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Springtimeflower
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posted October 22, 2023 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie!

This year sure has flown by. Hope my message finds you doing well.

The upcoming lunar eclipse and full moon should be interesting. Hope it brings you lots of good things.

My mom is hanging in there. I hope your Gran is doing well, too.

I will be away for a while and should be back sometime next month.

Take good care,
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posted October 25, 2023 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Springtimeflower, I hope you're well. You've been in my thoughts. Sending a *hug*. I've been unable to get my email a few days. My cell isn't set up with it. I'm on it to use LL but didn't want you to think I was dropping the communication.

My healing, peace and tranquil thoughts to you and yours, including D. 💐

@Emsie, I'm sorry I crashed on your thread

I saw springtimeflower and it was my non thoughts. I apologize. Sending you ♥️ too. Hope you're doing well.

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posted October 26, 2023 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Moon, for thinking about me. It's been a busy time.. trying to focus on fewer things to do. Yesterday I had too much ice cream, low sugar, but shouldn't have eaten it (think it's the turmoil I've been picking up from 4OC's as I have been dropping things..think something did happen for the 4OC'S..and they may be using that to get them the therapy they need, which makes sense with me picking up her saying--a therapist?..then all these weird, wound up energies)..needing to help my mom has become more involved with keeping her from laying in one spot..we are supposed to get a waffle top foam topper for her bed..should have had it already according to the nurse..she seems to be staying in between stages of decline now..will be taking a break today..it's been raining off and on...my fur kid is having a hard time with the mostly unfriendly neighborhood..

Sending you hugs, healing and positive light!!!
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posted October 26, 2023 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Springtimeflower for your positivity.

Sending

No need to respond. I know you need *you* time and the things beforehand are energy zapping. I'm sending good healthy frequency your way!

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posted November 10, 2023 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring and MoonMystic,

I'm going through very crazy times, I'm spending my last few weeks at my current workplace, but they are making it hard for me. The whole situation got to a point where we are experiencing major issues with staffing and we have to do overtime. At least, it gets paid decently, but I cannot wait to leave for good. Even more disgusting things happened to other colleagues as well, skeletons are falling out of the cupboard on a weekly basis, people in general are about to lose mind... I will check back shortly, I just need some downtime to ride the tsunami I just wanted to let both of you know that I'm alive, hopefully soon things will get better as soon as I get rid of this... well... hell...

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posted December 08, 2023 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 08, 2023 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sending you lots of hugs Emsie.

I've been busy with my mom and pupper. Each week there is a new challenge with my mom. At the moment she is sleeping peacefully. The CNA is due to stop by soon.

Hopefully the rest of the month goes by quickly for you.

Take care,
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posted December 21, 2023 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

Sorry for the late reply again, these last few months were very time and energy consuming, and at the moment the Mars-Neptune square doesn't help either. I feel like I'm floating through my days trying to regenerate. I really hope you are fine

Last week I had my yearly session with my local astrologer and she told me good things happening for 2024, especially regarding work. I will keep an eye on the Jup-Uranus conjunction around 20 April as it will exactly oppose my natal Pluto. Pluto rules my work and finances as well, so I'm hoping for a great opportunity finding it's way to me.

Right now I don't have a job and I'm planning to extend my resting period by a few more months. Thank God I left the previous one as my ex-colleagues shared even worse things with me since I've left the company. The remaining people are burning out and losing motivation bigtime, and there were already a few more resignations. I think this was one of the best decisions on my part to respect and honor myself to walk away from a situation like this...

April and May should be interesting, and I was also told that my Life purpose and my career will go under gradual transformation and a complete change until 2027 as well as my family life as Pluto is coming back again. The interesting part is that I already feel the wind of change. I'm considering opening a small business and before that going back to school to learn pottery. This is my inner child craving to express itself in a creative manner as I always wanted to do something creative for a living when I was young, but I wasn't allowed to. The intellectual work is only for fulfilling basic needs now, but I don't really enjoy it, nor have any ambitions anymore to build a career out of that. Especially, when the work environment is toxic as hell...

