.it is interesting thacaura is opposed these planetscand square to Pluto.this can be double edged ,on one hand you can sense forces that want to harm you,but on the other sine forces can sense you dicate nature and be drawn to give you pain.your sexual appetite can be much greater than is usually associated with the feminine, you have almost masculine desires.
Sedna is opposed to Pluto and square the stellium and square to aura .this complicates you ability to move stealthily as you are a truth speaker and don't naturally conceal knowledge. With aura involved you have no choice but to speak the truth and let the pieces fall where they will.
I will post this interpretation in segments
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todd
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posted February 27, 2021 07:51 PM
This Grand Cross is somewhat problematic because you can't really avoid confrontations.. and confrontations you will have because your soul must speak the truth.here darkness is bear because you see the truth behind the selfish desires a and shadows of even death.
You are very fortunate to have the dragons head on your ascendant,as malicious forces can not sneak up on you .but you must not forget that there are spirits who want to attack you because you bring light to the darkest motives .never second you intuitions in matters of your own is security.you are a brave soul to incarnate in this dark epoch .Orcus and Pluto with light BRI g healing powers.with aura involved it is very you can channel healing through your hands as well as your mental images.
It is very likely you were a healer in a past life as Juno is conjunct to the verges and Pluto is trine the sun with their midpoint conjunct vertex/juno.
Vertex/Juno implies a strong family heritage a aunt or grandmother could have been very significant in your life .the vertex et all.suggests you have had otherworldly experiences or feeling throughout by our life.but very often these"paranormal sensations" were confusing of so phantasmagoric that you have been left with questions if what is real and what iscillusion.
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todd
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posted February 27, 2021 08:12 PM
Your Jupiter/mercury conjunction is trine the node which amp ups your intelligence.this gives you understanding ifvboth whatvis near and what is far.you have the ability to united both personal views with larger social views.this is the sign of a scholar .though you could also be a very successful psychological counselor.
You sun/Chiron conjunction is opposed to your Saturn/Neptune conjunction which really throws the cards in the air. You are inscrutable... you only allow people to know what you want them to know about you.on one hand the sun/Chiron conjunction can be abrupt and spontaneous but every emotion nuance you show others is calculated.by that I mean you don't really show you inner self even when you seem to be spinateous.you are very private and are very complicated.you can see opposite viewpoints and every point between.
People often project their ideas about you on you, and so if you wished ,you could be very deceptive because no one would know what you inner views are.
This complexity brings great creativity. With your moon square to Lilith your creative urge is partvofcyou underlying emotional connection to your world.. very sensitive.with Venus drawn into this aspect you truly are loving at your core,though your harsh Pluto/orcus aspects must make you shield your sensitivity from most people.IP: Logged |
todd
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posted February 27, 2021 08:45 PM
The sun conjunct to Chiron is also a aspect that expands,your mind in both metaphysical and stanfard model modes.Chiron usually bring a degree of emotional distress but this is over emphasized in respect to the mental clarity it adds.
Chiron adds a very analytical,critical ,and incisive intelligence.Chiron looks and expects coherence in words and actions and it is quick to point out hypocrisy or faults.
This can be Chiron's undoing because Chiron sponateuosly has not tact.truth and clarity is more important than peoples feeling or self delusions,so it is likely you have lost fyiends or alienated people by your caustic revelations.but it is an aspect of a engineer par excellence.Uranus adds to these mathematical and theoretical abities.here Uranus is loosely opposed which might reflect the "struggle" to complete your academic goals.as you mentioned outside influences,not lack of acumen has lengthened your path.Your merchryy/moon midpoint I'd conjunct the sun/Chiron so I may have spoken out of turn as this gives a sensitivity to your word,so you might have learn earlyin ice to speak only as much as others can handle.
But this midpoint gives a amazing precise loquaciousness.that is you can explain the most comicated subjects so that even lay persons can follow you.you seem to have much better social skills than most engineering nerds(spoken with humor).
You have so many aspects of intelligence I would have to consider you a genius. As too relationship,I wlli look at that tomorrow as your chart shows you likely have childhood issues that would be germane to current potential relationships IP: Logged |
Snake Lady
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posted February 27, 2021 11:45 PM
Wow... I'm blown away, Todd. I know you said you're not done yet, but thank you so much so far! I feel like I've just been seen on a level that hasn't happened before and is actually a bit uncomfortable feeling that exposed. That's not a request to stop reading, by the way. I'm just very impressed. There is a thread I started that might give some partial insight into the relationships thing: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/005199.html There are still a lot of questions about the situation described in the thread that have yet to be answered, but any insight is appreciated. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted February 28, 2021 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Snake Lady:
I posted them again, though I don't have an image-hosting site right now and don't have a lot of time to make an account with one yet. I believe you could save the images from here if you wanted to...