I already feel my life is shifting in a completely different direction, but I'm still inbetween things, currently at the planning stage. I was also told that this Saturn in Pisces transit would be a great energy to have a solid plan about finding a proper pottery course (schedule, cost, duration, e.g.) and complete it to have a certificate. As far as I know in my country I'd need a certificate to legally create a pottery/ceramics business and sell products. But I would also like to learn the processes.

But first, I'd like to find a proper job where I don't burn out and I could adjust my schedule to. Exciting times ahead, I'm so curious where this will lead me eventually. All I know is that I'm fed up with the corporate let's exploit all employees kind of BS. This is clearly not for me and my lifestyle.

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posted December 23, 2023 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

Good to hear you survived your old workplace and are taking more time to decompress, reflect, and heal from that experience. The mars/Neptune transit can make you feel debilitated, ineffectual and as though you have failed in some way.. don't let it get you down. Also, be careful with your past co-workers as well. Sending you lots of hugs and well wishes.

My mom has been going through some health challenges each week, but is doing okay at the moment. I have been busy, but have still tried to have some "me" time by baking, etc. I'm behind in responding here and on email to others.

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posted December 23, 2023 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted to add more to my last message. You are right in wanting to follow your dreams. I'll try to take another look at your chart soon.

How are your Gran and other family members doing?

It's a good time for self-care for all of us.

Take care,
Spring

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posted December 24, 2023 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

I'm going to try and look at your chart today or tomorrow. You have some important transits coming up. It's been slow and going. I finally responded to a message I had from last month. I also offered to look at another chart, too, and before that I took on too much. It will be interesting to see what happens when transiting Pluto goes into Aquarius on Jan 21st.

Thank you,

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posted December 28, 2023 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie!

Sorry to have taken forever to look at your chart.

The transit of Saturn that will help you next year is also making you feel a push pull kind of frustration, pessimistic and not as positive as you usually are, and weighted down, but its square to your natal Mars, Mercury and Sun, with also help you to make sure you do a thorough, detailed and discipled approach to reaching your goals. The Saturn transits opposition to your natal jupiter will also help you to see what's necessary to expanding versus contracting in growing your creative business. Now you will be pursuing your career and passion (Leo Sun on 10th house cusp) versus just working somewhere (6th house--Aries on cusp, position of authority) and earning money. Transiting Saturn will be passing your natal mars and mercury by late March, which should take some of the heaviness of that transit off of you, but with it still more fully squaring your natal Sun, you'll have plenty to do.

Late January, early February 2024 should be a somewhat pleasant time for you as long as you don't over do it. It could just be a time when you are feeling lazy or just socializing. With Jupiter transiting your 7th house, there might be a potential partner popping into your life. At the same time transiting pluto will be more fully squaring your natal venus as well and potentially it could bring you a relationship that would transform you as a person or at the least you'll know what love means to you by the time it ends.

When transiting Uranus goes direct on Jan 27, you should see more changes within your family. At this time, too, all the planets will then be moving forward as well as the north node on Jan 31. Lots of changes coming. The middle of February will be a critical time for you as well.

Sending you lots of hugs as you transform..at least transiting pluto moves slowly..

Happy New Year Emsie!

Take care,
Spring

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posted December 31, 2023 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring ☺️

I will check back asap, I wish you a very happy and prosperous new year in advance! ❤️🎉🙏 I hope there won't be too many fireworks in your area to scare the pup and any other animals. There is still 3,5 hours left until midnight and 2024 here, but the fireworks are going on like crazy. 😔 Right before I left home to visit mom my kitty was scared because of a loud one, puffy tail and all... I had to make the whole apartment dark to provide at least some comfort I will check back on kitty soon.

Also, I would like to massively thank you for providing me so many details on my chart and transits, they made my life much more manageable ❤️❤️❤️

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posted January 09, 2024 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

Sorry that it has taken me so long to respond. Some days seem to keep going and going and going. Other days I needed to prioritize my mom and pupper's stuff and then try to fit in something for me, but the days just don't seem long enough sometimes. Then there's me trying to take a break. Walked away from the dining table (and my dinner) to answer the door..pupper went to the door and then dashed back to the table while I was occupied and ate what I still had on my dinner plate.

I hope your kitty is doing much better. We were away from the house, but the fireworks still made their presence known and the pupper reacted as she always does..panic, run..

It won't be long before transiting pluto goes direct.

Hope your new year got off to a great start and that things are looking up.

Take care,
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posted January 13, 2024 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

I'm also taking breaks, but try to check back whenever I have the energy to do so. I've been continuing with cleaning the kitchen, bathroom and I even arranged the living room a little bit to make it seem less chaotic. I try to do it in small bits to keep myself productive, but not to drive myself overwhelmed.

I made a quick reading for you what to expect this year. I feel this will be a pivotal year for both of us!!

Woman Holding A Coin
Action
Goddess Of The Moon
Storm Warning
Anxiety

Overall: Strategy - Contract - Walking Away

Bottom card: The World

This year seems to be very feminine based for you, so the emphasis is going to be mainly on the female side of your family and social circle (mother, sister, friends, etc.) Yin and grounded Earth energy (mundane matters), but, at the same time, with Action it will be balanced by Yang, in fact, 2024 will be quite active for you with things happening - external events in the physical world.

I'd keep a close eye on the Lunar Eclipses of this year as these might bring major shifts:

March 25 Libra Lunar Eclipse at 5°
Sept 17 Pisces Lunar Eclipse at 25°

Also, events concerning your mom, or any 4H matters (roots, home, security) might happen as well. As Storm Warning is next to the Moon card I think these will be expected, rather Pluto type of events combined with a little bit of unexpected Uranus factor as there is also lightning on the card. These might either create some anxiety in your life upon happening, or, the issues at hand have already been causing you anxiety and the resolution will provide you relief at the end.

With the overall cards I think some type of contract and/or law will also be at hand for you involving some kind of strategic move and with the World a cycle will end in your life for good. It might be about your mom, or, the neighbor with the camera getting karma and moving away. Or, you moving elsewhere leaving the current place behind for the sake of your healing and happiness and to feel more secure.

ETA: I just wanted to add that I found a documentary of historical tornadoes on NatGeo. I think it will definitely have some kind of significance during this year. I really hope not a literal tornado, though! A few days ago I even had a tornado dream, but it didn't destroy anything, just lifted me up in the basement of the block of flats where my mom lives and where I grew up. It wanted to suck me out to make my fly in the air, but the concrete ceiling prevented me (blockage). There was also a slightly chubby little boy with me, but he didn't start levitating and wasn't fazed at all. I can only guess the dream had to do something with my life purpose that it was sabotaged when I was young (hence the little boy not doing anything, but being submissive?) and it's not the right time yet for me to completely fly out of the stable basement (being trapped in the system?)

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posted January 13, 2024 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The transit of Saturn that will help you next year is also making you feel a push pull kind of frustration, pessimistic and not as positive as you usually are, and weighted down, but its square to your natal Mars, Mercury and Sun, with also help you to make sure you do a thorough, detailed and discipled approach to reaching your goals. The Saturn transits opposition to your natal jupiter will also help you to see what's necessary to expanding versus contracting in growing your creative business. Now you will be pursuing your career and passion (Leo Sun on 10th house cusp) versus just working somewhere (6th house--Aries on cusp, position of authority) and earning money. Transiting Saturn will be passing your natal mars and mercury by late March, which should take some of the heaviness of that transit off of you, but with it still more fully squaring your natal Sun, you'll have plenty to do.

I think you are 100% correct about Saturn playing a major role in my life this year. I'm basically planning to go back to school from September I found the proper pottery vocational courses, 2 of them belong to the state and for entirely free without any age limit!! I've decided to try and apply this Summer, most probably in July or August as soon as they will announce the new opportunity. If they'd accept my application and everything would go as planned I'd get my certificate by mid-2026 - by the time Saturn and Neptune both transit fully into Aries (smells like major action time...)