I have them on my own computer, and could have posted them here from the outset (using my own image hosting account). However, you not having the time to do this yourself is a clear indication that you will not have the time to provide me with the feedback needed to explore your charts meaningfully. ... So, now is not the time for me to attempt to do so (or for you to have them explored).
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Snake Lady
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posted February 28, 2021 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by Graham:
I have them on my own computer, and could have posted them here from the outset (using my own image hosting account).However, you not having the time to do this yourself is a clear indication that you will not have the time to provide me with the feedback needed to explore your charts meaningfully. ... So, now is not the time for me to attempt to do so (or for you to have them explored).
Ok, I accept that's how you feel.
It would probably be helpful next time to state your expectations beforehand so I can make the necessary evaluations and preparations ahead of time. I am busy, but if I know what to expect ahead of time, I can make time (which is how that works anyway). I absolutely had been looking up image hosting sites and found out that I already had an account with one, but after trying for way too long, could not figure out how to get an image link. I've since found another option that I am planning to try next. So I had not given up on that. I wasn't sure how soon I could figure it out, since this is new to me, which is why I simplified my response by saying that I'm busy. Thank you for the reading attempt and perhaps we will circle back around sometime when I have figured out this image thing. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted February 28, 2021 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Snake Lady:
Ok, I accept that's how you feel.
It would probably be helpful next time to state your expectations beforehand so I can make the necessary evaluations and preparations ahead of time. I am busy, but if I know what to expect ahead of time, I can make time (which is how that works anyway). I absolutely had been looking up image hosting sites and found out that I already had an account with one, but after trying for way too long, could not figure out how to get an image link. I've since found another option that I am planning to try next. So I had not given up on that. I wasn't sure how soon I could figure it out, since this is new to me, which is why I simplified my response by saying that I'm busy. Thank you for the reading attempt and perhaps we will circle back around sometime when I have figured out this image thing.
Yes. ... I shall return when you have the time to participate in a warm reading of your chart(s) rather than a cold one. IP: Logged |
todd
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posted February 28, 2021 05:05 PM
Hi snake lady
I've read over your previous thread.my personal take on soul mates is that in my life,soul mates have been transient.that is a soulmate came to me to be with me through a transition not to complete my present "karmic" role.so I am not a good source to take insights about a true twin/soul connection.Your chart though rings very true to what you have shared.
First I think ,yes ,you are destined to be with your soul mate.
Mainly because your moon/Venus midpoint is square lith and the Juno/Jupiter midpoint and jupiter/vertex midpoint are also conjunct to lilith .
I conceptualized true lilith as the source of all vital and emotion energies of this incarnation.therefore you have an innate/primal need for love and completion. This is so deeply "you" that all else pales.
With the vertex added to Lilith energy,a karmic connection is pictured.
You definitely have issues with the yang energies. It seems to me that though you embody feminine affection,early experiences have emphasized the carnal instinctual selfish side of relationship/sexuality.
What is so confusing is that Venus is part of the mars/Orcus square mars pattern,yet Venus through its midpoint with the moon is also part of your inner emotional love.this is why at the outset I said your are hard and soft,demanding yet compliant. Your chart tends to show males have been problematic,beginning with your father.neptune with Saturn can show a absent father,a self I diligent father but one who doesn't provide the guidance that one expects.the our Pluto/Orcus/mars speaks for itself of intense but in the end of selfish rendezvous.
At this point I had to reflect on your Juno/vertex conjunction and the adjoining sextiles to Pluto and the sun.notice how exact the aspects are.this is a India action that relationships are truly an important part of this incarnation.... Destiny leads you to a soul mate . I have read that all souls were initially feminine and that male and female are later distinctions.I bring this up because
your Juno/vertex pattern seems to be the strongest indicator of a soulmate union...I noticed that the moon/Sappho midpoint is also conjunct the vertex and Juno..my supposition is that your soul mate may be a woman. Though I don't know about the dream that focused you on a soulmate. IP: Logged |
Snake Lady
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posted February 28, 2021 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Graham:
Yes. ... I shall return when you have the time to participate in a warm reading of your chart(s) rather than a cold one.
Graham, I am taking this a little harshly, though maybe you didn't mean it to be harsh. I really didn't mean to step on any toes.
I have just been through a city-wide weather disaster that lasted for a whole week and I'm still recovering from that and another huge event in my personal life that happened in the same week. Please forgive me if my tone has sounded rushed or cold to you. I was actually really glad that you showed me the code to paste images directly onto my posts (which will come in handy in the future) and was rushing to get it done and let you know it was done because I wanted you to quickly have everything you needed to do the reading and I thought it would be good enough for the moment if you were able to save the images. I thought by the time you posted the reading I would have time to respond properly to them, which I still believe I will. I am really struggling at the moment and needing compassion for my situation right now, so if you could please give me the benefit of the doubt on this I would really appreciate it so much. I am ok with you waiting to do a reading, of course. I'm not trying to rush that, but only to hope you understand where I'm coming from. I finally got an imgur account today and have pasted the chart images where the last ones were (that kept expiring). Happy to offer whatever else is needed... and ready whenever you are...  IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted March 01, 2021 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by Snake Lady:
Graham, I am taking this a little harshly, though maybe you didn't mean it to be harsh. I really didn't mean to step on any toes.