But this will come with a sacrifice and restrictions as I would have to attend school alongside with work and commuting. Thank God they have a special schedule and lessons start from 17:00 twice on weekdays and in the morning hours on Saturdays until noon. Saturn will hover between my natal Mars/Mercury and Sun all year long, and over my Sun in the first half of 2025 as far as I know. I'm wondering if my life energy might be sapped for a while due to the busy schedules and trying to juggle things at once for a little while...

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Late January, early February 2024 should be a somewhat pleasant time for you as long as you don't over do it. It could just be a time when you are feeling lazy or just socializing. With Jupiter transiting your 7th house, there might be a potential partner popping into your life. At the same time transiting pluto will be more fully squaring your natal venus as well and potentially it could bring you a relationship that would transform you as a person or at the least you'll know what love means to you by the time it ends.

Right now I'm in a quite calm phase of my life where everything seems to fall in the right place at the right time (when it has to happen) without any rush, and I happen to be in a quite accepting and surrendering mode. I'm taking small steps every day and it seems to be enough for me, no rush, no stress. Even my hair loss stopped almost completely!!! I feel one of my current tasks is to be very mindful about my health and stress levels as I'm preparing for a new phase in my life slowly, but surely.

I was also thinking about the transiting Pluto hovering over Saturn, then my IC axis within a few years time. When it will reach 2-3° it will poke my natal Saturn-Venus square, so I guess it will be briefly activated this May, and next May (2025), and after that my IC joining the party (2026) - even onwards as Pluto will go Rx at 7° in 2027...

I was contemplating in the last few days how or in what way will Pluto transform my existing natal Saturn-Venus square. It brought me a lot of disappointments and deprivation of love in general ever since my childhood. Restrictions in every sense of the word both in love and money matters. I can definitely see the pattern of this natal square, I've been working on it for quite some time now not to expect love and financial support from outside sources, but to learn (Saturn) how to give it to myself, how to love and value (Venus) myself. I really hope Pluto will yield at least a few results of this hard work and completely transform the pattern for the better! Or, maybe will bring up something which might still show cracks where I don't love myself...

I'm also thinking about this natal Saturn-Venus square being attached to my life purpose and my own values and sense of self. Again, since childhood being restricted from doing what I would have loved the most and which would have created the most joy and happiness in my life (being creative and doing art - fashion design) Ironically enough, it was my mother sabotaging my efforts without a single emotion, very Aqua 4H stuff (and she even did it in a true Uranus fashion...) I even have natal Pluto-Moon square, Pluto rules my career/finances - friction caused by a female figure... These days I'm working on accepting this part of my past. Sometimes, it can be hella painful thinking about the fact I couldn't do anything at that time other than being at the mercy of circumstances, but accepting the situation and rolling with the punches and the suffering she exposed me to by being cold and selfish. And she doesn't even know about the consequences of her actions and all the things which happened to me both externally and psychologically. Unfortunately, I cannot turn back time to change anything, so I'm slowly letting go. I'm not sure if I'll ever open up about this to her, but I suspect there might be a time coming when I will have to be frank and upfront with her. Not that I have any obligations to explain myself to anyone why I want to (and eventually WILL) go through a career transition...

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posted January 16, 2024 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

I've been doing some of the same things..rearranged the healthcare stuff and furniture in my mom's room, so it's easier to find things and roomier or less cluttered. I've also been doing that in my mom's home in general, too. What's interesting is when things go off balance..my pupper needs more attention..then I focus there and then my mom needs more attention..then I focus there..it's crazy..and hard not to feel like I get squeezed out at times..

Thank you for the reading for the upcoming year.

I think you are right about this year being focused on my mom. June 1st also starts our storm/hurricane season and we are currently having a wet Winter. There was even some lightning yesterday and lots of wind in some of the more recent storms. It's been raining again today. Whenever we have a hurricane, especially, coming near us, it creates anxiety for most people and if her home happens to be on the market to be sold at the time, then that will add to it for me. The strategy will most likely be how to approach getting her home sold (contract) and walking away is me moving afterwards. MoonMystic had read that I would be living in my mother's home until it sells, so it makes sense with what you read as well.

The other cards make sense, too, with taking care of things with my mom after she passes. Thankfully, a lot of her stuff got simplified over the years and the house is really all that needs to be taken care of. Some of the anxiety could come from the people who come and look at it and don't like what the home has in it. The master bedroom, for instance, only has a half bath..toilet and vanity..no shower or tub/shower combo, etc.

Thank you for the info on the lunar eclipses as they will be prominent in my 2nd and 8th houses.

Your dream makes perfect sense with your circumstances and how you've lived. My mom also has venus square her natal saturn and it had made her a very thrifty and saver type person, but I think she realized in the end (when she couldn't get around very well anymore) that she should have done more for herself. I hope you do more for yourself and don't let that aspect in your chart be a trap. When I was about 5-6 years old, I found out that I had four cavities that needed to be fixed. Two on one side and the same two on the other side of my lower teeth.
One was a molar and the other tooth in front that they usually pull. Well, to save $5-$10 back then (wages weren't very high then), my mother had them pull all four teeth instead of filling the two molars. The molars did not grow back in, but the two in front of them did. Twenty years later another dentist said I needed to get bridges or (implants--they had just come out with these), so the bridges on both sides wouldn't collapse (the way the teeth were coming together). My mother helped me with cost of the braces. I didn't like the idea of them drilling into the bone in my jaw and then later I had heard of people having their implants fall out. The moral to this story..$5-$10 dollars was a lot less expensive in the end.

Last year I had had a dream about people talking to the camera person and I think it came true a few days ago. They were given three choices..stop lying about me to others, go to jail or go to therapy. I think it has toned them down some, but that's it. I looked up the Saturn in Pisces transit I had years ago and saw that it coincided with an entry level job I had in the early 1990's in the production area of a company. It didn't last as long (transit) and I remembered the horrible team leader we had to work with then. He would always try to make trouble for the nicer people. I posted for a job opportunity in the purchasing department (I was one of 60+ applicants..they didn't have too many opportunities..first job opening outside of production I had seen in around a year..almost left out of frustration)..felt very lucky to get that new entry level position. Our economy was down and jobs weren't plentiful then, either. Transiting Saturn in Pisces is conjuncting my mother's natal sun and today, while the C.N.A. was here, I noticed just how much weight she has lost. My pisces' brother's sun is the day before my mom's, so he is feeling it, too.

I'll be back hopefully soon to look at your responses to my reading for you.

Spring

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posted January 17, 2024 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

I feel the sale of the house will be successful this year. It might even happen during one of the major eclipses, especially the one concerning your 8H (others' money)

For me the Pisces eclipse will happen in my natal 5H (creativity) I think this might signify a successful application and beginning of pottery course for me, at least I really hope so. My Solar Return for 2024 has Pluto in the SR 5H, too. Transformation in 5H matters. I'd be really happy and grateful if I could start school as well as meet a proper long-term partner prospect.

I've checked transits for the upcoming years up until mid-2026. Around July 2026 I will have transiting Jupiter conjunct my natal MC (the approximate time of finals for the course if I'll really manage to get in)

Also, I've noticed a very interesting thing in my Solar Return chart for 2025. Pluto is conjunct Ceres and Venus and widely the IC for that year. Compared to my natal chart SR Venus is also conjunct natal Saturn. Pluto and Ceres immediately reminded me of myth about the abduction of Persephone to the underworld and Ceres (her mother) mourning her absence during the Fall and Winter months. I was wondering who might be "abducted" and taken away for a certain amount of time in the year to the "underworld"... It might be either me catching a Pluto husband (him catching me ) and moving (lol) or the other option is probably my grandma taken away by Pluto for her final rest. I've read that Venus conjunct Saturn can mean the solidifying of a relationship (or the other way, the deprivation of love)
This even made me think if this year's SR Pluto in the 5H might mean a husband material coming to the fore from the "underworld" and getting ready to take me far away from my mom (hometown) next year

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posted January 18, 2024 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I added comments in between your paragraphs.