I have just been through a city-wide weather disaster that lasted for a whole week and I'm still recovering from that and another huge event in my personal life that happened in the same week. Please forgive me if my tone has sounded rushed or cold to you. I was actually really glad that you showed me the code to paste images directly onto my posts (which will come in handy in the future) and was rushing to get it done and let you know it was done because I wanted you to quickly have everything you needed to do the reading and I thought it would be good enough for the moment if you were able to save the images. I thought by the time you posted the reading I would have time to respond properly to them, which I still believe I will. I am really struggling at the moment and needing compassion for my situation right now, so if you could please give me the benefit of the doubt on this I would really appreciate it so much. I am ok with you waiting to do a reading, of course. I'm not trying to rush that, but only to hope you understand where I'm coming from. I finally got an imgur account today and have pasted the chart images where the last ones were (that kept expiring). Happy to offer whatever else is needed... and ready whenever you are...
There is no reason why you should see this as me being offended or/and being critical of you in any way, SL. (Perhaps it was the word "cold" in cold-reading - but the latter is just astrological jargon for interpretations/readings done without any knowledge of the life events/experiences encountered by the chart owner.) I am ok/happy with doing a warm reading when you have the time to do so, and fully understand "where you are coming from" in stating that you are/have been busy. ... All I am saying is that "in my opinion/experience, cold readings do not help the chart owner to USE their charts" - and, for me, the role of the astrologer is to help the chart owner to use his/her chart effectively.
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todd
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posted March 01, 2021 01:11 PM
Hi snake lady
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Snake Lady
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posted March 01, 2021 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by todd:
Hi snake lady
Are you on line?
10:15 am pst
I am online now ... 10:35pmPST. I'll be available for about another hour, then not for another 4 to 5 hours, though I may be able to check during that time to read only. IP: Logged |
todd
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posted March 01, 2021 06:20 PM
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Snake Lady
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posted March 01, 2021 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Graham:
There is no reason why you should see this as me being offended or/and being critical of you in anyway, SL. (Perhaps it was the word "cold" in cold-reading - but the latter is just astrological jargon for interpretations/readings done without any knowledge of the life events/experiences encountered by the chart owner.)I am ok/happy with doing a warm reading when you have the time to do so, and fully understand "where you are coming from" in stating that you are/have been busy. ... All I am saying is that "in my opinion/experience, cold readings do not help the chart owner to [b]USE their charts" - and, for me, the role of the astrologer is to help the chart owner to use his/her chart effectively. [/B]
Yes, you are right. I didn't know that the terms "cold" and "warm" in reference to readings were part of astrological jargon.
Thanks for explaining that!
And I'm certainly interested in using my chart, so I appreciate your approach. I am prepared to discuss your interpretations in depth. IP: Logged |
todd
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posted March 01, 2021 07:27 PM
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Snake Lady
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posted March 01, 2021 07:59 PM
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Graham
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posted March 02, 2021 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by Snake Lady:
Yes, you are right. I didn't know that the terms "cold" and "warm" in reference to readings were part of astrological jargon.
Thanks for explaining that!
And I'm certainly interested in using my chart, so I appreciate your approach. I am prepared to discuss your interpretations in depth.
Ok. ... Let's wait until todd has completed his exploration of your charts, and then see if the Jupiter + Saturn Returns have anything to add to that. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted March 05, 2021 03:31 AM
Bump. Has todd now completed his exploration of your charts, SL? IP: Logged |
Snake Lady
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posted March 05, 2021 05:50 PM
Hi Graham,
Yes, you can start on yours if you’d like.
We were working on another format for privacy’s sake on some things but I’ll give the necessary feedback on your interpretations. IP: Logged |
Snake Lady
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posted March 06, 2021 12:20 AM
Hi Graham,
Yes, you can start on yours if you’d like.
We were working on another format for privacy’s sake on some things but I’ll give the necessary feedback on your interpretations. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted March 06, 2021 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by Snake Lady:
Hi Graham,
Yes, you can start on yours if you’d like.
We were working on another format for privacy’s sake on some things but I’ll give the necessary feedback on your interpretations.
This thread is already two pages long and contains some 45 replies. ... So, for clarity, I shall use your opening post to start a new thread (on this board) "from the beginning" - and link to this one if/when it appropriate to do so. IP: Logged |
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