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Originally posted by Emsie:
Right now I'm in a quite calm phase of my life where everything seems to fall in the right place at the right time (when it has to happen) without any rush, and I happen to be in a quite accepting and surrendering mode. I'm taking small steps every day and it seems to be enough for me, no rush, no stress. Even my hair loss stopped almost completely!!!

I've lost my hair as well with jobs, etc. and now including my mom, so I completely understand you!!

I feel one of my current tasks is to be very mindful about my health and stress levels as I'm preparing for a new phase in my life slowly, but surely.

I'm not at this point yet and wondering what transiting pluto's ingress back into aquarius will bring.

I was also thinking about the transiting Pluto hovering over Saturn, then my IC axis within a few years time. When it will reach 2-3° it will poke my natal Saturn-Venus square, so I guess it will be briefly activated this May, and next May (2025), and after that my IC joining the party (2026) - even onwards as Pluto will go Rx at 7° in 2027...

Pluto usually takes away the things that are not good for you and leaves you with something better. It's on my Jupiter now and I'm seeing things better with cleaning out stuff. I've started working on my clothes and as I gain weight back I'll start parting with the smaller size bargains I had picked up just to have something to wear that didn't look like a bag on me as well as other ones that I've outgrown--not me anymore!

I was contemplating in the last few days how or in what way will Pluto transform my existing natal Saturn-Venus square. It brought me a lot of disappointments and deprivation of love in general ever since my childhood. Restrictions in every sense of the word both in love and money matters. I can definitely see the pattern of this natal square, I've been working on it for quite some time now not to expect love and financial support from outside sources, but to learn (Saturn) how to give it to myself, how to love and value (Venus) myself. I really hope Pluto will yield at least a few results of this hard work and completely transform the pattern for the better! Or, maybe will bring up something which might still show cracks where I don't love myself...

Pluto tends to bring drastic changes and with it going into Aquarius, I would say sudden ones..but also our hopes and wishes, friendships will also change with it.

I'm also thinking about this natal Saturn-Venus square being attached to my life purpose and my own values and sense of self. Again, since childhood being restricted from doing what I would have loved the most and which would have created the most joy and happiness in my life (being creative and doing art - fashion design) Ironically enough, it was my mother sabotaging my efforts without a single emotion, very Aqua 4H stuff (and she even did it in a true Uranus fashion...) I even have natal Pluto-Moon square, Pluto rules my career/finances - friction caused by a female figure... These days I'm working on accepting this part of my past. Sometimes, it can be hella painful thinking about the fact I couldn't do anything at that time other than being at the mercy of circumstances, but accepting the situation and rolling with the punches and the suffering she exposed me to by being cold and selfish. And she doesn't even know about the consequences of her actions and all the things which happened to me both externally and psychologically. Unfortunately, I cannot turn back time to change anything, so I'm slowly letting go. I'm not sure if I'll ever open up about this to her, but I suspect there might be a time coming when I will have to be frank and upfront with her. Not that I have any obligations to explain myself to anyone why I want to (and eventually WILL) go through a career transition...


Your mom may be narcissistic, which explains the lack of emotion. They also like to control things. I figured out what the one hospice nurse meant when she called me a people pleaser (coping with narcissists)..I have at least one narcissistic sibling..think something is going on with the other one like a reader saw on LL and it will come out after my mom passes like they said..the other person I'm thinking of has transiting Neptune squaring their natal Venus, an illicit affair? My narcissistic brother told me a few years ago that I needed to think like they do. The reaction from your mom should be interesting, but in reality you're just not being a doormat to them anymore or letting them manipulate or control you.

Sending you big hugs for your transformation.

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posted January 18, 2024 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Spring,

I feel the sale of the house will be successful this year. It might even happen during one of the major eclipses, especially the one concerning your 8H (others' money)

For me the Pisces eclipse will happen in my natal 5H (creativity) I think this might signify a successful application and beginning of pottery course for me, at least I really hope so. My Solar Return for 2024 has Pluto in the SR 5H, too. Transformation in 5H matters. I'd be really happy and grateful if I could start school as well as meet a proper long-term partner prospect.

I've checked transits for the upcoming years up until mid-2026. Around July 2026 I will have transiting Jupiter conjunct my natal MC (the approximate time of finals for the course if I'll really manage to get in)

Also, I've noticed a very interesting thing in my Solar Return chart for 2025. Pluto is conjunct Ceres and Venus and widely the IC for that year. Compared to my natal chart SR Venus is also conjunct natal Saturn. Pluto and Ceres immediately reminded me of myth about the abduction of Persephone to the underworld and Ceres (her mother) mourning her absence during the Fall and Winter months. I was wondering who might be "abducted" and taken away for a certain amount of time in the year to the "underworld"... It might be either me catching a Pluto husband (him catching me ) and moving (lol) or the other option is probably my grandma taken away by Pluto for her final rest. I've read that Venus conjunct Saturn can mean the solidifying of a relationship (or the other way, the deprivation of love)
This even made me think if this year's SR Pluto in the 5H might mean a husband material coming to the fore from the "underworld" and getting ready to take me far away from my mom (hometown) next year


Your pottery schooling sounds really nice. I have thought of learning it, too, but have only worked with ceramics. I think I need to finish/purges some of my unfinished projects first, though. It's interesting the length of time you'll spend with your schooling. Just reading what you wrote about this schooling is much more uplifting than anything else work wise that you've talked about before, but like you said..and not just your mom..those workplaces also helped you to value yourself more.

Tomorrow through Monday should be interesting as the sun and pluto will go into aqua with mercury starting to conjunct them. It should be an interesting time for those having planets in the early degrees of aqua, scorpio, taurus and leo..especially since they are fixed..and then in february venus and mars will be conjunct to pluto..hopefully all good things.

Time to check on my mom.

Take care,
Spring

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Hi Spring,

Pluto in Aqua + Sun have already kicked in for me again. I've just received scary news that the owner of my rent apartment has cancer again. I'm not even surprised that it is attached to my 4H matters (living) and that the news also came in a true Aqua/Uranus fashion... It shocked me, and I really hope the doctors discovered the illness at the beginning stages 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

And my Godmother has been promoted at her workplace exactly on the day when Pluto was transiting 29° Cap and stepped into 0° Aqua... She's been working for the company for 30 years now since 1994 and looks like persistance and long years of hard work (Cap) took her a long way to now lead an entire shift. And turns out she is the first woman leader in that position!! I've heard that Pluto transit through Aqua will also mean women power rising. I think this is also coming true...

In the last few days I started cleaning out everything, stuff that's been sticking around for years now, but I no longer need. I got an unusually huge push out of nowhere to start doing it asap. Major deep cleaning going on, I got really fed up, and I'm also preparing in advance for my next move. I expect it to happen within a few years (I hope the cause won't be shocking, at least for me ) I still have a long way to go as I try to go slowly on a daily basis, whatever I can find and put it in the paper or plastic bin... It feels good and keeps me productive.

Also, on Monday my mom sent me pictures about the living room of my stepdad. He inherited the house he grew up in from his grandma. Last year he has started to renovate it from the inside. And now the living room and his separate bedroom are finally ready, they look very neat, new furniture and bright colors. And he did it mostly on his own (with little help from my uncle who works on construction sites.) He is a Cancer, no wonder he started this project. I think either his kitchen, or toilet will be next. And definitely the roof... It has to be renovated as it is leaking, not to mention the wasps hiding inside...

Very-very Pluto in Aqua vibes and external events have arrived again. I was wondering as far as Pluto goes... for me even 0° is enough to activate the themes. It's a 3° difference from my natal Saturn and 5° from my IC. As opposed to what my astrologer told me that for any events I should wait for the 1-2 orb difference. Last year it was the same, 0° and my grandma had a stroke, nearly passed, and the neighbor of my mom had cancer and passed away.

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I also wanted to add more input regarding the Pluto in Aqua transit. These days I read more and more news about reconstructions of buildings, living areas and even a part of the domestic public transportation system in my country. They are being revolutionized

In my hometown there's been reconstructions and renovations going on for 2 school buildings as well. Both of them are very old built in the 70s. One of them still functions as a school, the other one has been empty and spooky for at least 20 years now. I attended elementary school 3rd grade when they closed that school and a few pupils were distributed to our class later on. Last year a construction company appeared on that site, but they only started to slowly bulldoze the building since last November. A few days ago I went for a walk and saw only the base of the building. The whole thing gained momentum as soon as Pluto re-entered Aqua...

I feel there is much more to come, a lot will be transformed, anything that belongs to my childhood one way or another...

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Hi Emsie!

Wow! Later this year when transiting Pluto goes back into cap, it may change again for your landlord.

That's great about your Godmother. She was probably amazed, but it was well earned. I hadn't heard that about women rising with Pluto's transit in Aquarius. In my country, during one of our president's speeches, he talked about women who had left the workforce to take care of family members, so I believe the unshackling (devil card in tarot reversed and also cap in Pluto) will help with that for me and others. A friend of mine told me she believes that the transit of Pluto in cap also represents older/elderly people and them passing away or being pruned from the family tree to allow for new growth.

Transits of Pluto I've read can bring drastic changes and slowly with being in cap, but it will leave you with something better.

I'm hoping to do a further clean out of stuff once I move from here after my mother passed. I've been snuggling with my pupper after she hurt something. Last Saturday she walked outside slower than usual to go potty..her legs were shaking a bit..then came back inside and layed on her dog bed in the other room..the doorbell rang and raced past me to the door..then she went to lay down in the living room..I went to my mom's room to help her..then I hear the pupper making noises like she is upset..when I came out to check on her, she was dragging limp legs behind her..next week I'll be taking her to the vet to be examined..

I'll bet your step dad will be pleased with what he accomplishes...it would be better if more people renovated existing homes instead of building new ones..

With Pluto in Aquarius, it will be interesting..just thinking about them.. Pluto being drastic or upheaval and Aquarius being sudden or shocking changes.
Pluto I've also read stays in one sign for 18 years.

Between my mom and pupper.. I'm feeling the weight of my work..and the transit of mars and Mercury in cap getting closer to Saturn in my chart..when I told my mom what happened with my fur kid, she had this look of disbelief and it really hit home that more work than I needed.

Glad you are taking it slow with the cleanout..

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It's great how you're able to see similarities in what is happening around you and how your past will eventually dissolve and something new will take it's place..some of that I think may be coming from the Neptune in Pisces transit..idealism and Pluto in cap..reality..

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Hi Emsie!

Wow! Later this year when transiting Pluto goes back into cap, it may change again for your landlord.


I also expect stuff happening around September and October when Pluto will spend some time again at 29° Cap... I think I forgot to mention that at the last workplace I thankfully left for good they announced a part of the department being outsourced to Manila. Employees are cheaper there and the company leaders know it... I warned my ex-colleagues to expect the rest of the department following around that time, and if they would like to come out of the situation fine they should already look for other opportunities elsewhere...

Today it turned out that a close family friend also decided to quit his job and move to TX for work. He even told me he would like to have a bit more freedom - very Aqua again

Maybe I should start a journal collecting all these Pluto in Aqua stories. There will be plenty of those for quite some time...

Today I decided to search for a private tutor to re-learn drawing as it'll be necessary to get into the ceramic/pottery classes. I haven't received any response yet, but I really hope he can still fit me into the schedule...

I really hope the pup is now feeling better as well as your mom Cleaning is still going on, yesterday I cleaned one of the windows for the kitty. It was very strange as in all honesty I haven't cleaned any of my windows for more than 2 years now and only now did I notice the dirt and the Sahara desert sand originating from raindrops. It was also a pretty eye-opening moment again

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